Regardless of how little schooling or experience, everyone should still have enough income to eat and have a roof over their head without having to be on social programs. The U.S. should be setting the bar for the rest of the world.
Large corporations with billions in profit: Worst wages and 0 benefits. Millions in tax breaks.
Small/medium privately owned business with reasonable profit margins: Best pay, full benefits and ZERO tax breaks.
What the **** is wrong with this picture?
A single large corporation has bought a large amount of privately owned businesses that my company does contract work for. Over the last 10 years they've automated everything to enable them to release all of the employees with a knowledge or skill required for certain jobs on the facility. The new operators know nothing about the process, they just know "I push this button", therefore they get paid squat.
Large companies actively seek to destroy jobs that require knowledge and skill, all in the name of he bottom line.
But cheers boys, those fast food workers are scum and not even worth $12 an hour, amirite?!
They would probably blow that huge $240 a week take home check on drugs instead of spending it on all of this affordable education we have here, or at least finance it because school loan rates are so "low"
Last edited by Fropitar; August 23rd, 2013 at 11:48 PM.
The world needs blue collar workers.
Should they make the same salary as an electrical engineer? Of course not. But should they have to live in poverty with no benefits because ______ corporation needs to make an extra billion in profit this quarter? Or because they didn't "work their way to the top because they're clearly just lazy"? Hell to the no, my friend.
At least not in the America I was so proud to be a part of when I was a child.
Now? I'm not so sure what America even stands for.
My sister-in-law managed a major-chain coffee shop for a couple of years. The stories she told were really quite amazing. I couldn't believe the antics of the staff. With rare exception, they stole, lied, were chastised for being rude to customers, or just didn't show up. Jobs like this are for cutting your teeth in the working world. It's where you learn you have to do certain things to be employable at a REAL job.
It would be wonderful for middle-class to be the bottom class, but the world just doesn't work that way.
I just took a job in LA after working in Pasadena for 8 years. One of the fast food restaurants I go to I also went to 8 years ago. One of the current employees was also there 8 years ago. She hasn't move up at all, she's still working behind the counter. That's fine, but is that really worth $15+ an hour just because she's been there a long time? No, it's not. Fast food should be a stepping stone to bigger opportunities/salaries elsewhere. Unless if you're the manager, there's no need to do fast food for more than a few years at most.
I dont agree with lumping a group of people as "undependable and unemployable", especially since jobs are hard to come by these days. I would never condescend upon you just because you were a mason worker. You're still a son, maybe a brother or even a father. Just trying to do the best you can with what you have.
Obviously fast food workers will never make 15/hr. But in contrast minimum wage in 1977 was $2.50. Adjusted for inflation that number is $10.88. The current average minimum wage is $7.25. That extra $3.63/hr @ 40hrs would be roughly $350 extra a month take home. That could make a huge difference to a starving student that can't find any other job. A student that is amassing an increasingly large amount of debt at ridiculous rates in school loans, paying for gas at $4 a gallon etc.
Now with Obama Care, people like you who are/were willing to work hard (a long 40hr week of building block walls) won't even be able to do that, because they'll all be cut to part time.
****ty times we live in..
I feel fortunate.
Last edited by Fropitar; August 24th, 2013 at 08:19 PM.
I don't disagree. Where we disagree is that minimum wage is currently a stone to step on. It's not. It's currently more like a bad (or good) episode of Wipeout.
You both seem to paint the picture that you were good workers that were surrounded by incompetent coworkers when you were working low wage jobs. Why punish other guys who were just like you because of them? Fire those workers. These days there is large group of hard workers who need a job, any job.
You seem to have this narrow view that anything that doesn't involve exploitation, greed, and class suppression is for morons or stupid. While it is your right to do so, don't think there aren't those who believe there's a better way. The working class and the employing class have nothing in common, and a class struggle must go on until the workers of the world organize, take possession of the means of production, abolish the wage system, and live in harmony with the Earth.