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    I got a late start this year but here is what I got...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salty Dog View Post
    How'd the hanging tomato plants work for you? I tried them once and wasn't too impressed. I was hoping to limit bugs getting into them but still managed to get one these bastards eating my plants:
    They don't produce **** unless you water them a lot. I though it was totally failed experiment. It was fun, I got limited maters. You have to dripper it, or water it a ton, or it doesn't do squat.

    I fought Tomato bugs for years to the point where I went Chemical on them and sprayed BT on everything. Wife and Mom hated it and got skittish about eating them. Sure enough, I put out a bird feeder the next year, and the Finches moved in and have kept them in check ever since.

    Quote Originally Posted by Salty Dog
    This year I'm trying to prune/stake my tomatoes rather than use cages. I thought it would be easy but I can't keep up with some of them. I remove suckers almost daily and still get behind and end up with multiple stems - especially on the indeterminate ones. We'll see if it pays off, I already have a ton of fruit on them and they're close to 6ft tall, but it's more work than just using cages.
    Yes it is. Eventually, the vines just take off and have a mind of their own, and then I started roping them all together just to keep them upright and not falling over. They finally won that battle. Since then, I've gone back to the expensive tomato cages that I can reuse year by year, replacing them when they start to fall apart or bend beyond easy repair.

    I actually started using these this year, and love being able to move the side panel/clips upward:

    Amazon.com: Gardener's Blue Ribbon TMC60 Ultomato Tomato Plant Cage: Patio, Lawn & Garden
    Last edited by Birdman; June 4th, 2013 at 01:15 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdman View Post
    They don't produce **** unless you water them a lot. I though it was totally failed experiment. It was fun, I got limited maters. You have to dripper it, or water it a ton, or it doesn't do squat.
    Yeah, same results for me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Birdman View Post
    I fought Tomato bugs for years to the point where I went Chemical on them and sprayed BT on everything. Wife and Mom hated it and got skittish about eating them. Sure enough, I put out a bird feeder the next year, and the Finches moved in and have kept them in check ever since. [/url]
    I tried doing the companion plants things this year and grew cilantro and basil around the tomatoes. Didn't do ****. In fact, when picking my cilantro the other day and chopping it up I found what looked like 3 tiny tomato worms, or at least 3 really little green guys squirming around. And a nasty spider. Gotta love organic gardening.
    Quote Originally Posted by Birdman View Post
    Yes it is. Eventually, the vines just take off and have a mind of their own, and then I started roping them all together just to keep them upright and not falling over. They finally won that battle. Since then, I've gone back to the expensive tomato cages that I can reuse year by year, replacing them when they start to fall apart or bend beyond easy repair.

    I actually started using these this year, and love being able to move the side panel/clips upward:

    Amazon.com: Gardener's Blue Ribbon TMC60 Ultomato Tomato Plant Cage: Patio, Lawn & Garden
    I debated getting those this year as my old cages were starting to fall apart but I cheaped out and went with bamboo and twist ties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdman View Post
    I'm shocked that you don't know that Slugs love Beer, and they drown in it. Bury a pie plate to the edges and fill it with something you wouldn't normally drink (Keystone).
    actually, I did know about it but completely forgot. thanks for bringing it up. I'll try that if the salt treatment fails, which hasn't yet. the strawberries have been coming on fine and ready to get picked and eaten. they've come out small and tasted a bit sour.

    about the maters, I planted the seeds for the heirloom cherry ones over a year ago. they started producing the nice ones last Spring until I noticed a cluster of keeled treehoppers populating the vines. the little buggers started out as black and spiky as hell til they turn green when maturing.



    I tried the soapy water spray on the little ****ers and it worked some, but they weren't detered. plus the vines had started to dry out through the Summer so I pulled them out and planted new seeds. but the ****in squirrels quickly dug into the fresh dirt and buried their nuts in there, thus displacing the seeds.

    so, around Easter this year, along with other crops, I started over with just one seed for the mater and other seeds for the sugar snap peas in the same pot. now both are growing fine and dandy, the peas maturing faster than I expected.




    other crops:

    corn row in the rear, some chile pepper on the front left, leek at the front. I planted a seed for another kind of chile pepper on the right but it didn't break.


    maui onions


    red and yellow bell peppers, strawberries


    one strawberry too small to be picked



    two night blooming jasmine bushes. the one at the top didn't fare well in the planter so I moved it into the ground a month ago. it seems to be recovering. the one at the bottom will get pruned if I can figure out how.

    standing above it all is the avocado tree. it hasn't produced much **** at all ever since the dumbass tree trimmers cut back too much two years ago. before then, the squirrels and rats got to the fruits first. I got lucky once and took an untouched piece but it's not a Hass. other avo trees on the block have much better tasting ones.

    I had taken up herbs and winter gardening but failed at both, so hopefully this year will be a much successfull one.
    Last edited by BeerMan; June 4th, 2013 at 10:24 PM. Reason: fixed image of keeled treehoppers
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    I have a ton of experience growing hydroponic cannabis, tomatoes, and peppers. Unfortunately, I don't have anything going right now.

    I have a aeroponic,/nft hybrid rig I built a few weeks ago for growing my wife's California approved medicine. I need to make or purchase an isolation tent and some fans with a carbon filter before I can begin.

    The rig is pretty advanced. It's a 2' x2' 4 site system. I have a submersible pump in a 5 gallon nutrient solution reservoir that feeds atomizer sprinkler heads directly into net pots resting in sealed root chambers. The nutrient feed is on a 1min on, 4 min off, 24/7 cycle timer. The chambers drain back to the reservoir for recycling. I also have an air pump and air stones in the nutrient solution, and in each root chamber to maximize root oxygen intake.

    About 8 inches above the top of the net pot, I have 2" netting stretched across the entire rig, which will be used for low stress training to maximize canopy surface area and light distribution. I have 2 - 250w 6500k CFL light bulbs and reflectors for vegetative state. Plan on a 20/4 light cycle. I also have 2 - 250w 2700k CFL bulbs to swap out when the LST net canopy is almost full, and will switch to a 12/12 light cycle.

    I'll take some pics and post em when I get closer to having all the materials I need.

    This fall and winter, I plan on using a wall of the never used formal dining area, and building a rack into a hydroponic lettuce, sprout, and herb garden. All flouros, as I don't want to contend with all the heat issues HID lights bring.
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    Fish fertilizer revisited. I was having a helluva time with my San Marzano's getting end rot - something I've rarely had to deal with before. Turns out that fish fertilizer is so heavily nitrogen based 5-1-1 that it can cause the plants to not get enough calcium (I don't know the science behind it, just what I read) causing end rot. I stopped the fish fertilizer and got some that is 0-10-5 and some Rot Stop and so far it seems to be helping. Funny thing is I didn't get end rot on the Mong, Pineapple, or Lemon Drop tomatoes - just the Marzanos.
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    Do you add a couple handfulls of hydrated lime when you turn over your dirt? Its good practice to do so. That will absolutely stop End Rot.

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    I'm trying Safer Caterpillar Killer this season, hoping that it works. It contains BT which is supposed to be non-toxic to humans and bees etc. but makes the caterpillars innards swell up and they die. Using Earth Juice for nutrients.
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    I've used Captain Jack's Dead Bug Brew for about 6 years now. Love it! Kills the s*** out of Hornworms.

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