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    Quote Originally Posted by Crapgame13 View Post
    Soko v. Machida at UFC 79

    sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
    Yea, great contrast of styles to. Machida likes to lose the fight down and Soko likes to push the fight.

    We get to see if both guys are for real.

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    That Kimbo dude is one scary looking mofo. Looks like some 'OG' gangster down in the hood. But yeah, Cantrell did go down quick. In slow mo, Kimbo's elbow strike didn't even connect.

    Kimbo does have a devastating upperhook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Claw21 View Post
    That Kimbo dude is one scary looking mofo. Looks like some 'OG' gangster down in the hood. But yeah, Cantrell did go down quick. In slow mo, Kimbo's elbow strike didn't even connect.

    Kimbo does have a devastating upperhook.
    Yea, Kimbo might be the best marketing tool EliteXC has.

    Youtube him, he's a legend in street fighting.

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    So my big question from UFC 78 this weekend: Where the hell was Big John???

    Evans / Bisping: I watched this late last night, so maybe I wasn't paying full attention, but I'm not sure how this was a split. Evans got lots of takedowns and landed more strikes IMO. Overall though, not a very exciting fight. I won't be surprised if Bisping drops down after this.

    Alexander / Silva: Good bout. Unfortunately, Houston has no ground game whatsoever, and it cost him. I did like how Houston practically choke-slammed Silva though. Regardless, he'll be back. He's always entertaining and pushes the pace really well, which Dana loves.

    Parisyan / Chonan: not the most exciting of fights, and Karo went to another decision. Chonan can definitely take a punch though. Karo's inability to finish is what is keeping him from the title shot.

    Herman / Doerksen: is it just me or does Herman have little to no gas in the tank at all times. It seems to me that everytime I watch him, he's practically done 2 mins into the 1st round. I thought he was done when Doerkson had that armbar/triangle on at the end of the 2nd. But nice job by Herman to fight through it and come back with the KO.

    Fisher / Edgar: Fisher just didn't seem to have the same fire he normally does. Needs to work on his takedown defence.

    Lauzon / Reinhardt: sweet transition to the back followed by RNC by J-Lau. Training with BJ is definitely paying off for this kid.

    One thing I noticed, and maybe it was just me, but the refs they had seemed to want the fighters to push the pace a little more than the usual refs do. I noticed specifically in the Alexander/Silva fight and a couple times in the Evans/Bisping fight that they seemed to get stood up or brought off the cage a little quicker than normal, which I liked. Maybe it was just me though.
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    Anderson Silva vs. Dan Henderson Announced for UFC 82!!!!!

    http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=10025

    This should be a great fight!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OvertimeHero View Post
    Anderson Silva vs. Dan Henderson Announced for UFC 82!!!!!

    http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=10025

    This should be a great fight!
    YES!

    This is what we've all been waiting for.

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    Good recap OH, I'll add my thoughts.

    Quote Originally Posted by OvertimeHero View Post
    So my big question from UFC 78 this weekend: Where the hell was Big John???
    Good question, none of the UFC "regulars" were their it seemed. I don't remember seeing Dean, Yamasaki, Mazzegahti, etc. My guess is that since NJ has had MMA sanctioned for a long time they might have their own refs they are comfortable with using. As opposed to let's say Ohio where MMA is relatively new and they don't have properly trained guys yet.
    Quote Originally Posted by OvertimeHero
    Evans / Bisping: I watched this late last night, so maybe I wasn't paying full attention, but I'm not sure how this was a split. Evans got lots of takedowns and landed more strikes IMO. Overall though, not a very exciting fight. I won't be surprised if Bisping drops down after this.
    Yea, I thought it was a close but should have been a unanimous decision. Credit to Bisping for stopping a lot of Rashad's takedowns but he didn't stop them all. And standing, the exchanges were for the most part even. Bisping would land some knees and Rashad landing some nice 1-2s, but no one was really hurt standing.

    Rashad didn't do all that much damage on top, but Bisping didn't go for any submissions and didn't really have an active guard. He might have won round 2 but that was the round where Rashad had the huge slam so that might negate some standup and the takedown he had at the end.

    I was very surprised at how quickly Rashad gassed. He looked dead tired in the second and we've never really seen that. I think it's because he made a conscious effort to come into this fight bigger. You could tell, especially in the arms that Rashad was a bit bulkier. So he probably had to cut more weight than he was used to.

    Anyways, for Rashad, I think he should fight Forrest next. No one really deserves a title shot at LHW since everyone has lost to each other. And anyways Rampage is out until spring time with an injury so that buys the UFC some time. How about, Forrest-Rashad and Jardine vs the winner of Machida-Sokoudjou

    I think Bisping should go down to 185. It looks like he can make the weight and he'll be one of the bigger guys there. He might as well, Rashad didn't bully him too much but he did get taken down and Rashad isn't a big 205 pounder by any means. I think Bisping would get killed by any solid 205 guy, like Tito. I think Tito would just smoke Bisping.

    Quote Originally Posted by OvertimeHero
    Alexander / Silva: Good bout. Unfortunately, Houston has no ground game whatsoever, and it cost him. I did like how Houston practically choke-slammed Silva though. Regardless, he'll be back. He's always entertaining and pushes the pace really well, which Dana loves.
    Houston got exposed in a BIG way. Houston does usually push the pace but he didn't in this fight. Not sure why, but once the fight hit the floor, Alexander was ****ed. He is entertaining but he's pretty old, at 35 years of age, how much ground game can he learn? I see him being a future gamekeeper, albeit one you can always have on the PPV card because he is usually exciting.

    Regarding Silva, he's a young guy so the UFC can take their time with him. Maybe give him the loser of that Machida-Soko fight.
    Quote Originally Posted by OvertimeHero
    Parisyan / Chonan: not the most exciting of fights, and Karo went to another decision. Chonan can definitely take a punch though. Karo's inability to finish is what is keeping him from the title shot.
    Not an exciting fight at all. Your right OH, Karo's lack of finishing is preventing him that title shot. Everyone was saying(including Karo on the beatdown) that he would get a title shot if he won. Can't see that happening though. What about Karo-Fitch. I'd love to see that fight. Maybe on the same card as GSP-Hughes/Serra, That will be a true number one contender's match.

    I think Chonan looked decent in his UFC debut. He didn't get dominated by any means and avoided getting judo thrown by Karo, no easy fight. I'd like to see a Chonan-Koscheck match. But maybe Koscheck gets the loser of Serra/Hughes. Chonan maybe gets a lesser guy, like a Drew Fickett type.


    Quote Originally Posted by OvertimeHero
    Herman / Doerksen: is it just me or does Herman have little to no gas in the tank at all times. It seems to me that everytime I watch him, he's practically done 2 mins into the 1st round. I thought he was done when Doerkson had that armbar/triangle on at the end of the 2nd. But nice job by Herman to fight through it and come back with the KO.
    Yea, nice KO by Herman but he didn't look great by any means. He would have lost at the end of the second if Doerksen had 20 more seconds. He won though so he'll move up. How about a rematch with Kendall Grove who is coming off a lose. Their first fight was awesome, let them do it again. If not, let Herman fight Patrick Cote.


    Quote Originally Posted by OvertimeHero
    Fisher / Edgar: Fisher just didn't seem to have the same fire he normally does. Needs to work on his takedown defence.
    Really disappointed in this fight. Fisher's lack of wrestling was horribly exposed by Frankie Edgar who looked awesome. Not only did he take down Fisher at will, he smoked him on the ground. Fisher has pretty solid BJJ and he couldn't come up with anything. And Edgar just rained down punched and elbows. Dominating effort by Edgar. Give him the winner of Huerta-Guida. Or even Kenny Florian, man I love this light weight division.

    Fisher, maybe Joe Lauzon?

    [quoteOvertimeHero]Lauzon / Reinhardt: sweet transition to the back followed by RNC by J-Lau. Training with BJ is definitely paying off for this kid.[/quote]

    Yea, Lauzon did what he had to do but there's no way he should have been fighting this guy. I guess it was a showcase fight but it was pretty much a waste of time. Lauzon just tooled this can. Give him somebody challenging. Maybe Spencer Fisher(also Jens' buddy so he'd want some revenge) or even like a Din Thomas(if he can avoid going to jail!)

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    Yeah, one of the most boring cards ever

    but, the refs...were awesome, I don't know if they were state sanctioned or not, or if they were doing other bouts (Strikeforce, etc.) but Dana should hire them. Really quick to stand guys up, etc.

    that being said, this is the second "main event" Bisping has bored the piss out of me. Rashad has no finishing power on the ground. Bisping can't handle wrestlers overall though he did have a couple of nice sprawls

    December's card is awesome just for the top 3 fights (Serra/Hughes, Iceman/Wanderlei, Soko/Machida)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crapgame13 View Post
    but, the refs...were awesome, I don't know if they were state sanctioned or not, or if they were doing other bouts (Strikeforce, etc.) but Dana should hire them. Really quick to stand guys up, etc.
    Dana White has no say in who refs the bouts. The athletic commission of each state does. Dana can ask refs not to work certain matches, for example he has asked Big John not to ref other organizations because he's kind of been branded the UFC ref)

    But Dana has no say in who refs what fight. So he can't "hire" anybody.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crapgame13
    that being said, this is the second "main event" Bisping has bored the piss out of me. Rashad has no finishing power on the ground. Bisping can't handle wrestlers overall though he did have a couple of nice sprawls
    Tell Jason Lambert that Rashad has no finishing power on the ground. He didn't show much in this fight but I think it's a bit odd to say Rashad can't finish people on the ground when he smoked Lambert from Mount.

    Also, I'm guessing you mean "main card" when you say this main event regarding Bisping. I'm pretty sure this is the only card he's ever headlined.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crapgame13
    December's card is awesome just for the top 3 fights (Serra/Hughes, Iceman/Wanderlei, Soko/Machida)
    It's a sweet card. WHo do you think the main event is? From those promos during the main event it seemed like Chuck-Wandy is the main event. They kinda just mentioned Hughes-Serra in passing. Even though that's the title fight and Chuck and Wandy are coming off of losses I'd make that the main event. 2 legends finally throwing down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASUcruz View Post
    Also, I'm guessing you mean "main card" when you say this main event regarding Bisping. I'm pretty sure this is the only card he's ever headlined.
    Hammill/Bisping was a co-main event or at least marketed that way

    It's a sweet card. WHo do you think the main event is? From those promos during the main event it seemed like Chuck-Wandy is the main event. They kinda just mentioned Hughes-Serra in passing. Even though that's the title fight and Chuck and Wandy are coming off of losses I'd make that the main event. 2 legends finally throwing down.
    Serra-Hughes, finale to the "reality" show, it's also for a title

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