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    Quote Originally Posted by SmytheKing View Post
    I don't see a single person in that class that can beat him. He outwrestled the two best wrestlers in that division and there aren't a lot of big strikers that could pick him apart. Karo wouldn't be able to use his endurance or throws because GSP is just as conditioned and I have no reason to believe Karo is as strong as him.
    GSP would be the favorite over everybody at 170 pounds I think. I would give Karo a bit of a chance only because his technique is so good. He'd still be a big underdog but it would be an interesting fight since Karo is a much different fighter than GSP has seen in his last few fights.

    I would give Fitch a pretty good chance because he's a big WW like GSP and would probably be as strong if not stronger. GSP wouldn't have his strength advantage, but again GSP is a much better striker.

    Jake Shields in the future maybe. He's looked great against Mike Pyle and he's also a pretty big WW. But again, GSP would be the betting favorite. Let's all hope he gets by Serra so we can see him fight somebody new!
    Quote Originally Posted by SmytheKing
    Hell, if Silva beats Henderson, why not a Hendo/Liddell fight? That could be an interesting fight
    Man that is interesting. I know Hendo wants to fight at 205 even though he is a more natural MW. Chuck is so big though, I think Hendo would have trouble. Still it would make for a very good fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crapgame13 View Post
    just get all the Pride lovers mad and put Shogun and Silva in a match
    You think they would fight each other? Both guys have left Chute Box so it's more of a possibility now than it was before. It's definitely a fight we all want to see. And it will probably be the first fight were close teammates or I guess in this case ex teammates fought.

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    Alright, so I'm a little late with my (detailed) thoughts on UFC 79, but:

    GSP / Hughes:
    Wow. Just, wow. Anyone who's read this thread knows that I'm biased because a) I'm Canadian, and b) I'm a total GSP nuthugger, but that was simply awesome. GSP made Hughes look like a complete and total amateur. If THAT GSP shows up every time, there isn't a single WW fighter in the UFC today that can take him. Fitch would put up a good fight, but I think GSP would still take it. I'm very excited by the possibility of the UFC in Montreal in April (only a 1.5 hour drive away). Aside from another lucky punch, I don't see how Serra can win. GSP is just so good at everything. Yes, Serra has the better BJJ, but that's about it. GSP is going to be determined, and that's a scarry thought. I was a little worried about how the fans would react to GSP's broken english when he said the (interim) belt didn't mean anything to him, but luckily, they let him finish his thought so it made sense. As far as Hughes goes, other than the fight with Serra, I don't see any reason he should stick around. It was very nice to hear him say that Georges "is" the better fighter. And I couldn't help but smile when Georges sunk that armbar in.

    Chuck / Wandy:
    A great fight. Was it the same as it would've been 3 or 4 years ago? Hell no, but still great nonetheless. Very nice to see Chuck re-introducing things like takedowns and elbows into his game. I had almost forgotten he knew what those were. I was a little disappointed with Chuck's constant clock-watching in the last minute, but other than that, there's not much to complain about with this one. I'd still kinda like to see an Ortiz / Silva rematch. As for Chuck, Machida or Shogun.

    Machida / Soko:
    How can ANYONE honestly expect to have any real success in MMA these days being so one-dimensional? Having watched a few Soko matches before, I just figured that we hadn't had a real chance to see his ground game, and he'd be fine once it hit the mat. Boy, was I wrong. He's solely relying on his KO power, just like Houston Alexander did. And he got exposed, just like H.A. did. Take some time, work off your back against some TOP-QUALITY guys, and come back. Machida on the other hand looked great. I'd say match him up with Jardine or Shogun in order to position him for a title shot sooner rather than later (after Forrest of course).

    Sanchez / Palelei:
    Not a great fight by any means, and Sanchez's taunting did nothing for me. I would not care if I saw either one of these guys in the UFC again. Throw Sanchez in against Vera or Arlovski so he can lose to another high profile fighter and leave my TV forever. I just don't care.

    Clementi / Guillard:
    I've never thought much of Melvin, and so I was glad to see him once again get submitted. He just doesn't have the skills to back up his tough guy talk. Either move him to the WEC, or cut him (there's a rumour on Sherdog that he has been cut, no source though). Clementi looked good though. He got a little lucky when Melvin slipped going for that knee to the head, but I still think he would have pulled it off. Regardless, as much as I understand that there was legitimate bad blood between the 2, I could've done without Rich's trash talking at the end. Be the bigger man, don't be such a dick. It was great though, even my girlfriend (who watches to appease me, but doesn't care whatsoever) noticed the body triangle and realized Melvin was done for. Danzig would be a good matchup for Clementi. If Rich loses, great, the UFC gets to build up Mac a little more. If Mac loses, well, no big deal because of the experience Clementi has compared to Mac.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crapgame13 View Post
    just get all the Pride lovers mad and put Shogun and Silva in a match
    LMFAO!!! Sherdog would explode from all the "Kill Dana" / "The UFC is TRYING to make Pride look bad" threads. I, for one, am all for it.

    Quote Originally Posted by ASUcruz View Post
    It was really smart to shoot for the takedown in the third. Just gave Wanderlei another thing to worry about and it also scored some points. I hope we see Chuck fight like this from now on. It's clear he still has a few more fights left in him.
    Exactly. I had the same thought. VERY smart move by Chuck. I think Wanderlei was mentally finished after that. The 2 of them had spent so much time in the press saying they were going to just stand there and bang, that I'm fairly certain Wandy didn't train much (if any) for any sort of ground game, and the idea of it just threw him off too much.
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    Here's my question, where does Keith Jardine go?

    You have a lot of high profile 205 guys coming off a loss: Shogun, Silva, Houston, Soko,

    Bisping and Hendo are dropping

    He's beaten Chuck

    Rampage and Forrest are fighting for the belt even though Jardine's beaten Forrest

    Machida? a rematch with Rashad? Those are the only two on as much of a streak

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crapgame13 View Post
    Here's my question, where does Keith Jardine go?

    You have a lot of high profile 205 guys coming off a loss: Shogun, Silva, Houston, Soko,

    Bisping and Hendo are dropping

    He's beaten Chuck

    Rampage and Forrest are fighting for the belt even though Jardine's beaten Forrest

    Machida? a rematch with Rashad? Those are the only two on as much of a streak
    Evans isn't a bad idea, as long as it's not the main event. We don't need another TUF main event anytime soon.

    Wouldn't mind seeing a rematch with Houston. I think Shogun or Silva would kill him. Soko would be entertaining, as neither one of them is much of a ground fighter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OvertimeHero View Post
    Chuck / Wandy:
    I'd still kinda like to see an Ortiz / Silva rematch. As for Chuck, Machida or Shogun.
    Ortiz-Silva would be an interesting match. Tito won't like it because he beat him already but I have no desire to see him fight Rashad again. And I think they'll only use Ortiz in fights against big names, they'll sell more PPVs that way.
    Quote Originally Posted by OvertimeHero

    Machida / Soko:
    How can ANYONE honestly expect to have any real success in MMA these days being so one-dimensional? Having watched a few Soko matches before, I just figured that we hadn't had a real chance to see his ground game, and he'd be fine once it hit the mat. Boy, was I wrong. He's solely relying on his KO power, just like Houston Alexander did. And he got exposed, just like H.A. did. Take some time, work off your back against some TOP-QUALITY guys, and come back. Machida on the other hand looked great. I'd say match him up with Jardine or Shogun in order to position him for a title shot sooner rather than later (after Forrest of course).
    I wouldn't call Soko completley one dimensional. He's a Judo champion so he has that wrinkle to his game. But yea his grappling is subpar. But I would hesitant to call him a Houston Alexander.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crapgame13 View Post
    Here's my question, where does Keith Jardine go?

    You have a lot of high profile 205 guys coming off a loss: Shogun, Silva, Houston, Soko,

    Bisping and Hendo are dropping

    He's beaten Chuck

    Rampage and Forrest are fighting for the belt even though Jardine's beaten Forrest

    Machida? a rematch with Rashad? Those are the only two on as much of a streak
    Houston Alexander really screwed things up!

    A fight with Rashad makes the most sense because both guys have been winning fighters lately but both guys won't fight each which screws things up.

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    Interesting tidbit from CBS

    Having already signed Pride FC's middleweight and light heavyweight champion in Dan Henderson, White openly admitted that he would like to bring in another one of Pride's champions:

    Lightweight champion Takanori Gomi.

    When asked about Gomi, White was quick to respond:

    "I've wanted to sign Takanori Gomi for a long time. I am very interested in him,"

    At UFC 79, Gomi had ringside seats. Was it just a coincidence or was Gomi at the arena to talk to White?

    "Gomi was just here to watch the fights," White said, "He did stop by and say hello though."
    I'd love to see Gomi in the UFC. I wonder if he could make 155 though. PRIDE made their LW division 162 or whatever random number it was because of him. And apparently Gomi always had a bitch of a time making weight.

    Whether or not he fights at 155 or 170 I think he'll be a great addition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASUcruz View Post
    Interesting tidbit from CBS



    I'd love to see Gomi in the UFC. I wonder if he could make 155 though. PRIDE made their LW division 162 or whatever random number it was because of him. And apparently Gomi always had a bitch of a time making weight.

    Whether or not he fights at 155 or 170 I think he'll be a great addition.
    That's REALLY odd considering a couple months back he said they didn't need him and that "nobody know's who he is". Gomi must have come down on his demands. ; )

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