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    Abramovich left the game before the match ended.

    HAHA!

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    Drogba had to be carried off right before the match ended.

    Aston Villa 2-0 Chelsea Full time.

    Martin O'neill has put together a very solid team at Villa.

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    No Lampard=tough day at the office for Chelsea.

    He's really their only center midfielder who can control play. Essien, Makalele, they are good for keeping possesion and Essien pops up for a goal every now and then but they are not dynamic passers by any means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASUcruz View Post
    No Lampard=tough day at the office for Chelsea.

    He's really their only center midfielder who can control play. Essien, Makalele, they are good for keeping possesion and Essien pops up for a goal every now and then but they are not dynamic passers by any means.
    It doesn't take dynamic passers to build up on the ground with short passes, and players making good movements for "give and go's".

    After three years and 300 millions spent, there's no excuse that today's Chelsea team are relying on the passing of one Frank Lampard.

    IMO they have regressed from the days when they had Robben, Duff, and Joe Cole available for rotation.

    Eidur Gudjohnson is still missed as a link up striker.

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    Chelsea looked really bad. The Drogba injury looks quite serious as well. This would be a good time to have Ballack and Shevchenko healthy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by redxalonso View Post
    It doesn't take dynamic passers to build up on the ground with short passes, and players making good movements for "give and go's".

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    It's not just his dynamic passing, its his ability to dictate play. Much like the current Paul Scholes or Andrea Pirlo. Lampard's vision and ability is huge to Chelsea's attack. When they were winning titles, wing play was a huge part of that but who was getting the balls to those wings. Lampard, sure it's pretty outrageous to depend on one player especially after you spend a lot of money, but that's how important Lampard is.

    Quote Originally Posted by redxalonso
    IMO they have regressed from the days when they had Robben, Duff, and Joe Cole available for rotation.
    Perhaps, but there's really another side to that story. Duff was seemingly always injuried, and Robben the great player he was, mailed in a lot of games. Especially when there were Oranje games around the corner. One of the biggest mistakes Chelsea made was signing Shaun Wright-Phillips. Signing a winger wasn't a bad idea, they just signed absolutley the wrong one.

    For me the real reason they won those championships were a stellar back 4 protected by at that time the best purely holding midfielder in the world(Makalele), a great goalie(perhaps the best in the world), some good wing play, and a ton of goals from Lampard.


    Quote Originally Posted by redxalonso
    Eidur Gudjohnson is still missed as a link up striker
    I still think Chelsea were at their best in their 4-3-3. Gudjohnson was actually more of an attacking midfielder. Mourhinho really turned him into a very versatile player.

    Anyways, Drogba with 2 speedy wingers backed by a midfield trio of Lampard, Makalele, and Essien was superb.

    Now Essien has taken on the Makalele role which is fine. Lampard is there(but hurt now) and your right they haven't really replaced Gudjohnsen but his role was more of an advanced midfielder. Sort of like the Paul Scholes of old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ASUcruz View Post
    It's not just his dynamic passing, its his ability to dictate play. Much like the current Paul Scholes or Andrea Pirlo. Lampard's vision and ability is huge to Chelsea's attack. When they were winning titles, wing play was a huge part of that but who was getting the balls to those wings. Lampard, sure it's pretty outrageous to depend on one player especially after you spend a lot of money, but that's how important Lampard is.
    5-10 yards short passes bouncing off each other looking like a pinball machine is what Chelsea has never been able to do, with or without Lampard.

    ManUtd and Arsenal plays this brand of football, and now Liverpool have surpassed Chelsea in this department.

    Take either one of Gerrard or Alonso, Scholes, Pirlo, and Fabregas away from their current team and their attacks won't be as predictable as Chelsea's that's for sure.

    With or without Lampard, and most of Chelsea's best attacking players are at full strength, John Terry should never have to be sent up front as a striker in open play for 15 minutes to score desperation goals.

    Not complaining though I hope they do keep it up. =)
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    Quote Originally Posted by redxalonso View Post
    5-10 yards short passes bouncing off each other looking like a pinball machine is what Chelsea has never been able to do, with or without Lampard.

    ManUtd and Arsenal plays this brand of football, and now Liverpool have surpassed Chelsea in this department.
    United and Arsenal do it there way and Chelsea did it theirs. They won two titles playing that style. When they tried to be more attacking they lost the crown and still posed a serious challenge. I agree with most Chelsea fans that if Cech had been healthy the entire season it would have been a much much closer race.

    You don't have to play pretty football to win, Chelsea have obviously proved it. Ditto the German National team. It's not easy on the eyes but Chelsea's brutal efficiency got them two titles. Hard to argue with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASUcruz View Post
    United and Arsenal do it there way and Chelsea did it theirs. They won two titles playing that style. When they tried to be more attacking they lost the crown and still posed a serious challenge. I agree with most Chelsea fans that if Cech had been healthy the entire season it would have been a much much closer race.

    You don't have to play pretty football to win, Chelsea have obviously proved it. Ditto the German National team. It's not easy on the eyes but Chelsea's brutal efficiency got them two titles. Hard to argue with that.
    Agreed. Winning is winning.

    However, I think what happened against a well managed Villa side and how ordinary a full strength Chelsea looked against Liverpool is a sign that this Chelsea team needs more than brutal effeciency to win.

    I think I already said this, Chelsea didn't look like a threat to score for long periods during the Villa match, brut effiency or not.

    The Germans are efficient, but Juergan Klinnsman and Rudi Voller did not rely on brut strengths when they were helping Germany last win major tournaments.

    In WC 2006, Klinsmann changed the German into a more attacking squad and exceeded all expectations.

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    Former Arsenal director David Dein sold the remaining of his shares to Usmanov, not surprisingly another shady Russian oligarch.

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