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    Default Thank you Dean Lombardi...

    ...for trading Colin Miller and Martin Jones away to bring in Milan Lucic...for all the trades good and bad, and all the signings good and bad that move right there has to among the worst, if not the worst, of all the moves you ever penned or even thought about no less actually executed...Thank God you happened to put together lightning in a bottle twice and bring us 2 cups (which I am glad I got to see, thinking I never would) but my goodness could that trade continue to look any worse, it gets worse by the minute. The other trades and signings and all the other crap at least the result was 2 cups. The Miller/Jones for Lucic after the window had shut was just plain stupid, like really dumb

    Since that trade, Boston = Great; Sharks = pretty good; Kings = WTF? Is this the black hole again?

    DL, The Legend Continues!

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    We all know that was a desperate Band-Aid move to save his job. A short-sighted plan always comes back to bite you in the ass.

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    Definitely one of the worst trades in Kings history but hey, we'll always have 2012 and 2014. So thanks Dean!

    Now don't get me wrong, the Kings team we have now is unacceptable but I still thank Dean for what he did before he was on his way out.
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    Soooo... you'da kept Martin Jones and traded Quick?

    Because only one of them could be the starter for the Kings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darby View Post
    Soooo... you'da kept Martin Jones and traded Quick?

    Because only one of them could be the starter for the Kings.
    Yes, despite Quick being great, top level, and it would suck to not have him, its asset management and Martin Jones is quite capable, not as good as Quick but still an easy #1 goalie, I don't think the drop off from JQ to Martin Jones is all that vast. The assets JQ would have brought back at that time would have been a haul (and very much needed from years of top finishes and no top draft picks) and I very much doubt had that move been made there would have been any missed playoffs, nor be down 3-0 to Vegas at this time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by darby View Post
    Soooo... you'da kept Martin Jones and traded Quick?

    Because only one of them could be the starter for the Kings.
    Or the Kings could have traded him to San Jose for a first, kept their own, and had one of Miller or McNabb.

    Even if Jones walked, it would have been better than trading for Lucic.

    It was one of Lombardi's worst decisions. He married himself to players he hadn't even acquired yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King'sPawn View Post
    Or the Kings could have traded him to San Jose for a first, kept their own, and had one of Miller or McNabb.

    Even if Jones walked, it would have been better than trading for Lucic.

    It was one of Lombardi's worst decisions. He married himself to players he hadn't even acquired yet.
    You're looking at this with hindsight.

    Martin Jones was a backup who wasn't gonna stay. Miller was a prospect along with several other promising defensemen. Lombardi specifically didn't want Jones to end up in the division, and was pissed off to see him moved to SJ immediately after sending him across the country (on paper, for a few minutes).

    Now, was the Lucic trade ill advised? Sure. And there were those who weren't excited about it at the time around here. Lucic had the one year left on his deal, so the only way that trade made sense was to get him to re-sign.

    But Dean wasn't married to him at that point. He was married to the other long term contracts he saddled himself with. And he was married to a style of play and a coach that had gotten the Kings two Cups. He was holding on for dear life to the team he saw slipping away because he married himself to a core that wasn't looking like it was gonna be able to ride the bike without training wheels their entire careers. So he brought in what he thought was a new training wheel that, by all rights, should have worked.

    And this was several month AFTER the Sekera trade, which was its own debacle.



    But, in short, this thread is lamenting the development of a guy who wasn't gonna stay in any case, and a guy who was in a group of 3 or 4 of other guys in the same position. A guy who, by the way, was left exposed in the expansion draft and who may well have been exposed had he stayed here. Though, to be fair, in that scenario, then we still would have had either one of he or McNabb, at least in July.


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    Quote Originally Posted by darby View Post
    You're looking at this with hindsight.

    Martin Jones was a backup who wasn't gonna stay. Miller was a prospect along with several other promising defensemen. Lombardi specifically didn't want Jones to end up in the division, and was pissed off to see him moved to SJ immediately after sending him across the country (on paper, for a few minutes).

    Now, was the Lucic trade ill advised? Sure. And there were those who weren't excited about it at the time around here. Lucic had the one year left on his deal, so the only way that trade made sense was to get him to re-sign.

    But Dean wasn't married to him at that point. He was married to the other long term contracts he saddled himself with. And he was married to a style of play and a coach that had gotten the Kings two Cups. He was holding on for dear life to the team he saw slipping away because he married himself to a core that wasn't looking like it was gonna be able to ride the bike without training wheels their entire careers. So he brought in what he thought was a new training wheel that, by all rights, should have worked.

    And this was several month AFTER the Sekera trade, which was its own debacle.



    But, in short, this thread is lamenting the development of a guy who wasn't gonna stay in any case, and a guy who was in a group of 3 or 4 of other guys in the same position. A guy who, by the way, was left exposed in the expansion draft and who may well have been exposed had he stayed here. Though, to be fair, in that scenario, then we still would have had either one of he or McNabb, at least in July.
    I understand Jones was a backup who didn't want to stay that way. Lombardi should have known something was up, though, since the Bruins had Rask at the time. Jones wasn't going to be the Bruins' starter.

    And yes, Lombardi was married to the idea of getting Lucic. They were targeting him for a long time.

    As for the overall tone of the thread, I agree, the Kings would have lost someone anyway. But losing one of McNabb or Miller is better than losing McNabb, Miller, Jones + a 1st (which could have been Barzal, Connor, etc). And Lombardi should have seen what the Kings needed after they missed the playoffs.

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    At that m Moment Lombardi was so sold on lucic that he would have traded his own mother along with the deal.

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    The Lucic deal was one of many horrible things Deano did to screw the Kings for years.

    His multiple bad contracts that he handed out from Brown, Kopi, Gabo, (hopefully in the long run, not Quick)......not getting rid of Richards earlier when he had the chance....lost the Kings a season plus tying up the coin while Richards was in limbo.....Keeping Sutter on for two seasons too long......dealing away top draft picks galore for little to nothing in return......on and on and on.

    ...but hey, we got 2 Cups.

    The price for those two glorious Cup runs: years and years of mediocrity.

    If Blake, (like Luc) is an AEG "yes" man, this is only going to get uglier.

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