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    Quote Originally Posted by TooCool View Post
    Wow. This will be interesting. It makes you wonder what Memphis is doing here.

    They took a chance on the draft bust Darko... and now Kwame.

    As for Kwame, it makes you also wonder if he'll have any motivation to improve... since he got dealt.
    Crittenton and draft picks were the only component of the trade that are part of the Grizzlies's plans for their future. Kwame and McKie were just throw-ins to make the salaries match. Memphis can now take Gasol's contract off the books and free up cap space to rebuild and sign future picks. Believe me - Memphis isn't counting on Kwame to contribute. He SUCKS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangePuck View Post
    I had a feeling today was gonna be a good day when I put on my Lakers cap and hoody. Can't wait to see this team healthy and in the playoffs. Not title contender yet but next year and/or the year after definitely.

    Typical reaction from a bandwaggoning Ducks fan. Don't worry, the Lakers welcome you back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiehardKingsFan View Post
    The bigger question is how does this trade affect our defense? We're in the bottom 3rd of the NBA in team defense, and Gasol is one of the softest big men in the NBA.
    LOL. He said "defense" and "NBA" in the same sentence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiehardKingsFan View Post
    Gasol will definitely help our offense - he's absoultely deadly in the low post, and will definitely take pressure off of Kobe. But did we really need more offense? We're 3rd in the league in points scored. The bigger question is how does this trade affect our defense? We're in the bottom 3rd of the NBA in team defense, and Gasol is one of the softest big men in the NBA. Given that some of the best bigs in the NBA (eg Duncan, Amare, Dirk) are in the West, this doesn't bode well for us. This likely means the youngster Bynum will be forced to guard these superstars, and they'll probably have huge games against us. I
    Disagree that Gasol is "one of the softest guy's in the league". Seems like that's just a label he has because the Grizz have't done anything in the playoffs. He's a good rebounder and a good shotblocker. Finally playing next to a Center who can also rebound and defend the rim will help him out a ton. You don't average 8 boards a game and close to 2 blocks a game by being "soft".

    I'm not too worried about Gasol's D. It's good enough and he's a very solid shot bocker. The guy's you mentioned aren't going to be shutdown by many guys in the league. Amare is a center(a real candidate for one of the softest guys in the league), Gasol won't be guarding him anyways, that's Bynum's assignment.

    Plus Gasol's offense means he'll make this guy's work on the other end. Other power forwards won't get to take a break on defense like they do now.

    This is from ESPN's scouting reports


    Defensively, Gasol never will be confused with Ben Wallace. He's quick and long but his lack of muscle is a problem in the paint, especially since the Griz lack a bruiser who can help ease the burden.

    Gasol is an effective shot-blocker though, and had by far his best season on the boards. It was hard to tell how much effort he was putting into the proceedings given his demands to be traded and Memphis' general laissez-faire attitude on that end, but one would expect him to perform decently there this season now that Darko Milicic can guard the bigger centers.
    Quote Originally Posted by DieHardKingsfan
    This is why I wish we had gotten a Kidd or Artest - someone who specialized in lockdown D.
    I don't think Jason Kidd is a lock down defender. He's made some all defense teams but the reason he's wanted is he would make Nash work on defense, he would make Parker work on defense, he would make Paul work on defense. You mention all those guy's above(Amare, Dirk, Duncan) how does acquiring Kidd or Artest help that problem. Gasol absolutley fills a need. Without him we would still be fielding an undersized PF in Odom or an even more undersized PF in Turiaf. We get another post threat who can also shoot a mid range jumper and another shotblocker. This is not some luxury, we needed a PF who could score and defend and we finally got one.
    Quote Originally Posted by DieHardKingsFan
    Finally, Gasol will really help our rebounding. So where does that leave Lamar? Perhaps Lamar's biggest contribution to this team has been his rebounding. Is he now expendable?
    Lamar gets to move to his more natural position at SF. He's a good rebounder at 4 and a great rebounder at 3. There's not much pressure on him offensivly now and his mentality of being a creator isn't a burden anymore, in fact it's quite neccessary since our fully healthy starting 5 really has 4 shooters(Fish is a PG but has never been true one). Having a guy in the starting lineup who is truly pass first will be big. Odom is also a very solid defender, our 1-3 guys can switch on anything now which is something all of Phil Jackson's great teams have in common.

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    The Kwame Brown reign of terror is over.






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    Quote Originally Posted by ASUcruz View Post
    I don't think Jason Kidd is a lock down defender. He's made some all defense teams but the reason he's wanted is he would make Nash work on defense, he would make Parker work on defense, he would make Paul work on defense. You mention all those guy's above(Amare, Dirk, Duncan) how does acquiring Kidd or Artest help that problem.
    Because Fisher and Farmar get owned on defense. They have trouble coming off screens, and create gaping holes in our D. Kidd would help in that respect.

    We'll have to see how Gasol does on the defensive end. I've never really thought of Gasol as a defensive cornerstone. One thing's for sure though - the Lakers won't have any trouble scoring points from here on out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiehardKingsFan View Post
    Because Fisher and Farmar get owned on defense. They have trouble coming off screens, and create gaping holes in our D. Kidd would help in that respect.
    No Kidd wouldn't. He's slower than both those guys. Kidd was just here in Phoenix and Nash ripped him apart. He's not some lockdown shutdown defender. Not anymore anyways.

    I'm fine with Fisher and Farmar, I disagree that they get "owned" on defense. Farmar is a pretty good defender, I don't think Kidd is significantly better than either guy in that respect.

    Plus in our offense our point guard has to be able to hit jump shots. Every triangle PG Phil Jackson has had, is able to make open jump shots. Kidd for all his talents isn't very good at hitting the open jumper.

    Quote Originally Posted by DieHardKingsFan
    We'll have to see how Gasol does on the defensive end. I've never really thought of Gasol as a defensive cornerstone. One thing's for sure though - the Lakers won't have any trouble scoring points from here on out.
    He's not a cornerstone. But he's not a liabilty either. He can board and he can protect the rim. Most important of all he'll make other PFs work on D.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangePuck View Post
    I had a feeling today was gonna be a good day when I put on my Lakers cap and hoody. Can't wait to see this team healthy and in the playoffs. Not title contender yet but next year and/or the year after definitely.
    B-A-N-D-W-A-G-O-N Specialist ?

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    meanwhile, the memo from david stern to the officials has already gone through, so expect a Lakers-Celtics finals and a return to the glory days of the 80s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charles View Post
    meanwhile, the memo from david stern to the officials has already gone through, so expect a Lakers-Celtics finals and a return to the glory days of the 80s.
    Pau Gasol was an inside job!

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