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    Quote Originally Posted by projectx View Post
    Right. It's far more likely that the only exodus that will occur at the HDC will be all the Chivas fans. Their wanton destruction of the HDC has been a point of discussion with the HDC FO and talk is they're leaning toward not renewing their lease.

    And even if they did decide to renew, I can assure you that it will remain that the only sellouts that Chivas will see will be vs. the Galaxy.

    Funny, I've read the opposite. I know they cause damage to the seats but I've read HDC people are happy with Chivas' management, especially with Hunter as the new President and formerly from AEG. SBU can probably confirm this.

    And I'm sure the Quiet Squad, I mean Riot Squad are all a bunch of saints, especially throwing things at Chivas players after they score...

    But hey, having a stadium to ourselves would be great...

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    Quote Originally Posted by projectx View Post
    Right. It's far more likely that the only exodus that will occur at the HDC will be all the Chivas fans. Their wanton destruction of the HDC has been a point of discussion with the HDC FO and talk is they're leaning toward not renewing their lease.

    And even if they did decide to renew, I can assure you that it will remain that the only sellouts that Chivas will see will be vs. the Galaxy.
    Don't where you're hearing that but they are STUPID. Galaxy fans clearly don't want Chivas there BUT I assure AEG is LOVING all the extra cash the 20 games bring in.
    Not to mention SUM has a competent operations dept essentially "inhouse" to run the big friendlies and international matches. NO the Galaxy Ops Dept is not up to par with Chivas, Sorry Dave someone really screwed the pooch during SuperLiga for you guys.

    I would love to know who or what your source is X.
    Next year after we sign our new DP and are selling out most games you poor G fans will have nothing else to while about.

    X its not personal with you but it very personal with the FO and the fans on both sides that keep spewing baseless crap as facts.


    I did light a few candle last night so Becks can return and ruin the "team" before you actually make the playoffs

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    Little Chivas gives me much hope that the NuQuakes can be good by 2010.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsctaz View Post
    Funny, I've read the opposite. I know they cause damage to the seats but I've read HDC people are happy with Chivas' management, especially with Hunter as the new President and formerly from AEG. SBU can probably confirm this.

    And I'm sure the Quiet Squad, I mean Riot Squad are all a bunch of saints, especially throwing things at Chivas players after they score...

    But hey, having a stadium to ourselves would be great...
    I never said we were saints, but we don't throw glass bottles at Chivas' female supporters. We also don't rip tied scarves off of La Legions necks leaving people with bleeding necks.

    Personally I don't care if Chivas stays or goes, and was one of the first to say Rod was just blowing crap out his ass when he came to 138 and told us that they were leaning to not renew. I mean as long as the rent check's on his desk on the first I didn't think they would complain.

    Quote Originally Posted by SuxBeingU View Post
    Don't where you're hearing that but they are
    I would love to know who or what your source is X.
    Next year after we sign our new DP and are selling out most games you poor G fans will have nothing else to while about.
    I'd love to know who this magical DP is going to be. And does that mean the second DP slot for all teams is a lock? Everyone says it's for the Galaxy and Donovan, but there was talk of giving Chivas their DP "back"

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    Quote Originally Posted by projectx View Post
    I never said we were saints, but we don't throw glass bottles at Chivas' female supporters. We also don't rip tied scarves off of La Legions necks leaving people with bleeding necks.

    Personally I don't care if Chivas stays or goes, and was one of the first to say Rod was just blowing crap out his ass when he came to 138 and told us that they were leaning to not renew. I mean as long as the rent check's on his desk on the first I didn't think they would complain.



    I'd love to know who this magical DP is going to be. And does that mean the second DP slot for all teams is a lock? Everyone says it's for the Galaxy and Donovan, but there was talk of giving Chivas their DP "back"
    nothing is a lock but I am hearing more of a "Donovan rule" for US palyers. I don't see the DP as successful as most. Half the team didn't even use them. Yeah the ones who did are doing great, Angel, Becks and Blanco, but they really need to be a big enough name that the semi casual fan will recogonize them AND want to come out and see them.

    I don't think Chivas will get their Dp unless they trade some cash(cap space ) for it. I don't think MLS should just hand them one because they made a bad decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuxBeingU View Post
    nothing is a lock but I am hearing more of a "Donovan rule" for US palyers. I don't see the DP as successful as most. Half the team didn't even use them. Yeah the ones who did are doing great, Angel, Becks and Blanco, but they really need to be a big enough name that the semi casual fan will recogonize them AND want to come out and see them.

    I don't think Chivas will get their Dp unless they trade some cash(cap space ) for it. I don't think MLS should just hand them one because they made a bad decision.
    I've heard of the US Nat. thing too. Blatter's recent comments on leagues emphasizing home grown players can only help that cause.

    I'd have to see if that helps Red Bulls though. Would Reyna count as a US Nat, he's retired from the Nat team after all. If he does they get to use Chivas DP slot on yet another designated player (if the below becomes reality). Houston would benefit both Ching (US Nat) and DeRo (DP) are signed, but I'm sure they'd like more money.

    I want to know if the higher salary cap will happen, the rumors have been floating. If it does go up, I'd like there to be a higher minimum wage.

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    Help me out with this:

    Why was this designated spot rule put into place specifically? Shouldn't it be up to the team on who they can bring in? Look at Spain, England, Germany, etc. They all can bring in a lot of big names for the right price but I'm not too sure if they also have a limit of how many.

    Is it because they don't want MLS to be like MLB where the Yankees, Red Sox, and Angels can spend like crazy on a lot of players and teams like Kansas City, Pittsburgh, and Tampa Bay can't afford the same? I know in Mexico there are only a certain amount of international players and local players they can bring in which screws over Chivas Guadalajara because they have the policy of having only Mexican players (policy was started by their original founders, French and Belgium immigrants to Mexico) and they cannot use their international slots to get other players.

    Me personally, I'd love to have Raul play for Chivas...

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    Quote Originally Posted by krudmonk View Post
    Little Chivas gives me much hope that the NuQuakes can be good by 2010.
    Or maybe you'll follow Real Salt Lake's lead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsctaz View Post
    Help me out with this:

    Why was this designated spot rule put into place specifically? Shouldn't it be up to the team on who they can bring in? Look at Spain, England, Germany, etc. They all can bring in a lot of big names for the right price but I'm not too sure if they also have a limit of how many.

    Is it because they don't want MLS to be like MLB where the Yankees, Red Sox, and Angels can spend like crazy on a lot of players and teams like Kansas City, Pittsburgh, and Tampa Bay can't afford the same? I know in Mexico there are only a certain amount of international players and local players they can bring in which screws over Chivas Guadalajara because they have the policy of having only Mexican players (policy was started by their original founders, French and Belgium immigrants to Mexico) and they cannot use their international slots to get other players.

    Me personally, I'd love to have Raul play for Chivas...
    remember MLS is single entity. So the teams aren't really "owned" by individuals but rather theya re called financial advisors. In single entity the league sign ALL the players and sneds to particular teams (TECHNICALLY). The advantage is they complete control over costs, a rogue owner(steinbrenner)can't just go out and buy all the talent and win every year, though thats not working for the NYY. They also share in all the profits from all the teams as well as the expenses.
    They were ready to go the next level and the Galaxy had established a relationship with Beckham and had plans of bring to mls a few years ago.There was no way his salary was going to fit under the 1.7 Mill cap that was in place at the time, I thik its 1.9 now. They came up with the 'beckham rule"(Designated Player).
    Now that its been a great success and teams have players that will require a DP spot ofr next year(Donovan, Ruiz, DeRosario) theya re looking for a way to allow the teams to keep the player(mostly Donovan), so they will make some other rule up that will allow US players to be except in all or part.


    BTW DeRosario is Canadian National.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsctaz View Post
    Help me out with this:

    Why was this designated spot rule put into place specifically? Shouldn't it be up to the team on who they can bring in? Look at Spain, England, Germany, etc. They all can bring in a lot of big names for the right price but I'm not too sure if they also have a limit of how many.

    Is it because they don't want MLS to be like MLB where the Yankees, Red Sox, and Angels can spend like crazy on a lot of players and teams like Kansas City, Pittsburgh, and Tampa Bay can't afford the same? I know in Mexico there are only a certain amount of international players and local players they can bring in which screws over Chivas Guadalajara because they have the policy of having only Mexican players (policy was started by their original founders, French and Belgium immigrants to Mexico) and they cannot use their international slots to get other players.

    Me personally, I'd love to have Raul play for Chivas...
    The Designated Player Rule was put in for a few reasons.
    1) MLS did not want to be the NASL
    2) The single entity system meant the MLS would pay for these players, with the DP Slots the team owner pays every penny past $400K
    3) Many fans were demanding big name players
    4) Casual fans would pay more attention to big name players
    5) The league thought they could move to the next level with big name players
    6) This one is easily the one that influenced this decision the most, the world's most marketable player expressed interest in joining the MLS.

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