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    Holy ****.

    Did you guys hear about de la Hoya's "controversial" pictures?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnderPressure View Post
    Holy ****.

    Did you guys hear about de la Hoya's "controversial" pictures?
    Yea, they looked photo shopped to me. Here judge them for yourself.

    http://www.barstoolsports.com/random...ready_for_his/

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    Pavlik is going to beat the hell out of Taylor in just a little while now...

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    Can't wait for the fight on Saturday!! Been a while since there was a decent fight on HBO.

    My Saturday schedule:
    9:00 AM: Kings vs Ducks
    12:30: Cal @ Oregon (college football)
    5:00: USC @ Washington
    7:15: Taylor VS Pavlik

    Doesn't get much better than that.

    PAVLIK BY TKO IN ROUND 11

    ENJOY THE FIGHT EVERYONE (All 5 of you).

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    I like Pavlik early - Taylor's staff has been dodging power for years now, and Pavlik is too accurate and heavy handed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bland View Post
    I like Pavlik early - Taylor's staff has been dodging power for years now, and Pavlik is too accurate and heavy handed.
    I agree that Taylor's staff has been ducking(boxing term)
    heavy hitters for the last 3 years or so. Does he have the heart to comeback from a knockdown? We may find out on Saturday.

    I think Taylor will be quick enough to avoid the big shots early and use his jab to keep Pavlik at distance for the first half of the fight. Later in the fight, Taylor will revert back to his style of going to the ropes, and this is where Pavlik is going to pounce. Late KO IMO.

    The only way Taylor has a shot IMO, is to #1 stay off the ropes, and #2...Jab, Jab, Jab, Jab, Jab, hook, hook. He's got to put those combos together. He likes to admire his work too much, that won't work against someone like Pavlik. Pavlik will keep coming no matter how many times he's been hit. He's a mexcian fighter in a white guys body.

    It would be great for boxing to have a champ like Pavlik. He seems like a good kid. Maybe, if he wins, he'll go up in class and fight the winner of Kessler/Calzaghe.

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    Who has Taylor ducked? I mean the guy fought Hopkins twice and then Winky. Not big time punchers but 2 of the toughest guys in the sport.

    Who else at MW did you guys want him to fight? Ouma and Spinx were gimme fights but I don't blame the guy for taking a break after fighting 3 tough fights.

    Miranda didn't deserve a fight with Taylor, not with his suspect resume. Calzaghe and Kessler don't want to fight in the states. Why should JT have to go to Europe? He has the straps.

    I'm not a Taylor fan, but I don't see these serial "ducking" of power opponents that you guys are seeing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASUcruz View Post
    Who has Taylor ducked? I mean the guy fought Hopkins twice and then Winky. Not big time punchers but 2 of the toughest guys in the sport.

    Who else at MW did you guys want him to fight? Ouma and Spinx were gimme fights but I don't blame the guy for taking a break after fighting 3 tough fights.

    Miranda didn't deserve a fight with Taylor, not with his suspect resume. Calzaghe and Kessler don't want to fight in the states. Why should JT have to go to Europe? He has the straps.

    I'm not a Taylor fan, but I don't see these serial "ducking" of power opponents that you guys are seeing.
    I don't think he was ducking anyone, but he has only been in with a bunch of Jamie Moyer's over the last few years...

    Taylor is just flat out terrible at controlling distance and establishing angles. He's a straight ahead jab-jab-jab-right cross fighter. He doesn't have the game to throw Pavlik's plodding style off-kilter. Pavlik will walk right through the jabs - he has a crafty, subtle defense, and he will land a ton of hard shots on Taylor.

    I don't even think it will be close...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bland View Post
    Taylor is just flat out terrible at controlling distance and establishing angles. He's a straight ahead jab-jab-jab-right cross fighter. He doesn't have the game to throw Pavlik's plodding style off-kilter. Pavlik will walk right through the jabs - he has a crafty, subtle defense, and he will land a ton of hard shots on Taylor.

    I don't even think it will be close...
    By that same token I think Pavilk will feel Taylor's power too. You say he has a craft and subtle defense. I didn't see any of that against Miranda. He took a bunch of shots but he has a great chin. Taylor was able to get through Winky's defense, probably the best in the world. I don't think he'll have any trouble hitting Pavlik.

    I think it'll be a close fight. Everyone seems to be on Pavlik's jock because of one fight. He looked great against Edson Miranda, but let's face it, Miranda was not top of the food chain or anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASUcruz View Post
    By that same token I think Pavilk will feel Taylor's power too. You say he has a craft and subtle defense. I didn't see any of that against Miranda. He took a bunch of shots but he has a great chin. Taylor was able to get through Winky's defense, probably the best in the world. I don't think he'll have any trouble hitting Pavlik.

    I think it'll be a close fight. Everyone seems to be on Pavlik's jock because of one fight. He looked great against Edson Miranda, but let's face it, Miranda was not top of the food chain or anything.

    I've seen a good 12-15 of Pavlik's fights, and he DOES have a solid defense - he didn't start getting hit by Miranda until later in that fight, when Pavlik had already softened him up. He was trying to get Miranda to exchange with him so he could finish him off, which is exactly what happened. Miranda didn't land dick in the first three rounds of that fight.

    Pavlik is a craftsman, where as Taylor is just an outstanding athlete with little real boxing skills. He got the good end of two lousy decisions against Hopkins (I had both fights scored 116-112 for Hopkins), he clearly lost to Wright, and I even had lowly Spinks eeking out a victory.

    Winky Wright's defense is highly overrated - there is no skill there - it is just a shield he throws up. Any fighter could plant there elbows on their hips and velco their gloves to their temples if they choose, but becasue Winky's willing to stink out the house night after night, he deserves praise for his defense? Not from me...

    Taylor has a very good right hand, but if he decides to try and trade with Pavlik, I don't think he has a chance at all. I also don't think Taylor has the mental prowess to develop and stick to an effective game plan either.

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