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    Default Does anybody like shooting?

    I'm going to purchase my first handgun, and wanted to ask some questions about a couple of pistols I'm looking at.

    I've always wanted a Glock 21 or a Kimber Stainless Custom II. But now I think I want a 9mm.

    I'm thinking about a Glock 19. But Springfield Armory makes a really sweet weapon. The XDM. Check it out.
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    What should I consider before I Buy.

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    I'm a shotgun man myself so I don't know what help I may be but, get a .45. Cant go wrong with those.

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    First and foremost, before deciding what model you want to buy, I would suggest going to a range that rents guns and trying them out first. No sense investing $600-$800 in a gun that doesn't fit right/feel right in your hand.

    When I bought my first handgun, I went to a gun shop that had a range and rented a Glock, a S&W, a couple others that I liked the look of... after the 2nd gun at $10 each, the guy stopped charging me the rental fee because he knew I was looking to buy something. Sure enough, the 5th or 6th gun I tried was a Sig Sauer P220 .45 cal. It felt right in my grip, it felt great when I shot it... so I went to their used gun section and sure enough they had one in their two-tone finish with Hogue grips. I'm as pleased with that gun today as I was the day I bought it.



    I wasn't a big fan of the 9mm back when the military dropped the 1911A1 .45 cal in favor of it due to less stopping power. I just like the feeling that if I ever need to use it, the person I use it on is getting put on their backside and not continuing toward me. But I know there are a ton of people who can provide proof that the 9mm was plenty to put them on their backside.

    My next purchase, possibly either a Walther PPK or something from H&K. Sadly the days of the assault rifle are long gone.

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    The Sig looks like a hybrid of a glock and an XD. Same shape and color as the XD, same trigger housing as the glock.



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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG JOE View Post
    I'm a shotgun man myself so I don't know what help I may be but, get a .45. Cant go wrong with those.
    I thought about a .45, because you can still find cases of hollow points. 9mm hallow points are agency issued only in CA. I'm pretty sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tre West View Post
    I thought about a .45, because you can still find cases of hollow points. 9mm hallow points are agency issued only in CA. I'm pretty sure.
    Hollow points of any kind aren't illegal or restricted in CA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tre West View Post
    I'm going to purchase my first handgun, and wanted to ask some questions about a couple of pistols I'm looking at.

    I've always wanted a Glock 21 or a Kimber Stainless Custom II. But now I think I want a 9mm.

    I'm thinking about a Glock 19. But Springfield Armory makes a really sweet weapon. The XDM. Check it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ImA1032 View Post
    First and foremost, before deciding what model you want to buy, I would suggest going to a range that rents guns and trying them out first. No sense investing $600-$800 in a gun that doesn't fit right/feel right in your hand.

    When I bought my first handgun, I went to a gun shop that had a range and rented a Glock, a S&W, a couple others that I liked the look of... after the 2nd gun at $10 each, the guy stopped charging me the rental fee because he knew I was looking to buy something. Sure enough, the 5th or 6th gun I tried was a Sig Sauer P220 .45 cal. It felt right in my grip, it felt great when I shot it... so I went to their used gun section and sure enough they had one in their two-tone finish with Hogue grips. I'm as pleased with that gun today as I was the day I bought it.



    I wasn't a big fan of the 9mm back when the military dropped the 1911A1 .45 cal in favor of it due to less stopping power. I just like the feeling that if I ever need to use it, the person I use it on is getting put on their backside and not continuing toward me. But I know there are a ton of people who can provide proof that the 9mm was plenty to put them on their backside.

    My next purchase, possibly either a Walther PPK or something from H&K. Sadly the days of the assault rifle are long gone.
    This is very good advice. The feel of the gun in your hand and the trigger will have a great deal to do with your long term satisfaction with the gun. The weight and smoothness of the trigger pull varies significantly from gun to gun.You need to try out different guns either by shooting them at a range or at the very least going to a gun shop and dry firing them with a snap cap to get the feel of the trigger pull. Personally, I am not a big fan of the XD platform although I haven't shot the new model. I would encourage at least handling and testing the trigger of a Sig to compare. With the 1911 platform, Kimbers are nice, but you'll never regret going with a Les Baer or Wilson Combat. Pricey yes, but if you consider that it is going to last you the rest of your life and your childrens as well, I consider it well worth it.

    You also need to consider how much you plan on shooting and what the primary use of the weapon is. If primarily for self-defense and just shooting enough to stay safely proficient, your decision should be based on the performance of the caliber. If more for target shooting then you need to consider the cost of the rounds. 9mm is significantly cheaper than .40 or .45. If you shoot 500 rounds at a session the price of 9mm will be about $100 vs about $250 for .45. Reloading helps but that is a separate, complicated issue.

    Sadly the days of the assault rifle are long gone
    Assault rifles yes but semi-auto AR-15's, AK's and SKS are alive and well in CA. Visit Calguns.net on how to do an off-list lower build. Perfectly legal if done right.

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    Anybody recommend a good range around LA? Indoor or outdoor, I prefer outdoor but a great indoor range will do.

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    I remember when I got my first Glock 20 10 mm, the way it felt in my hands, the smell of break free eminating from every pore and oozing from her chamber. I will never forget working her all night long, back and forth, the more I fired the hotter we got. She will always be a part of my soul, the finest balance and best action I have ever driven deep into the heart of...

    Huh...where was I? The 10 mm is a nice gun..yeah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Jack View Post
    Anybody recommend a good range around LA? Indoor or outdoor, I prefer outdoor but a great indoor range will do.
    For outdoors I like Burro canyon, in azusa. It's about 40 miles from Staples. I don't think there is a closer outdoor range.
    You can get away from the firing line by reserving a private range where they pretty much leave you alone. A guy on a quad will come by every once in a while just to be sure you're not firing steel core, tracer rnds, or burying a body. Bring plenty of ammo, they do sell it there but they are frquently out of common stuff, and its about 15 mins back to the freeway if they are sold out of what you need.
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