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    Islanders made him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crockett77 View Post
    Former Kings backup, circa 2014-15, Jones won 3 out of the 4 series he has started in San Jose so far in his young career. Maybe think before you spew your BS as fact, it wasn't that long ago.
    In San Jose, not in LA, which is what we are discussing.

    You are turning into the most aggressively wrong person on this board, Crock. Why you want to underline your inadequacies with insults to your betters is a good question for an analyst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gretzky99 View Post
    the Hall/Larsson deal sure makes this post look a little silly, no? Muzzin is clearly a better player than Larsson. And Hall is at least as good as Landeskog.
    Team Canada picked Muzzin - so unless they all have the same "glasses" on, I think you might be a little off in your assessment.
    No, Muzzin is not clearly better than Larsson. Where in.the world would you get that?

    Larsson is a high-end potential #1 right shot defender who is very good in all assets of the game.

    Muzzin is older, and frankly has struggled to retain his best form when not attached to Doughty's hip. He is a solid top 4 defender with an excellent shot, but not as strong in his end as Larsson and without anywhere near the potential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gretzky99 View Post
    the Hall/Larsson deal sure makes this post look a little silly, no? Muzzin is clearly a better player than Larsson. And Hall is at least as good as Landeskog.
    Team Canada picked Muzzin - so unless they all have the same "glasses" on, I think you might be a little off in your assessment.
    You are making comparisons without factoring in context. Larsson is 3 years younger than Muzzin. The jury's still out on him, don't forget he is expected to be a #1 D on young Oilers D squad with recent history of extended suck.

    With Muzzin, what you see is what you get, and it certainly doesn't scream consistency, does it? His whole career is one big rollercoaster with many ups and just as many downs. What makes him a nice tradeable asset, however, are his past contributions in meaningful games, which have been undeniable.

    I take Landeskog over Hall any day of the week because of reasons already mentioned a few times in this thread.

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    Default Kings with heavy interest in Landeskog

    Larsson may have more "potential" but Muzzin has a Cup ring and selected for Team Canada this year. And Muzzin's offensive game is far superior to Larsson's. It's really not close.

    Muzzin is 3 years older and their contracts are similar (Muzzin is a little cheaper).

    As of today, Muzzin is the better player. Larsson may have a higher upside but he has proven very little so far.

    Hall clearly has a higher ceiling than Landeskog, so it still evens out even if you think Larsson is worth a little more.

    Point still remains, anything more than Muzzin straight up is an overpayment for Landeskog.

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    Default Kings with heavy interest in Landeskog

    I find it interesting that folks like to throw around "potential" when it suits them but forget that Hall was the number 1 overall pick in the draft just a few years ago.

    Hall is 25 and has already produced 2 seasons of more than 1 point per game. I like Landeskog but Hall is a legit top end scoring winger. Hall is all of 1 year older than Landeskog.

    Team Canada took Muzzin over Subban and Letang among others. Clearly some NHL people think he's a top notch d-man.

    There is some serious undervaluing of Muzzin on this board. We see his mistakes and we magnify them, but his possession numbers are off the charts and that's the way of the NHL right now. Muzzin has some serious value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xvvvx View Post
    landeskog just inst that number 1 oa pick people thought he would be, he's declining and is only 24. will be brown 2.0 imo,
    Landeskog is 24, signed until 28, and has averaged 59 points over the last 3 years.

    Brown is 32, signed until 37, and has averaged 27 points over the last 3 year.

    At this point, Landeskog is closer to Brown x2 than Brown 2.0

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moog View Post
    Only a Ladd.....
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    ... You really can't blame him.
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    Islanders made him.
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    ... He's their responsibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pucker25 View Post
    Landeskog is 24, signed until 28, and has averaged 59 points over the last 3 years.

    Brown is 32, signed until 37, and has averaged 27 points over the last 3 year.

    At this point, Landeskog is closer to Brown x2 than Brown 2.0
    ok, dont say i didn't warn you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gretzky99 View Post
    Team Canada took Muzzin over Subban and Letang among others. Clearly some NHL people think he's a top notch d-man.

    There is some serious undervaluing of Muzzin on this board. We see his mistakes and we magnify them, but his possession numbers are off the charts and that's the way of the NHL right now. Muzzin has some serious value.
    All the more reason to sell high and get something of value in return. No disrespect to Muzzin, he's managed to turn his game around quite nicely, but he also benefits from playing with Doughty and under Sutter. Similar to how people say that Kopitar would score X more points if he wasn't playing in Sutter's system, I don't think you'd see Muzzin putting up similar possession numbers if he was in a different system and I think his "mistakes" would be much more obvious if he didn't have a guy like Doughty logging 98 minutes a night against all the top lines.

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