JoPa fired!

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Originally Posted by Cross Traffic

Pedoenabler will not be at the game on Saturday due to "threats", what a shock. There are plenty in Happy Valley that would probably want to exact some revenge on that ginger haired fool. Good luck ever getting another job coaching or in his degree of education. Would you want him teaching your kids?

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I know here in CA anyway (and I'm sure there are similar laws in every state) that if we as educators, suspect any form of child abuse, we're mandated by law to report it to the police or local child protective services within 48 hours.

I know it would cost the school some $ to alter the letterhead on their official paperwork, but they really should change the school name from Penn State to State Pen.

Sorry I don't have photoshop skills to produce an updated logo, but there is a reworked one in the Random Picture Thread with Pedobear replacing the Nittany Lion; nicely done at that.

Interesting that you're all too afraid to read the actual report of the grand jury in its entirety, yet you are all on the edge of your seats waiting for what ESPN (that notable establishment of sexual harassment, misogyny, and homophobia) has to report. A lot of what you're quoting as fact in your posts isn't based on any of the testimony offered-- it's what the media has altered and paraphrased. And some of it is downright false, for example, Sandusky was not affiliated with the team in 2002, yet several of you are arguing he was. I'm amazed that some of you know all the facts-- even offering some that haven't been reported anywhere. And you know exactly how many people had knowledge of this. Perhaps you should offer testimony to the grand jury. You were too squeamish to read the presentment, but you all clicked on the link to the rumor about kids being pimped out, didn't you?

PA law requires that allegations of sexual abuse at a state institution must be reported to the Department of Public Welfare and the police having jurisdiction by the Administration. If people think the law sucks, then change it, don't blame people for following it. The administration was notified, for whatever reasons, they didn't follow up on it. Personally I'd like to know why Paterno was fired, yet the AD and head of police services he reported the allegation to were respectively allowed to take leave and retire.

Those "riots" you heard about were greatly exaggerated. One news van turned over. No fires set, no storefronts vandalized, no looting, despite what ESPN reported. Nothing close to what happens in your fair city when a team wins a playoff game. Nothing close to what's been happening in Oakland (yet suddenly nobody gives a **** about who's occupying what where this week. Hmmmm).

I will agree that this is the tip of the iceberg, but not in the way you think. I believe enough victims across the country will be emboldened by this and you'll start hearing about a lot more cases like this across the country, even your own alma mater.

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Originally Posted by Royal_Roader

Interesting that you're all too afraid to read the actual report of the grand jury in its entirety, yet you are all on the edge of your seats waiting for what ESPN (that notable establishment of sexual harassment, misogyny, and homophobia) has to report. A lot of what you're quoting as fact in your posts isn't based on any of the testimony offered-- it's what the media has altered and paraphrased. And some of it is downright false, for example, Sandusky was not affiliated with the team in 2002, yet several of you are arguing he was. I'm amazed that some of you know all the facts-- even offering some that haven't been reported anywhere. And you know exactly how many people had knowledge of this. Perhaps you should offer testimony to the grand jury. You were too squeamish to read the presentment, but you all clicked on the link to the rumor about kids being pimped out, didn't you?

PA law requires that allegations of sexual abuse at a state institution must be reported to the Department of Public Welfare and the police having jurisdiction by the Administration. If people think the law sucks, then change it, don't blame people for following it. The administration was notified, for whatever reasons, they didn't follow up on it. Personally I'd like to know why Paterno was fired, yet the AD and head of police services he reported the allegation to were respectively allowed to take leave and retire.

Those "riots" you heard about were greatly exaggerated. One news van turned over. No fires set, no storefronts vandalized, no looting, despite what ESPN reported. Nothing close to what happens in your fair city when a team wins a playoff game. Nothing close to what's been happening in Oakland (yet suddenly nobody gives a **** about who's occupying what where this week. Hmmmm).

I will agree that this is the tip of the iceberg, but not in the way you think. I believe enough victims across the country will be emboldened by this and you'll start hearing about a lot more cases like this across the country, even your own alma mater.

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Not sure who this is directed to, but I read the entire grand jury report. PA law on mandatory reporting needs to be changed immediately. Anyone who witnesses abuse must call the police (not campus police) or CPS.

Thing that pisses me off even more is the McQueary played in Sandusky's golf tourney in 2004 for his sham of a "foundation". My guess is that McQueary was given a job for keeping quiet. Some low moral character there buddy.

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Originally Posted by Cross Traffic

Thing that pisses me off even more is the McQueary played in Sandusky's golf tourney in 2004 for his sham of a "foundation". My guess is that McQueary was given a job for keeping quiet. Some low moral character there buddy.

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Completely agree.

For Tonga -

Penn State top recruit reportedly will not attend school - College Football News | FOX Sports on MSN

Maybe he'll come to UCLA.

It begins

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Originally Posted by Royal_Roader

Interesting that you're all too afraid to read the actual report of the grand jury in its entirety, yet you are all on the edge of your seats waiting for what ESPN (that notable establishment of sexual harassment, misogyny, and homophobia) has to report. A lot of what you're quoting as fact in your posts isn't based on any of the testimony offered-- it's what the media has altered and paraphrased. And some of it is downright false, for example, Sandusky was not affiliated with the team in 2002, yet several of you are arguing he was. I'm amazed that some of you know all the facts-- even offering some that haven't been reported anywhere. And you know exactly how many people had knowledge of this. Perhaps you should offer testimony to the grand jury. You were too squeamish to read the presentment, but you all clicked on the link to the rumor about kids being pimped out, didn't you?

PA law requires that allegations of sexual abuse at a state institution must be reported to the Department of Public Welfare and the police having jurisdiction by the Administration. If people think the law sucks, then change it, don't blame people for following it. The administration was notified, for whatever reasons, they didn't follow up on it. Personally I'd like to know why Paterno was fired, yet the AD and head of police services he reported the allegation to were respectively allowed to take leave and retire.

Those "riots" you heard about were greatly exaggerated. One news van turned over. No fires set, no storefronts vandalized, no looting, despite what ESPN reported. Nothing close to what happens in your fair city when a team wins a playoff game. Nothing close to what's been happening in Oakland (yet suddenly nobody gives a **** about who's occupying what where this week. Hmmmm).

I will agree that this is the tip of the iceberg, but not in the way you think. I believe enough victims across the country will be emboldened by this and you'll start hearing about a lot more cases like this across the country, even your own alma mater.

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Uh. . .in 1998 when he was investigated the FIRST time, he WAS associated with the team. It was right before he retired after being regarded as one of the best coordinators in the country. I'm sure that was just a coincidence. I'm also sure that they had no idea he was still using school facilities up until the other week even though he was on trial for sexually assaulting several children on campus grounds in addition to on team trips like bowl games. Why ANYONE would defend Paterno at this point blows me away.

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Originally Posted by SmytheKing

Uh. . .in 1998 when he was investigated the FIRST time, he WAS associated with the team. It was right before he retired after being regarded as one of the best coordinators in the country. I'm sure that was just a coincidence. I'm also sure that they had no idea he was still using school facilities up until the other week even though he was on trial for sexually assaulting several children on campus grounds in addition to on team trips like bowl games. Why ANYONE would defend Paterno at this point blows me away.

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That remains one of the questions people have--- who is "they" who allowed Sandusky to use campus facilities? And why did some of "them" get fired while others got to resign, or go on paid leave? Why not give everyone the same treatment? Why did nobody else who saw him with these kids at bowl games report their suspicions? Wouldn't that be the "moral" thing to do? Or is moral only what we expect from everyone else?

Perhaps you should direct some of your righteous indignation toward your own organization that allows coaches who engage in incest to remain employed.