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    I thought it looked great. I like the one box solution. I'd love to see them take it further by creating a home automation protocol that would allow 3rd parties to build devices that can be controlled through the Kinnect's voice recognition.

    Addressing the negative points raised so far:

    Graphics on release titles never demonstrate a next-gen system's capabilities. It takes a year or two of refining graphic libraries before developers harness the power of new systems.

    Sure, Kinnect is kind of creepy, but it's a simple fix for the paranoid. Cover the cameras or disconnect the cable when you're not using your Xbox.

    We'll have to see on the used game thing, but it wouldn't bother me personally. I tend to buy older, cheap games through Live and rarely buy games on disc anymore. (too lazy to get up and change the disc)

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyalSubject View Post
    I like the one box solution.
    Except is it really a one box solution? It's an accessory to your cable box. And in my situation it would be totally useless as I ditched my cable box/subscription years ago. All the shows I watch are streamed through the internet already.

    It's clear that this thing just isn't for me (and I own two 360's). Even if they used game fee situation turns out to be false it still has way too many negatives. What remains to be seen now is what the PS4 offers or whether I skip the next gen altogether.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadIdea View Post
    Except is it really a one box solution? It's an accessory to your cable box. And in my situation it would be totally useless as I ditched my cable box/subscription years ago. All the shows I watch are streamed through the internet already.
    As far as functionality is concerned, yes I'd say it is. It turns the cable box into an access point, and removes the need for the user to interact with its clunky interface.

    I ditched cable back in 2004., but that doesn't mean I can't appreciate what they've done, and as a software engineer, see potential beyond integrating with a cable box. Intelligent, connected devices are the next big wave of innovation that the internet will bring. Right now it's just a bunch of hackers/makers doing their own thing with no standardization. This new system, combined with the ubiquity of the Xbox brand, gives MS an opportunity to be a major player in this market if they're smart enough to look beyond the entertainment aspect and implement a standard communication protocol for connected devices.

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    My 360 has been messed up for awhile and I was thinking of replacing it. Might have to pop for this bad boy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyalSubject View Post
    As far as functionality is concerned, yes I'd say it is. It turns the cable box into an access point, and removes the need for the user to interact with its clunky interface.

    I ditched cable back in 2004., but that doesn't mean I can't appreciate what they've done, and as a software engineer, see potential beyond integrating with a cable box. Intelligent, connected devices are the next big wave of innovation that the internet will bring. Right now it's just a bunch of hackers/makers doing their own thing with no standardization. This new system, combined with the ubiquity of the Xbox brand, gives MS an opportunity to be a major player in this market if they're smart enough to look beyond the entertainment aspect and implement a standard communication protocol for connected devices.
    No doubt the tech is cool but are that many people excited to go from - cable box to XboxOne to AV Receiver to the TV - just so they don't have to press a single button on their remote? No doubt "intelligent, connected devices" are the future but there's no way this is it.

    Modern TV's already do a lot of what their advertising and that trend will only increase. The way people watch TV is rapidly changing, as you and I can testify to. The cable companies and television studios seem way behind in this regard. The cable box is quickly becoming irrelevant and because the Xbox One simply piggybacks an existing cable box instead of replacing it, it will become an obstacle to the ways we watch TV rather than enhance it.

    I think that's why a lot of people are disappointed. They wanted a gaming system first. Not an unnecessary entertainment hub that also plays games. Add on to that the always on Kinect, the (basically) always on internet requirement, the DRM bs, the potential elimination of used games, an additional pay wall to services that are free elsewhere (Hulu, Netflix, etc.), and I just don't see the appeal. Who is thing being made for? It's tech is niche enough to not be broadly appealing and it's gaming solution seems to be becoming draconian enough to drive away most of the Xbox 360 audience. And, oh yeah, no one likes Windows 8.

    I've been a gamer nearly all my life (nearing 40). It comprises a large part of my entertainment dollars. Some of my fondest gaming memories were made on the 360. Given what they've shown so far there is no way I buy this thing. Most games are available elsewhere. A few exclusives, most likely involving Kinect some way, don't even come close to making it worth putting up with all the negatives. This thing wasn't built for gamers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BadIdea View Post
    And, oh yeah, no one likes Windows 8.
    This is the most ridiculous complaint I've read regarding the One. The complaints about Windows 8 have been due to forced use of the Metro style interface. The One uses the Windows 8 kernel which is a very low level part of the OS that has nothing to do with the user interface. People making this complaint are doing it through sheer tech ignorance. It's synonymous with not buying a particular model of car because it uses the same engine another model where you didn't like the dashboard layout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyalSubject View Post
    This is the most ridiculous complaint I've read regarding the One. The complaints about Windows 8 have been due to forced use of the Metro style interface. The One uses the Windows 8 kernel which is a very low level part of the OS that has nothing to do with the user interface. People making this complaint are doing it through sheer tech ignorance. It's synonymous with not buying a particular model of car because it uses the same engine another model where you didn't like the dashboard layout.
    Relax guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadIdea View Post
    Relax guy.
    I wasn't ever not relaxed. Just stating facts. Can't tell if you were being serious or not, but I've seen people saying the same thing all over the web as if it's a valid reason to hate the new system. It was only a matter of time before someone else posted it here, so that myth needed to be put to bed asap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadIdea View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RoyalSubject View Post
    As far as functionality is concerned, yes I'd say it is. It turns the cable box into an access point, and removes the need for the user to interact with its clunky interface.

    I ditched cable back in 2004., but that doesn't mean I can't appreciate what they've done, and as a software engineer, see potential beyond integrating with a cable box. Intelligent, connected devices are the next big wave of innovation that the internet will bring. Right now it's just a bunch of hackers/makers doing their own thing with no standardization. This new system, combined with the ubiquity of the Xbox brand, gives MS an opportunity to be a major player in this market if they're smart enough to look beyond the entertainment aspect and implement a standard communication protocol for connected devices.
    No doubt the tech is cool but are that many people excited to go from - cable box to XboxOne to AV Receiver to the TV - just so they don't have to press a single button on their remote? No doubt "intelligent, connected devices" are the future but there's no way this is it.

    Modern TV's already do a lot of what their advertising and that trend will only increase. The way people watch TV is rapidly changing, as you and I can testify to. The cable companies and television studios seem way behind in this regard. The cable box is quickly becoming irrelevant and because the Xbox One simply piggybacks an existing cable box instead of replacing it, it will become an obstacle to the ways we watch TV rather than enhance it.

    I think that's why a lot of people are disappointed. They wanted a gaming system first. Not an unnecessary entertainment hub that also plays games. Add on to that the always on Kinect, the (basically) always on internet requirement, the DRM bs, the potential elimination of used games, an additional pay wall to services that are free elsewhere (Hulu, Netflix, etc.), and I just don't see the appeal. Who is thing being made for? It's tech is niche enough to not be broadly appealing and it's gaming solution seems to be becoming draconian enough to drive away most of the Xbox 360 audience. And, oh yeah, no one likes Windows 8.

    I've been a gamer nearly all my life (nearing 40). It comprises a large part of my entertainment dollars. Some of my fondest gaming memories were made on the 360. Given what they've shown so far there is no way I buy this thing. Most games are available elsewhere. A few exclusives, most likely involving Kinect some way, don't even come close to making it worth putting up with all the negatives. This thing wasn't built for gamers.
    Complaining about drm really pisses me off. Sucks people will have a harder time copying games off the net. Sucks developers will actually get paid and maybe won't shut down as much.

    I get some of the "home" features aren't for you, but saying its not made for gamers is kinda silly. Not only is it to early to tell which system will have the better library, but it's still going to be a game system first. Why can't a game system also support some pretty cool features?

    The all in one box is great, even better if they can support a login for your cable provider and bypass a cable box all together.

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