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    Agreed, the 4 Halos at the time on the list (Glaus,Spiezio,K-Rod,and Weber) aren't much of a shock to me.

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    I'm surprised it's ONLY 103 people.

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    You could show me a list of users that includes all 750 active MLB players and only about 15 or so would really surprise me.

    It's simply a part of the game. Sure, hopefully they can move past it and we can look back at this era from a better one, but don't kid yourself, the majority of players have used PEDs at one point or another in their careers.

    This witch hunt is getting old.

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    No Beast Mode?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TBrown33 View Post
    No Beast Mode?
    JP, Biggio & Ekstein were clearly absent the days MLB tested.

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    Also, anyone who's still pissed off about all this, move the hell on. Everyone did it, it happened, oh well.

    Guess what? Juicing isn't a recent phenomenon. Shocking, I know. Before it was coke, greenies, and whatever else players could get their hands on before then. The only difference is the drugs just got better. Straight up.

    The whole "steroid era" is a crock of ****, because you can just point to any bloc of time and call it the "(insert drug here) era." Think players weren't doing **** before we even figured out HOW to test for drugs? Ha. Ha. Ha. (actually, think about how RECENTLY testing even started!)

    Which leaves ballplayers in 4 all time categories: dudes who stayed clean, dudes who got caught and denied it like babies (Bonds, Clemens), dudes who got caught and fessed up/paid the price (Manny, Pettitte, ARod, etc.), and dudes who did it and haven't/won't get caught.

    That's the way it's been, the way it is, and the way it always will be. It's sports. Get over it. As a musician, I'm glad nobody gives me **** for me taking my performance enhancing drugs. Because god knows that industry would suffer HUGELY without them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obejuan View Post
    This also partially explains some of the moves Depodesta made. Supposedly, Mc Court told him to rid the team of 'roids.
    Penny wouldn't surprise me either.

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    25 players who play or have played for the Dodgers at some point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watti View Post
    It's simply a part of the game. Sure, hopefully they can move past it and we can look back at this era from a better one, but don't kid yourself, the majority of players have used PEDs at one point or another in their careers.

    This witch hunt is getting old.
    The reason it's a witch hunt at all is because of how poorly MLB and the players association handled the whole situation. Sweeping it under a rug for years, then being belligerent about testing, to the point that congress had to intervene. They brought all of this on themselves.

    If they'd simply been more proactive and upfront about it, it would have never ballooned into this constant PR disaster. They just needed a level playing field. If they'd confronted the steroid problem head on when the signs first started popping up and squashed it with extremely thorough and frequent testing, that would have been the end of it. Pretending the problem didn't exist was the worst course of action.

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