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    whether you agree or not this is a very interesting read. Best thing I've read in months and I in some ways agree with it.

    the NFL may not fix games but I believe they do carry out narratives for financial gain.

    Reasons Why The NFL Is Fixed For Profit 03-03-2012-11:41 Covers Blog

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    In 2007 a Jets season ticket holder sued the NFL for $185 million and the case reached the US Supreme Court. The court documents are available online at http://thefixisin.net/resources/prec...al+opinion.pdf. The Jets fan argued that, all Jets fans are entitled to refunds because they paid for a ticket to a legitimate sporting event. Had he been aware that the games were not real then we would not have gone.

    The NFL's attorneys argued that the fan simply "purchased a ticket which gives him a contractual right to a seat in a stadium to watch an NFL game between the Patriots and Jets, and this right was honored." More, Senior Judge Robert E. Cowen agreed stating that a ticket to a game only provides you access to the stadium and nothing more. The fan entered the stadium, witnessed an NFL game, therefore he did not suffer any damages to legally protected right or interest. The fan's lawyer, Bruce Afran disagreed and argued that the NFL committed consumer fraud saying "This seems to suggest that no matter how much ticker holders pay, they can be frauded by NFL teams which puts the NFL on the same level as professional wrestling".

    Afran is correct in his judgement based on the interpretation of game fixing laws. A team can't fix their own games for gambling purposes, nor can they fix an intellectual contest (a ruling based n the Quiz Show scandal of the 1950s) But judges ruled that fixing a game for entertainment purposes was completely LEGAL NFL Attorney Shephard Goldfein actually argued in court supporting this argument saying "fans would likely still buy tickets even if they knew teams were stealing signals" In other word, the NFL knows you will still pay to see football even if you knew it was fake because you love football.

    Much like pro wrestling. The Supreme Court threw the case out in favor of the NFL which ultimately makes it legal to fix your own games for entertainment purposes
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    fast forward to 17:07 of video, expand youtube window to see better.

    a slo-mo of the play with Moss and a DB going after a pass.

    they get close and grab each other but don't really push off at all. I doubt it was legal to just hold a guy for 10 yards 14 years ago.

    they hold each other like they are guiding each other and it even looks like the DB nods at Moss. It looks like Moss touches the DBs shoulder to make him turn to the ball.

    Moss got a little injured because its still a sport LOL but no complaint about being held and no officials say anything and the announcers avoid it too.
    I'm not looking for aliens or some crap. I just think I see staged football


    watch their arms alone a few times. Watch the DBs head alone a few times. Watch moss touch his shoulder a few times. I don't think I'm seeing something that's not there.

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    I'm not much of a football fan but the ruling by the court is interesting.

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    I still do not understand how the NFL keeps it's Non-Profit status.

    All that money and not a dime in taxes.

    And the commissioner only makes 29 mil a year.....






    The NFL is Really Considered a Non-Profit? – New Day - CNN.com Blogs
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    What I love about NFL is that the quarterbacks have a speaker/ear piece in their helmets that they can get plays and whatever else radio'ed into them, and they also wear a trapper keeper on a wristband with about 4 pages of plays on them, and then they have 42 coaches up in the press boxes and on the sidelines and then they get to look at pictures (assuming video by now) on tablets on the sidelines of previous plays and possessions.

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    N ational F elons L eague...need I say more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beedee View Post
    What I love about NFL is that the quarterbacks have a speaker/ear piece in their helmets that they can get plays and whatever else radio'ed into them, and they also wear a trapper keeper on a wristband with about 4 pages of plays on them, and then they have 42 coaches up in the press boxes and on the sidelines and then they get to look at pictures (assuming video by now) on tablets on the sidelines of previous plays and possessions.
    so can I assume you are implying total orchestration ?

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    basically the guys blog pretty much rips of the site of 'the fix is in' guy
    The NFL 2010 - The Fix Is In

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    Quote Originally Posted by davethehammer View Post
    so can I assume you are implying total orchestration ?
    no, i'm just saying what i love about it.

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