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    We have resorted to quoting Plaschke now? Ugh.

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    as long as the Busses, Kupchak, and Phil try to simultaneously run this ship, the Laker franchise isn't going anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiehardKingsFan View Post
    as long as the Busses, Kupchak, and Phil try to simultaneously run this ship, the Laker franchise isn't going anywhere.
    Enough with the blame game. Just fix the **** this offseason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiehardKingsFan View Post
    as long as the Busses, Kupchak, and Phil try to simultaneously run this ship, the Laker franchise isn't going anywhere.
    Kobe will be gone if they don't do anything soon. Kobe can opt out of his contract in 2009. So don't be suprised if Kobe tells management to get someone or else...

    also its time to ditch Bynum, no way is Kobe going wait for this guy to develop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twenty-four View Post
    Kobe will be gone if they don't do anything soon. Kobe can opt out of his contract in 2009. So don't be suprised if Kobe tells management to get someone or else...

    also its time to ditch Bynum, no way is Kobe going wait for this guy to develop.
    The Lakers can still pay him more than any other team can (in years and dollars), and most big-market teams won't have the cap room to offer him a max deal.

    So pretty much, not really that worried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbruin152 View Post
    The Lakers can still pay him more than any other team can (in years and dollars), and most big-market teams won't have the cap room to offer him a max deal.

    So pretty much, not really that worried.
    I think Kobe's desire for ring is greater than for more money. Besides he gets most of his money from endorsements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiehardKingsFan View Post
    as long as the Busses, Kupchak, and Phil try to simultaneously run this ship, the Laker franchise isn't going anywhere.
    Quote Originally Posted by jbruin152 View Post
    Enough with the blame game. Just fix the **** this offseason.
    I miss Jerry West.

    The "fix" is to stop letting the inmates run the asylum. The inmates include Kobe, Phil, "Dr." Buss, prodigal son Jim, and anyone else not employed as GM.

    Unfortunately, Kupchak doesn't have the gravitas to keep the inmates in line. West did, but the inmates pushed him out.

    Mitch gets a pass for the Shaq trade which was an impossible situation. Really wish you'd squeezed D-Wade out of them, but the inmates didn't give him any leverage.

    But Kwame for Caron ain't lookin' so good.

    And this nonsense surrounding Jim Buss and Bynum is ludicrous. Nepotism has been the downfall of how many dynasties in the history of civilization? Ah, but Jerry Buss' degree wasn't a Ph.D. in history.

    Still, you'd think Jerry Buss was a smart guy if he could get a Ph.D. Makes you wonder where he went to school...

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    Quote Originally Posted by twenty-four View Post
    Kobe will be gone if they don't do anything soon. Kobe can opt out of his contract in 2009. So don't be suprised if Kobe tells management to get someone or else...

    also its time to ditch Bynum, no way is Kobe going wait for this guy to develop.
    So be it. The beginning of the end came when the Lakers bowed down to Kobe. I'll find it incredibly funny if the very guy that forced the Lakers to give him his own team leaves because they aren't winning.

    Trade him to whichever team gets one of the first two picks in this draft with expiring contracts and a decent young guy if it's possible. Take Greg Oden or the kid from Texas and start over. You want to take a risk? Then do it. Kobe not only doesn't have the sense to run a team, players don't want to play with him. Time to move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmytheKing View Post
    So be it. The beginning of the end came when the Lakers bowed down to Kobe. I'll find it incredibly funny if the very guy that forced the Lakers to give him his own team leaves because they aren't winning.
    um, bull-****ing s***

    Shaq is a big arrogant pussy. With the Lakers (and even now) Shaq plays about a month of the regular season and then gets injured and disappears until around Christmas. During this time Kobe had to put the team on his back as if it's his team. Then Shaq comes back, fat, out of shape and wants the ball to go through him the entire game. Shaq would demand that Kobe pass the ball and not take shots. Despite Shaq being a selfish prick Kobe had no problem deferring to Shaq for the first 3 quarters but felt like the fourth quarter should be controlled by someone that can shoot free-throws. Kobe was smart enough to know Shaq's lack of free-throw shooting would hurt them down the stretch of games while Shaq was too arrogant to see it himself, always claiming "I can make em in the 4th" when as we all know he's one of the worst FT shooters in the game..

    Shaq was also a cruiser - he didn't mind doing just enough in the regular season and turning it up in the playoffs, but Kobe wanted to destroy the other team every game. Kobe being the competitor he is ever so slightly questioned Shaq's work ethics/conditioning and Shaq the pompous ass took it personally and got angry at Kobe.

    Shaq wanted out. Just like he wanted out of Orlando. Shaq was Penny's big brother and loved Orlando until he realized the team couldn't get over the hump - then he was a 'big fish in a small pond' and needed to move on to bigger things in LA. While in LA, he was Kobe's big brother and smiled and grinned his way to three championships and praised Phil as the best coach in the world while slamming Penny and the Magic under the bus whenever he got a chance. Then we started losing and instead of accepting responsibility for his role in the team's demise, he threw Kobe, Dr. Buss, and Kupchak under the bus, got pissed off at some comment Kupchak made, and demanded a trade to Miami to be with his new pal Dwayne Wade. He has also proceeded to bash Dr. Buss, Kobe, the city of LA and anyone who happened to be wearing purple and gold at each opportunity he has had.

    But, I guess some people are too ignorant to acknowledge that Shaq was a pompous ass taht wanted out of LA, and would rather heap all the blame on Kobe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiehardKingsFan View Post
    um, bull-****ing s***

    Shaq is a big arrogant pussy. With the Lakers (and even now) Shaq plays about a month of the regular season and then gets injured and disappears until around Christmas. During this time Kobe had to put the team on his back as if it's his team. Then Shaq comes back, fat, out of shape and wants the ball to go through him the entire game. Shaq would demand that Kobe pass the ball and not take shots. Despite Shaq being a selfish prick Kobe had no problem deferring to Shaq for the first 3 quarters but felt like the fourth quarter should be controlled by someone that can shoot free-throws. Kobe was smart enough to know Shaq's lack of free-throw shooting would hurt them down the stretch of games while Shaq was too arrogant to see it himself, always claiming "I can make em in the 4th" when as we all know he's one of the worst FT shooters in the game..

    Shaq was also a cruiser - he didn't mind doing just enough in the regular season and turning it up in the playoffs, but Kobe wanted to destroy the other team every game. Kobe being the competitor he is ever so slightly questioned Shaq's work ethics/conditioning and Shaq the pompous ass took it personally and got angry at Kobe.

    Shaq wanted out. Just like he wanted out of Orlando. Shaq was Penny's big brother and loved Orlando until he realized the team couldn't get over the hump - then he was a 'big fish in a small pond' and needed to move on to bigger things in LA. While in LA, he was Kobe's big brother and smiled and grinned his way to three championships and praised Phil as the best coach in the world while slamming Penny and the Magic under the bus whenever he got a chance. Then we started losing and instead of accepting responsibility for his role in the team's demise, he threw Kobe, Dr. Buss, and Kupchak under the bus, got pissed off at some comment Kupchak made, and demanded a trade to Miami to be with his new pal Dwayne Wade. He has also proceeded to bash Dr. Buss, Kobe, the city of LA and anyone who happened to be wearing purple and gold at each opportunity he has had.

    But, I guess some people are too ignorant to acknowledge that Shaq was a pompous ass taht wanted out of LA, and would rather heap all the blame on Kobe.
    If you really believe Kobe had nothing to do with Shaq leaving, tell me why he wouldn't resign until after he was gone. Also, you really think Kobe sticks around if they don't trade him?

    Go ahead and believe what you like though. Common sense tells anyone with an open mind different.

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