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    Bisping interview
    http://www.letsgokings.com/bbs/newre...ote=1&p=917552


    UFCjunkie.com: Youíll be fighting Matt Hamill Saturday at UFC 75. In the past, after Hamill had went to the media campaigning for the fight, you mentioned that fighting him would be a step backward in your career. So how did the fight come about?
    Michael Bisping: Like you mentioned, he did call me out. Look, I can understand why the UFC wanted this fight. A lot of people watch the show and want to see us fight. Itís the fight the fans want, so thatís good enough for me. Yeah, I didnít want it at first. I wanted to put the whole ďUltimate FighterĒ thing behind me and move on with my career in the UFC. But the fightís booked. I look forward to going out there and shutting him up and putting on a good show.

    UFCjunkie.com: Hamill was portrayed as a bit of a sympathetic character on the show. Was that an accurate portrayal?
    Michael Bisping: No, no (it isnít). They portrayed him as this big gullible, bloody puppy-eyed deaf kid, but that wasnít the case at all. The guyís an *******, for lack of a better word. He came on the show for the wrong reasons. Heís a bit of a bully. He didnít respect anyone. When itís universal that every guy who meant him thought he was an *******, well, heís got to be an *******. Youíd think someone ó at least one person ó would like you, but no one in the house except for his buddy Danny (Abbadi) did.

    UFCjunkie.com: Were they really that tight on the show?
    Michael Bisping: Maybe there was a little man-love going on. (laughs) Seriously, you could see the connection. There was some electricity there. But whatever. Itís 2007. Iím all for gays. More power to them. (laughs) But honestly, they did portray (Matt) as a bit of a teddy bear, and that wasnít the case at all.

    UFCjunkie.com: I was at UFC 68 and saw Hamillís win over Rex Holman. It was a solid victory, but it was almost like Hamill wanted to keep it on his feet to prove something. A few people have called it ďsloppy.Ē Do you think heís overconfident in those non-wrestling aspects of his game?
    Michael Bisping: Absolutely. Iíve said it before. They guy really is an overconfident ego-maniac. I completely respect the guy for what heís overcome. Heís done well for himself given what lifeís dealt him. But heís not what I would call a mixed-martial artist. Obviously, heís got to improve his striking and jiu-jitsu. But I hope he did. I hope he comes out trying to prove a point. But he doesnít really have any style with his strategy.

    UFCjunkie.com: I know itís hard to predict fight outcomes, but what can fans expect Saturday?
    Michael Bisping: I think itís going to be an exciting fight. If youíve seen Hamill, you see that he comes out hard and ready to fight. He doesnít like me. That goes back a while, so Iím sure heís training his ass off. For me, I always look to finish a fight from the start. Weíre going to war, and someoneís going to get stopped. OK, heís going to get stopped. All he can really do is take me down, but he canít finish me from there. He doesnít really have any ground and pound or anything like that. I donít like to make predictions, but thereís a reason most of my fights finish by knockout.

    UFCjunkie.com: Tito Ortiz was your coach on ďThe Ultimate Fighter 3.Ē Do you still see or talk to him much?
    Michael Bisping: No, not really. He lives in California, and I live in Manchester, so we donít really bump into each other too much. (laughs) Me and Tito get along all right. We say hi when we see each other and exchange pleasantries, but thatís about all, to be honest.

    UFCjunkie.com: Looking back to your time on the show, how would you rate him as a coach?
    Michael Bisping: I canít bad-mouth his coaching abilities on the show. He did a good job. You canít deny it. He brought in Saul Soliz (kickboxing coach) and Dean Lister (Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu coach), who are both world-class in their own rights. Saulís a fantastic coach, Tito showed us wrestling things and takedown defense, and Dean Lister showed us some great stuff on the floor. So as a whole of a team, it was very, very good.

    UFCjunkie.com: Well, youíre both light heavyweights. If they offered you a fight against Tito, is that something you would take?
    Michael Bisping: Of course. Iíd be fóng happy to sock his big basketball head all over the Octagon. (laughs) Iím only joking. Youíre going to quote me on that, arenít you?

    UFCjunkie.com: Who? Me?
    Michael Bisping: Honestly, Iíve got a lot of respect for Tito. Heís a five-time world champion or something like that. Iíll fight anyone the UFC puts in front of me. I know thatís a bit of a boring answer, but thatís the way it is. Whatever comes my way, so be it.

    UFCjunkie.com: Is there any fighter whoís off limits as an opponent ó whether for personal reasons or because theyíre training partners?
    Michael Bisping: No, not really. Iím still taking my time. Iím not ready for a title fight or anything like that. Itís only my fourth UFC fight, you know? I just want to keep learning, progressing and maturing.

    UFCjunkie.com: Thereís been talk of a possible U.K. version of ďThe Ultimate Fighter.Ē Is that something youíd be interested in being a part of?
    Michael Bisping: Oh yeah, of course. Sign me up. Iíd love to be a coach or whatever. Thatíd be great.

    UFCjunkie.com: So, specifically, youíd be interested in being a coach ó and not just some type of host or assistant?
    Michael Bisping: Absolutely. A lot of the guys came back from the show and said they hated it and would never do anything like that again. I loved it. It was one of the best experiences of my life. It changed my life. Usually, the guys who donít like it are the ones who donít make it very far. The guys who are there to the end usually love it.

    UFCjunkie.com: Do you prefer fighting in the U.K. rather than the U.S. or somewhere else?
    Michael Bisping: It doesnít really matter to me. Iíve had good experiences wherever I fight. I will say that the crowd in Manchester (at UFC 70) was amazing, and I expect London to be the same. But the crowd was pretty amazing when I fought in the States too. Saturday will be at a great venue. But Iím pretty sure my next fight will be in the U.S. Iím excited about it.

    UFCjunkie.com: As Iím sure youíre well aware, thereís been some criticism that the UFC has babied you in your early career. What would you say to fans who have that gripe?
    Michael Bisping: Do you feel that way?

    UFCjunkie.com: Iím talking about a lot of fans ó vocal fans. Even a lot of UFCjunkie.com readers.
    Michael Bisping: But you personally? Do you think that?

    UFCjunkie.com: Not necessarily. Well, to an extent, I guess. But no more so than any other young fighter. The UFC needs a deliberate plan for their investments, so I understand not rushing you guys. And Iím not just talking about you guys who win the reality show.
    Michael Bisping: Well, here it is. For one, I only fight who the UFC puts in front of me. My first fight after winning the contract was Eric Schaffer, who was 9-1. He finished every win with a first-round submission. Heís a tough guy. I wouldnít call that a baby fight. His first fight in the UFC, and he chokes a guy out cold in two-and-a-half minutes. Thatís no gimme. As for Elvis Sinosic, he doesnít have the best record, but heís fought many of the best guys in the world. That fight came about because his last fight was in Cage Rage in England, and he knocked out a guy called Mike Epstein, who was well known in England. So that fight kind of made sense in England. I had beat (Epstein) and so had Elvis, so I think it was a good bit of match-making on the UFCís part.

    UFCjunkie.com: And Hamill?
    Michael Bisping: Well, he screamed, shouted and babied to get the fight. And heís still undefeated. You canít keep the fans happy. Well, I shouldnít say fans. The Internet keyboard warriors, you can never please them. Theyíll always have something to complain about.

    UFCjunkie.com: I know youíre training a lot in Big Bear with Quinton Jackson. Have you thought about making the U.S. your permanent home?
    Michael Bisping: I think about it a lot. I love the States. I love the lifestyle. Itís a possibility. You get a lot for your money here. Ideally, Iíd like to do half and half ó half my time here and half my time in England. I get great training in both places.

    UFCjunkie.com: How about a title shot? You mentioned that earlier.
    Michael Bisping: Yeah, you know, when you get to the title, thereís only one place to go. And itís down. Itís true. Everyone wants a piece of you. I want to be there some day. I only have two (UFC) fights under my belt since winning (the contract), and Iím still learning. I donít want to be there yet. Maybe next year. Thatís what I want. I think Iíll achieve that goal eventually.

    UFCjunkie.com: So is it a fight-by-fight re-evaluation thing?
    Michael Bisping: Exactly. My ambition is to stay undefeated, and if I do that, the title shot will come soon enough.
    Also Sherdog had a video interview as well

    http://www.sherdog.com/videos/videos.asp?v_id=1253

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    Let's get some predictions out of the way. I'll post up my reasoning later.

    Rampage Vs. Henderson
    Cro Cop Vs. Kongo
    Bisping Vs. Hamill
    Alexander Vs. Sakara

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASUcruz View Post
    Let's get some predictions out of the way. I'll post up my reasoning later.

    Rampage Vs. Henderson
    Cro Cop Vs. Kongo
    Bisping Vs. Hamill
    Alexander Vs. Sakara
    I'm hoping Henderson loses, if for no other reason that he moves down to 185 and takes that belt in a unification match.

    I can't behind Bisping. Even in that interview he just whines and bitches too much for my liking. If you're going to say "I fight the guys the UFC puts in front of me and I'm not ready for a title shot" then bitch and moan when you get the guy who you should have been fighting on your reality show...

    Kongo is +280. That's screaming for a bet. I know CroCop has to win this for the money fight (assuming Fedor doesn't come in). Kongo is exactly the kind of guy CroCop could have trouble with, that is if Kongo brings half a tank with him as he gasses early.

    I don't like the odds on Houston Alexander either. I'm not sold on him yet. Sakara/Alexander will be a lot like McFedries/Alexander.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crapgame13 View Post
    I'm hoping Henderson loses, if for no other reason that he moves down to 185 and takes that belt in a unification match.
    I like both guys but since Henderson is an ASU guy I'll root for him. I'll agree with you though, I'd love for him to fight at 185. LHW is already pretty stacked and the MW division could really use Hendo.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crapgame13
    I can't behind Bisping. Even in that interview he just whines and bitches too much for my liking. If you're going to say "I fight the guys the UFC puts in front of me and I'm not ready for a title shot" then bitch and moan when you get the guy who you should have been fighting on your reality show...
    I like Bisping, I thought he was pretty funny in that interview. Difference of opinion I guess. I think he's alright.
    Quote Originally Posted by Crapgame13
    Kongo is +280. That's screaming for a bet. I know CroCop has to win this for the money fight (assuming Fedor doesn't come in). Kongo is exactly the kind of guy CroCop could have trouble with, that is if Kongo brings half a tank with him as he gasses early.
    It's a good value bet but I don't like Kongo's chances.

    Curious to hear why you think Kongo is the type of fighter that could give Cro Cop trouble. For me, Kongo is tailor made for Cro Cop. They both do the same things except Cro Cop is a far superior striker. Much, much better kicks and I think he's better on the feet. CroCop has some sort of ground and pound to his game while Kongo is worthless on the mat. So that's one thing CroCop does't have to worry about. I think the guys that give CroCop trouble are ground guys with solid stand up skills(Big Nog and Fedor).

    Plus this is a huge step up in competition for Kongo. He's never faced a HW anywhere near the caliber of CroCop.
    Quote Originally Posted by Crapgame13
    I don't like the odds on Houston Alexander either. I'm not sold on him yet. Sakara/Alexander will be a lot like McFedries/Alexander.
    We have have no idea what Alexander's ground skills are. Meanwhile Sakara has a good reputation on the ground. The site I use had him at +155. So I put down some money on him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASUcruz View Post
    ICurious to hear why you think Kongo is the type of fighter that could give Cro Cop trouble. For me, Kongo is tailor made for Cro Cop. They both do the same things except Cro Cop is a far superior striker. Much, much better kicks and I think he's better on the feet
    I'm not giving Kongo as much credit as you may take that statement, it's deceptive

    The thing about strikers is they all think they can take the other's strike. See Leben/Spider Silva.

    I think Kongo is going hang back (a hunch) and wait for Mirko to push and use his knees on the inside if he can when Cro Cop comes in.

    Kongo isn't a fight professor but the fights I've seen he counters very aggressiveness deceptively well

    I think it all depends on how aggressive Cro Cop is. With aggressive guys like Coleman or Silva, Cro Cop uses that. When CroCop is the one pushing the action, weird crazy things tend to happen that shouldn't.
    Last edited by Crapgame13; September 6th, 2007 at 08:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crapgame13 View Post
    I'm not giving Kongo as much credit as you may take that statement, it's deceptive
    Ah ok. I definitely did thing about putting some money on Kongo, I just don't think he's going to win.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crapgame13
    The thing about strikers is they all think they can take the other's strike. See Leben/Spider Silva.
    Perhaps, I mean part of that is Leben just being a complete moron and letting Anderson knee the **** out of him.
    Quote Originally Posted by Crapgame13
    I think Kongo is going hang back (a hunch) and wait for Mirko to push and use his knees on the inside if he can when Cro Cop comes in.
    Maybe, Kongo hanging back also leaves him in perfect distance of Cro Cop's head kick though. I think the best part of Kongo's game is his muay thai. Really good knees, etc. If Cro Cop knows this he'll be smart to keep Kongo on the distance and just kick box with him. Kongo will probably have to force the issue and tie up Cro Cop, but trying to do that leaves him exposed to all those strikes. We'll see, I think it'll be a very exciting match. Possible fight of the night.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crapgame13
    Kongo isn't a fight professor but the fights I've seen he counters very aggressiveness deceptively well
    A good thing for Kongo is he was training with Rampage up in Big Bear, more importantly he was able to work with Juanito Ibarra, Rampage's trainer who is an excellent game planner. I don't know if if Juanito will corner Kongo, but just working him is a big bonus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASUcruz View Post
    Let's get some predictions out of the way. I'll post up my reasoning later.

    Rampage Vs. Henderson
    Cro Cop Vs. Kongo
    Bisping Vs. Hamill
    Alexander Vs. Sakara
    Ok here's some reasoning.

    I went back on Rampage and Henderson for awhile. Henderson is such a tough guy(never been knocked out) and all those Team Quest and even ex Team Quest guys seem to come up with really good game plans(Randy, Hendo, Lindland, etc). Henderson's Greco is good so I think that even though Rampage is the bigger man, Henderson won't be overpowered too much in the clinch.

    That being said, I think Rampage is too athletic, too powerful, and too explosive for Henderson. I think his striking is better and more well rounded. Hendo has a great right hand but that's really all he has. Rampage is the better pure boxer and I think his hand speed is better. Against Matt Lindland, a better wrestler than Hendo, Rampage did fairly well in the wrestling department. I think he took Lindland down 3 or 4 times. I think if Rampage slams Henderson he'll be in a lot of trouble. He'll have a hard time getting off his back against 'Page because 'Page is so big.

    I'll go with Rampage via TKO in the 4th round.

    For Cro Cop and Kongo I've already revealed some of my thinking in my discussion with Crapgame. I think Cro Cop and Kongo are very similar fighers but Cro Cop is far superior to Kongo is every aspect of what they do.

    The big thing for me is the step up in competition. Kongo was facing some weak competition there and looking good. He then fought a pure wrestler in Carmelo Marerro and got dominated. Well not dominated but once he got taken down he couldn't get back up.

    I think Cro Cop is just too good for Kongo, Kongo has a stikers chance but I think he gets stopped early. Cro Cop wins via head kick in the 2nd round.

    In Bisping and Hamill, I think Bisping just has more skills. From what we've seen of Hamill, he's still very much one dimensional. I'm assuming he's improved his skills but Bisping has too. Hamill had so many disciplines to learn, striking, BJJ, even ground and pound seeing as he was just a pure wrestler. On the other hand Bisping already had some very good skills in multiple disciplines, good stirker, really good BJJ, and pretty good ground and pound.

    I think Hamill will be able to take Bisping down, but Bisping has really good submissions. Both guys seem to always be in good shape so I think it'll be a longer fight. I'll say Bisping via decision in the third round.

    With Alexander and Sakara, the big thing for me is Alexander is a virtual unknown on the ground. If Sakara takes him down I think he'll submit him. We'll see, Alexander definitely has power!

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    Falling asleep but 1st PPV Impressions:

    Good overall event with just about all you could ask for in a title fight. Hamil was absolutely robbed. I don't see how you can give Bisping the win where he was taken down repeatedly and took more standup dmg throughout the course of the fight. Once again CroCop looks like he doesn't care and appears his career is over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lagwagon0 View Post
    Falling asleep but 1st PPV Impressions:

    Good overall event with just about all you could ask for in a title fight. Hamil was absolutely robbed. I don't see how you can give Bisping the win where he was taken down repeatedly and took more standup dmg throughout the course of the fight. Once again CroCop looks like he doesn't care and appears his career is over.
    I agree about the Hamil fight, he should've won, but I guess being in London played a significant role for who won because it's Bisping's hometown. I guess Bisping had to get knocked out or submissioned for him to lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lagwagon0 View Post
    Falling asleep but 1st PPV Impressions:

    Good overall event with just about all you could ask for in a title fight. Hamil was absolutely robbed. I don't see how you can give Bisping the win where he was taken down repeatedly and took more standup dmg throughout the course of the fight. Once again CroCop looks like he doesn't care and appears his career is over.
    An even bigger concern (at least I think it will be) is what this does for the Fedor talks. The more ex-Pride guys struggle in the HW division like Cro-Cop and Nog have, the less likely Dana will be to hand over the farm to Fedor and his group. I really see that happening. If you're White or the Fertitta's, when you see the (former) #2 heavyweight in the world getting ruined by your "no ones", do you really want to give in to every demand the #1 guy is making?

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