October 1st, 2009, 10:14 PM #1431
Very disappointing fight. You would think Kimbo would spend more time working on his ground game.
October 2nd, 2009, 04:33 AM #1432
Nobody looks strong after 3 weeks in. Hopefully, someone will look like a legitimate contender in the next couple of weeks.
October 2nd, 2009, 09:44 AM #1433
Kimbo had like 8 months between fights and it looks like he didn't work on his ground game at all. Roy didn't impress me either. I thought his punches at the end of round 1 looked like they were doing a little bit of damage, but the ones in round 2 were literally baby slaps. I don't think they should have stood them up though. Nelson WAS far too happy with his performance though. Yes he got Kimbo in really bad positions, but he didn't do much with them.
Clearly Nelson is the guy to beat, due to his experience, but lets hope someone else gives him a good run for his money.
October 7th, 2009, 10:44 PM #1434
This is why I think they should have been stood up. Some fat guy laying there doing nothing. If he's trying submissions, that would be fine. This lay & pray **** pisses me off.
Originally Posted by OvertimeHero
October 8th, 2009, 09:48 AM #1435
It was not L & P. Big Country was actually actively fighting him. He did not do a lot of damage, but he got what he wanted. Kimbo has zero ground game and you cannot survive in MMA without one. I am sure if and when Kimbo has his next fight in TUF his opponent will try and take it to the ground. I predict an armbar or triangle.
October 8th, 2009, 04:30 PM #1436
I can see why it wasn't stood up, simply because Nelson had Kimbo in a dominant position. I just thought Roy could've put a little more "umph" into those punches. I wouldn't call it lay & pray, but only because of the positional advantage. It was the closest he could get to lay & pray without being in Kimbo's guard. I think Roy half assed attempted 1 kimura and that was all.
Originally Posted by psychopuck
I haven't watched last night's episode yet, but from what I read, the fight is a little more exciting.
October 8th, 2009, 04:44 PM #1437
Right, there is no way that fight should have been stood up. What Nelson did was in no way lay and pray. He had Kimbo in a dominant position, was in total control, and was active. Like OH mentions, Nelson probably could have been throwing harder punches but there is no way you can stand a fight up when the man on top is in such a dominant spot. I can understand if the guy on the bottom is in full guard and the man on top makes no attempt to pass. But crucifix position on top? No way you can stand that up.
Originally Posted by OvertimeHero
October 17th, 2009, 11:59 AM #1438
You guys are right. After watching it again, I'll admit he was moving around and fighting a bit. What really pisses me off is that was his plan. He told the guys in the house "you don't have to hit them hard just repeatedly". There is no way I stop that fight, there was no damage being done.
And YES Kimbo needs some ground game, but I don't think he'll learn it on Rampage's team.
Last edited by psychopuck; October 17th, 2009 at 12:01 PM.
October 18th, 2009, 04:59 PM #1439
I don't think anybody learns ANYTHING on Rampage's team.
October 19th, 2009, 11:50 AM #1440
I think Rashad might have defied the odds and picked all the truly talented guys for his team. Greg Jackson and that camp helping train is an asset.
But Rampage is an idiot and has no business coaching. I'd just pick two camps (Top Team, etc) and have them train the guys for 4 weeks or so THEN start the show.