May 26th, 2007, 09:44 PM #231
Woo Rampage!! And now Hendo in the UFC, Rampage vs Henderson is going to be a great fight...then a possible rematch with Chuck and Rampage, a couple good fights down the road.
Also, I thought it was a great overall card.
May 26th, 2007, 10:53 PM #232
Gonna do my breakdown real quick here. Curious to see what the rest of you thought.
Starnes vs. Leben
So, I was wrong. . .sort of. For all the talk during the fight of Starnes being tired, Leben sure looked gassed about midway through the second. His punches were slow and wild and he seemed like he was stumbling out there. I gave the first and third to Leben however because of overall performance. One of the things I hate about the UFC is that a guy can stand there and take some shots and then take a guy down to win a round. That's exactly what happened in the first and third. He took Leben down but did absolutely nothing while down there. Holding position on a guy doesn't win you a fight in my eyes. Not sure that the decision was the right one.
Martin vs. Salaverry
Thought this was an early stoppage, but then again, Salaverry wasn't doing much on the ground when he was being hit. The "slam" wasn't much of one and Salaverry was right up as soon as the fight was stopped. Thought Martin was dumb for calling out Silva after that performance though. He'd get murdered.
Alexander vs. Jardine
Wow! Who saw that coming? For a 40 second fight, it was damn exciting. I thought it was gonna be over when Jardine landed that first right. Alexander said he slipped, but I don't buy it. He fell right into the cage. Great recovery though and he landed some nasty bombs on Jardine after that. Anytime you lose your mouthpiece, you know you've been rocked. That first uppercut that lifted him up reminded me of that Tank Abbott vs. Steve Nelmark fight.
Stephens vs. Thomas
Good showing by Stephens in this fight. Looks like he could really do something in the future. He had a great defense against a vet on that choke. I think he got a little anxious after that and got sloppy. Thomas is on a little bit of a roll right now, but I think he'll probably just be a gatekeeper in that division. Too much going in that one for him to really move in now. Never say never though.
Parisyan vs. Burkman
Man I loved this fight. It was pretty one sided, but it was active as hell and both guys were going at it. Parisyan looked real good in there though. I'd like to see a rematch with him and Sanchez to be honest. Probably won't happen right now, but hell it would be fun to watch. He looked great at striking and his takedown defense was great once again.
Liddell vs. Jackson
Finally. That's pretty much all I have to say about this one. I've said before that I get bored with Liddell's fights. A guy chases him and he hits them as they move in. Rampage fought the fight that should be fought against him. Make him come to you. I was shocked as hell it ended so quickly though. Page nailed him with a counter-right and landed several more as Liddell hit the ground.
All in all, this card was MUCH better than I thought it would be. Pretty much all the fights were, if not exciting, quite busy. It made for an entertaining couple of hours I'll tell you that much. Looking forward to what is next too. Shogun vs. Chuck? Page vs. Hendo? Chuck vs. Wanderlei? Lots of potential matchups that could be great fights. Hell, Vera vs. Shogun or Chuck? Now that this Pride merger is more or less done, it's gonna be an amazing time for fans of this.
May 26th, 2007, 11:20 PM #233
May 27th, 2007, 12:06 AM #234
Wow, I'm certainly disappointed.
May 27th, 2007, 02:14 PM #235
I knew it! I predicted a Rampage win via KO and I was right. I just had the wrong round. Less than two minutes? WAR RAMPAGE! I even told my dad to put money on Rampage, but we couldn't find a betting site for MMA.
Even though it is kinda bad to say this, I am glad that Chuck lost. For being the face of MMA in the US, he was overrated and certainly very uncharismatic. The #1 LHW in the world is Shogun Rua, and even as the (former) UFC champ, you would have to make a pretty good argument to make Chuck a top-5.
But this sets up some interesting fights. Hendo/Rampage is going to be awesome (Rampage lost to Wanderlei twice and Hendo beat Wanderlei). Hell, if I were UFC, I would set up a Wanderlei/Chuck fight. Both guys need big wins (Wanderlei has consecutive losses to CroCop and Hendo) and it would be a helluva fight.
PS - Anyone else really ticked off at the crowd booing Rampage after his win? It saddens me that too many cretins are getting into MMA now that it is popular and know nothing about the history and fighters. Chuck may have been the posterboy for UFC, but that doesn't mean they have to get all butt-hurt when he loses. I have heard people saying that Chuck losing is a step backwards for MMA, but I have to strongly disagree. Rampage is a very funny guy even after he went all crazy.
PPS - Listen to Randy Couture. He always picks the winners.
EDIT: Found the better Rampage interview.
Last edited by Roody; May 27th, 2007 at 02:25 PM.
May 27th, 2007, 02:35 PM #236
Lets try not to get all sherdoggy in here ok? I'm a little sick and tired of people saying not to boo the fighters. It's lame to be quite honest. MMA is no different than any other sport in that you have fans of particular teams or individuals. People like a guy, they want him to win. He loses, they're not happy about it. They don't hate Jackson, they just know he beat their guy. So what? Page will be fine and he'll get new fans out of this. It's really getting ridiculous to call people names for booing. Christ, would any of us cheer if the Ducks beat the Kings for the Stanley Cup? It's the hardest trophy in sports to win. . .shouldn't we?
Originally Posted by Roody
May 27th, 2007, 02:50 PM #237
to me this is a sort of negative to how Zuffa runs the UFC now that they've acquired Pride. There are so many fighters, nobody knows who is where and what weight division. You just kind of throw guys out there for a fight, and hope they catch on.
Originally Posted by SmytheKing
I don't blame the UFC-only types for not knowing who Rampage was, but for booing? I'm glad Quinton called them out.
May 27th, 2007, 03:05 PM #238
I would be pissed and disappointed, but would not boo. I respect the game too much to do that.
Originally Posted by SmytheKing
I respect any human being that gets into a cage/ring and makes a living beating the crap out of another person. It is not like 90% of the people there knew who Rampage was. Rampage did nothing to deserve that reaction. All he did was beat Chuck soundly and made an exciting fight. Anyone who boos that is a cretin and should immediately stop watching MMA.
These same fans would probably boo the Sakuraba/Newton fight in Pride because 99% of it was on the ground. However, it is probably the greatest exhibition of grappling I have ever seen and is widely considered one of the greatest fights in MMA history.
May 27th, 2007, 03:19 PM #239
Respectfully disagree. This is the same crowd that started cheering with about 30 seconds left in the Parisyan/Burkman fight even though they were lying on the ground. That fight was exciting, and the crowd showed their approval. The ONLY reason they were booing rampage is because he knocked out their guy. It's THAT simple. Has nothing to do with respect or him being dirty or anything. It's just that the fan favorite got his ass whupped and they didn't like it. Having said that, they weren't booing when he was giving his speech until he called them out for it. He egged them on, they gave him what he wanted. No big deal.
Originally Posted by Roody
May 27th, 2007, 06:51 PM #240
What an upside down PPV. It turned out better than expected and this included me picking one single fight correctly(Karo). After the fact, I'm more shocked that Jardine got his ass handed to him. As for the booing, I'd probably boo Rampage too. I like Chuck and I don't like Rampage, simple as that. Now if only Hendo can beat him down...