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Hitting him at full speed, yeah I get. It's a matter of microseconds. The push, shove, and follow through, is where I think they expect better.

I'm surprised anyone is defending it tbh. When he went for the hit the positioning was okay, but the game moves fast and the player turned. So the...

No suspension Lindgren with a brutal cross check should of got 5 too

Hockey has gotten faster almost every year. 2001 (your join date) is considered "old days" for all practical purposes. Listening to Fox, Stoll, and...

I don't know about comparing youth hockey to the NHL. If a youth player bowled over a goalie the way Quick got bowled over it would be a suspension....

That's an interesting point and I think it cuts both ways. Since the game is so much faster it's even harder for players to pull up on a hit like...

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I will just say that most people defending his hit as clean are very clearly referencing a day when the game was a LOT slower. With higher speed...

I think we can go back and forth all day on what the turn means in this situation. I'm also not convinced that a turn should have ever been the...

I do think we are on opposite sides in general of the purpose of hitting in hockey. I'm not immune to the excitement of it, nor the purposes of it....

Yeah maybe instead of "ceiling" I could have stated "best case scenario" haha. Time will tell but you have a point - those stats will be very...

But whether he dishes it or not is irrelevant; if gets hit just after he gets rid of the puck, it is still a clean hit because it would have come...

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But if you look at santiclaws's screen grab, Lindgren's shoulder is facing Lemieux. By the time Lemieux hit him, he'd turned so his numbers were...

Thank you. Big fine is my dream. 3 games max is my hope. Could be more if they look at him like a Tom Wilson-type... Whatever the outcome, it was...

I don't get it, Lindgren kept doing exactly what he was doing, getting ready to dish it off on the backhand. I don't think its reasonable to expect a...

Fair enough, although lots of ginders have elite level hockey IQ like, say, Trevor Lewis. And while Turcotte has a good shot, can he translate it to...

Do you really think Turcotte can put up these numbers, which Richards did from age 22 - 26? 2007-08 Flyers NHL 73 28 47 75 2008-09...

Hey Jammer... See post #15 . (Guessed 5)...

Agreed. I was STOKED when they drafted him. And the almost unanimous consensus among talking heads was he was the right pick. Agreed. The...

Haha I totally get where you are coming from and expected to be flamed for that comment. Thanks for being kind in the process :) I agree,...

I thought we already agreed that Turcotte's ceiling is Richards? Which imo is pretty accurate... JT - I think the Toews comp is is in the...

Concerned? Yeah. But if he wasn't he either 1. wouldn't be available or 2. would cost what Karlsson cost. But that's where the Kings have to do...

Turcotte is not the professor. I watched Turcotte at rookie camp after he was drafted and he stood out. The skill and hustle was obvious to see even...

Your analysis of Lindgren's position is spot on. I've reffed and it's a hard play to call but it's unreasonable to expect players playing at full...