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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangePuck View Post
    which is why I would take the character, professionalism and consistency of Hunter any day of the week
    You remind me of Joe Morgan. But better at English.

    He, after all, is consistently consistent in his praise of such players. Who are, in turn, consistent.

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    I'll tell you what OP, I'll give you the class, professionalism, hard work, and grit of Juan Pierre and you give us a guy who won't nut up and sucks dog balls in the playoffs, Vlad Guerrero.

    Deal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbruin152 View Post
    David Eckstein sucks in the playoffs just like he sucks in the regular season.


    David Eckstein
    2004 World Series M.V.P.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbruin152 View Post
    I'll tell you what OP, I'll give you the class, professionalism, hard work, and grit of Juan Pierre and you give us a guy who won't nut up and sucks dog balls in the playoffs, Vlad Guerrero.

    Deal?
    lol...I think we already clashed on the Vlad MVP thing. We got stuck on the value of protection in the lineup if I remember correctly. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

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    I don't think either of these guys can captain a powerplay unit or hold the blueline or defend the crease with any real ability so... neither.

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    David Eckstein, career in the playoffs, .278/.333/.335

    He had three good games during the entire playoffs. He was dog **** awful like usual in the NLDS, NLCS, and the first two games of the World Series.

    Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.

    Quote Originally Posted by OrangePuck
    lol...I think we already clashed on the Vlad MVP thing. We got stuck on the value of protection in the lineup if I remember correctly. We'll just have to agree to disagree.
    Yes, and as soon as I asked you "Why can Vlad hit in the regular season with that lineup and not hit in the playoffs?" you seemed to disappear.

    Yeah, no bias whatsoever.
    Last edited by Hoya; December 6th, 2007 at 01:32 PM.

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    Holy logic, batman!

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    David Eckstein is so good at baseball that the Cardinals replaced him with Cesar Izturis. LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbruin152 View Post
    Yes, and as soon as I asked you "Why can Vlad hit in the regular season with that lineup and not hit in the playoffs?" you seemed to disappear.

    Yeah, no bias whatsoever.
    Simple. In 2004 the Angels kicked Guillen off of the team. He provided the lineup protection that helped Vlad win the MVP that season.

    I don't remember 2005 all to well to be honest. I had a lot going on that time of year and the MLB playoffs were a bit of a fog to me.

    2007... did you see who was batting behind Vlad? Vlad's injury problems aside he had one-eyed Garret Anderson batting behind him. My freaking God. The Angels were so banged up that they didn't field their real team against Boston. Matthews Jr. didn't even play. Garret had pink eye in his right eye which is the worst for a left handed hitter.

    I also have to give credit to Boston's pitching especially Beckett. He proved that regardless of who he was facing he would shutdown any lineup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangePuck
    Simple. In 2004 the Angels kicked Guillen off of the team. He provided the lineup protection that helped Vlad win the MVP that season.
    Vlad season OPS, since 2000

    '00 MTL 1.074 (no "protection")
    '01 MTL .943 (no "protection")
    '02 MTL 1.010 (no "protection")
    '03 MTL 1.012 (no "protection")
    '04 ANA .989 (Jose Guillen "protection", postseason OPS ~.700)
    '05 LAA .959 (no "protection", postseason OPS ~.400)
    '06 LAA .934 (no "protection")
    '07 LAA .950 (no "protection", postseason OPS .533)

    Quote Originally Posted by OrangePuck
    I don't remember 2005 all to well to be honest. I had a lot going on that time of year and the MLB playoffs were a bit of a fog to me.
    So basically, the 2005 playoffs never happened. Got it.

    Quote Originally Posted by OrangePuck
    2007... did you see who was batting behind Vlad? Vlad's injury problems aside he had one-eyed Garret Anderson batting behind him. My freaking God. The Angels were so banged up that they didn't field their real team against Boston. Matthews Jr. didn't even play. Garret had pink eye in his right eye which is the worst for a left handed hitter.
    So Vlad didn't hit because Gary Matthews Jr. wasn't playing.

    Gary. Matthews. Junior.

    Quote Originally Posted by OrangePuck
    I also have to give credit to Boston's pitching especially Beckett. He proved that regardless of who he was facing he would shutdown any lineup.
    Hey look, logic! Why doesn't this apply to other players also?
    Last edited by Hoya; December 6th, 2007 at 02:01 PM.

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