April 21st, 2010, 01:08 PM #21
June 9th, 2010, 03:51 PM #22
Last edited by Hoya; June 10th, 2010 at 04:32 AM.
June 9th, 2010, 09:55 PM #23
SC is pretty much got bent over, these sanctions are huge. Something bigger must have been going on then what was rumored for this to happen.
Feel really bad for the players that did nothing.
June 10th, 2010, 04:21 AM #24
I don't feel that bad. They knew what they were signing up for. This possibility has loomed over the program for a few years now, and recruits chose to go with the prestige of USC football, a prestige that was built on a lot of shady behavior in the last decade.
Originally Posted by sarf
June 10th, 2010, 12:49 PM #25
June 10th, 2010, 01:34 PM #26
I agree with this, they had to know that the hammer was going to drop. That being said it has been reported on a couple of occasions on several different sports shows that Kiffin assured recruits that the penalty would be no big deal, come to SC and it will be great. I don't know if that he was really that naive or he is just a scumbag liar....... or a mixture of both.
Originally Posted by Hoya
SC got what it had coming.
June 10th, 2010, 03:12 PM #27
Just ask the state of Tennessee.
Originally Posted by Kings Provisional
June 10th, 2010, 03:39 PM #28
They "vacated" wins in two other sports than football (basketball, tennis), and they self-banned themselves from a postseason in men's basketball... how is the football penalty really different? The only big difference I see is that a football penalty hurts this football powerhouse much, much more.
Originally Posted by sarf
Is the NCAA making an example of them? Probably. But the repeat offender aspect, the "lack of institutional control," is most certainly why the penalty is so significant. Lessons clearly weren't learned last time.
Oh, and boy does it reek of a rat jumping off a sinking ship that Pete Carroll left when he did.
June 10th, 2010, 06:16 PM #29
As a USC fan I disappointed but no surprised. I am more disappointed that the people who did the offensives get ZERO penalties and the kids in the program now get screwed. It sucks for the 20 recruits that would have had scholarships. Bush, Mayo and Carroll as well as the people that made the illegal payments, all of which knew what they were doing was wrong and one is a repeat offender, get no sanctions fines or jailtime and that needs to be addressed by the NCAA.
I would hope the NCAA could make the payment a federal crime and somehow sanction players once they leave the program either by making them liable for the lost revenue or by some code of conduct contracts with the athletes
The upside is ALL the USC players are now free to transfer w/o having to apply for exemptions,red-shirting or losing a year of eligibilit. Come and get them UCLA, CAL, ASU Stanford and the rest of the Pac10. I hear they need a QB in Oregon
June 11th, 2010, 04:22 AM #30
Actually, it's only the players whose eligibility runs out before the bowl ban expires. So only players with two years or less of eligibility (e.g. Mitch Mustain).
Originally Posted by SuxBeingU