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    Got to give props to Randy, but his pro jebus marine crap made we want to puke! (Where are you Bad91?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASUcruz View Post
    Cro Crop is a great fighter but he's been beaten before. Anything can happen in MMA!
    The only "bad" loss Cro-Cop has had was when he was ko'ed by Randleman three years ago. He lost to Hunt via decision (can't knock that bastard out), Fedor via decision and Nog via armbar. There is no one close to that caliber of talent in UFC. Cro Cop will rule until UFC ever signs Nog or Fedor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roody View Post
    The only "bad" loss Cro-Cop has had was when he was ko'ed by Randleman three years ago. He lost to Hunt via decision (can't knock that bastard out), Fedor via decision and Nog via armbar. There is no one close to that caliber of talent in UFC. Cro Cop will rule until UFC ever signs Nog or Fedor.
    Yea, I agree that Crop Cop is by far the best HW in the UFC. That doesn't change the fact that ANYTHING can happen in MMA. Yes, he'll probably destroy Randy, but its not like he's unbeatable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibleedkngs View Post
    I don't see any way Randy can pull a win off against CC. I really doubt he can take CC down and if they stay on their feet thats bad news for Randy. Anything could happen though because Randy does some amazing stuff when everybody writes him off.
    Granted it was Tim, but Randy looked fantastic last night. He was a huge underdog and dominated the fight. Will he beat CC? Probably not but the fight is definately more interesting after his performance last night. No one last week expected Diaz and Henderson to win and they did so yeah, anything can happen.

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    Also thought I'd share this.

    I watch this guy's vids on youtube. Tons of info and good analysis from a passionate fan. Vids can be fairly long but worth watching.

    http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=doliveij

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    Finally got around to watching UFC 68 last night.

    Randy was un-freakin-believable, and like most others, I was glad t see Sylvia lose. He has always bored me to tears. I loved how he immediately blamed the loss on his "back injury," then backpeddled and said he lost fair and square.

    Franklin looked good, and I loved the look on his face at the end of the 2nd when the ref (Herb Dean IIRC) wouldn't stop it. As much as I wanted my fellow Canuck to win, Franklin proved that MacDonald is not quite the contender he's played himself up to be. (I'd love to see a Franklin/Leben fight, just because I love seeing Leben get knocked out!)

    Hughes looked complacent to me. Didn't have that killer instinct I thought he would come out with (that was a sloppy attempt at an armbar). I used to like Hughes until all the trash talking he did of GSP on TUF4, and I really hope he does get a rematch with GSP so he can have his ass kicked again.

    What is the UFC's fascination with Babalu?!?! Granted, I've only seen 3 of his fights, but he's looked horrible in all of them. For someone who supposedly trains pretty hard, he seems to gas really easily, and never seems properly prepared.

    I can't wait for GSP/Sera (though Sera will be beaten badly) and Sanchez/Koscheck (which should be awesome, with Nightmare coming out on top).

    And while I agree that Cro Cop will probably walk all over Randy, I wasn't THAT impressed with his first UFC bout. Granted, he was totally controlling the fight, but he did get a little lucky when his opponent (can't remember the name) backed up into the fence, tripped and put himself on the ground. I admit, however, that that is the only Cro Cop fight I have seen, so maybe it's a bad example to judge him.
    Last edited by OvertimeHero; March 5th, 2007 at 07:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OvertimeHero View Post
    Finally got around to watching UFC 68 last night.

    Randy was un-freakin-believable, and like most others, I was glad t see Sylvia lose. He has always bored me to tears. I loved how he immediately blamed the loss on his "back injury," then backpeddled and said he lost fair and square.
    Yea, no one seems to like Sylvia. This is why I don't think Sylvia is going to be built back up anytime soon. I mean this thread is a very small sample but I think the majority of MMA fans have no love for Tim Sylvia. Look for Andre Arlovski to get a push again now that Sylvia is out of the way(No way the UFC couuld sell Arlovski-Sylvia IV)


    Quote Originally Posted by Overtimehero
    Franklin looked good, and I loved the look on his face at the end of the 2nd when the ref (Herb Dean IIRC) wouldn't stop it. As much as I wanted my fellow Canuck to win, Franklin proved that MacDonald is not quite the contender he's played himself up to be. (I'd love to see a Franklin/Leben fight, just because I love seeing Leben get knocked out!)
    LOL, I'm not a Leben fan either. It was great seeing him get destroyed by Anderson Silva. Chris Leben does not belong in the UFC.

    Quote Originally Posted by Overtimehero
    Hughes looked complacent to me. Didn't have that killer instinct I thought he would come out with (that was a sloppy attempt at an armbar). I used to like Hughes until all the trash talking he did of GSP on TUF4, and I really hope he does get a rematch with GSP so he can have his ass kicked again.
    Let's give some credit to Chris Lytle as well. He fought a tough fight. I agree though, Hughes didn't look as impressive as Rich Franklin. He did score takedowns at will and its evident that he's just flat out stronger than people but I think by the third round he thought to himself that he should play it safe and just grind out the decision.

    Hughes will definitley get a title shot, Dana loves him. BUt I'm not sure if he's more deserving than Diego at this point. If Diego beats Koscheck he should get a title shot. In his post fight interview, Hughes mentioned that if he doesn't get a title shot he doesn't want to sit around and wait he wants another fight. Maybe a Hughes-Karo Parisyan fight. That would be a good one to watch, good clash of styles.

    Quote Originally Posted by Overtimehero
    I can't wait for GSP/Sera (though Sera will be beaten badly) and Sanchez/Koscheck (which should be awesome, with Nightmare coming out on top).
    Agree, anytime GSP fights I'll be watching. Flat out just a stud. Sanchez-Koscheck should be good. Diego will be the favorite but I think Koscheck will be a very live underdog. WHen they fought on the show, Diego could only grind out a split decision despite having a lot more experience than Koscheck who had only been fighting MMA for a few months. Koscheck's wrestling might pound for pound be the best in the UFC and he's training with a good camp(AKA) so I think he'll give Sanchez some trouble.

    Quote Originally Posted by Overtimehero
    And while I agree that Cro Cop will probably walk all over Randy, I wasn't THAT impressed with his first UFC bout. Granted, he was totally controlling the fight, but he did get a little lucky when his opponent (can't remember the name) backed up into the fence, tripped and put himself on the ground. I admit, however, that that is the only Cro Cop fight I have seen, so maybe it's a bad example to judge him.
    It was hard for Cro Cop to look that awesome because Sanchez was scared ****less.

    If you haven't seen much of Cro Cop check out these vids.

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=2A3ox1PhiLE

    http://www.dailymotion.com/visited/s...ide-gp-ow-2006

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASUcruz View Post
    Yea, no one seems to like Sylvia. This is why I don't think Sylvia is going to be built back up anytime soon. I mean this thread is a very small sample but I think the majority of MMA fans have no love for Tim Sylvia. Look for Andre Arlovski to get a push again now that Sylvia is out of the way(No way the UFC couuld sell Arlovski-Sylvia IV)
    I like Arlovski. His last fight was great. Waited for Herb Dean to get outta the way then landed that vicious shot. But I agree, a Arlovski-Syliva iV would be almost an impossible sell.

    Quote Originally Posted by ASUcruz View Post
    LOL, I'm not a Leben fan either. It was great seeing him get destroyed by Anderson Silva. Chris Leben does not belong in the UFC.
    Ever since he was such a whiny b**** on TUF1, I've hated Leben, and I was surprised when the UFC brought him in and tried to push him, considering he lost both fights on TUF.

    Quote Originally Posted by ASUcruz View Post
    Let's give some credit to Chris Lytle as well. He fought a tough fight. I agree though, Hughes didn't look as impressive as Rich Franklin. He did score takedowns at will and its evident that he's just flat out stronger than people but I think by the third round he thought to himself that he should play it safe and just grind out the decision.

    Hughes will definitley get a title shot, Dana loves him. BUt I'm not sure if he's more deserving than Diego at this point. If Diego beats Koscheck he should get a title shot. In his post fight interview, Hughes mentioned that if he doesn't get a title shot he doesn't want to sit around and wait he wants another fight. Maybe a Hughes-Karo Parisyan fight. That would be a good one to watch, good clash of styles.
    I know Dana loves Hughes, but enough is enough. GSP is exactly the kind of guy the UFC should be pushing. I know Matt deserves a rematch because he was champion for 5 years, but hopefully he gets beat again and the UFC can move forward instead of holding onto the past.

    And oh yeah, props to Lytle. He did a great job of hanging in there.

    Quote Originally Posted by ASUcruz View Post
    Agree, anytime GSP fights I'll be watching. Flat out just a stud. Sanchez-Koscheck should be good. Diego will be the favorite but I think Koscheck will be a very live underdog. WHen they fought on the show, Diego could only grind out a split decision despite having a lot more experience than Koscheck who had only been fighting MMA for a few months. Koscheck's wrestling might pound for pound be the best in the UFC and he's training with a good camp(AKA) so I think he'll give Sanchez some trouble.
    Agreed. I still think Sanchez will come out on top, but I could easily see it going to a decision.

    Quote Originally Posted by ASUcruz View Post
    It was hard for Cro Cop to look that awesome because Sanchez was scared ****less.

    If you haven't seen much of Cro Cop check out these vids.

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=2A3ox1PhiLE

    http://www.dailymotion.com/visited/s...ide-gp-ow-2006
    Thanks, I'll check them out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OvertimeHero View Post
    I like Arlovski. His last fight was great. Waited for Herb Dean to get outta the way then landed that vicious shot. But I agree, a Arlovski-Syliva iV would be almost an impossible sell.
    Yea, Arlovski was a fan favorite. With Sylvia out of the way he should start to get into the spotlight again. If he keeps winning, I'm sure he'll get the winner of Cro-Cop Vs. Couture. Either matchup works, because Arlovski will want to keep the fight standing. I'd like to see him fight Cro-Cop, Arlovski will be a heavy underdog but he'll make the fight exciting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Overtime
    Ever since he was such a whiny b**** on TUF1, I've hated Leben, and I was surprised when the UFC brought him in and tried to push him, considering he lost both fights on TUF.
    Yea, a lot of guys from the TUF1 got jobs. Their cheap and fans know who they are so they made for sellable fights. Once again, UFC is all about the money. Leben actually had a pretty strong fan base for some reason, probably because everyone liked seeing what he did when he was drunk. Anyways, he'll probably hang around the UFC and get beat up, more likely he'll go to the WEC.

    Quote Originally Posted by overtime
    I know Dana loves Hughes, but enough is enough. GSP is exactly the kind of guy the UFC should be pushing. I know Matt deserves a rematch because he was champion for 5 years, but hopefully he gets beat again and the UFC can move forward instead of holding onto the past.
    Right, I don't mind Hughes, I definitley respect him as a fighter but I don't want him to get a title shot right away. Let GSP fight Serra then Diego(if he wins). I'm all for a rematch with GSP and Hughes but GSP deserves to defend his title against some other people. GSP should beat Serra then put GSP against Diego provided he wins in Vegas. On that same show have Hughes fight Karo which would make for a good fight. If GSP and Hughes win, have GSP-Hughes III in Montreal. By that time, the UFC will have figured out a way to get into Canada.


    Quote Originally Posted by overtimehero
    Agreed. I still think Sanchez will come out on top, but I could easily see it going to a decision.
    I definitley see a decision. Diego's stand up has improved and he'll have something to prove. Koscheck is the same way, they'll both trade but as soon as Koscheck gets in trouble he'll take the fight to the ground. We'll probably get a ground war for a few rounds and whoever imposes their will the most on the ground will win.

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    this is why I'm miffed Vera is on his way out, because adding another HW to the mix would be something

    He's rolled with Randy. He'd be a good match for either AA or CroCop, and I think he'd dominate Tim as well

    Instead we're going to get AA, Sylvia and probably CroCop in a love triangle unless Liddell moves up in weight

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