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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Irreverent View Post
    Yeah, Curbishley needs to figure out the midfield quick like, Lee Bowyer looked TERRIBLE, ditto Zamora, Boa Morte, Ferdinand, McCartney, Noble. If West Ham is going to be succesful in this league, they're going to need a class playmaker (see: Fabregas, Arteta, Elano, etc.) AND a shut down midfielder. This is why I'm shaking my head that they never gave Mascherano a chance, now Liverpool has an abundance of them.

    To add to the drama, former left-back Konchesky has gone to the press about Curbishley and how Bent and others refused to (sign) play for him. NOT GOOD. Looks like West Ham will not be able to escape the drama or the relegation battle if they can't fix this soon...

    Konchesky talking ****

    Konchesky launches broadside at Curbishley

    Fulham defender Paul Konchesky has hit out at West Ham boss Alan Curbishley, claiming he is 'sure' the manager was the reason behind Carlos Tevez's decision to leave the club.

    Konchesky played under Curbishley at Charlton and West Ham but left the East End club this summer and insists the Hammers chief was his motivation for leaving.

    'There was, and still is, a lot of unhappy players at the club who don't like him. I am one of them and he knows that, and that is why I left the club,' he told The People.

    'I know there are a lot of players who don't think he is any good.

    'I am sure that is one of the main reasons Carlos Tevez didn't stay at the club, and also why Darren Bent refused to sign for West Ham. It was because of the manager.

    'He is hard to get on with. He doesn't have much banter; he is serious all the time, he keeps himself to himself and doesn't get involved - very old school.'

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    Yup, it definitley is a new season.

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    Tevez>Rooney anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redxalonso View Post
    Tevez>Rooney anyways.
    Based on pure offense maybe. And even then its close. But Rooney brings far more to the table as far as tracking back and making tackles/defending. Tracking back and collecting the ball. Other aspects of forward play Rooney is much better as well for example holding the ball up and keeping possession. It's definitley a loss, I would have loved to see them play together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASUcruz View Post
    Based on pure offense maybe. And even then its close. But Rooney brings far more to the table as far as tracking back and making tackles/defending. Tracking back and collecting the ball. Other aspects of forward play Rooney is much better as well for example holding the ball up and keeping possession. It's definitley a loss, I would have loved to see them play together.
    It's still going to happen, them playing together...just not anytime soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASUcruz View Post
    Based on pure offense maybe. And even then its close. But Rooney brings far more to the table as far as tracking back and making tackles/defending. Tracking back and collecting the ball. Other aspects of forward play Rooney is much better as well for example holding the ball up and keeping possession. It's definitley a loss, I would have loved to see them play together.
    "Far more"? That is daring statement because Tevez has proven he could do the same when he was with West Ham. For the last 10 matches that I saw of West Ham, he left everything on the pitch and is consistently shows his hunger to win. Put Rooney in last year's West Ham team and he would have gotten enough yellow cards to prevent himself from helping the team.

    The game is all mental and Rooney is way behind Tevez in that department.

    As a teenager, Tevez led Argentina to an Olympic gold medal and was named player of the tournament, then he went on the carry his club teams to win titles and named player of the year in both the Argentina and Brazilian league while Rooney was being "protected" by Ferguson and being a little **** head in getting yellow cards and sent off playing for England.

    When Rooney finally gets to play with Tevez, Rooney is the one that's going to be learning a trick or two from Tevez and not the other way around.

    Honesty, if you had 30 million pounds to buy either one of Rooney or Tevez, who would you buy?

    I'd take Tevez anytime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redxalonso View Post
    "Far more"? That is daring statement because Tevez has proven he could do the same when he was with West Ham. For the last 10 matches that I saw of West Ham, he left everything on the pitch and is consistently shows his hunger to win. Put Rooney in last year's West Ham team and he would have gotten enough yellow cards to prevent himself from helping the team.

    The game is all mental and Rooney is way behind Tevez in that department.

    As a teenager, Tevez led Argentina to an Olympic gold medal and was named player of the tournament, then he went on the carry his club teams to win titles and named player of the year in both the Argentina and Brazilian league while Rooney was being "protected" by Ferguson and being a little **** head in getting yellow cards and sent off playing for England.

    When Rooney finally gets to play with Tevez, Rooney is the one that's going to be learning a trick or two from Tevez and not the other way around.

    Honesty, if you had 30 million pounds to buy either one of Rooney or Tevez, who would you buy?

    I'd take Tevez anytime.
    Tough call. I got nothing else to add...

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    redxalonso, you are in my mind a eurosnob, but in you posting the EPL preview and your argument of Tevez vs Rooney, which you are right Tevez over Rooney is spot on. I will give you the benefit of the doubt.

    Tevez is twice the player Rooney is. but I digress, since I'm a Spurs fan,

    COYS!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by redxalonso View Post
    "Far more"? That is daring statement because Tevez has proven he could do the same when he was with West Ham. For the last 10 matches that I saw of West Ham, he left everything on the pitch and is consistently shows his hunger to win. Put Rooney in last year's West Ham team and he would have gotten enough yellow cards to prevent himself from helping the team.
    Keep in mind, "far more" was referring to a few aspects of soccer. Not as players in general. And in the last 10 matches of last season I saw Wayne Rooney help lift United to a title. A relegation battle is a high pressure situation but times that by 10 and you get the pressure sitation of a title race. Not to mention United were playing in 3 competitions as opposed to the one Tevez was playing. Yea, Tevez showed his hunger to win, has Rooney showed anything less? Especially playing for United?

    As far as discipline, in a United shirt Rooney is a different animal. He's still, well quite frankly an ******* but he wasn't sent off last year and if I can recall correctly he has only been sent off once for United. For England, I'll agree with you saying that mentally Rooney is a bit of a train wreck but the England set up can be a bit of a train wreck to be honest.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redxalonso
    As a teenager, Tevez led Argentina to an Olympic gold medal and was named player of the tournament, then he went on the carry his club teams to win titles and named
    Tevez was great at the Olympics but the Olympics aren't a big deal in the whole scheme of things in soccer. First of all performing great as a teenager is great and all but its a U-23 tournament...... You get the three overage players but for the most part its a U-23 tournament. And even for it being a U-23 tournament not that many teams send the best U-23 team they can send. From your statement you make it seem like Tevez led a decent Argentina to glory by doing everything on the pitch. He played well but that Argentina team was stacked and was by far the best team in that tournament. Take a look at the squads in that tourney, not a single team comes close to the quality Argentina put out there.

    I'm not taking away anything from Tevez, but Olympic soccer is just not that great an accomplishment... Again it's a U-23 tourney...

    Quote Originally Posted by redxalonso
    player of the year in both the Argentina and Brazilian league while Rooney was being "protected" by Ferguson and being a little **** head in getting yellow cards and sent off playing for England
    I'm not sure what being protected by Ferguson means. I mean he was performing at a pretty high level for United as a teenager. That's not very easy. I respect the Argentina and Brazillian leagues but I think peforming at a high level for Manchester United is proving yourself enough.

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