July 10th, 2013, 06:17 AM #41
Wow, very in depth and very interesting. Thanks FBJ
July 10th, 2013, 11:21 AM #42
F me. I will make sure to be more choosie if I ever travel international again. I hope the FAA scrutinizes them a bit more.
July 10th, 2013, 12:34 PM #43
The latest report says that the pilot was on his first 777 flight and the co-pilot was on his first pilot training flight. Yikes.
Last edited by job; July 10th, 2013 at 12:39 PM.
July 10th, 2013, 01:22 PM #44
Really, those facts are not an issue. They were both very experienced aviators in terms of total flight time. After a certain point, one Boeing is another Boeing with the exception of some systems differences. This is NOT about their experience level. Those facts are presented for no other reason than to provide an anchor for newsie drama. If you knew how many times a DAY that very combination occurs in airliners across the world, would you drive everywhere?
Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice. Bullets are cheap. Life is priceless.
July 10th, 2013, 01:42 PM #45
Scarier thought, try driving by a community college and thinking of all those kids who just got a car for going to college....
Originally Posted by FBJ
July 10th, 2013, 07:31 PM #46
July 10th, 2013, 08:37 PM #47
Would seem to be the pilots basic and "only" job is to watch the airspeed and altitude monitors, might of been fine if you were piloting something smaller but a 777 is of a large airframe that requires more airspeed to land than say a 737.
Originally Posted by BeerMan
I make some stuff for the Boeing's but will leave this to the pilots who know their stuff. Thanks FBJ for your input.
But I will say this, having an asian partner (wife) for many years, the culture thing is ingrained so when you are at my house if you reach for a pencil remember the pointed end is up, if you reach in to the dishwasher for a fork...........I don't fight the little stuff.
Last edited by empire; July 10th, 2013 at 08:44 PM.
July 11th, 2013, 10:20 AM #48
My wife does this and she is not Asian, it bugs the crap out of me and I explain to her every time why not to do this.
Originally Posted by empire
July 11th, 2013, 12:18 PM #49
"Sources in the country's transport ministry confirmed Bong Dong Won - who was in the cockpit jump seat - repeatedly yelled "sink rate" in the final minute before the crash, it was reported.
If the sink rate - the rate of decrease in altitude - was checked when Mr Bong raised the alarm, it may have prevented the plane from hitting the seawall as it landed at San Francisco Airport, reports said.
But the two pilots at the controls - Lee Kang Kuk and his instructor Lee Jung Min - apparently did not respond to Mr Bong's shouted warnings, the respected Joongang Daily newspaper said."
San Francisco Crash: Pilot Warnings 'Ignored'
'Blinded By Light'
San Francisco Crash Pilot 'Blinded By Light'
July 11th, 2013, 01:30 PM #50
If that is true then the younger pilot shouted numerous warnings but was ignored by the two senior and older pilots.