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    Quote Originally Posted by ASUcruz View Post
    Him or hopefully Glenn Dorsey. I love McFadden but the Raiders didn't have trouble running the ball last year, it was stopping the run that was the huge problem.
    Assuming the Dolphins don't trade their pick, they draft Dorsey.

    McFadden + Russell = at least fun to watch next season!

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    Quote Originally Posted by USCKingsFan31 View Post
    Assuming the Dolphins don't trade their pick, they draft Dorsey.

    McFadden + Russell = at least fun to watch next season!
    I wouldn't say that is such a lock. Parcells loves running the 3-4 defense and the Dolphins already have the 3-4 in place. Dorsey is a one gap penetrating defensive tackle. His style is not ideal to being a 3-4 NT. He's talented enough to probably play NT in the 3-4 but it would not be a good use of his skills and you wouldn't be getting the awesome player he was at LSU.

    Dorsey is best suited to being the penetrating DT in a 4-3 defense partnered up with a 2 gap DT who'll occupy blocks and stop the run. Kevin and Pat Williams in Minnesota is a good example of this combo.

    Dorsey is suited to playing 2 gap in a 3-4 holding up blockers and stuffing the line ala Ted Washington, Vince Wilfork, or Casey Hampton.

    Also keep in mind, provided the Raiders retain this coaching staff, that Kiffin and Tom Cable have installed the zone blocking system to great effect. One of the main philosphies behind this technique is that the right type of RB can be successful(see Justin Fargas/every Denver RB). It's not neccessary to have a top 5 talent at RB to make this system succeed.

    I love McFadden and Al might fall in love with his measurables but with this philosophy the Raiders might pass on McFadden and take Dorsey if available or a Chris Long, perhaps even a Sedrick Ellis.

    I'll be putting together a post Senior Bowl pre combine mock. Make sure you weigh in on it USCkingsfan.

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    If Kiffen stays, which seems unlikely, then I think the pick might be Ellis...if Al has his way, it might be the kid of a former Raider...Chris Long. Dorsey, Ellis or Long would all be great picks, Dmac wouldn't be a bad pick, but the biggest need is on the Dline.

    Hopefully we win that coin toss and pick 3rd...but being a Raider fan, I what to truly expec.t

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    ESPN - Kelly signs seven-year, $50.5 million contract with Raiders - NFL

    Kelly signs seven-year, $50.5 million contract with Raiders

    The Oakland Raiders stepped forward Thursday on the eve of free agency and signed Tommy Kelly to the largest contract ever given to a defensive tackle.

    Kelly, a defensive end scheduled to move to defensive tackle this season, signed a seven-year, $50.5 million contract Thursday that has $18.125 million in guarantees. In the first three years of the deal, he will make $25.125 million.
    lol.

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    Wonder what Haynesworth will get now. He has to have a pretty big smile on his face.

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    The Raiders reached an agreement with former New York Giants free-agent safety Gibril Wilson on a six-year contract worth $39 million, including $16 million guaranteed. The Giants had a rough Friday. They lost Wilson, and linebackers Kawika Mitchell and Reggie Torbor.
    --Adam Schefter
    Yikes.

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    As a Pittsburg Steelers fan alll my life, let me be the first to say...HA, HA!!!!!!!!!

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    What the **** are we thinking, giving these enormous contracts to players who haven't proved their worth?

    Kelly and Wilson are solid players no doubt, but this is absolutely ridiculous, giving them that kind of money as if they were in the NFL's elite.

    Al Davis has destroyed the Raiders. We will never be great again as long as he's in control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiehardKingsFan View Post
    What the **** are we thinking, giving these enormous contracts to players who haven't proved their worth?

    Kelly and Wilson are solid players no doubt, but this is absolutely ridiculous, giving them that kind of money as if they were in the NFL's elite.
    Because when you're bad you have to overpay for "decent-good" players. That's just the way it is.

    The thing with NFL contracts is players NEVER get the full amount. So the guaranteed number is the one to look at. Kelly got overpaid, but he's a player who has shown flashes of talent, he's not worth the money he got, especially coming off ACL surgery but he's not going to get all 50 million that the Raiders signed him to.

    Same with Wilson, he's a good safety not a great one. It's a huge position of need for the Raiders, 16 million guaranteed over 6 years isn't terrible and damn near every team is way under the cap. I'm happy that this means Stuart Schwiegert is no longer going to receive any signifigant playing time and hopefully is cut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASUcruz View Post
    Because when you're bad you have to overpay for "decent-good" players. That's just the way it is.

    The thing with NFL contracts is players NEVER get the full amount. So the guaranteed number is the one to look at. Kelly got overpaid, but he's a player who has shown flashes of talent, he's not worth the money he got, especially coming off ACL surgery but he's not going to get all 50 million that the Raiders signed him to.

    Same with Wilson, he's a good safety not a great one. It's a huge position of need for the Raiders, 16 million guaranteed over 6 years isn't terrible and damn near every team is way under the cap. I'm happy that this means Stuart Schwiegert is no longer going to receive any signifigant playing time and hopefully is cut.
    Yea, at least Wilson can tackle. Stu was terrible at it - I don't know how many times he'd miss a tackle to give up a big play. And I suppose that when Kelly's healthy he's solid on the line, although we'll see how effective he is coming off his ACL injury.

    It's just that with Kelly and Wilson locked up, along with franchise-tagging Asomugha, we don't have a lot of room to address other needs, like wide receiver and o-line.

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