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    Unfortunately, freaks show fights are the one thing I do not like about Pride. Too many worthless heavyweight cans. I do love the fact that Pride has most top notch fighters in the world. The one other thing that bothers me about Pride is Phil Baroni. I remember watching Baroni get his ass handed to him by Pete Sell!!!!!, and yet hes treated like some stud in Pride after winning a few fights over some Japanese lugheads. Blows my friggin mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lagwagon0 View Post
    Unfortunately, freaks show fights are the one thing I do not like about Pride. Too many worthless heavyweight cans. I do love the fact that Pride has most top notch fighters in the world. The one other thing that bothers me about Pride is Phil Baroni. I remember watching Baroni get his ass handed to him by Pete Sell!!!!!, and yet hes treated like some stud in Pride after winning a few fights over some Japanese lugheads. Blows my friggin mind.
    Yea, Baroni is an idiot although I hope he kicks Frank Shamrock's ass when they fight soon.

    My problem with Pride is the lack of title fights. This was brought up when we talked about Diaz and Gomi. It's really weak that Gomi lost to Diaz and still has the belt. This has happend before when Gomi lost to Marcus Aurelio. If your the title holder there is absolutley no reason why you should be fighting NON title fights.

    They did the same thing with Wanderlei as well.

    I agree with you lag, the freak show fights do nothing for me. I think it cheapens the sport personally.

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    By the way, Diaz tested positive for weed.

    http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles.asp?n_id=6902

    He's already supsended from fighting in the US because of his broken orbital. Anyways, I don't think its a big deal because his rematch with Gomi will undoubtedly be in Japan.

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    I changed the title of the thread from MMA to MMA/Boxing. Only because I'm a huge boxing fan as well and wanted to put boxing related stuff in a thread that's already getting a lot of views.

    Hopefully there are other big fans of the sweet science around these parts.

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    ASU, what are your thoughts on the fact that Hughes (and to a lesser extent, Franklin) was given an easy comeback fight, and now apparently gets a rematch for the title. Why is it that 1 fight suddenly makes someone the #1 contender again? In the welterweight division, I would think the winner of the Koscheck / Sanchez fight deserves a shot more than Hughes. For Middleweights, Mike Swick has been doing pretty well, how about a shot for him? But at least Franklin was given a fairly good opponent. MacDonald had gotten a couple of good victories in. But Lytle? His UFC record was 2-5 going in. Hardly the thoughest opponent for Hughes. Granted, he had a good effort, but that victory was given to Hughes on a silver platter, and now he's going to get to fight Georges again? Come on.

    All this is a result to your thought that the UFC won't build Sylvia up again. But if Hughes and Franklin get that luxury, why not Sylvia (not that I want it). Thoughts?
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    I'm going to break up your post's different points and try and answer them individually. Hopefully it works out.

    Quote Originally Posted by OvertimeHero View Post
    ASU, what are your thoughts on the fact that Hughes (and to a lesser extent, Franklin) was given an easy comeback fight, and now apparently gets a rematch for the title. Why is it that 1 fight suddenly makes someone the #1 contender again?
    All this is a result to your thought that the UFC won't build Sylvia up again. But if Hughes and Franklin get that luxury, why not Sylvia (not that I want it). Thoughts?
    The first thing to keep in mind is that Dana White and the UFC are all about dollars. Which to be fair is understandable. I don't mind Matt Hughes and Rich Franklin being thrown back into the title picture immediantly because they were both good champions over the course of a few years. It also makes sense for the UFC to showcase them against weaker opponents so that the fans realize that both guys are back. Keep in mind that both guys are very popular fighters unlike Tim Sylvia. Which is why they get the luxury of getting back into the title picture so quickly.

    Is it fair? Probably not, but Hughes and Franklin did a lot for the UFC so they get better treatment.


    Quote Originally Posted by overtime
    In the welterweight division, I would think the winner of the Koscheck / Sanchez fight deserves a shot more than Hughes.
    I partially agree here. Diego certainly deserves a title shot especially if he beats Koscheck. But Koscheck probably isn't one fight away from a title shot like Diego. He's probably a step down the ladder from Diego since he's not undefeated and hasn't been too impressive in some of his bouts.

    Quote Originally Posted by overtime
    For Middleweights, Mike Swick has been doing pretty well, how about a shot for him? But at least Franklin was given a fairly good opponent. MacDonald had gotten a couple of good victories in. But Lytle? His UFC record was 2-5 going in. Hardly the thoughest opponent for Hughes. Granted, he had a good effort, but that victory was given to Hughes on a silver platter, and now he's going to get to fight Georges again? Come on.
    Another thing to keep in mind is that the MW division in the UFC is a lot less deep in talent than the WWs. Swick has been fighting well, he's slated to fight Okami at one of the next PPVs which will be a war. The winner of that fight will get a title shot I think.

    Yea, the UFC gave Hughes and even Franklin(MacDonald's style was perfect for him) easy opponents. But its all about the bottom line. A GSP-Hughes III and Silva-Franklin II sell a lot more PPVs than GSP-Diego and Silva-Swick at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASUcruz View Post
    By the way, Diaz tested positive for weed.

    http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles.asp?n_id=6902

    He's already supsended from fighting in the US because of his broken orbital. Anyways, I don't think its a big deal because his rematch with Gomi will undoubtedly be in Japan.
    Doesn't matter, they could potentially rule the bout a no contest and Diaz could be in breach of contract

    meaning he adds to the bad boy mystique, but also to his tendency to be a moron

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    Hilarious clip of the Iceman

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=huKeNWggSPA

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    Dana White interview on CBS Sportsline. Very informative.

    Part I

    http://cbs.sportsline.com/boxing/story/10050453

    Part II

    http://cbs.sportsline.com/boxing/story/10050687

    Here are the key things I took from it.

    Q: Who is next in line for a shot at Anderson Silva's middleweight title?

    DW: Anderson Silva will probably fight Nate Marquardt next.
    This is an interesting fight. Marquardt's fights haven't been on TV lately but he's a very impressie grappler and he comes from a good camp(Greg Jackson's) If he can take Silva down, he can win this fight as I think he's a lot better on the ground that Lutter. This will be a good fight, good clash of styles.

    Also, seeing that Rich had an easy time with MacDonald, I'd bet that he'd want to fight again to keep sharp. I'd bet that the UFC will feed Franklin another can so they can keep him the #1 contender for Silva/Marquardt. But, I think a Frankin-Swick fight would be great.

    Q: After the Georges St. Pierre vs. Matt Serra welterweight title fight at UFC 69, is Matt Hughes next in line for a title shot?

    DW: I would have to say yes
    Well, I'd guess that Diego gets the winner of GSP-Hughes.

    Q: Is UFC 70 definitely going to be on Spike, or might it be on a different network?

    DW: It's probably going to be on Spike.
    This is huge. Cro Cop, Arlovski, Griffin, and Bisping all on free TV. I'll give major props to the UFC if they go through with this.

    Q: Has an opponent for Tito at UFC 71 been decided?

    DW: We are. We are talking about Rashad Evans right now.
    Glad to see the UFC giving Evans a shot at a big time name. I think he'll beat Tito.

    Q: What's the latest on Sean Sherk's status?

    DW: He's recovering well, and we should see him back soon.
    Good, I really like Sean Sherk's style. Great ground and pound and quality stand up. Big time slams too especially at 155. Sherk-Franca will be a war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASUcruz View Post
    Q: Is UFC 70 definitely going to be on Spike, or might it be on a different network?

    DW: It's probably going to be on Spike.
    This is huge. Cro Cop, Arlovski, Griffin, and Bisping all on free TV. I'll give major props to the UFC if they go through with this.
    Nice to hear that 70 will be free, but I'm also disappointed to hear that they still haven't been able to finalize the HBO deal. I was hoping 70 would be the first for UFC on HBO.

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