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    Quote Originally Posted by jammer06 View Post
    If they fill the 2nd pairing from within, it will only happen because Muzzin finally anchors a pairing without Doughty. No idea if he really has it in him but last year was a hell of a lot of learning experience.

    Stats here for context. They really didn't let them play much together.

    http://www.puckiq.com/wowy/8474162/8474563
    Yeah, I agree with that, just said a different way. LaDue hasn't shown that he can go right into second pair minutes, and if he does, it's going to require Muzzin to carry him somewhat.

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    Lots of you saying a 3C is a bigger priority. Here's why I disagree.

    When I look at it, I see in the system 2 players (Amadio and JAD) who have the potential to grow into that specific role, 2 more players (Vilardi and Kempe) who are suited to top 6, but should absolutely develop their defensive games to a very high level, plus a veteran (Carter) who would shut down any line in hockey if that ever needed to be his role. On the other hand, I see a huge question mark around Paul LaDue for the 2nd pair RD role, and nothing behind him at all, not even in juniors.

    I just can't see this Center depth:

    Kopitar
    Carter
    Kempe
    Vilardi
    Amadio
    JAD
    Kupari
    Thomas
    Rymsha

    as being a bigger problem than this RD depth:

    Doughty
    ???
    LaDue?

    I think playing guys on the wrong side is a handicap. But different strokes for different folks.

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    I too worry about the D depth. The amount of people waxing poetic over Slava really don't remember who was doing the heavy lifting on that pair. If there was a damnably premature cutting of bait it was when they let Mitchell walk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goon Squad View Post
    Lots of you saying a 3C is a bigger priority. Here's why I disagree.

    When I look at it, I see in the system 2 players (Amadio and JAD) who have the potential to grow into that specific role, 2 more players (Vilardi and Kempe) who are suited to top 6, but should absolutely develop their defensive games to a very high level, plus a veteran (Carter) who would shut down any line in hockey if that ever needed to be his role. On the other hand, I see a huge question mark around Paul LaDue for the 2nd pair RD role, and nothing behind him at all, not even in juniors.

    I just can't see this Center depth:

    Kopitar
    Carter
    Kempe
    Vilardi
    Amadio
    JAD
    Kupari
    Thomas
    Rymsha

    as being a bigger problem than this RD depth:

    Doughty
    ???
    LaDue?

    I think playing guys on the wrong side is a handicap. But different strokes for different folks.
    Forgive me, I am speaking strictly for immediate success. Long term they are in desperate need for defensemen, especially right shots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King'sPawn View Post
    They may sign another depth defenseman who's right handed:
    https://www.capfriendly.com/browse/f...a/desc/1/right

    Plus there are RFAs who aren't qualified who may be picked up.

    And they have two left handed defensemen who are comfortable playing on the right side (Phaneuf, Martinez).
    Man, that UFA list is rough. I would honestly say Christian Folin is the best player on there. The only other one I'd even look at is DeMelo from San Jose.
    Might just be premature to cut bait with Folin, you know he'd be just about the ideal partner for Clague's first season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mondo Blando View Post
    Forgive me, I am speaking strictly for immediate success. Long term they are in desperate need for defensemen, especially right shots.
    Got it.

    I have to admit, I enjoyed having a draft with no 6'3 stay at home left shot defensemen. But I was just a little surprised they didn't take a righty.

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    Bernstein says we are interested in Calvin de Haan

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    Well, this article by Dennis Bernstein NOT YOUR DADDY'S KINGS https://www.thefourthperiod.com/bern...-daddys-kings/

    Has this info:

    "So with Kovalchuk in the fold, why even discuss the structure of a Pacioretty or Skinner deal? The need at LW1 was filled and away we go, right? As I said on my SiriusXM show Saturday from the floor of the Draft, “this is not your daddy’s Kings.”

    I’ve heard they’re not done, not only in the pursuit of additional scoring help -- they are now looking at defensive options to create the possibility of making a current roster defenseman available as a trade chip."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goon Squad View Post
    ... not another scoring winger.

    Doughty
    LaDue
    Matt Roy
    Austin Strand

    That's 1 proven NHL player, if you're keeping score at home. Instead of still being in on Pacioretty or Skinner, they should be talking about Faulk. Yes, he has defensive shortcomings, but those would be well hidden on this team. He could be swapped (plus or minus other assets) for your choice of anyone on this list not named Clague:

    Muzzin
    Martinez
    Clague
    Phaneuf
    Forbort
    Fantenberg
    Brickley
    MacDermid
    Lintuniemi
    Moverare
    Anderson
    Hults
    Phillips
    Falkovsky
    Johnson
    Reddekopp
    and your deadbeat cousin all play the left side.

    Every indication is that they don't plan on bringing Voynov back (and there's a whole other thread to discuss the moral implications of that), so from a hockey perspective, what are they doing here?
    Holy Crap. I had NO idea. Thanks for this. And I agree.

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    Beyond Faulk, you have to think Winnipeg has hard thoughts about what to do with Tyler Myers. He could be our complimentary piece and they have a lot of RFA's to deal with.

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