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jerseydevil
May 31st, 2011, 10:14 AM
Your place for Mad Men/Breaking Bad/The Killing/The Walking Dead,etc.

BREAKING BAD Season Four Trailer (http://collider.com/breaking-bad-season-four-trailer/93793/)

The long wait is almost over.


AMC ANNOUNCES “BREAKING BAD” SEASON FOUR PREMIERE SUNDAY, JULY 17 AT 10PM ET/PT



All Episodes from Series’ Third Season Available On Demand Beginning June 20

New Interactive Graphic Novel and Other Exclusive Content on AMCTV.com



New York – May 31, 2011 – AMC will premiere the highly anticipated fourth season of its Emmy? Award-winning series “Breaking Bad” on Sunday, July 17 at 10pm ET/PT. From acclaimed writer/producer/director Vince Gilligan and produced by Sony Pictures Television, the series follows the story of a desperate man who turns to a life of crime to secure his family’s financial security. Season four consists of 13, one-hour episodes.

Over three seasons, “Breaking Bad” has been heralded as one of the best TV dramas on television. The San Francisco Chronicle hailed “the writing is among the very elite in television,” with others calling the show “mesmerizing” (LA Times), “still TV’s best” (Newsday) and a drama that has the “jarring feel of a Tarantino film” (Variety).

Leading into season four’s highly anticipated premiere, fans will have a chance to catch up on “Breaking Bad,” as all episodes from season three will be available On Demand beginning Monday, June 20 through Sunday, July 17. In addition, AMC will air every episode from seasons one through three in late night, beginning Tuesday, July 5. Breaking Bad: The Complete Third Season will be released to Blu-ray™ and DVD on Tuesday, June 7 packed with special features, including deleted scenes, outtakes, cast and crew commentaries, plus five all-new behind-the-scenes featurettes, and much more.

“Breaking Bad” season four will also be complemented by a variety of exclusive material on AMCTV.COM. Among the special digital content is “Inside Breaking Bad” videos for each episode, behind-the-scenes clips throughout the season, and videos of the season’s most “Talked About Scenes.” The site will also feature a new iteration of its interactive graphic novel, starring Aaron Paul’s character Jesse Pinkman, and an interactive case file – with photos, text and video – that allows visitors to sift through the same crime scene evidence that DEA agent Hank Schrader (Dean Norris) sees and reviews.

jerseydevil
June 1st, 2011, 12:34 AM
Frank Darabont Talks Potential Budget Cuts for The Walking Dead | Horror Movie, DVD, & Book Reviews, News, Interviews at Dread Central (http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/44770/frank-darabont-talks-potential-budget-cut-walking-dead)


Earlier today we got word confirming that AMC's "The Walking Dead" is heading to Hershel's Farm in Season Two, but now, after hearing showrunner Frank Darabont talk about potential budget cuts looming for the show, we have to wonder if all the bells and whistles we're hoping for once it gets there will remain intact.

During The Hollywood Reporter?s annual drama showrunner Emmy roundtable, "The Walking Dead" writer-producer specifically addressed the budget on his hit AMC zombie drama, which he says is in jeopardy of being cut.

?Creatively I have no complaints thus far,? Darabont says. ?But I believe if they do move ahead with what they?re talking about, it will affect the show creatively ... in a negative way. Which just strikes me as odd. If you have an asset, why would you punish it??

jerseydevil
June 1st, 2011, 11:44 PM
Give Darabont His Budget! | CHUD.com (http://www.chud.com/55157/give-darabont-his-budget/)

This is VERY troubling. Are you insane AMC? I realize Darabont may be asking for a lot...but do you really think you can afford to question him. People are already watching AMC on the off chance that the new season will start unannounced. Penny wise Pound foolish.

jerseydevil
June 1st, 2011, 11:55 PM
Bryan Cranston Interview BREAKING BAD Season 3 and 4, TOTAL RECALL, DRIVE (http://collider.com/bryan-cranston-interview-breaking-bad-total-recall-drive/94188/)

santiclaws
June 2nd, 2011, 08:22 AM
I really need to check out "Breaking Bad." Anyone know if all the episodes are available somewhere?

adgy-san
June 2nd, 2011, 08:32 AM
I really need to check out "Breaking Bad." Anyone know if all the episodes are available somewhere?

On DVD/Blu-Ray. mhihi:

jerseydevil
June 7th, 2011, 06:21 AM
SEASON THREE:OUT TODAY!!!!!!

Get caught up folks!!!!!!:nightstick:

jerseydevil
June 7th, 2011, 09:46 PM
BBC - Newsbeat - Jon Hamm says Mad Men hold-up 'no one's fault' (http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/13680805)

Damien C
June 8th, 2011, 07:46 AM
Just got caught up on The Killing, watching some 6 or 7 episodes in the past few days. I'm really digging the slow burn effect so far, but I'm starting to get worried they're not going to solve the murder this season. IMO, that would be a mistake. As for the most recent episode, I loved the character development between the two detectives, but was disappointed that they completely ignored the politician and the family. Somehow I find my political story-line interesting, and the mom is so completely insane I love seeing her on the show so I can yell at her and imagine kicking her in the head. I used to think the dad's moving partner was the killer, but now I'm not so sure.

Anyways, just wanted to put some thoughts out there. Anyone else?

jerseydevil
June 8th, 2011, 10:15 AM
There was a pretty active Killing thread back in the day. The folks that could deal with the methodical pace loved it, those that didn't, well...didn't. I love it. I don't know if it will be good for more than a one and done though. If they do solve the murder, all the momentum they have built up dissapates and they start from square one. If they don't...well, Twin Peaks.

jerseydevil
June 8th, 2011, 10:33 AM
First Look: The zombies of The Walking Dead season 2 - HitFix.com (http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/whats-alan-watching/posts/first-look-the-zombies-of-the-walking-dead-season-2)

chaingunsofdoom
June 12th, 2011, 01:58 PM
Caught up on 10 eps of The Killing this weekend. Only 2 to go and it will be resolved is my guess. Right now my guesses are either the Mayor's campaign (which would be out of the blue since there's no evidence) or the Councillor's campaign team. First clip tonight better be at the casino...

chaingunsofdoom
June 13th, 2011, 06:33 AM
Really good ep last night. "Ding. Send it again!"
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adgy-san
June 13th, 2011, 11:15 AM
Amazon is currently selling Season 2 of Breaking Bad for $16.49.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/517QUvXFIPL._.jpg

Amazon.com: Breaking Bad: The Complete Second Season [Blu-ray]: Bryan Cranston, Aaron Paul, Anna Gunn, Dean Norris: Movies & TV

santiclaws
June 13th, 2011, 11:25 AM
Really good ep last night. "Ding. Send it again!"
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I'm surprised the big reveal was in the next-to-last episode. Although it is not entirely out of the realm of possibility that there's still another twist in the road next week.

jerseydevil
June 13th, 2011, 01:37 PM
'The Killing' renewed for second season | Inside TV | EW.com (http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/06/13/the-killing-renewed/)

jerseydevil
June 17th, 2011, 12:37 PM
Robert Kirkman Talks The Walking Dead Season Two | Horror Movie, DVD, & Book Reviews, News, Interviews at Dread Central (http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/45059/robert-kirkman-talks-walking-dead-season-two)

jerseydevil
June 17th, 2011, 12:52 PM
Exclusive: Three Breaking Bad Season 4 Images - HitFix.com (http://www.hitfix.com/galleries/exclusive-three-breaking-bad-season-4-images)

jerseydevil
June 18th, 2011, 10:54 AM
DVD REVIEW: BREAKING BAD: SEASON 3 | CHUD.com (http://www.chud.com/57349/dvd-review-breaking-bad-season-3/)


The best written and acted show on television returns for a third season, and it?s more violent and satisfying than ever. I promise.

jerseydevil
June 18th, 2011, 08:24 PM
Haven't read this yet either...SPOILER ALERT BIGTIME!!!!!!

?Mitch Hasn?t Been Herself!!? Sunday Brings AMC?s First KILLING Finale!!
Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/50078)

chaingunsofdoom
June 19th, 2011, 10:01 PM
Very intense S1 finale. You knew something odd would happen...

jerseydevil
June 20th, 2011, 09:08 AM
Man, I thought the Killing was going for cheap closure...let's be honest, the fact that she happened to be in his apartment when he was getting an email to a super secret account(and he had the notification noise turned up loud enough for her to hear it a couple rooms away) was pretty far fetched. But the last five minutes was brilliant. I guess the plan is for the case to continue into season 2...tricky. Hopefully they can keep it relevent enough so that it does not turn into Twin Peaks(which everyone has compared this show favorably to...so far).

Kingsqueen
June 20th, 2011, 09:20 AM
Man, I thought the Killing was going for cheap closure...let's be honest, the fact that she happened to be in his apartment when he was getting an email to a super secret account(and he had the notification noise turned up loud enough for her to hear it a couple rooms away) was pretty far fetched. But the last five minutes was brilliant. I guess the plan is for the case to continue into season 2...tricky. Hopefully they can keep it relevent enough so that it does not turn into Twin Peaks(which everyone has compared this show favorably to...so far).


http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i257/HockeyRoxx/WhataTwist.jpg

jerseydevil
June 20th, 2011, 10:05 AM
Interview: The Killing showrunner Veena Sud on the season finale - HitFix.com (http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/whats-alan-watching/posts/interview-the-killing-showrunner-veena-sud-on-the-season-finale)

The Killing - Orpheus Descending: Reviewing the season finale - HitFix.com (http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/whats-alan-watching/posts/the-killing-orpheus-descending-reviewing-the-season-finale)


"The Killing" wrapped up its first season tonight. I interviewed showrunner Veena Sud about the season, and highly recommend you read that before we get to my review of the finale, as I'll be discussing what she said a lot. My review - with plentiful spoilers for the episode, of course - coming up just as soon as me doing math is like a dog wearing a hat...

When AMC announced the renewal of "The Killing," and that Veena Sud would remain in charge, I tried to be optimistic. The people who run AMC aren't dumb, I thought, and they know their brand and how the audience feels about it. If they were willing to make this move before airing the finale and seeing the reaction, it was because they had seen the final cut and thought it would quell a lot of the doubts people have had about the show, and/or because Sud had made a season 2 pitch for that acknowledged many of this season's missteps and talked smartly about how they would be eliminated going forward.

Having seen the finale, and now talked to Sud, not so much on either account. "Orpheus Descending" itself is a mess, and an insult to the audience who have stuck around for the last three months. And based on my conversation with Sud, it sounds like we're getting more of the same next year.

So this will be the last review I write of "The Killing," because this will be the last time I watch "The Killing." Because I have no interest in going forward with a show that treats its audience this way.

Wow, that's a little harsh. I actually loved the finale', but for some reason this how is an either love it or hate it proposition.

santiclaws
June 20th, 2011, 11:57 AM
They really threw us for a loop, although it is not entirely a surprise that they did. I guess the search for Rosie's killer continues...


Although it is not entirely out of the realm of possibility that there's still another twist in the road next week.

jerseydevil
June 20th, 2011, 04:14 PM
New Trailer and Images for BREAKING BAD Season 4 (http://collider.com/breaking-bad-season-4-trailer-images/97625/)

Gus the chicken man & Mike the 'fixer' rule, but i got a feeling they aren't long for this world.

jerseydevil
June 21st, 2011, 09:25 AM
The EMMY Campaign For MICHAEL ****ING ROOKER | CHUD.com (http://www.chud.com/57874/the-emmy-campaign-for-michael-****ing-rooker/)

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c179/rtbstrd1331/rooker.jpg

Dexter
June 21st, 2011, 06:08 PM
Walking Dead Exclusive: Mentalist's Pruitt Taylor Vince Cops First Season 2 Role - TVLine (http://www.tvline.com/2011/06/walking-dead-casting-pruitt-taylor-vince-otis/)

jerseydevil
June 21st, 2011, 06:36 PM
Walking Dead Exclusive: Mentalist's Pruitt Taylor Vince Cops First Season 2 Role - TVLine (http://www.tvline.com/2011/06/walking-dead-casting-pruitt-taylor-vince-otis/)

That's awesome PTV is so good and twitchy!

jerseydevil
June 22nd, 2011, 11:50 AM
Behind-the-Scenes Look at Season Two of THE WALKING DEAD (http://collider.com/the-walking-dead-behind-the-scenes-season-two/98032/)

jerseydevil
June 23rd, 2011, 09:58 AM
Darabont on Walking Dead, Writers Rumors - ShockTillYouDrop.com (http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=19679)


Darabont used the interview to clarify rumors that he canned all of his season one writers. "Let me just begin by stating the obvious: that it was all pretty overblown. It left the impression that I walked in one day and murdered 12 people. Would you like to know how many writers we were talking about? Two. My thought had been that they?d under-delivered, and a change was necessary. I had to do too much of it by myself last year, and that was only six episodes. This season, it?s 13 and we?ve hired a fantastic writing staff. We hired Glen Mazzara as our Number Two in the room. We consider him our head writer and he?s just a fantastic asset. We?ve also got three other staff writers in Scott Gimple, Evan Reilly from RESCUE ME, and Angela Kang. Plus Executive Producer Robert Kirkman, who wrote the original comic book, is also writing for us."

He also offered a taste of the mounting drama we'll see in the forthcoming season.

"It?s fair to say that the first six episodes were teeing up a lot of conflicts that will be more fully explored in our second season. We find a growing conflict with our two main guys, Rick [Andrew Lincoln] and Shane [Jon Bernthal]. We?re really excited about putting all of the characters on a chessboard and seeing how wonderfully and effectively we can toss conflict into the game."

jerseydevil
June 24th, 2011, 11:26 PM
Frank Darabont and Gale Anne Hurd Talk THE WALKING DEAD Season 2 and 3 (http://collider.com/frank-darabont-gale-anne-hurd-walking-dead-season-2-walking-dead-season-3/98717/)



?There?s no such thing as too big an axe. That?s the philosophy of the show, I?ve realized. There?s no such thing as too big an axe!?

This is how Academy Award-winner Frank Darabont describes his Saturn Award winning cable series, The Walking Dead, which will enter its? sophomore season this fall on AMC.

Darabont and producer Gale Anne Hurd were on hand at the 37th annual Saturn Awards Thursday night and after accepting their award for Best Television Presentation, the duo gave us a few minutes of their time to discuss the show?s second season, including details on Michonne, which Darabont says is coming in the third season. We also discuss films from the whole of Darabont?s career, debunk Nikki Finki?s rumor mill, get an peek into how killing a seven-year old became a mission statement for the show and more

Don't know about you guys, but Frank Darabont may be my fave person these days...

jerseydevil
June 24th, 2011, 11:35 PM
AMC The Killing Finale Reaction | Inside TV | EW.com (http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/06/24/the-killing-finale-response/)


AMC president and general manager Charlie Collier broke his silence on last week?s finale of The Killing, saying the network didn?t anticipate such a strong backlash among some viewers and critics.

?We underestimated the passion of viewers have for closure within this season,? Collier says. ?It was never our intention to misguide the viewer. The audience has an important voice, we heard them and don?t take them for granted.?

The critically acclaimed first season of The Killing teased viewers with the tagline for its central mystery ?Who Killed Rosie Larsen?? then declined to solve the case in the finale, instead rolling the story into next season in a last-minute twist. The show plans to introduce a new mystery at the start of season 2 and then solve the Larsen case.

Collier spearheaded the network?s rise to become a top outlet for quality drama series, ordering shows like Mad Men, Breaking Bad, and The Walking Dead. He says if the network could have done anything differently, it would have been to do more to prevent viewers from expecting the murder to be solved in the season closer. ?I stand by [showrunner] Veena Sud, and risk-taking is what we do; cliffhangers are a staple of TV and a huge part of mysteries,? Collier says. ?If I could do anything differently, it would be to manage expectations.?


The whole backlash has been really confusing to me. You want closure???? Then what???? I will admit that the Killing had a couple of missteps late in the game, but there is a fine line. Closure basically means one and done...no way they can wratchet up the drama to the point anyone would care or buy it with a brand new case. I cannot wait for this to restart. Does she get off the plane? Who is pulling Holder's strings??? Who killed Rosie? Is the councilman dead? Where's Mitch gone???? Some of the strongest supporters of this show have jumped ship...to me, that means this show is ****ing with peoples heads. It was such a quiet show...in the space of 5 minutes it pissed so many people off.

jerseydevil
June 24th, 2011, 11:46 PM
Well...spoiler alert


Interview: Vince Gilligan Talks BREAKING BAD Season 4 & Season 5 at the Saturn Awards 2011 (http://collider.com/vince-gilligan-interview-breaking-bad-season-4-season-5/98548/)


“I would like to see Breaking Bad go—it kinda changes if you ask me last season or the season before versus this one, but right now I would say season five should probably be our last season. But you know, check with me a year from now, we’ll see if I change my tune.”

WaitWhat...hey adgy...just finished reading this, they want to get Herzog to direct an episode...brilliant.

jerseydevil
June 26th, 2011, 09:12 PM
'The Walking Dead': Scott Wilson, 'Supernatural's' Lauren Cohan join cast - From Inside the Box - Zap2it (http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2011/06/the-walking-dead-scott-wilson-supernaturals-lauren-cohen-join-cast.html)

oh hell yeah, Scott Wilson is AWESOME.

jerseydevil
June 30th, 2011, 10:09 AM
The Walking Dead: Dispatches from the Set with Frank Darabont | Horror Movie, DVD, & Book Reviews, News, Interviews at Dread Central (http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/45336/walking-dead-dispatches-set-frank-darabont)

jerseydevil
July 7th, 2011, 10:47 PM
YouTube - ‪Primeiro Comercial da 2? Temporada de The Walking Dead‬‏

First Trailer For Walking Dead Season 2 Makes A Promise Bleeding Cool Comic Book, Movies and TV News and Rumors (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/07/07/first-trailer-for-walking-dead-season-2-makes-a-promise/)

Sure that is gonna hit with BREAKING BAD this weekend, sure would look good in HD, oh but wait, DirecTv still only offers AMC in standard def. Thanks *******s.

jerseydevil
July 13th, 2011, 12:50 PM
Get a First Look at Season 2 of THE WALKING DEAD During this Sunday’s Season Premiere of BREAKING BAD (http://collider.com/walking-dead-season-2-first-look-breaking-bad/102144/)

jerseydevil
July 13th, 2011, 02:59 PM
OhMAn I got chills...Can't freaking wait!!!!!

Review: AMCs Breaking Bad still brilliant in season 4 - HitFix.com (http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/whats-alan-watching/posts/review-amcs-breaking-bad-still-brilliant-in-season-4)

very mild spoilers




There are times when the season premiere feels like an hour-long version of that agonizing sequence in season three's "One Minute" where Hank is told the Cousins are coming for him sometime in the next 60 seconds. It's an hour dominated by silence and waiting, and is so patient in pursuing its goals that I actually started giggling at one point when I realized just how committed the creative team was to making the audience hold its breath.

And then there are times in the later episodes where Walt almost feels like a supporting character on his own show, or at least just another member of a great ensemble - when we spend extra time with Skyler, or Hank's troubled wife Marie (Betsy Brandt), or Gus's right-hand man Mike (Jonathan Banks) - and it doesn't feel like we're getting cheated out of our rightful allotment of Cranston.

"Breaking Bad" is about the rot that takes place in Walt's soul as he goes deeper into the criminal world, but it's also about the corrosive effect he has on those around him. He wrecked his marriage, turned Jesse from a casual dealer into a hardcore criminal and is responsible for Hank getting shot and paralyzed and so many deaths that I've lost count. Magnificent as Cranston is, as riveting a character was Walt is, it's important to truly understand the people he's hurting, to feel the weight of his actions.

Perhaps the best glimpse into the effect Walter has on others comes in a look on the face of Mike in one of the early episodes. Since Banks joined the cast - one of three brilliant mid-series additions, along with Esposito as the implacably cool Gus and Bob Odenkirk as Walt and Jesse's shameless lawyer Saul Goodman - Mike has been presented as a tough customer who's seen it all and is fazed by exactly none of it. But there's a moment where he has a look on his face that screams, "What the hell just happened, and how did we get involved with this lunatic Walter White?" He is startled, and shaken, and for a brief moment not at all the ultimate professional who has an answer for every situation.

And in that moment of shock and horror, Mike has an expression that I imagine has been on the face of every "Breaking Bad" fan at some point or other - that feeling of "Did I really just see what I think I saw?" - only without the joy that we take in seeing this series performing at a high level that few dramas in the history of the medium have achieved.

Kingsqueen
July 17th, 2011, 09:17 PM
Don't forget season 4 of BREAKING BAD starts tonight! :popcorn:

jerseydevil
July 18th, 2011, 09:08 AM
‪The Walking Dead Season 2 - First Look (HD)‬‏ - YouTube

First Footage From Walking Dead Season 2 Is Red Band Stuff Bleeding Cool Comic Book, Movies and TV News and Rumors (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/07/18/first-footage-from-walking-dead-season-2-is-red-band-stuff/)

jerseydevil
July 19th, 2011, 09:34 AM
What? Nobody is gonna weigh in on Breaking Bad...?


SPOILERS



First off...poor Gale. Nice guy, but like Walt said "he's gonna lose everytime" The chicken man scene was pretty awesome with it's deliberate pace and Walt almost pleading...it was nice to see Walt with a little bit of fear again. He's getting a little too far into the 'outlaw' persona. Kinda figured the nameless lab assistant was not long for things when Mike asked him if he had been seen, so that kind of blunted the chicken man sequence(cause you knew what was going to happen). Still love Saul, and the crazy paranoia suits him well.Jesse's moment of clarity was pretty telling and a good sign of things to come. Walt's wife is really unlikeable and Hank's story is a little predictable so far. I fully expect things to ramp up as this show always does, all in all it was a great start.

adgy-san
July 20th, 2011, 08:56 PM
Full Details For The Walking Dead Special Edition Discs – And, Yes, That Includes A B&W Alternative Bleeding Cool Comic Book, Movies and TV News and Rumors (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/07/20/full-details-for-the-walking-dead-special-edition-discs-and-yes-that-includes-a-bw-alternative/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BleedingCool+%28Bleeding+Cool +Comic+News+%26+Rumors%29&utm_content=Google+Reader)

http://www.bleedingcool.com/wp-content/uploads//2011/07/wd-bd.jpg

All of a sudden, I'm REALLY glad I never got around to buying the 1st season.

Palffy3314
July 20th, 2011, 09:16 PM
I can't wait for season 2 of TWD. Finally caught up to date in the comics and I ****ing love it.

adgy-san
July 20th, 2011, 09:28 PM
I don't care what JD says, the comics ****ing rule!

Palffy3314
July 20th, 2011, 10:24 PM
I don't care what JD says, the comics ****ing rule!

The Woodbury arc was my favorite part, I did not expect that at all. I hope the show follows the comics, because they are great.

jerseydevil
July 22nd, 2011, 10:52 PM
Comic-Con: Laurie Holden, Norman Reedus, and Gale Anne Hurd Interview THE WALKING DEAD (http://collider.com/laurie-holden-norman-reedus-gale-anne-hurd-interview-the-walking-dead/104444/)

lunchbox
July 23rd, 2011, 02:58 AM
i just started watching breaking bad, watched the last 4 episodes of season 3 and watched the 4th season's premiere, and it is FANTASTIC!

jerseydevil
July 23rd, 2011, 06:02 AM
38 Minutes Of Video From The Walking Dead Panel Bleeding Cool Comic Book, Movies and TV News and Rumors (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/07/23/38-minutes-of-video-from-the-walking-dead-panel/)

Bogey
July 23rd, 2011, 07:53 AM
i just started watching breaking bad, watched the last 4 episodes of season 3 and watched the 4th season's premiere, and it is FANTASTIC!
Yeah it was.

Has the show not caught on here?

santiclaws
July 23rd, 2011, 09:44 AM
I'm up to episode 5 of season 2, what a great freaking show. Took 2 or 3 shows to really get going, but now it has really hit its stride. The only problem is that once I catch up, I'll really miss being able to watch a show every day.

Dexter
July 26th, 2011, 06:36 PM
Report: Walking Dead Showrunner Steps Down - TVLine (http://www.tvline.com/2011/07/shocker-walking-dead-showrunner-steps-down/)

Sucky.

jerseydevil
July 26th, 2011, 07:00 PM
Report: Walking Dead Showrunner Steps Down - TVLine (http://www.tvline.com/2011/07/shocker-walking-dead-showrunner-steps-down/)

Sucky.

Just read something else speculating that he may still stay on in some capacity. Early guesses are that the pressure of producing 13 episodes, in the compressed tv-as-opposed-to-feature-films world, got to be too much. Hopefully this will not effect things. I fully expect them to get an accomplished showrunner to step in.

Creeping Death
July 26th, 2011, 08:50 PM
Thats terrible news about Frank. I believe there were budgeting issues before they started shooting Season 2 that was causing some problems. I wonder if Frank wanted to run wild and AMC tried to reel him in.

I just hope TWD can continue on in its current state. I would be quite disappointed if it jumps the shark in Season 2!

jerseydevil
July 27th, 2011, 07:45 AM
Thats terrible news about Frank. I believe there were budgeting issues before they started shooting Season 2 that was causing some problems. I wonder if Frank wanted to run wild and AMC tried to reel him in.

I just hope TWD can continue on in its current state. I would be quite disappointed if it jumps the shark in Season 2!

Yeah he was already grousing before the shooting started. I'd almost guarantee that Gale Anne Hurd and AMC are fiercely aware of how important it is for them to get a bonafide guy to step in. The scripts(I think) were mostly done. We will see in the next few days if Darabont stays on as a producer or something...that will be the real test.

adgy-san
July 27th, 2011, 09:53 AM
Interesting...

SuperCalo2000
July 27th, 2011, 09:57 AM
Mad Men is now on Netflix streaming. Yes ! I can finally watch the whole sha-bang-a-bang.

adgy-san
July 27th, 2011, 03:04 PM
'Walking Dead' Gets a New Showrunner | TheWrap TV (http://www.thewrap.com/tv/article/walking-dead-gets-new-showrunner-29509)


Glen Mazzara will replace Frank Darabont as the showrunner of AMC's "The Walking Dead," a person close to the show confirms to TheWrap.

Mazzara, a former executive producer of "HawthRNe" and "The Shield," joined "Walking Dead" for the second season of the critically acclaimed, hit zombie drama, which debuts Oct. 16.

jerseydevil
July 27th, 2011, 03:35 PM
I think this was in the works and they put a brave face on for SDCC. Anyone who worked 'the Shield' is bonafide in my opinion. Now we just need to see if Darabont continues to be associated with the show. If he walks away completely then there is more of a story behind the scenes.

roenick
July 27th, 2011, 08:17 PM
Not really sure what to think of Darabont leaving. He brought such a joy to this show in terms of his enthusiasm for the content. Really not sure what to make of it all. Agree that a person from The Shield will help and has instant credibility but man this is disappointing.

jerseydevil
July 27th, 2011, 09:22 PM
Not really sure what to think of Darabont leaving. He brought such a joy to this show in terms of his enthusiasm for the content. Really not sure what to make of it all. Agree that a person from The Shield will help and has instant credibility but man this is disappointing.

I think Darabont lost a LOT of his enthusiasm when he realized that he could not bring MOVIE sensibilities to a TV show. Hopefully he will stay on in a reduced role and continue to share his passion for this. One way or another I think it was a necessary move for FD and the show, maybe now he can just concentrate on the ideas of the show and not be brought down by the day to day comprimises that need to be made. The fact that Mazzara is 'part of the family' already(he wrote one of the last eps last season) means that it should be seamless. I really think this is more of a headline than a cause for concern.

jerseydevil
July 27th, 2011, 10:07 PM
Glen Mazzara is Your New ?The Walking Dead? Showrunner | /Film (http://www.slashfilm.com/glen-mazzarra-the-walking-dead-showrunner/)


Last night a bombshell hit The Walking Dead: Frank Darabont, who launched the show along with The Walking Dead comic writer Robert Kirkman and producer Gale Anne Hurd, stepped down as showrunner as the series is in the middle of shooting its second season. We were told that there would be no significant interruption in production. To achieve that, a new showrunner has already been named: Glen Mazzara, who wrote for the first season and was hired as Frank Darabont?s right-hand man for season 2.


Deadline breaks the news, quoting an interview with Mr. Darabont from about a month back in which he spoke about Glen Mazzara?s hire: We hired Glen Mazzara as our Number Two in the room? We consider him our head writer and he?s just a fantastic asset.? Mr. Mazzara wrote the first season episode ?Wildfire,? and was a writer/producer on The Shield, Crash, Hawthorne and Criminal Minds: Suspect Behavior.


Think that he was being groomed from the get go and FD just had to get out.

jerseydevil
July 28th, 2011, 12:40 PM
Greg Nicotero to Direct Walking Dead Webisodes | Horror Movie, DVD, & Book Reviews, News, Interviews at Dread Central (http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/46008/greg-nicotero-direct-walking-dead-webisodes)

santiclaws
July 28th, 2011, 03:09 PM
http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/178817_460s.jpg

jerseydevil
July 29th, 2011, 09:50 AM
SPOILERS


This weeks episode of Breaking Bad was a mixed bag. The loss of humanity in Walt has been very hard to deal with. The show worked before because he was a good man forced to do bad things. Now you have to question that. His wife is a shrew. Really unlikeable. Calling into question why he would have done anything at all for her. Hank and his wife, that is actually more interesting. Kind of cliche, but still well done. The biggest revelation though is Mike the fixer. Having seen how disposable he is I think he is beginning to question a life of violence and questionable morals he just seemed to accept as necessary. Sadly I think his story is going to end with him making a Vader like choice. He's like the anti-Walt and easily the most sympathetic character on the show. Not bad 2 episodes in and this show always gathers momentum the closer it gets to the finale.

adgy-san
July 29th, 2011, 11:09 AM
Tim Bradstreet’s Poster For Walking Dead Series 2 Bleeding Cool Comic Book, Movies and TV News and Rumors (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/07/22/tim-bradstreets-poster-for-walking-dead-series-2/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BleedingCool+%28Bleeding+Cool +Comic+News+%26+Rumors%29&utm_content=Google+Reader)

http://www.bleedingcool.com/wp-content/uploads//2011/07/tim-bradstreet-walking-dead-poster.jpg

I love Bradstreet's work.

jerseydevil
July 31st, 2011, 05:09 PM
The Walking Dead Rushes Special Bleeding Cool Comic Book, Movies and TV News and Rumors (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/07/31/the-walking-dead-rushes-special/)

jerseydevil
July 31st, 2011, 05:13 PM
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c179/rtbstrd1331/walking-dead-elevator-600x800.jpg

The elevators at, I believe, The Hilton, during sdcc...

jerseydevil
July 31st, 2011, 06:16 PM
?I?m Gonna Go On Record And Say This Is A Bad Idea!!? Hercules Enthusiastically Endorses BREAKING BAD 4.3!!
Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/50621)

:target:Mike the Fixer rules!!!!:target:

jerseydevil
August 1st, 2011, 12:46 PM
BREAKING BAD Recap: “Open House” (http://collider.com/breaking-bad-recap-open-house/106893/)


Really good breakdown of the season so far...

AND SPOILERS












I was thinking the same thing about Jesse. They can only bring a guy to the edge so many times before he almost has to go over. With Hank getting involved and the revelations in the preview for next week that has Walt saying 'they found fingerprints' it seems inevitable that there is going to be a considerable body count at the end of this season. And we all know that Vince Gilligan will have no trouble doing an Eddard Stark and taking out an important character. Good stuff.

jerseydevil
August 2nd, 2011, 09:23 AM
Excellent Extended Trailer For ‘The Walking Dead’ Season 2 Released | Geeks of Doom (http://geeksofdoom.com/2011/08/01/excellent-extended-trailer-for-the-walking-dead-season-2-released/)

Troubling news...

Steady Leak: Great Shows, Stingy Network | CHUD.com (http://www.chud.com/62781/steady-leak-great-shows-stingy-networks/)


Now comes Breaking Bad (my extensive recent coverage). A juggernaut of a show that has showcased nearly perfect consistency and quality from episode one to this past Sunday?s romp. The show?s creator has said that the next season may be its last. For creative reasons, as a show about this subject has a definitely arc and to run it into the ground would scuttle so much great work. AMC has another golden goose with the show. Its ratings have grown, which is terrific. It?s a critic?s darling, which is terrific. It?s an awards magnet, which is terrific. It is ?must see? television, which is terrific. It?s not The Killing, which is terrific.

Cue news (LA Times, The Hollywood Reporter) about the show running into trouble.

Yep, budget issues. Network pressure to trim the episode load. Stupid ****. AMC, what in the name of Dr. Giggles are you thinking? You have a massive hit in the zombie show. You have two of the best television shows EVER in your current queue with the creative team intact and energized and at least another year of guaranteed television gold ahead. You?ve pawned the overly expensive Damages off to Direct TV. You felt so good about The Killing that you renewed its mangy ass for another year.

It?s sit back and admire the breadth of your domain time, not open up the ledger and squeeze pennies out. In reality The Killing shouldn?t be an issue here. I?m ripping it because I hate it and it deserves it. The issue should be that a network has a very diverse array of successful properties, some for material and some for their handle on the zeitgeist. That is a recipe to MAKE money, not a beacon to ruin all that progress over it.

AMC had better get right because it?s a very vital corner of the dramatic television world and believe you me? HBO and Showtime and FX have been paying attention. They?re in this business to win it and they have the horses to pull it off. AMC is no worse a network. It?s time to step up and show it.


The guy needs to check his math because Damages was an Fx show.

jerseydevil
August 2nd, 2011, 09:52 AM
and more...

BREAKING BAD May Leave AMC for Season 5 (http://collider.com/breaking-bad-season-5-amc/107091/)


If you?d like to save some time, the answer to the headline is, ?No, probably not.? But the chance that Breaking Bad will go off-network for season five is greater than zero. Talks are ongoing between AMC and Sony Television to produce another season at the network. AMC proposed an order of six to eight episodes rather than the normal thirteen; the creative team promptly rejected that offer.

Sources inform the LA Times Sony ?sent feelers to at least three other cable networks? in a move that is likely equal parts negotiating tactic and backup plan. More after the jump:



AMC has previously had trouble locking down Mad Men. In the initial struggle, I attributed that mostly to creator Matthew Weiner, who was seeking an unprecedented deal for a writer/producer on a basic cable show. You could attribute the subsequent breakdown over season five negotiations to Weiner again, especially since he ended up with $30 million for three more seasons. Then word leaked about budget cuts on The Walking Dead which, unlike Breaking Bad and Mad Men, is an unqualified commercial hit for the network. Couple this news with the announcement that Frank Darabont had stepped down as Walking Dead showrunner ? not to mention the fact that the Killing finale sucked ? and it?s clear not all is well at the American Movie Channel. AMC is starting to develop a reputation as the Marvel of the TV world: quality product, but tough negotiators.

To reiterate, the acclaimed drama will almost certainly stay at AMC. What intrigues me is creator Vince Gilligan?s flexibility on the scope of the series. The initial plan (purportedly) was a four season arc. Given the negotiations, that has obviously been extended to at least five seasons. As the Times notes, it?s unlikely any outside network would sign up for a one-and-done ? if the show does go to another network, we may expect at least two more seasons.

By the way, any guesses for the three networks? Breaking Bad would be a great fit for FX, though I don?t know they?d be interested. I bet Starz got a call ? that would be good for exposure as they try to develop into a major player among premium cable networks. Nothing else fits quite so well, though you might as well ask HBO if you?re sending out resumes.


The powers that be @ AMC need to be given their walking papers...

jerseydevil
August 3rd, 2011, 09:55 PM
AMC President Charlie Collier on The Walking Dead Season 2 Budget | Horror Movie, DVD, & Book Reviews, News, Interviews at Dread Central (http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/46176/amc-president-charlie-collier-walking-dead-season-2-budget)


Speculation has been swirling as to why Frank Darabont stepped down as showrunner of AMC's "The Walking Dead": Was it creative differences? The budget the network was offering? Well, AMC President Charlie Collier spoke with Deadline today and did a bit of dancing around the issue. Read on for the details and tell us what you think he's saying.

Q: Did you cut the budget on "The Walking Dead" in Season 2?

Collier: If you look at pilot budgets vs. pattern budgets, usually the pilot budget is much higher than what ends up being the pattern budget. With "The Walking Dead", instead of doing a pilot, we went straight to 6 episodes because we believed in the team and the talent in front and behind the camera. Then we came back with a 13-episode second season, and amortization over 13 episodes is very different than over 6. But we settled into one of the highest pattern budgets for a basic cable series.

Q: So the overall budget for Season 2 is lower than Season 1 because of the amortization factor?

Collier: We went straight to series with the first season serving in many ways as a pilot, and then we have settled into a 13-episode pattern budget.

See what we mean? Dancing.


Wow, is anyone else reminded of Martin Short on the 6o minutes Saturday Night Live sketch, smoking and sweating and twitching????

jerseydevil
August 10th, 2011, 03:51 PM
The ugly truth comes out about Darabont & The Walking Dead | CHUD.com (http://www.chud.com/63740/the-ugly-truth-comes-out-about-darabont-the-walking-dead/)


Holy crap. Check out this article in the Hollywood Reporter. It details the savage firing of Frank Darabont from the successful show he shepherded into production last year, AMC?s The Walking Dead. To summarize, he was fired for trying to fix an episode the network had deemed unfixable. Obviously, they waited to can him until after he had promoted the show at Comic Con. Ruthless. Also, the cast is terrified to say anything to the press for fear of getting sacked (it?s a zombie show, they are all expendable) and Darabont isn?t talking until his final settlement is negotiated.

Darabont isn?t known for keeping mum about things that piss him off, so expect the fine details to emerge eventually. What this means for the show is anyone?s guess, and I know a lot of people had problems with the first season, but I kind of doubt Darabont?s leadership was one of them. I can?t imagine a terrified cast (although it is a horror show) and a messy showrunner changeover like this will help, but who knows. I?m sure lots of crazy **** has gone down on shows before that didn?t interfere with the quality of the episodes. But still, this is a nasty bit of business, that?s for sure.

I?m going to go on record and say regardless of how it affects the show, this sucks. Boo AMC.




Wow.

jerseydevil
August 10th, 2011, 03:59 PM
Wowza, Darabont Fired from Walking Dead? - ShockTillYouDrop.com (http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=20445)


Everyone was a bit taken aback when news broke Frank Darabont departed The Walking Dead.

Some speculated he had a feature film coming up and he need to make time for that, but THR did some digging. According to the trade paper, Darabont was fired. The cast and crew were separately informed and, says THR, they're afraid to speak about the situation because AMC is being rather aggressive about keeping the firing under wraps.

THR says Darabont was fired after trying to salvage an episode in which the footage - from another director - was deemed unusable. More from THR's article: "What remains a central mystery, even to those closely involved, is what triggered AMC's move to fire Darabont. As noted, AMC's decision to cut the budget dated to the previous fall, when the network instructed Darabont to produce 13 episodes for a second season, up from six for the first season, for less money. Not only would the show get a lower budget, but AMC also decided that Walking Dead would no longer reap the benefit of a 30 percent tax credit per episode that came with filming in Georgia. Now the network was going to hold on to that money."

Is the show facing a financial crisis? Did AMC bite off more than it could chew? It's an interesting read, folks

jerseydevil
August 10th, 2011, 04:02 PM
'The Walking Dead': What Really Happened to Fired Showrunner Frank Darabont - The Hollywood Reporter (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/walking-dead-what-happened-fired-221449)

The original article. Man oh man...AMC is blowing things across the board.

adgy-san
August 10th, 2011, 04:16 PM
What the ****?

WHY???????

jerseydevil
August 10th, 2011, 04:58 PM
What the ****?

WHY???????

Because AMC is clearly in over their heads. They are compounding this by making 'my way or the highway' type decisions. Too much success too soon...they need to take a page from Langraffs book over at Fx. That guy knows how to run a network.

adgy-san
August 10th, 2011, 04:59 PM
Because AMC is clearly in over their heads. They are compounding this by making 'my way or the highway' type decisions. Too much success too soon...they need to take a page from Langraffs book over at Fx. That guy knows how to run a network.

Well, if that's the case then, I hate to say it, but **** them.

roenick
August 10th, 2011, 07:40 PM
Totally agree with you JD and Adgy. Screw AMC. This ticks me off to no end. I knew there was more to this whole Darabont thing. There is no way that guy, with the raw love and enthusiasm he showed for the core material, was going to quit without a big deal. He obviously is waiting to get his final settlement before saying anything. I predict this won't end well for AMC. I hope they don't screw TWD up but I bet they will.

You are dead right JD. AMC is in WAY OVER THEIR HEADS! This is very interesting with all these others (Netflix, etal.) trying to get their own programming going.

jerseydevil
August 10th, 2011, 07:44 PM
More On Frank Darabont's Departure from The Walking Dead. | Horror Movie, DVD, & Book Reviews, News, Interviews at Dread Central (http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/46352/more-frank-darabonts-departure-walking-dead)

roenick
August 10th, 2011, 08:10 PM
More On Frank Darabont's Departure from The Walking Dead. | Horror Movie, DVD, & Book Reviews, News, Interviews at Dread Central (http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/46352/more-frank-darabonts-departure-walking-dead)

Wow is all I can say.

"Four days inside and four days out?" Oh this isn't going to work ...

"Joel thinks he is responsible for the success of shows on AMC, and not the creators," This is why I have no respect for Hollywood ...

This just sucks.

jerseydevil
August 11th, 2011, 07:34 AM
Wow is all I can say.

"Four days inside and four days out?" Oh this isn't going to work ...

"Joel thinks he is responsible for the success of shows on AMC, and not the creators," This is why I have no respect for Hollywood ...

This just sucks.

Yeah, there was a lot of info in those links that you think would make the shareholders rise up and go all French Revolution on those in charge...but they won't. Simply because AMC is making money. They do not realize that quality=longevity=long term profit. So AMC cleans up on Walking Dead while riding the show into the ground creatively. HBO should be watching this story closely because there was a lot of talk from the Game of Thrones/Boardwalk Empire folks about diminished budgets. I have to point again to Fx. Always trying new things and they are willing to give a second chance to a show in order to let it grow an audience. Archer's ratings first season were not-so-good, yet fan word of mouth and critical raves bought it a second season. Now Fx cannot have enough Archer. Even shows they could not save(Terriers/Light's out...r.i.p.) the guy in charge did state of the union type apologies to the fans which came off very sincere. Say what you want, but thank God LOST snuck thru the cracks. TV does not reward creative ideas. There are at least 2 fairytale shows coming on...and I refuse to watch them until they get a second season. Which they won't. TV sucks...a simple rule of thumb to live by.

Jaysus I am in a ranting mood today.

adgy-san
August 11th, 2011, 08:25 AM
Not only would the show get a lower budget, but AMC also decided that "Walking Dead" would no longer reap the benefit of a 30 percent tax credit per episode that came with filming in Georgia. Now the network was going to hold on to that money.

**** you, AMC!


Despite the show's success, AMC stuck to its original position on the second-season budget. When those involved with the show protested that the network was taking chances with its biggest hit, AMC's head of original programming, Joel Stillerman, is said to have declared, "Ratings have no bearing on this conversation."

**** you, Joel Stillerman!


Darabont was editing the episode in an effort to fix it but by then, an insider believes, AMC was looking for a pretext. "Joel thinks he is responsible for the success of shows on AMC, and not the creators," this person says. This person blames Stillerman for the decision to fire Darabont. (Stillerman also has a strained relationship with Mad Men's Weiner, who declines to speak to him.)

It's hearsay, but if you're also pissing off Mad Men... **** you.

jerseydevil
August 11th, 2011, 08:32 AM
**** you, AMC!



**** you, Joel Stillerman!



It's hearsay, but if you're also pissing off Mad Men... **** you.

You left out the facts that they waited until the day after SDCC to fire him, and, they are alledgedly making it all too clear to the people involved that if you talk...you are gone.

adgy-san
August 11th, 2011, 08:33 AM
You left out the facts that they waited until the day after SDCC to fire him, and, they are alledgedly making it all too clear to the people involved that if you talk...you are gone.

Well, you mentioned those previously, so I wasn't going to repeat it.

But, yeah, I'm half tempted to not watch Season 2 based on this bull****.

jerseydevil
August 11th, 2011, 08:38 AM
Well, you mentioned those previously, so I wasn't going to repeat it.

But, yeah, I'm half tempted to not watch Season 2 based on this bull****.

You can start by NOT buying the double dip(already) of season one. I mean, c'mon...the only change is that they have a b&w version of the show on it...hurm I wonder where that gem of an idea came from(hint:see The Mist)

adgy-san
August 11th, 2011, 08:40 AM
You can start by NOT buying the double dip(already) of season one. I mean, c'mon...the only change is that they have a b&w version of the show on it...hurm I wonder where that gem of an idea came from(hint:see The Mist)

What if I hadn't bought the original release yet?

I think we still have them all on the DVR, though. Maybe I'll wait and buy it used.

jerseydevil
August 11th, 2011, 08:49 AM
It should have been obvious the way AMC repeated the original 6 incessantly and within a couple months announced a retread of the boxset that they were simply trying to recoup their investment instead of protecting the 'specialness' of their show. Do Not Buy new. I wish I hadn't already bought the first set.

adgy-san
August 11th, 2011, 02:26 PM
Oh No They Didn't! - Kurt Sutter: 'Mad Men' Greed Hurting 'Breaking Bad' and 'Walking Dead' (http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/61871251.html)


Sons Of Anarchy creator Kurt Sutter stirred up Twitter Thursday morning and it didn’t have anything to do with the Emmy Awards. Sutter makes the compelling case that AMC spent so much money making Matt Weiner happy and renewing Mad Men that it is looking to slash costs everywhere else. Sutter thinks it’s that which has led ultimately, to Frank Darabont being fired from The Walking Dead and all the chatter about Sony’s negotiations with AMC for Breaking Bad not going well (reports of AMC looking to slash costs and episode counts).

jerseydevil
August 11th, 2011, 03:55 PM
Oh No They Didn't! - Kurt Sutter: 'Mad Men' Greed Hurting 'Breaking Bad' and 'Walking Dead' (http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/61871251.html)

Actually thats a fair point. Sutter may have some inside knowledge too because he was a big part of the Shield and that's where Mazzara(new WD showrunner) hails from. As far as Breaking Bad I have to imagine AMC is probably pissy because Gilligan wants to end the show either next season or maybe the one after. So AMC may figure they don't have much to lose there.. I like Sutter and his honesty...that's another feather in Fx's cap, they have never been on the wrong side(to my knowledge) of one of his rants.

jerseydevil
August 12th, 2011, 11:08 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=oMch8m2pYMs

Sort of a drag after the news earlier this week. Weird that someone pasted Fx all over the damned thing...wishful thinking.

THE WALKING DEAD Extended Season 2 Trailer (http://collider.com/walking-dead-extended-season-2-trailer/109083/)

jerseydevil
August 12th, 2011, 11:13 AM
Bryan Cranston BREAKING BAD Season 5 and Beyond Interview (http://collider.com/bryan-cranston-breaking-bad-season-5/108962/)

looks like someone was chatty

Bryan Cranston Almost Did X-MEN: FIRST CLASS; Writing and Directing HOME AGAIN (http://collider.com/bryan-cranston-x-men-first-class-home-again-rock-of-ages/108970/)

jerseydevil
August 12th, 2011, 11:31 PM
This Should Happen: AMC is in serious need of a regime change
Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/50794)
'Awesome editorial bordering on 'well DUH!!!!'


The network takes risks, but doesn?t seem to understand how to keep pace with their successes. If it was just one disagreement, I could explain away the brass just not getting along with Darabont, who notoriously sticks to his guns and isn?t afraid at pissing people off to protect his storytelling. But considering AMC has three mammoth shows and there?s creative unrest between all three showrunners and the execs it?s pretty clear there?s a problem with the management.

You guys understand why this is bad news for us, the fans. You don?t need me to draw it out? suits interfering with the creative process isn?t a new thing in Hollywood. What AMC?s board and advertisers should be made aware of is how these actions negatively impact them directly. Fans want quality storytelling, risky storytelling? board members, shareholders and advertisers just want to look at the bottom line, see profits.

For them, I have this to say: Mad Men, Breaking Bad and The Walking Dead weren?t successes because of Stillman and his group, they were successes despite them. Do you really think the next Vince Gilligan or Frank Darabont or Matthew Weiner will be attracted to AMC knowing how they treat their talent? Do you think the next brilliant showrunner will choose AMC over, say, HBO with the next great, profitable series knowing that even if they bring in the best ratings in the network?s history their budgets will be slashed in their next season and they could be booted off the series they developed for years?

Guys, it?s not that hard to figure out. If you don?t invest in the future of your network you?re not going to have one. You need to make AMC the home of cutting edge TV, a haven for the men and women who really do the work, tell the stories audiences want to tune in to every week. If you don?t, then you?re going to lose the next wave of brilliant showrunners.

jerseydevil
August 14th, 2011, 03:37 PM
BD Horror News - AMC In More Hot Water Regarding 'Walking Dead' Firing; Anthrax's Scott Ian a Zombie?! (http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/25830)


Not only has Anthrax guitarist Scott Ian put on display an image of him as a zombie (pictured inside) from the set of AMC's now filming second season of "The Walking Dead," more juicy madness is pouring salt on the wounds that has now become a public fist fight.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c179/rtbstrd1331/walkingdead1.jpg

jerseydevil
August 14th, 2011, 09:44 PM
BREAKING BAD Renewed for a 16-Episode Final Season (http://collider.com/breaking-bad-renewed-16-episode-final-season/109279/)

not all good news though


AMC may have some of the best dramatic series on TV right now, but they’ve had a hell of a time working out the details. There was the negotiations drama with Mad Men, the behind-the-scenes creative shuffling on The Walking Dead, and recently trying to get more Breaking Bad to stay on AMC while controlling costs. Deadline reports that Sony (the company behind the show) and AMC have come to an agreement over the $3 million price tag for the series’ budget. The new agreement will bring a 16-episode final season to the series, although the final season may be split into two halves. While AMC is a cable network and doesn’t have the cash of network TV or the premium channels, I think this is money well spent. I’m slightly biased because I think Breaking Bad is the best show on TV right now.

But the drama isn’t over yet. Vince Gilligan doesn’t have a contract beyond this season so he’ll be renegotiating his contract with Sony. The cast can renegotiate their contracts as well.


Man, tonights episode was brilliant!!!!!

jerseydevil
August 15th, 2011, 12:54 PM
Kurt Sutter quits Twitter | Inside TV | EW.com (http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/08/15/kurt-sutter-quits-twitter/)

Posted here instead of on the SOA/Fx threads due simply to the fact that this is fallout from his post RE:Mad Men and AMC's subsequent bad moves.

lunchbox
August 16th, 2011, 12:33 AM
BREAKING BAD Renewed for a 16-Episode Final Season (http://collider.com/breaking-bad-renewed-16-episode-final-season/109279/)

not all good news though



Man, tonights episode was brilliant!!!!!

it was! good to hear there's going to be a bunch of shows before the end. i'm hoping contract negotiations for gilligan and the cast don't (negatively) affect what'll be left.

adgy-san
August 18th, 2011, 10:00 AM
AMC Exec's Fake Twitter Account: 'We've Slashed The Killing's Chewing-Gum Budget' | TheWrap TV (http://www.thewrap.com/tv/article/amc-chiefs-fake-twitter-account-weve-slashed-killings-chewing-gum-budget-30088)


"It's not my fault that Darabont didn't want to incorporate already-shot-footage from The Mist into The Walking Dead," @joelstillerman tweeted Sunday.

Earlier, he added, "Hey guys! Wondering if anyone knows of surplus stores in the CA area where I could get a meth lab props for under $400. #Thanks #HitMeBack."

>> Big Announcement! There will be a 2nd season of Rubicon! Just kidding. Do you know how much that ****ing train scene cost to shoot? #2much

>> I know this Bryan Cranston guy is good...but is he $200,000-I-Could-Save-By-Recasting-Walter-White-With-Jim-Norton good? Hm...time will tell


Heh!

jerseydevil
August 30th, 2011, 06:47 PM
What?? Is AMC Creating A WALKING DEAD Talk Show??
Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/51015)


AMC has shot a talk-show pilot designed to do for AMC scripted programming what Bravo’s “Watch What Happens: Live” does for Bravo's reality programming.

The idea, I gather, is to have the “Walking Dead”-centric chatfest air after each new episode of “Walking Dead” this fall. If it works for “Dead,” AMC could start doing similar weekly aftershows for “Mad Men,” “Breaking Bad,” “The Killing” and so on.

Bravo programming exec Andy Cohen hosts “WWH” -- so will the guy who just fired Frank Darabont host the AMC version?

Probably not. Former “Singled Out” host and current “Nerdist” blogger Chris Hardwick, who also hosts G4’s “Web Soup,” was tapped to host the AMC talk pilot.

Will the stars and writers of “Walking Dead” finally be allowed to explain why Glen Mazzara (creator and original showrunner of Starz’ widely and deservedly reviled TV version of “Crash”) is now “Walking Dead” showrunner instead of “Shawshank Redmption” writer-director Darabont?

jerseydevil
September 1st, 2011, 10:38 AM
AMC supersizes Walking Dead premiere, orders Kevin Smiths Secret Stash - HitFix.com (http://www.hitfix.com/articles/amc-supersizes-walking-dead-premiere-orders-kevin-smiths-secret-stash)

jerseydevil
September 1st, 2011, 05:00 PM
THERE’S GOOD AND BAD NEWS ABOUT THE WALKING DEAD: SEASON 2 | CHUD.com (http://www.chud.com/65827/theres-good-and-bad-news-about-the-walking-dead-season-2/)


But today there are two announcements. Firstly, the season premiere of The Walking Dead will be, much like the show’s pilot, 90 minutes. Great!

Here’s the bad news: the season will be split up. Yeah, that’s right. 7 episodes this Fall, the remaining 6 coming in February.

Look, I wholeheartedly acknowledge that December and January are tough months for television, what with all the holiday mingling and gift-giving and such but give me a break. This is the kind of thing that killed a fantastic show, Men Of A Certain Age, and while ultimately the writing was on the wall for that show and it never so much as sniffed the kind of ratings that The Walking Dead gets, it’s still bad news when you string an audience along and expect them to be back after a hiatus. Especially after all of the internal muckety-muck that has gone on with the show which calls to question just how good season 2 will be anyway.

I don’t expect season 2 to suffer because of this, at least not ratings-wise. But it doesn’t do a thing to maintain or cater to a loyal fanbase. It’s television blue balls, is what it is.

jerseydevil
September 1st, 2011, 05:01 PM
Interview: Bryan Cranston Talks Walter White’s Journey and Breaking Bad’s Mirror to Society | Film School Rejects (http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/interview-bryan-cranston-breaking-bad-drive.php)

Off2NvrLnd
September 4th, 2011, 03:27 AM
THERE’S GOOD AND BAD NEWS ABOUT THE WALKING DEAD: SEASON 2 | CHUD.com (http://www.chud.com/65827/theres-good-and-bad-news-about-the-walking-dead-season-2/)

now we're just askiing to be spoiled more. i know i did with 24 when they ran the seasons straight through, but i would have still been loyal to it even if it remained split. so will be the same with The Walking Dead. if it's a great season, the fans will want to continue to watch no matter how they run it.

jerseydevil
September 4th, 2011, 09:56 AM
Yeah, well therein lies the problem. With all the drama and upheaval behind the scenes, there are concerns about the quality of the upcoming season. AMC basically forced out Darabont because he wanted the show to be as good as it could be and fought them over budget/content/etc. While I imagine that would get tiresome after awhile the results were visible for all to see. If you read some of the demands that AMC were making(example:shoot indoors instead of outdoors because it's cheaper) you can tell where AMC's concerns lie. Look, they have to figure that even if the next season and the following season suck eggs, folks will still stick around enough for AMC to put up pretty good numbers for a cable station. So they really don't care. They have NO motivation to make this as good as it can be. So, lowered quality and a mid season hiatus(which will no doubt be filled with AMC shamelessly re-running the original episodes into the ground) don't really bode well for this show.

jerseydevil
September 4th, 2011, 10:18 AM
Dragon*Con 2011 Video:Walking Dead panel (http://www.geeksofdoom.com/2011/09/03/dragoncon-2011-video-the-walking-dead-cast-eerily-silent-about-new-showrunner/)


The audience was told precisely eight times (yes I counted) prior to the panel beginning not to ask about Darabont. And while the children on the panel didn’t have much to say, all three adult actors shared at least one “Frankism” — all the while staying very guarded about Darabont’s departure.

One notable “Frankism” mentioned by Yeun came when he explained the different terms the characters use for the zombies, such as geeks, walkers, and roamers.

“I don’t think we ever refer to them as ‘zombies’, because it’s a world that didn’t know what they were prior [to the zombie outbreak],” Yeun said. “So, to call them ‘zombies’ is a little too convenient since that word hasn’t been created yet.”

“It’s a Frankism,” he added.

In another instance, Bernthal responded to a fan question about feeling liberated that his character Shane has managed to stay alive longer than his graphic novel counterpart.

“Frank and I, when we started, we really set out to do something very specific with Shane and I knew he would last longer than he does in the graphic novel,” Bernthal said. “Knowing that your character could bite it at any moment is tough, especially when you’re working with a bunch of people that you really, really love…”

Personally, I believe the cast is mostly pissed off about how AMC has treated its highest rated program and are also scared they’ll get canned if they speak up about it.


More reason for concern.

jerseydevil
September 4th, 2011, 10:22 AM
SPOILERS

‘Because I Know Who You Are!!’ Hercules Says Sunday’s Excellent And Revelatory BREAKING BAD Is Its Most Hermanos-Centric!!
Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/51073)

Best show on TV despite AMC's efforts to ruin what they have.

Off2NvrLnd
September 6th, 2011, 12:00 AM
hmm good point. i haven't really kept up to date with it so had no clue. now i am concern and not looking forward to it as i did before. i don't understand why they would be doing all this when they had such a succesful first season and are expected to continue that success. it's like they're sabatoging it on purpose. AMC is known for their greatness in shows, what are they smoking over there? or, better yet, what drugs are they taking? i'm telling you it's a weird time for all.

jerseydevil
September 6th, 2011, 08:26 AM
It comes down to the guys in charge not being used to runaway success. Like every bean counter who gets involved with a creative project they overestimate their worth and try to put their stamp on things instead of just riding the success. They do not realize that a reduced budget only means reduced results. While it may please the shareholders it alienates the viewers, you know...the people who get those higher ad rates for your channel...

Off2NvrLnd
September 6th, 2011, 08:05 PM
i want to punch them in the face!

jerseydevil
September 6th, 2011, 10:25 PM
i want to punch them in the junk!

ftfy

adgy-san
September 7th, 2011, 04:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbmJxjPL7mE&feature=player_embedded

Off2NvrLnd
September 8th, 2011, 09:50 AM
ftfy

oh yes! much better, thank ye!

jerseydevil
September 8th, 2011, 12:37 PM
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c179/rtbstrd1331/kfc.jpg

jerseydevil
September 9th, 2011, 02:33 PM
'The Walking Dead': Glen Mazzara on Frank Darabont and His Fears as the Drama's New Showrunner (Q&A) - Hollywood Reporter (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/walking-dead-glen-mazzara-frank-233039)

This interview at least assures me that if the show does go sideways it won't be due to the creative forces behind the scenes.

jerseydevil
September 9th, 2011, 02:33 PM
DIRECTV Adds AMC HD (http://www.tvpredictions.com/damc0909011.htm)

BOUT F'NTIME!!!!!!!!

adgy-san
September 9th, 2011, 02:38 PM
DIRECTV Adds AMC HD (http://www.tvpredictions.com/damc0909011.htm)

BOUT F'NTIME!!!!!!!!

****ing FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Off2NvrLnd
September 14th, 2011, 03:06 PM
'The Walking Dead': Glen Mazzara on Frank Darabont and His Fears as the Drama's New Showrunner (Q&A) - Hollywood Reporter (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/walking-dead-glen-mazzara-frank-233039)

This interview at least assures me that if the show does go sideways it won't be due to the creative forces behind the scenes.

i'm gonna pray to the universe that it doesn't go sideways.

jerseydevil
September 14th, 2011, 03:51 PM
i'm gonna pray to the universe that it doesn't go sideways.

May come to that. We will see. From what I am reading the first half of the season before the split is Frank Darabont's The Walking Dead, while the half after the hiatus is gonna be the real test cause that's when the training wheels are off. You never know...it may be fine. Mazzara is an accomplished showrunner with a better idea of the system as far as dealing with the suits...Darabont is used to the world of features. Bigger budgets, more time to tinker...etc. We just won't really know until it starts back up. Gotta hope for the best, and, if not, hopefully the ratings will drop drastically enough for AMC to realize/fix their mistakes in time to save it. The buzz was so over the top for season 1...but anyone remember Heroes? Once that spit the bit there was no saving it.

jerseydevil
September 15th, 2011, 01:24 PM
Zombie Fans Sigh in Relief! Greg Nicotero Named Co-Executive Producer of The Walking Dead! | Horror Movie, DVD, & Book Reviews, News, Interviews at Dread Central (http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/47262/zombie-fans-sigh-relief-greg-nicotero-named-co-executive-producer-walking-dead)

I would like to think that this is a good sign and as close to an apology/commitment that you are going to see from the powers-that-be. As I have said in the past, it was openly admitted that Darabont/AMC had a contentious relationship and I think Mazzara was being groomed as a replacement anyway, probably as early as season 3. Giving Nicotero the promotion means that another valuable piece of the puzzle will be kept in place. Hopefully this means that the ship has been righted.

jerseydevil
September 17th, 2011, 11:49 AM
BD Horror News - TV: Meet the Undead, New Cast of 'The Walking Dead' (http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/26347)

jerseydevil
September 18th, 2011, 10:30 AM
‘There’s No Room For Emotion In This!!’ Hercules Says Tonight’s BREAKING BAD Is The One Fans Have Long Been Waiting For!!
Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/51240)

lunchbox
September 18th, 2011, 11:52 PM
wow, that breaking bad episode...

Bogey
September 19th, 2011, 12:11 PM
wow, that breaking bad episode...
* * * S P O I L E R * * *

Gus took Walt & Jesse's idea to the next higher level . . . and may have done Jesse's job for him.

JDawg
September 19th, 2011, 12:25 PM
* * * S P O I L E R * * *

Gus took Walt & Jesse's idea to the next higher level . . . and may have done Jesse's job for him.

I love this show. I didn't put it past Gus to do what he did last night.. but i didn't expect it to happen so quickly. I loved the small smiles from Mike and Gus when Jesse straight laid it out in the Mexican lab.

jerseydevil
September 19th, 2011, 04:05 PM
MAD MEN Episode Length Will Not Be Cut Short As Originally Thought (http://collider.com/mad-men-episode-length/115784/)

jerseydevil
September 20th, 2011, 09:19 AM
wow, that breaking bad episode...

wow indeed. Very interested to see how they manage 3 more episodes this season, much less 17(?) through the split last season.


SPOILERS



Mike the fixer is too tough to die...damnit he better be.

jerseydevil
September 20th, 2011, 10:46 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IdkbUlp6eQ&feature=player_embedded

Is it just me or , when you guys watch Breaking Bad do you also wonder WHY there is such a dearth of quality on Network television? Why can't NBC/ABC/CBS put out product that is even 1/2 as good as what Fx/AMC produce? It's befuddling. Do they have to pander to their audiences SO much that they have to water down any semblance of quality out of their programming? With the life span of most dramas being less than a full season, how is that working out?

adgy-san
September 20th, 2011, 11:03 AM
Do they have to pander to their audiences SO much that they have to water down any semblance of quality out of their programming?

Yes.

jerseydevil
September 20th, 2011, 12:04 PM
if only one network exec would just say '**** this' and go all out to try to revamp basic tv...he would be a genius. Probably get fired, but man, all it takes is one brave soul. There is hardly a thing on Breaking bad that couldn't be shown on a network after 10 pm. Ok...maybe the drug use, but still, cleaned up does not have to equal sanitized. Meanwhile basic cable stations are reaching the big boys numbers wise and, more importantly EMMY wise. A few years ago it was unheard of for an emmy nod to go to anyone other than the big 3. In a year or 2 I can see them getting shut out in the odd category here and there. More 'movie' actors are going the basic cable route simply because it's all about storytelling. It makes no sense. In this instance safe truly does equal death.

Creeping Death
September 20th, 2011, 04:48 PM
This season Breaking Bad has probably moved into number 2 on my all time list of favorite shows. The Wire is the only one ahead of it. The character development around Gus and Mike has been incredible. I hope they decide to go further into the backstory of those 2 characters. They could probably get their own spin off miniseries.

jerseydevil
September 20th, 2011, 06:42 PM
that is what is sooooooo striking about BB. Even the 'bad guys' are so delicately written that you not only want to know more about them, you almost root for them. There are so many shades of grey on this show. The only one who strikes me as one dimensional is Skyler, simply because she is the only one who doesn't understand that she is skirting lines too. It's funny, all the grief she gives Walter, and her tax issue with Beneke is clearly going to be the undoing of everything in my opinion.

jerseydevil
September 20th, 2011, 07:49 PM
HOLEEEEEEEEE XST!!!!!

the late Don Eladio...well that was Steven 'Scarface' Bauer. WOW. Even more important, he was in Running Scared.

adgy-san
September 21st, 2011, 04:36 PM
McFarlane Toys Shows Packaging For Previews Exclusive Walking Dead 2-Pack (http://www.actionfigureinsider.com/main/mcfarlane-toys-shows-packaging-for-previews-exclusive-walking-dead-2-pack)

http://bitcast-a-sm.bitgravity.com/slashfilm/wp/wp-content/images/ZZ46F8E6AC.jpg

jerseydevil
September 22nd, 2011, 09:37 PM
TALKING DEAD, The WALKING DEAD Talk Show, Gets A Greenlight At AMC!!
Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/51307)

jerseydevil
September 25th, 2011, 10:32 PM
‘Does The Laundry Have To Be Dirty??’ Herc Loves This Week’s BREAKING BAD Even More Than Last Week’s!!
Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/51343)

Bogey
September 25th, 2011, 11:54 PM
Just yet another outstanding episode of Breaking Bad - S4E11 - Crawl Space

lunchbox
September 26th, 2011, 12:46 AM
Just yet another outstanding episode of Breaking Bad - S4E11 - Crawl Space

yep indeedy.

although, i missed what mike's last name is.

Bogey
September 26th, 2011, 09:16 AM
yep indeedy.

although, i missed what mike's last name is.

Ehrmantraut

lunchbox
September 26th, 2011, 12:18 PM
Ehrmantraut

oh was that when jesse was looking at the blood bags in the fridge? duh, i saw it, but i didn't see it. haha. thanks.

santiclaws
September 26th, 2011, 12:55 PM
http://i.imgur.com/7XSdp.jpg

JDawg
September 27th, 2011, 12:07 PM
I just watched Sunday's episode... WOW WOW WOW. The last 5 minutes were insane. I don't know if anyone reads Alan Sepinwall but i thought he made a great point... how the last 5 episodes have had insane last sections. **SPOILERS** The freakout/breakdown/money missing of this last episode, the shootout before, the walt/jesse fight before that...

ANd how usually when shows keeping upping the wow factor it means a show is in trouble. But BB just manages to pull it off. I love that nothign would surprise me with this show. They could kill anyone off right now and I'd believe it. Like if you told me that Bryan Cranston was gonna be killed this Sunday, even though there are still like 17 episodes left, I'd believe it. And I'd probably go with it.

so love this show.

Kingsqueen
September 27th, 2011, 02:15 PM
http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/6776ca6d-4730-46c0-ad56-d41e2e1e851b.jpg

I dunno why, but the "Jesse says, Bitch" really made lolz.

adgy-san
September 27th, 2011, 02:52 PM
Twitter // Patton Oswalt (http://twitter.com/#!/pattonoswalt/statuses/118305794688163841)


If Hirokazu Koreeda's right, I hope my afterlife is spent re-experiencing BREAKING BAD for the first time, forever.

@hudsonette BREAKING BAD, yes. It's that good. Not just good -- Hirokazu Koreeda good.

adgy-san
September 28th, 2011, 03:44 PM
AMC Launching 'Walking Dead' Web Series Monday | TheWrap TV (http://www.thewrap.com/tv/column-post/amc-launching-walking-dead-web-series-monday-31378)


The season two premiere of "Walking Dead" is less than a month away, and AMC is making the wait a little easier by launching a six-episode "Walking Dead" Web series on Oct. 3.

The Webisodes will unfold the backstory of Hannah, a.k.a. "Bicycle Girl," the leg-less zombie shot by Rick Grimes (Andrew Lincoln) shortly after he left the hospital in the series premiere.

All six Hannah-themed Webisodes premiere at AMCTV.com on Monday (2 p.m.), while season two of "Walking Dead" premieres on the network Oct. 16 with a special 90-minute episode.

jerseydevil
September 28th, 2011, 08:46 PM
I just watched Sunday's episode... WOW WOW WOW. The last 5 minutes were insane. I don't know if anyone reads Alan Sepinwall but i thought he made a great point... how the last 5 episodes have had insane last sections. **SPOILERS** The freakout/breakdown/money missing of this last episode, the shootout before, the walt/jesse fight before that...

ANd how usually when shows keeping upping the wow factor it means a show is in trouble. But BB just manages to pull it off. I love that nothign would surprise me with this show. They could kill anyone off right now and I'd believe it. Like if you told me that Bryan Cranston was gonna be killed this Sunday, even though there are still like 17 episodes left, I'd believe it. And I'd probably go with it.

so love this show.

Sepinwall is brilliant, I link to his blog almost ridiculously. Dude knows good tv. Disagree with him about the Killing...but not to the point I want to dismiss him. Look, BB is a miraculous thing. A self contained microcosm of folks doing all the wrong things...yet, you like them, and you root for them. Network tv just does not get this. The fact that this show has a finite end in site...just makes it a well told story. Walt rolling around and laughing at just how well and truly ****ed he is...well, that was brilliant. So many moves...he thought he was so smart...yet he is undone by those around him. Do you hate the Chicken man. Not at all. Funny how gangsta Skyler has gone...yet she don't see it. This is THE SHOW THAT EVERYONE SHOULD WATCH. Period.

adgy-san
September 29th, 2011, 11:21 AM
New Trailer and Images for The Walking Dead Season 2 | BeyondHollywood.com (http://www.beyondhollywood.com/new-trailer-and-images-for-the-walking-dead-season-2/)

October 16th!

JDawg
September 29th, 2011, 10:11 PM
Sepinwall is brilliant, I link to his blog almost ridiculously. Dude knows good tv. Disagree with him about the Killing...but not to the point I want to dismiss him. Look, BB is a miraculous thing. A self contained microcosm of folks doing all the wrong things...yet, you like them, and you root for them. Network tv just does not get this. The fact that this show has a finite end in site...just makes it a well told story. Walt rolling around and laughing at just how well and truly ****ed he is...well, that was brilliant. So many moves...he thought he was so smart...yet he is undone by those around him. Do you hate the Chicken man. Not at all. Funny how gangsta Skyler has gone...yet she don't see it. This is THE SHOW THAT EVERYONE SHOULD WATCH. Period.

Was so struck by the dichotomy of how Gus is so prepared for everything (to quote jesse) and Walt was so not prepared. Money under the house. Making up stories as he goes along. Calling Saul. And yet there they were in the desert. And Walt is Gus' intellectual equal. And Gus can't do a damn thing about it for now.

Can't agree with you more about having a finite end. so much better to never have a wasted episode. everything moves towards a place. so much more enjoyable to look back at a totally tight 5 season show then a 7 season show where ya go.. yea... season 1 was good.. and parts of 2 and 3 rocked but 5 was bleh.

jerseydevil
October 3rd, 2011, 10:37 PM
Some Sneak Peek Photos from The Walking Dead Episode 2.01 | Horror Movie, DVD, & Book Reviews, News, Interviews at Dread Central (http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/47682/some-sneak-peek-photos-walking-dead-episode-201)

jerseydevil
October 3rd, 2011, 10:44 PM
The Walking Dead Webisodes Shamble Online! See All Six Right NOW! | Horror Movie, DVD, & Book Reviews, News, Interviews at Dread Central (http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/47680/walking-dead-webisodes-shamble-online-see-all-six-right-now)

Palffy3314
October 4th, 2011, 03:29 AM
Ahh I cannot wait for The Walking Dead!!!

adgy-san
October 5th, 2011, 11:02 AM
AMC Orders Comedy Presentation From Rob Roy Thomas – Deadline.com (http://www.deadline.com/2011/10/amc-orders-rob-roy-thomas-male-comedy-presentation/)


AMC is venturing into half-hour comedy with a presentation order to Rob Roy Thomas’ How To Cheat On Your Wife. The single-camera comedy, which Thomas is writing, directing and executive producing, centers on four nice guys in flyover country dealing with middle age.

Thomas originally shot a short presentation for the project on his own about six months ago. In it, the four friends meet the day after they are reunited at the funeral of their first dead friend. After seeing that footage, AMC put the comedy project in development and, as part of the development process, Thomas will film a new presentation.

Thomas, creator of Fox’s Free Ride and co-creator of NBC’s Significant Others, is now tweaking the idea and will executive produce the presentation with Marc Provissiero and Naomi Odenkirk.

roenick
October 6th, 2011, 07:33 PM
For anyone who watched the webisodes of Walking Dead - I think we are seeing the future of our favorite show there. ****SPOILERS**** The acting was very, very good in these but the cheesy "carpet" gags just did me in. Greg Nicatero (spelling?) is going to do as good as he can when it comes to the effects - and I did think they were good in the webisodes - but if this is what it will look like to go on the "cheap" I am going to be very disappointed.

Dexter
October 7th, 2011, 12:36 PM
Walking Dead is on netflix streaming now!

jerseydevil
October 7th, 2011, 12:58 PM
For anyone who watched the webisodes of Walking Dead - I think we are seeing the future of our favorite show there. ****SPOILERS**** The acting was very, very good in these but the cheesy "carpet" gags just did me in. Greg Nicatero (spelling?) is going to do as good as he can when it comes to the effects - and I did think they were good in the webisodes - but if this is what it will look like to go on the "cheap" I am going to be very disappointed.

I wouldn't be too concerned. Yet. Webisodes are notoriously low budge and usually do not reflect the same quality. I guarantee the first six will be fine(those were the ones Darabont worked) it's after the hiatus when we should see what the difference will be. I think that AMC may have realized they might be a little foolish and have given back some, I imagine they are still tightening up the budget though.

And man...Breaking Bad. Wow. Walt's talk aboout 'consequences coming' with Skyler...saying goodbye to the baby...powerful stuff. Man oh man everyone just keeps underestimating and trying to manipulate Jessie. While i have to say that I didn't really have much sympathy for him through the first 2 seasons he really has grown as a character. His undying loyalty and the fact that he still calls Walter 'Mr. White', it's clear that he cares for/respects him. And Walt just uses him and degrades him. Like I said, powerful stuff. Saul is just the right amount of nervous comic relief. And Fring really is that perfect bad guy. I used to think the Shield was unquestionably the best show ever on tv as far as from start to finish. That show never flagged and the story continuosly rolled out and evolved. BB may be even better. If you aren't watching this show...every episode...I feel sorry for you.

jerseydevil
October 9th, 2011, 09:37 AM
16 things we already know about Walking Dead season 2 | Blastr (http://blastr.com/2011/10/16-things-we-already-know.php)

But we have a week to wait for that...

How about tonight's Breaking Bad season finale'? Who is going to survive? I read a speculative piece that I will not link because it had a potential major spoiler that, if they were right, may be one of the biggest twists in this story yet. And a major turning point for one of the main characters. As awesome as it is, I hope they article was wrong. It really has a 'Luke, I am your father' weight to it. We will know by the end of tonights episode I think.

jerseydevil
October 9th, 2011, 08:17 PM
Breaking Bad=AMAZING. I will go spoiler free for the folks that don't get early feeds(peasants!!!!!) It was AMAZING. I have no idea how they are going to top this season but I have no doubt they will. The thing I posted earlier, well...the guy was right. Wait till you see this episode. Really, far and above the best show on tv. Now go watch Whitney...sheesh! Network tv is not fit to wipe the ass of this show. Aaron Paul continues to just get better and better and Cranston...wow. Cannot wait to talk about this tomorrow. Better call Saul!!!!!

JDawg
October 9th, 2011, 09:51 PM
Agree JD... what. an. episode. So glad i have the west coast feed. Will also refrain from spilers for now. I would love to have BB thread sometime in the next few days/weeks here with anyone else who watches this show. I feel like I have so much I want to discuss with this show. If anyone else is down... lets do it.

Kingsqueen
October 9th, 2011, 11:16 PM
"I won."

lunchbox
October 10th, 2011, 12:06 AM
that BB episode was amazing.
so much to say but don't want to spoil it for anyone who hasn't seen it. i just think gus was also amazing.

jerseydevil
October 10th, 2011, 04:17 AM
Well, it's ok to post spoilers now cause if you did not watch it immediately...shame on you.

So SPOILERS!!!!!!!


Wow. Did not expect the episode title(Face off) to be soooooo literal...well, actually I kind of did. That....was awesome. And he straightened his tie. RIP Chicken Man. Always liked Giancarlo Esposito but he really took it to a whole new level here.
And...with that lingering shot of the plant that Walt used to poison Brock he has completed his transformation. He is a MONSTER. Make no mistake. There is no longer any good there. Skyler recoiling over the phone was the first time I actually agreed with her. Straight up speculation here...that scene with Jessie holding a gun to Walts head may get a recall, Walt is now responsible for Jessie's girl's(sorry) death and the poisoning of Brock. Those chickens will come home to roost at some point. And, what of Mike? The now unemployed Mike. Do the boys resume cooking at some point? Hank? He doesn't seem likely to give this up, and finding the burnt out husk of the superlab and his being right about Fring is bound to light an even bigger fire under his ass. Just a tremendous show and such a bold move to sacrifice such a great character. This show has never been afraid to push things. Talk about a singular vision. Vince Gilligan...standing ovation. Seriously. 16 more episodes of brilliance to look forward to. And if all parties are still drawing breath at the end of this I will be amazed. And yes Kingsqueen I do intend to wear my Breaking Bad shirt(that you got me) today.


Better call Saul!

jerseydevil
October 10th, 2011, 04:39 AM
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/breaking-bad-postmortem-giancarlo-esposito-reacts-season-4s-031000424.html


[WARNING: The following story contains major spoilers about the Season 4 finale of Breaking Bad. Read at your own risk.]

As Gustavo Fring, Breaking Bad's Giancarlo Esposito has embodied one of the most memorable TV villains ever. And he knows it.

Breaking Bad finale: Who will survive the "Face Off"?

"I think I've created a character that will live on for a long time in people's nightmares," the 53-year-old actor tells TVGuide.com with a laugh.

First appearing as a meek owner of a chain of fried chicken restaurants, Gus quickly emerged as a calculating — and when need be, deadly — meth distributor who put Walt (Bryan Cranston) and Jesse (Aaron Paul) to work. Whether slitting an employee's throat with a box cutter or taking out what's left of the Mexican drug cartel with a poisoned bottle of tequila, Gus was always a portrait of menace.

But almost all great villains don't outlive their opponents. Such is true for Gus, who in Breaking Bad's Season 4 finale was killed in grisly fashion when Walt rigged the wheelchair of Hector "Tio" Salamanca (Mark Margolis) with a bomb that finally took out the chicken man (and half of his face) once and for all.

We chatted with Esposito about Gus' defiance even in death, whether we'll ever see Gus again in flashbacks, and why he thinks Walt will always be haunted by Gus.


Great article and I highlighted the name of the actor who played Salamanca. Guy has been around a long time and if anyone ever acted so much without saying a word...

jerseydevil
October 10th, 2011, 06:34 AM
Interview: Breaking Bad creator Vince Gilligan post-mortems season 4 - HitFix.com (http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/whats-alan-watching/posts/interview-breaking-bad-creator-vince-gilligan-post-mortems-season-4)
Season finale review: Breaking Bad - Face Off: Say uncle - HitFix.com (http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/whats-alan-watching/posts/breaking-bad-face-off-say-uncle)

BREAKING BAD Season 4 Finale Recap: “Face Off” (http://collider.com/breaking-bad-season-4-finale-recap-face-off/119620/)


just when Gus was about to inject Hector with something very painful, Hector rang that bell one…last…time.

And: BOOM.

The shot of Hector’s exploding bedroom was impressive, but not as impressive as what immediately followed: after the door to the bedroom exploded out into the hall, smoke billowed from the room. Moments later, Gus emerged, looking no worse for the wear. We had just enough time to think, “Oh, come on!” and then…the camera panned around Gus, revealing that half of his head was missing. The people I watched tonight’s episode with went absolutely ape**** during this shot, but I sat there in stunned silence: I truthfully cannot recall being so utterly stunned by a TV show. Watching that shot, I had the feeling that I was watching TV history being made. I mean, even if you don’t like Breaking Bad, you’ve gotta admit that showing one of your lead villains with half his head blown off is a pretty groundbreaking bit of television. Let’s hope they steal the idea for a future episode of Two and a Half Men.



Could not have said it better myself. And that little adjust of the tie. Man I am gonna be obsessed with this for the next week or so. I resisted the impulse to rewind/rewatch that scene because I want the horror of my initial reaction to have a chance to soak into my subconscious before I go all Zapruder on the thing. But...the frantic ringing of the bell, Gus's realization and, for the first time, complete lack of composure...just a hell of a thing. I cannot fathom that there are people that do not watch this show. Serious.


Better Call Saul.


B.T.W. it was mentioned in one of the earlier links...anyone else notice that Walt has been coughing a lot? Mike too. Hurm.

jerseydevil
October 10th, 2011, 07:47 AM
Breaking Bad “Face Off” Review | ApeDonkey (http://www.apedonkey.com/2011/breaking-bad-face-off-review/)

First off...click on the link for a nice 1/2 portrait of Gus

Second, there seems to be a lot of second guessing with the poisoning, the way it was presented, and the timeline. Interesting argument.


The other thing that truly bugged me is the revelation that Walt poisoned Brock. Now don’t get me wrong, I have no doubts that Walt had reached a point of desperation and moral depravity that he was completely capable of poisoning a child for his own benefit. What I took issue with was his ability to plan that far ahead. Follow me here. This entire season, Walt has been two steps behind Gus, completely frazzled, paranoid and prone to rash half baked ideas. Poisoning Brock, removing the ricin from Jesse’s cigarettes and then staging that entire confrontation with him would take a level of planning that I don’t think Walt was in the state of mind to pull off. Even in his encounter with Saul’s secretary you can see how Walt’s propensity towards single mindedness and a general density towards personal overtones works against him. I get the purpose of revealing that to us. Walt has entered the realm where Gus lives. He’s broken completely bad. It’s no longer a means to and end. It is who he is. It’s a powerful tool to push the series into the next and final season. However, for the sake of this season, Brock’s poisoning works better as a fortunate accident. The little lucky break that Walt and Jesse needed to survive. Perhaps if this had been the series finale that final shot would have been left out but because they signed on for one more season they needed the catalyst for the final season.Even with the issues that linger, I thought the season was tied up perfectly. Going forward, Walt and Jesse had to break free of Gus and the only way to do that was to kill him off. Walt is now established as a person who know no boundaries when it comes to protecting his own interest and once again he has authority over Jesse. Walter White no longer exists. There is only Heisenberg.

BigBrown
October 10th, 2011, 08:38 AM
Man, this season of Breaking Bad was SO good! And the finale was just the perfect cherry on top. The acting and character development on this show is superb.

** SPOILERS ** Man I really bought it when Walt desperately pleaded to Jesse about how he could never harm a child. Though I understood how Walt was in a downward spiral and had become quite a wicked man, I didn't quite realize just how far he had fallen until the very end. It makes Walters manic cackling in the basement even more impactful in retrospect, almost like that's the moment where his last shred of humanity finally leaves him. I knew that moment was coming but I somehow didn't quite expect to see it this soon, I was still hoping for him to be.. human. And him proudly declaring how he personally had "won" and doing it with such obvious pleasure and satisfaction. It just encapsulates the egocentric sociopath he has become beautifully.

I don't watch very many shows but Breaking Bad makes me think I really should give a few other ones a chance.

Bogey
October 10th, 2011, 09:50 AM
I really need to check out "Breaking Bad." Anyone know if all the episodes are available somewhere?

Seasons 1-3 are on DVD, Netflix, iTunes, etc.

Season 4 is on iTunes.

Kingsqueen
October 10th, 2011, 10:20 AM
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Maybe I'll have some fried chicken for lunch today, in honor of the chicken man...

Kubrick
October 10th, 2011, 10:26 AM
Breaking Bad... wow. Oh my ****ing god.

jerseydevil
October 10th, 2011, 10:27 AM
http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-ash2/274990_1321845974_1787928168_n.jpg

Maybe I'll have some fried chicken for lunch today, in honor of the chicken man...

Speaking of...(from the article posted in #162)


There's been a lot of speculation about Gus' relationship with Max (James Martinez), who we met in the flashback. Do you think they were more than friends?
Esposito: I love that it's not so black and white. Gus took Max off the street in El Salvador and, probably more than any other chemist that Gus has hired, he nurtured Max. It was a long relationship. It's not surprising that people felt that they were lovers because ... their relationship was very, very deep. I think it's less than clear for a reason.


Obviously, Max's death haunted Gus.
Esposito: It's a defining moment in Gus' life, and it's very telling because it allows us to know what made him who he is. To see what got him to be so cool and calculating. He's been sick since that moment. He has not been able to get over it. He has lived his life [trying] to figure out how to get revenge for what happened.


Did anyone else make that connection? While I see it now I still do not think they were lovers. Pollos Hermanos means the brothers chicken, right? Somehow I doubt they would go with 'brothers' is their relationship was different. I love the monday morning dissection.

Kubrick
October 10th, 2011, 10:34 AM
Man, this season of Breaking Bad was SO good! And the finale was just the perfect cherry on top. The acting and character development on this show is superb.

** SPOILERS ** Man I really bought it when Walt desperately pleaded to Jesse about how he could never harm a child. Though I understood how Walt was in a downward spiral and had become quite a wicked man, I didn't quite realize just how far he had fallen until the very end. It makes Walters manic cackling in the basement even more impactful in retrospect, almost like that's the moment where his last shred of humanity finally leaves him. I knew that moment was coming but I somehow didn't quite expect to see it this soon, I was still hoping for him to be.. human. And him proudly declaring how he personally had "won" and doing it with such obvious pleasure and satisfaction. It just encapsulates the egocentric sociopath he has become beautifully.

I don't watch very many shows but Breaking Bad makes me think I really should give a few other ones a chance.

I just keep going back to the scene of Walt in the crawlspace (symbolic of the pits of Hell, anyone?) laughing as he shook loose his humanity (the death of mild-mannered Walt, the husband and father) and his acceptance of his life new life as a no holds-barred criminal. I have a feeling Walt will claim responsibility for the death of Gus and seize control of the cartel. He is Scarface, after all.

SWBKings
October 10th, 2011, 11:13 AM
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JDawg
October 10th, 2011, 12:10 PM
Very glad people are talking about this episode/spoilers now. I apologize as I know this is going to be a long post but I have a lot to say about this show :).

Great great finale. Not surprised that Gus died. I think that was inevitable, and as all the various interviews with Gilligan acknowledge, it kinda had to be that way. I think it was an appropriate death. He was so cold. So calculating. The man planned for everything and even had teh much discussed "gus/spidey sense" in the penultimate episode. BUt it was his full unadulterated hatred for Tio that was his downfall. Absolutely thought of the movie Heat while watching the finale and how Gus met his demise. Sometimes you have to just walk away and not let your emotions get the best of you. I do admit then when I saw Gus walk out of the room I thought back to the scene before in Gus' office where he starts to change. For liek 3 seconds I thought.. no way.. this guy put a bomb suit on?? Just goes tos how you how good this show is. As implausible at it is that Gus figured that Tio might have a bomb in there to blow his ass up, I would have totally gone with it had Gus walked out unscathed.. damn.

As for the poisoning/issue with timing of everything/could Walt do this. I read that some people thought that this was a cheat, or were unhappy with how this went down, but I personally was not at all. I was willing to go with it. I also agree that how Walt acts in the last 2 episodes was completely set up by the final shot of him cackling under the house with 2 episodes left. THat was Walt finally fullyl breaking bad. He is now all Heisenberg IMO. And if you go with the logic that Walt is now fully Heisenberg, that he has given over, he is MUCH more calculating and he is now ready to match wits fully with Gus. This is how it has to go down. This is how he becomes Scarface. I liked the questions that Sepinwall asked in both his review and his interview with Gilligan. How the show sets up everything so meticulously and we see everything, and for the first time here, we were left in the dark. Totally OK with this. The show is allowed to do this IMO. It is plausible that Walt had time to do everything as the show leaves it purposely ambiguou where he was for large chunks of time. I think in the penultimate episode, when he is spinning the gun, he has already formulated the plan. The first 2 spins land on him, and karmically, he probably realizes that he should just kill himself. It synches up with what he told Skyler about this all being his fault and how he hast to handle everything. But Walt's ego/pride won't let him go down that path. So he keeps spinning until the gun points at the plant. This is his excuse for going forward with it. "well.. the gun randomly pointed at teh plant. So its the kid or me." I think Walt was genuinely relieved that Brock didn't die because its how he justifies it to himself. BUt it was really the only move he could make. I also liked Gilligan's explanation that Walt coudl easily have decided to dump the ricin knowing that it would implicate him more.

Hank. Hank will end up looking like a genius in that he had tied it all together. I think the underrated brilliance of Walt's play is that by having Tio take out Gus it looks like total retaliation for Gus taking out the cartel down south. We have to remember that the DEA is still way in the dark about everything. My guess is that the DEA will not suspect Walt at all and will think everything calms down now.

Walt/Jesse and next season. When the show was initially created it was only supposed to be 4 seasons. I would bet that all of this stuff with Gus/the cartel/etc. was what the writers came up with to get an extra season out of everything. Now, we get back to teh core of the show for the end. I would not be surprised if when the show returns we find out that Gus and JEsse have not been cookign for a while and are laying low. Mike will have a say in this somehow. Saul will bubble back up and really want to become the consigliere to Walt now and will push Walt to take over. I do think that the big reveal has to be Jesse at some poitn connecting the dots about the poisoning and that Walt did it. I have no clue how this show will end but I cannot wait to find out. What. A. Show.

Thanks for indulging me on a long rant :).

jerseydevil
October 10th, 2011, 12:34 PM
Well said. Yeah, the fact that the story has been told almost exclusively through Walt's p.o.v. and then changing the game to hide their hand...I had no problem with that. it was so seamless. And, this season, as Walt has been finding his order turned to chaos and his every move checked he has become a little unhinged, which allowed for a change. And I think overall the whole season was told through many perspectives. Gus's certainly, Jesse's, Hank's(with Walt as a passenger)...so I did not even notice that Walt disappeared from his own story. Gilligan speaks about the 'long con' idea where the writers are constantly thinking in advance. I just don't see any seams. I hate to use LOST as an example, but it is the most obvious...while I loved that show it really illustrates just how hard it is to keep all the threads tidy. Add in tv decisions about how long the show will continue and it seems almost impossible. I think that you are right about Gus/Mike/Tio providing Gilligan & company with enough great acting to really pad things out. Reading between the lines, Esposito seems to affirm that. I have to figure that Gilligan has pretty much the entire remaining run mapped out. And that scares me. This season was SO good. So solid. I just know that those last 16 are going to be better...and that bar is set so high already.


Any chance Mike decides that 'here's the new boss, same as the old boss'? I find his character fascinating and he was missed in the finale'...but i really think he is being held for bigger things. God it's going to be a long year.


Shed a tear for the chicken man...rest in peace Gus Fring (hey, it's hinted that isn't really his name. Do you think he purposely chose to name hisself after the yummy combo of fries/rings???)

Ok, Better Call Saul.

JDawg
October 10th, 2011, 02:10 PM
I think you are bang on with the point about how throughout the season we are treated to the p.o.v. of all the characters. Sepinwll I believe made this point during a mid season review, and i have discussed with some friends, how within episodes this season Walt would just disappear. And how the action could be focused on other characters like Skyler/Gus/Jesse/etc. and now because teh show has been going on so long you didn't even really notice. When you combine this with reading Gilligan and how everything is so planned out... it really is like chess. These writers are just 5 moves ahead and really plannign things out and introducing things subtlely.

Interesting that you used LOST as a comparison as I have read people using LOST as an example of how they don't want BB to become that. You risk too much filler and losing people mid way thru. Absolutely would rather have 5 totally connected, tight seasons, then having a couple just OK ones in the middle and getting frustrated by the show.

Mike is a real wild card here going forward. I'd be the proverbial $1 that the writers don't even know how they want to use him yet. I have read interviews where Gilligan says that altho they have some overarching idea where to go, the show really is very much in flux when they write it (see my above post about them adding in Gus) and how they write themselves purposefully into corners and then figure out how to extract themselves. The only obvious non-enlightening thought about Mike is that there will be some sort of pay off there and it will be epic. How's that for a hard hitting prediction!

jerseydevil
October 10th, 2011, 02:21 PM
In his own way...Mike the fixer is really the only one with a true sense of honor. He knows what he is, and in certain moments you can see that it weighs on him, but you always get the feeling that he is unswerving in his beliefs. It was clear when Walt tried to appeal to him that Mike does not betray. He gave Walt an ass whupping in kind of an 'I'm doing this for your own good...now straighten up' way. He did that with Jesse a few times too. I would almost be satisfied with him being the one person who walks away at the end of this. There is a tremendous backstory there in my opinion.

lunchbox
October 10th, 2011, 02:35 PM
ok ya, that was f***ing awesome how he walked out of hector's room and i thought to myself "you have got to be f***ing kidding me" and then they show his blown off face and i'm like "HA!" i feel the same, JD, where i don't want to watch that again so that i'm left with the first reaction.

and omg, walt is diabolical in getting jesse to side with him by poisoning brock. leading him on to think it was the ricin but using something ultimately much less harmful. i agree with the shaking off of humanity when he's in the money pit maniacally laughing, but i think he had an ounce of good in him still by using his chemical know-how and using an everyday garden plant to poison the kid and not the actual chemical poison he'd wanted to use on gus. make no mistake though, i still think he's a conniving bastard.
he's a bumbling fool at times, but he's also very clever.

i can't wait to see what the next 16 episodes hold.

jerseydevil
October 10th, 2011, 02:53 PM
Yeah, just because the poison was from a plant don't fool yourself...i'm pretty sure it was still fairly deadly. Not like the Ricin, which is lethal, but still. And just the fact that he could do that to Jesse...and Jesse legitimately looks up to him and cares for him in his own sick way. Walt is a cruel man. What he once did out of necessity he now does so he can 'win'. The way he sent his neighbor over...the way he casually dispatched the two thugs guarding Jesse. He was so close last week when he gave Skyler the 'consequences' speech. That was his last shred of humanity. And now Jesse, who started out a typical waste/druggie has become a tragic sympathetic figure. The final arc of this story is going to end in tears.

Kubrick
October 10th, 2011, 03:25 PM
In his own way...Mike the fixer is really the only one with a true sense of honor. He knows what he is, and in certain moments you can see that it weighs on him, but you always get the feeling that he is unswerving in his beliefs. It was clear when Walt tried to appeal to him that Mike does not betray. He gave Walt an ass whupping in kind of an 'I'm doing this for your own good...now straighten up' way. He did that with Jesse a few times too. I would almost be satisfied with him being the one person who walks away at the end of this. There is a tremendous backstory there in my opinion.

Mike and Jesse's, mentor/mentee relationship evolved into a mirror image of the relationship that Walt and Jesse used to share. Jesse has moved on from being Walt's apprentice to being Mike's. There seems to be a very strong bond between Mike and Jesse, which has be to crystallized due to Jesse apparently saving Mike's life in the desert, right? Could we be on a collision course pitting Mike and Jesse versus Walt?

jerseydevil
October 10th, 2011, 04:17 PM
He really is the wild card in the mix. I don't expect them to all go happily skipping off hand in hand. 300 or so more days...sheesh!

lunchbox
October 10th, 2011, 04:50 PM
Yeah, just because the poison was from a plant don't fool yourself...i'm pretty sure it was still fairly deadly. Not like the Ricin, which is lethal, but still. And just the fact that he could do that to Jesse...and Jesse legitimately looks up to him and cares for him in his own sick way. Walt is a cruel man. What he once did out of necessity he now does so he can 'win'. The way he sent his neighbor over...the way he casually dispatched the two thugs guarding Jesse. He was so close last week when he gave Skyler the 'consequences' speech. That was his last shred of humanity. And now Jesse, who started out a typical waste/druggie has become a tragic sympathetic figure. The final arc of this story is going to end in tears.

oh ya, just looked it up and it is in fact deadly. whoops, my bad. i somehow thought maybe there was a bit of walt left where he might use something that would severely sicken the boy, but not straight up kill him like the ricin would. guessing he didn't use a chemical compound or it'd be clearly obvious he did it then.
and yes! i forgot about the neighbor. i kept thinking when he called her and asked her to check on the place how truly careless of him that was. they could've killed her as collateral damage and he did not give a f***! wow, haha!

jerseydevil
October 10th, 2011, 06:12 PM
10 Reasons Why 'Breaking Bad' Is the Funniest Show on Television | CraveOnline (http://www.craveonline.com/tv/articles/175890-10-reasons-why-breaking-bad-is-the-funniest-show-on-television)

BREAKING BAD 4.13 'Face Off' | CraveOnline (http://www.craveonline.com/tv/reviews/175880-breaking-bad-413-face-off)


By the end of this episode, Jesse and Walt were finally on good terms again even if their partnership isn't what it was. But if there was anything that could turn Jesse against Walt for good, it would be if he ever learned what really happened to Brock. And then there's the wild card: Mike, who was last seen recovering from a gunshot in Mexico. He's bound to be pissed about the loss of his boss. However, it was a great swerve to make Hector into Walt's surprise ally. I think we all expected an alliance between Walt and Mike, but who could have predicted this?

"Breaking Bad" built this finale up in the brief scenes all season between Gus and Hector; which made their final encounter all the more memorable. That's also an impressive use of the story elements. Almost nothing is wasted on this show and even the loose ends are tantalizing. Walt doesn't even know that Ted is dead yet and Hank has to suspect something is up with him given the way that Walt caused a major accident rather than pull into Gus' laundry complex. The news report only confirmed two deaths in the explosion; which implies that Tyrus may have survived.*****

There were even some great comedic moments, especially when Walt initially failed to grasp that Francesca was blackmailing him. I kept expecting him to threaten her for the number, but instead he caved and got the money she wanted. I think Walt has become too accustomed to using his drug money to buy his way out of trouble. But with Gus gone and the Superlab destroyed, he's bound to be a lot more careful with his money in the final season.

More than anything else, this episode brought a chapter of the series to a successful and satisfying conclusion. Gus will go down as one of the greatest TV villains in recent memory and it's stunning to think that he only had three scenes with Walt in the entire year. This episode wisely kept them apart; which seemed to be a more realistic way to avoid what would have been Walt's certain death. Gus' demise had a slightly cartoonish feel, but I didn't mind. It was also a sequence I had to rewind almost immediately to confirm what I had just seen.

I have no idea what's going to happen in season five of "Breaking Bad," but I can't wait to see what Walt does next.



*****told ya Kingsqueen.

JDawg
October 10th, 2011, 07:50 PM
Is that real about the news report? I could have sworn that Skyler or at some point at the house at the end I heard that 3 people died. The counter to that is that they showed Gus die and the empty blown up chair... but nothign to imply Tyrus survived. I could have sworn tho that I heard 3 people died

lunchbox
October 10th, 2011, 08:16 PM
i also thought they said three people died. BUT, i wondered if the third person might have been another nursing home occupant or worker, like maybe it was that neighbor lady who was waving hello at walt as he hid outside on the window ledge. the other thing is that i'm not sure if i heard them say three confirmed deaths or possibly three deaths, but i definitely heard the number three.

Bogey
October 11th, 2011, 12:59 AM
It was three people confirmed dead.

It was mentioned once on the radio (Walt listening in his car) and again on TV (with the family watching).

jerseydevil
October 11th, 2011, 04:34 AM
I have to watch it again but I am pretty sure they said(on the horribly cheery radio report) that it was as many as 3.

Bogey
October 11th, 2011, 10:52 AM
Radio: "The initial report is, though, that as many as three people may have been killed."

OK, then...

TV: "I'm here at Casa Tranquila where three people are dead following an explosion that rocked this elderly care facility earlier today. The fireball completely consumed one resident's room and damaged common areas nearby."

Bogey
October 11th, 2011, 10:53 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3yAx2uCoHs

jerseydevil
October 11th, 2011, 11:08 AM
Thanks for posting both instances Bogey at least that way it can be understood where the mistake could be made. Appreciate it!

jerseydevil
October 11th, 2011, 05:10 PM
Full Details on AMC's 16-Day Fearfest Hosted by George A. Romero | Horror Movie, DVD, & Book Reviews, News, Interviews at Dread Central (http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/47884/full-details-amcs-16-day-fearfest-hosted-george-romero)


From the Press Release:
AMC announces the launch of its annual AMC FEARFEST, the most highly anticipated horror movie marathon of the Halloween season, on Sunday, October 16th. The 16-day virtual film festival, which kicks off with the 90-minute premiere of ?The Walking Dead? Season Two at 9pm, celebrates the best in contemporary and classic horror genre films.

Hosted by ?Master of Horror? George A. Romero, AMC FEARFEST 2011 will introduce the AMC 14-part original mini-documentary series ?American Haunters? and feature over 300 hours of Halloween-themed programming of more than 60 films, including the world television premiere of Romero?s own Survival of the Dead. In addition to the on-air festivities, AMC FEARFEST will feature daily online interactive movie trivia games and online films. AMC FEARFEST begins Sunday, October 16th, and concludes Tuesday, October 31st.

AMC FEARFEST?s programming specials include:

?AMERICAN HAUNTERS?
AMC FEARFEST invites viewers to take a behind-the-scenes look at Kevin McCurdy?s Haunted Mansion, a real commercial haunted house that features a series of 13 horror-themed rooms. AMC viewers will witness the design process from the initial concept to the intricate design details, as well as the build and reveal of these rooms. The 14-part original mini-documentary series is set to air every weeknight at 8pm and 10pm.

AMC PREMIERE MOVIES
Among a vast library of horror favorites, AMC FEARFEST will present primetime premieres of the following:

The World Television Premiere of Survival of the Dead, debuting October 17, 8pm ET
Diary of the Dead, debuting October 18, 8pm ET
The Hills Have Eyes, debuting October 18, 10pm ET
Flight of the Living Dead: Outbreak on a Plane, debuting October 19, 8pm ET
Slither, debuting October 20, 8pm ET
From Dusk Till Dawn 2: Texas Blood Money, debuting October 22, 10:15pm ET
From Dusk Till Dawn 3: The Hangman's Daughter, debuting October 22, 12:15am ET
Halloween H2O: 20 Years Later, debuting October 28, 8pm ET

In addition, the following movies will also air during AMC FEARFEST: Night of the Living Dead (1968), The Fly (1958 and 1986), Candyman: Farewell to the Flesh (1995), Bride of Frankenstein (1932), The Omen (1976), White Noise (2005), Scream 3 (2000), Cujo (1983), Resident Evil (2002), Halloween (1978), and more.

AMC FEARFEST ONLINE MOVIE TRIVIA
Each day amctv.com will feature an online interactive movie trivia game focusing primarily on horror movies. Fans will be able to take quizzes, earn badges, and challenge friends via Facebook. Movie Trivia Games will cover topics including Friday the 13th, George A. Romero, Halloween, Jamie Lee Curtis, and more.

ONLINE MOVIES
Several zombie and ?B? horror movies will be streamed online at amctv.com in conjunction with both AMC FEARFEST and the premiere of ?The Walking Dead? Season Two, including White Zombie (1932), The Last Man on Earth (1964), Teenage Zombies (1959), Asylum (1972), Carnival of Souls (1962), The Undead (1957), and more.

Pretty cool lineup, right? Fire up those DVR's and celebrate October with AMC FEARFEST 2011!

jerseydevil
October 12th, 2011, 12:21 PM
Steady Leak: Control-Walt-Delete (Breaking Bad Spoilers) | CHUD.com (http://www.chud.com/69908/steady-leak-control-walt-delete-breaking-bad-spoilers/)

This is a GREAT article. If you are watching this show it should sum things up quite nicely. One part hyperbolic praise and one part preview of an obituary for the show. Good stuff. Three days later and 'that scene' is still stuck on a loop in my head. I miss the Chicken Man already.

Kubrick
October 13th, 2011, 10:28 AM
I found this cool Flickr account that has a ton of locations that were used for Breaking Bad.
Flickr: WallDruggie's Photostream (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24869473@N02/with/4475012559/)

Is it odd that I want to have my picture taken in front of the Pollos Hermanos sign?

job
October 13th, 2011, 10:31 AM
Patiently waiting for Mad Men in HD now that DTV put up AMCHD.

jerseydevil
October 13th, 2011, 12:45 PM
I found this cool Flickr account that has a ton of locations that were used for Breaking Bad.
Flickr: WallDruggie's Photostream (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24869473@N02/with/4475012559/)

Is it odd that I want to have my picture taken in front of the Pollos Hermanos sign?


Ummmmmmmm if by odd you mean superdoopercool then yeah.

jerseydevil
October 13th, 2011, 02:58 PM
Watch Two Minutes of The Walking Dead "What Lies Ahead" - ShockTillYouDrop.com (http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=21415)

jerseydevil
October 15th, 2011, 10:50 AM
Man...how bout that Breaking Bad season finale'? Sorry, still on my mind.

But here's some WD news...

‘And You Expect Gratitude??’ More Than Two Minutes Of Footage From Sunday’s Season Premiere Of THE WALKING DEAD, Which Herc Says May Be The Series’ Best Episode Yet!!
Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/51622)


Tomorrow’s long awaited second-season premiere of “The Walking Dead” may be the best of the series to date, loaded as it is with suspense, terror, violence, drama, and, above all, a level of gore that we don’t see often even in a hour of pay cable.

A couple of things happen that are destined to change things rather permanently for lawman Rick Grimes.

The first two episodes don't bring a prison, or a governor, or the return of Michael Rooker's one-handed racist Merle Dixon -- and viewers aren't likely to care.

Ironically, I think this may be the episode that got Frank Darabont fired, since two directors are credited. A key point of contention with AMC, allegedly, is the channel didn’t like the raw footage (or “dailies”) they were getting from a director Darabont hired.


I believe they are doing an all day season 1 marathon too.

jerseydevil
October 15th, 2011, 11:25 AM
HELL ON WHEELS Trailer (http://collider.com/hell-on-wheels-trailer-2/120618/)

Anyone else 'feeling' this? I like the look of it. Colm Meaney is such a hateable bastard. And as a musician Common is a watchable actor. Don't think this will last. Don't think it will have the wide appeal of other AMC fare and I do not trust their execs to allow a clearly expensive show to grow.

roenick
October 15th, 2011, 11:35 PM
HELL ON WHEELS Trailer (http://collider.com/hell-on-wheels-trailer-2/120618/)

Anyone else 'feeling' this? I like the look of it. Colm Meaney is such a hateable bastard. And as a musician Common is a watchable actor. Don't think this will last. Don't think it will have the wide appeal of other AMC fare and I do not trust their execs to allow a clearly expensive show to grow.

I totally like the look and vibe of this. I believe you are right, though, that AMC won't trust it. They blew out Rubicon, which was very good show IMHO.

jerseydevil
October 16th, 2011, 08:59 AM
NYCC: The Walking Dead Panel & Gale Anne Hurd Speaks! - ShockTillYouDrop.com (http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=21458)

Palffy3314
October 16th, 2011, 05:34 PM
Sweet, my AMC HD is 3 hours ahead, so half an hour til season 2 starts!

Dexter
October 16th, 2011, 07:30 PM
That scene on the highway was pretty suspenseful.

JDawg
October 16th, 2011, 10:24 PM
solid first episode back for walking dead. just so hard for me to judge anything right now comign off of breaking bad. but this will hopefully be an enjoyable season.

jerseydevil
October 17th, 2011, 04:04 AM
Dunno...thought it was kinda...meh. The whole 'talking-out-loud-to-Jesus' thing was lazy. And they went to that well twice. Sure the highway scene was tense, but it was overlong. Actually, the whole episode was. No reason that had to be 90 minutes long. If you rewatch/think about it, nothing really happened...and after a year I kinda wanted SOMETHING to happen. And if I am the only one that is pissed off at the tease in the beginning, when Rick is speaking on the walkie talkie and comesthisclose to saying what the guy at the CDC whispered in his ear, then something is really wrong here. The makeup was, as usual, fantastic but some of the off camera sound effects were a little wonky. Like the impromptu zombie autopsy, it kinda sounded like a kid making squelchy fart noises with his mouth. If I seem harsh it's only because the bar was set so high last season...and maybe, just maybe, it was a mistake to follow so closely on the heels of Breaking Bad.

roenick
October 17th, 2011, 07:51 AM
Overall I thought it was ok. The ending was awesome - I really thought they did that very well compared to the comic. The zombie herding was a good add - think Cell by Stephen King. I like the idea. I will say when the showed a lot of scenes in the "this is what will happen this season" it looks like we may get a good ride. I am hopeful.

I agree, though, that some of the 90 minutes seemed like filler. I was pretty ticked off that we had to wait for "coming attractions" at the end of that stupid talk show. AMC is really blowing this. I am surprised at the amount of gore they got away with last night. The motor home/screw driver scene was something.

jerseydevil
October 17th, 2011, 08:14 AM
Overall I thought it was ok. The ending was awesome - I really thought they did that very well compared to the comic. The zombie herding was a good add - think Cell by Stephen King. I like the idea. I will say when the showed a lot of scenes in the "this is what will happen this season" it looks like we may get a good ride. I am hopeful.

I agree, though, that some of the 90 minutes seemed like filler. I was pretty ticked off that we had to wait for "coming attractions" at the end of that stupid talk show. AMC is really blowing this. I am surprised at the amount of gore they got away with last night. The motor home/screw driver scene was something.

Yeah...and this is totally out of character for me to say, it almost seemed excessive. The autopsy, the screwdriver, the church killings...it was like, look at us we are so gory and over-the-top ain't it cool??? I like my violence to have a little more depth/weight to it. But if they are just going to kill the **** out of every zombie then it's going to get old fast. I hate to keep going back to the Breaking Bad well, but that scene...almost comically grotesque, yet it had such an impact because graphic violence is used sparingly. Dunno, maybe I am nitpicking because, with all the turmoil behind the scenes, I am looking for cracks, but really nothing happened to advance the story last night. And with the exception of a few, all the character development was headed in the wrong direction(not very likeable). More storytelling, less gratuitous violence for violence's sake.

jerseydevil
October 17th, 2011, 09:57 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=giAQuLntqXY#!

roenick
October 17th, 2011, 11:26 AM
Yeah...and this is totally out of character for me to say, it almost seemed excessive. The autopsy, the screwdriver, the church killings...it was like, look at us we are so gory and over-the-top ain't it cool??? I like my violence to have a little more depth/weight to it. But if they are just going to kill the **** out of every zombie then it's going to get old fast. I hate to keep going back to the Breaking Bad well, but that scene...almost comically grotesque, yet it had such an impact because graphic violence is used sparingly. Dunno, maybe I am nitpicking because, with all the turmoil behind the scenes, I am looking for cracks, but really nothing happened to advance the story last night. And with the exception of a few, all the character development was headed in the wrong direction(not very likeable). More storytelling, less gratuitous violence for violence's sake.

Agree wholeheartedly on the violence. It did feel like it was over the top. I could understand from a character's perspective that once you got one of those suckers down you would want to make sure they are fully dead. The autopsy was unnecessary IMHO. By what Hurd and others are saying the violence/gore is going to be very heavy this year. To me that doesn't make this good - the drama, like at the end last night, is what makes this show good. Not caring for many of the characters either right now. Andrea has to stop being such a whiny b---h! And Shane? They are off the reservation there - wondering how they are going to tie that all up for us lovers of the comic ...

IceDogsFan
October 17th, 2011, 11:47 AM
Sweet, my AMC HD is 3 hours ahead, so half an hour til season 2 starts!

They should have called it "The Walking Station Break"

Seemed like 5 minutes of program followed by 5 minutes of commercials (repeat 12 times)

jerseydevil
October 17th, 2011, 12:05 PM
They should have called it "The Walking Station Break"

Seemed like 5 minutes of program followed by 5 minutes of commercials (repeat 12 times)

And that's why whoever created TiVo/Dvr technology should be nominated for blessed sainthood!!!!

jerseydevil
October 17th, 2011, 12:11 PM
Agree wholeheartedly on the violence. It did feel like it was over the top. I could understand from a character's perspective that once you got one of those suckers down you would want to make sure they are fully dead. The autopsy was unnecessary IMHO. By what Hurd and others are saying the violence/gore is going to be very heavy this year. To me that doesn't make this good - the drama, like at the end last night, is what makes this show good. Not caring for many of the characters either right now. Andrea has to stop being such a whiny b---h! And Shane? They are off the reservation there - wondering how they are going to tie that all up for us lovers of the comic ...

As far as the 'autopsy' what were they hoping to find/not find? A hand...I kept waiting to see the little girls shirt pop up. But they found a woodchuck skull. Far be it from me to whine but did the decaying zombie(and there's a fallacy with zombies...they are falling apart yet their teeth are pretty capable of tearing/rending) swallow the woodchucks skull whole? And another nitpick zombie logic wise, the forest zombie ate a woodchuck, yet the opening scene in the city had two fairly relaxed looking dogs foraging about. I hate complaining, but the key to the first season was really tight logic for the most part and good storytelling that may have moved so quickly due to the shortened time frame. I saw neither of those things last night. Maybe I am being too cranky...still.

Dexter
October 17th, 2011, 12:34 PM
The Walking Dead Season 2 premiere drew huge mobs of living, breathing Nielsen viewers on Sunday night, shattering a few records along the way.

The AMC series was welcomed back by 7.3 million total viewers in its 9 pm airing — a 38 percent surge over the show’s Season 1 average — with 4.8 million of ‘em falling into the coveted 18-49 demo. That breaks a record for basic cable set nearly 10 years ago, AMC reports.

Walking Dead Season 2 Premiere Ratings Break Records (http://www.tvline.com/2011/10/tvline-items-walking-dead-season-2-premiere-ratings/)

roenick
October 17th, 2011, 01:25 PM
They should have called it "The Walking Station Break"

Seemed like 5 minutes of program followed by 5 minutes of commercials (repeat 12 times)

Yep. During one break I had enough time to go downstairs and spoon out a full bowl of ice cream and still had to sit through three or four more commercials. Then on the next break I was able to get downstairs, wash my bowl, spoon and scoop completely, ask the wife what was going on with Amazing Race, and get back and not miss a thing. That is too many commercials in my mind but AMC is going to squeeze this for every last nickel.

jerseydevil
October 18th, 2011, 04:34 PM
Book Review: The Walking Dead: Rise of The Governor | Geeks of Doom (http://www.geeksofdoom.com/2011/10/18/book-review-the-walking-dead-rise-of-the-governor/)

Dexter
October 23rd, 2011, 08:34 PM
Ugh I hate fast zombies.

Kings Provisional
October 24th, 2011, 12:29 PM
As far as the 'autopsy' what were they hoping to find/not find? A hand...I kept waiting to see the little girls shirt pop up. But they found a woodchuck skull. Far be it from me to whine but did the decaying zombie(and there's a fallacy with zombies...they are falling apart yet their teeth are pretty capable of tearing/rending) swallow the woodchucks skull whole? And another nitpick zombie logic wise, the forest zombie ate a woodchuck, yet the opening scene in the city had two fairly relaxed looking dogs foraging about. I hate complaining, but the key to the first season was really tight logic for the most part and good storytelling that may have moved so quickly due to the shortened time frame. I saw neither of those things last night. Maybe I am being too cranky...still.

Dogs can usually outrun people on their worst days, so I just assumed that those dogs simply can outrun any walker whenever they want. How the forest walker caught a woodchuck is a puzzler.

jerseydevil
October 25th, 2011, 04:34 AM
Ok, that's more like it. An almost zombie free show and bingo, we have a winner. So much better than the 90-minutes-for-commercials-sake premiere. A lot of good stuff here. T-Dog saying basically what a lot of us were thinking, Shane continuing to develop as a very conflicting/conflicted character(he loves Lori, but he loves Rick too), the farmhouse, etc...lots of stuff to like here. I think Andrea was even more pissed at Dale after her close call because she may have realized that she doesn't want to die after all. I have to say, my fave is Darryl. He just quietly keeps surprising. The little fit that made Lori giggle was a funny scene. I do not like the fast walkers either. Shane and (more likely) Otis sure seem to be in a tough spot. I sure hope that they haven't put Pruitt Taylor Vince on just to get killed after one episode. Scott Wilson as Hershell is as great as I thought it would be. Still wondering what happened to the little girl. I have a feeling that a death is very closely on the horizon. This show has to sacrifice somone in order to keep the 'anybody can die at anytime' personality of the comics. After, what I thought was, a stinker of a premiere, the second season is officially underway.

jerseydevil
October 25th, 2011, 01:37 PM
from the WELL DUUUUUUUUUUH department...


THE WALKING DEAD Renewed for a Third Season (http://collider.com/the-walking-dead-season-3-renewed/122354/)

jerseydevil
October 29th, 2011, 10:43 AM
Did You Know There Was A BREAKING BAD Prequel Covering Jesse Pinkman’s High School Years? | CHUD.com (http://www.chud.com/72628/did-you-know-there-was-a-breaking-bad-prequel-covering-jesse-pinkmans-high-school-years/)


So as it turns out, those interested in the high school years of Breaking Bad’s Jesse Pinkman, played by the Emmy-winning Aaron Paul, can get a small taste. It’s not a new mini-series, or a web featurette, or a feature film spin-off…

It’s a 2002 Korn video.

Before I lose you though, note that not only does this video for the band’s single “Thoughtless” star Aaron Paul as a scrawny high school kid with ****ty facial hair and an attitude, but he’s also a marginalized loner who’s prone to sketching. And while there’s no Mr. White cameo (I’m sure there will be a cut on YouTube soon that does), we do see Jesse in the science lab and having problems at home.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVPvzX-AeSM&feature=player_embedded

KingsOvAllKings
October 30th, 2011, 12:48 PM
Is it just me or does it seem like they are cutting costs this season what with all the implied butchering and killing where its just a character smashing a zombie and all you hear are splashes and squishes? Im not sure if last season they would of showed all that gore or if its just my bias because i know they cut their budgets.

roenick
October 30th, 2011, 07:12 PM
Wow is all I can say. Shane is more like the comic book character all the time. Great episode.

Dexter
October 30th, 2011, 08:51 PM
Can't blame him for doing that. Survival.

chaingunsofdoom
October 31st, 2011, 06:19 AM
~69% in the poll last night said they would run with Otis, and The Talking Dead point remains: why the leg shot? Still totally awesome episode though. The hanging zombie was epic!

roenick
October 31st, 2011, 07:44 AM
Can't blame him for doing that. Survival.

Yeah but the living with one's self for doing it would be the hard part ... and the hanging zombie was awesome. Gotta love Darryl "Waste of an arrow." HAHAHA!!

jerseydevil
October 31st, 2011, 08:54 AM
~69% in the poll last night said they would run with Otis, and The Talking Dead point remains: why the leg shot? Still totally awesome episode though. The hanging zombie was epic!

That's easy...leg shot because you have to give the walkers live bait. That was a tough call. On one hand, it's a heartless act...but, like Lori/Andrea have said, the world has changed. The needs of the many and all that. Who had a better chance of getting away, a hobbled shane or an overweight Otis. I would like to think that Shane was being entirely selfless and thinking only of who had a better chance of getting both backpacks back, but that would be wrong. It's that animal brain kicking in and the desire to live despite the cost. As far as living with himself, Shane has all kinds of guilt already hanging around, what's a little more. It isn't like he doesn't have distractions. And if you didn't see it coming I'm surprised.
Darryl continues to grow as the best character on the show. Should be reallllllllllllll interesting when Merle finally comes back. BTW someone said that last week when Darryl pulled out Merle's stash there was a bunch of blue meth in the bottom of the bag. Anyone catch that?

roenick
October 31st, 2011, 09:05 AM
That's easy...leg shot because you have to give the walkers live bait. That was a tough call. On one hand, it's a heartless act...but, like Lori/Andrea have said, the world has changed. The needs of the many and all that. Who had a better chance of getting away, a hobbled shane or an overweight Otis. I would like to think that Shane was being entirely selfless and thinking only of who had a better chance of getting both backpacks back, but that would be wrong. It's that animal brain kicking in and the desire to live despite the cost. As far as living with himself, Shane has all kinds of guilt already hanging around, what's a little more. It isn't like he doesn't have distractions. And if you didn't see it coming I'm surprised.
Darryl continues to grow as the best character on the show. Should be reallllllllllllll interesting when Merle finally comes back. BTW someone said that last week when Darryl pulled out Merle's stash there was a bunch of blue meth in the bottom of the bag. Anyone catch that?

It was obvious that Shane was having an issue with what he did but he has that 'rat in the cage' thing going inside his brain it is obvious. And yes I noticed the blue meth - there was a lot of it. Darryl did say something like "crystal ..."

I am also interested to see where Darryl goes once Merle comes back in the picture. He has obviously grown into this groups dynamic and has a firm part in it but it will be very interesting to see where seeing Merle again will take him. Those who read the comic know where this is obviously heading ... but it is a bit different.

jerseydevil
October 31st, 2011, 02:02 PM
It was obvious that Shane was having an issue with what he did but he has that 'rat in the cage' thing going inside his brain it is obvious. And yes I noticed the blue meth - there was a lot of it. Darryl did say something like "crystal ..."

I am also interested to see where Darryl goes once Merle comes back in the picture. He has obviously grown into this groups dynamic and has a firm part in it but it will be very interesting to see where seeing Merle again will take him. Those who read the comic know where this is obviously heading ... but it is a bit different.

Yeah despite all the protests to the contrary I cannot see Merle not being the, well, you know. If he is going to make it on this season they have been really tight lipped about it. I could actually see Darryl siding with the group. He seems to have some resentment towards Merle even though he is family. Regardless I hope his character sticks around. I have always liked Reedus(Blade 2 especially). Hell, I said the same thing about Pruitt Taylor Vince last week and look where that ended up...ok, I hate Reedus/Darryl and I want him to die. If you have read the comics, I have a hard time buying that Dale/Andrea is going to turn out the same way. We shall see.

jerseydevil
November 3rd, 2011, 01:06 PM
'Hell on Wheels' Cast Interviews | CraveOnline (http://www.craveonline.com/tv/interviews/177337-hell-on-wheels-cast-interviews)

Starts Sunday I think. Feel like this could be a keeper if given a chance. Due to the obvious cost, it's going to need to perform out of the gate. Give it a go people, that's all I ask.

roenick
November 3rd, 2011, 10:14 PM
HOW looks real interesting to me. It always comes down to me remembering when it is on.

jerseydevil
November 3rd, 2011, 10:18 PM
HOW looks real interesting to me. It always comes down to me remembering when it is on.

I will be SURE to bang the drum.

jerseydevil
November 6th, 2011, 01:43 PM
Dominique McElligott HELL ON WHEELS Interview (http://collider.com/dominique-mcelligott-hell-on-wheels-interview/124945/)

STARTS TONIGHT, watch it or be left out!

Dexter
November 6th, 2011, 08:09 PM
That well zombie was one ugly mother.

jerseydevil
November 6th, 2011, 08:30 PM
ruh-roh
Hercules Says AMC’s New Western Series HELL ON WHEELS Is One Of Autumn’s Biggest Disappointments!!
Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/51858)


AMC’s “Hell On Wheels” is one of the season’s bigger disappointments, a Western mostly about a former Confederate soldier plotting vengeance for the rape and murder of his wife – even as he supervises former slaves building the Union Pacific transcontinental railroad.

It comes to us from brothers Joe and Tony Gayton, who scripted the 2010 Dwayne Johnson vehicle “Faster” (27% positive reviews among top critics on Rotten Tomatoes!). It stars Anson Mount (“Line of Fire,” “Straw Dogs”), Colm Meaney (“Deep Space Nine,” “Get Him To The Greek”), Common (“Terminator Salvation”), Dominique McElligott (“The Philanthropist”) and Ted Levine (“Silence of the Lambs,” “Monk”).

“Wheels” is one of the least politically correct series on American TV. The native Americans are introduced as perfectly despicable bloodthirsty savages, the term “******” finds its way into a lot of dialogue, and there’s even a curse word in the show’s title.

The best thing about its first episode is a harrowing Indian attack. The project struggles, though, almost everywhere else, offering bland characters, clumsy dialogue and plotting that holds few surprises.

Its titles are almost desperately evocative of HBO’s much better “Deadwood.”

(It’s slightly interesting to note that AMC sort of got into the original-drama game in the “Deadwood” era with the 2006 Robert Duvall miniseries “Broken Trail.” Duvall told Howard Stern at the time that he hated “Deadwood,” whose pilot was directed by Walter Hill – the same guy who directed the “Broken Trail.”)

jerseydevil
November 6th, 2011, 09:42 PM
HELL ON WHEELS Series Premiere Review (http://collider.com/hell-on-wheels-series-premiere-review/125118/)

roenick
November 7th, 2011, 11:47 AM
Not really sure how I feel about Hell On Wheels. Felt like there could have been so much more there. I will give it another week to see.

Dexter
November 7th, 2011, 12:23 PM
Yeah, it was a bit of a letdown.

jerseydevil
November 7th, 2011, 08:33 PM
How To Make A Monster, Baby! A Behind-the-Scenes Look at The Walking Dead Zombie Make-Up | Horror Movie, DVD, & Book Reviews, News, Interviews at Dread Central (http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/48635/how-make-monster-baby-behind-scenes-look-walking-dead-zombie-make)


We stumbled upon a cool post today that we just had to share with you. Have you ever wondered what goes into the creation of a zombie from "The Walking Dead"? Take a look at a step-by-step pictorial that shows actor Kevin Galbraith going from a regular handsome guy to a flesh-craving zombie.



Good episode last night, and if you saw the teaser for next week...SPOILERS...somebody is coming back. Before you all get too comfy thinking that the show is just as good, remember, we will not know until after the hiatus(in 3 more weeks?) what the show will look like post-Darabont.

jerseydevil
November 13th, 2011, 12:11 PM
Finally watched Hell on Wheels. Hmmm, sort of a misfire ain't it? The biggest complaint is that there is nothing SPECIAL about this show that says it belongs in the same company of AMC/Fx's other great shows. As a matter of fact, outside of a few clumsy bits of violence, it could very well be on one of the major networks. It looks a little stage-y too, which is disappointing. It's full of stock characters doing stock things in a stock plot. I think Common is likeable enough as an actor but he ain't no Denzel(in GLORY). The lead is ok...not given much to do. I think your enjoyment of this depends on how you feel about watching Colm Meany channel Jon Lovitz's Master Thespian( I'M ACTING!!!!!!!). Me, not a big fan. I'll give it another try tonight and maybe even next week but I need to see a little something to justify keeping this on a busy dvr.

jerseydevil
November 13th, 2011, 01:05 PM
Thunderstruck Bringing UFOs to AMC | Horror Movie, DVD, & Book Reviews, News, Interviews at Dread Central (http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/48749/thunderstruck-bringing-ufos-amc)


It appears to lean more toward the sci-fi side of the fence than pure horror, but considering its pedigree, which includes the team who wrote and directed The Exorcism of Emily Rose, we'd be remiss if we didn't mention AMC's acquisition of "Thunderstruck", a new series about powerful and enigmatic alien entities that begin appearing all over the world.

Deadline tells us that "Thunderstruck" is an hour-long UFO project from feature writing/directing duo Paul Boardman and Scott Derrickson (the aforementioned Emily Rose) and former "Battlestar Galactica" executive producer David Eick. Boardman and Derrickson will write the drama, Boardman and Derrickson will executive produce with Eick, and Derrickson is set to direct.

As for those "entities", after one shows up in the town of Great Falls, Montana, the local citizens must grapple with the dramatic effects and growing mystery of repeated visitations.


Ok, I'm listening...

Dexter
November 13th, 2011, 07:59 PM
Um. Preacher is crazy y'all.

roenick
November 13th, 2011, 09:01 PM
HoW was much better tonight. Liked it a lot.

IceDogsFan
November 13th, 2011, 10:34 PM
Anybody else sick of the "search for Sophia" theme in Walking Dead? What is it, 4 episodes now? Come on people, get on with it.

Dexter
November 14th, 2011, 02:20 AM
Yep. I can't believe they are still searching. Is this still following the novels? I mean the preacher is, but the search for the stupid kid?

jerseydevil
November 14th, 2011, 10:16 AM
Yep. I can't believe they are still searching. Is this still following the novels? I mean the preacher is, but the search for the stupid kid?

As far as Sophia, I don't even remember her getting lost in the comics. Keep in mind Darryl isn't even in the comics. I think Sophia being lost has been more of a plot-device for his character than anything else. The return of Merle was a bit of a cheat, but I will forgive it. The reveal at the end...that's a good one and it's gonna blow the whole Herschel's people vs. Rick's people wide open. Anyone find themselves siding with Shane more and more. He's not a bad man, just doing what he thinks is right, minus all the hand-wringing doubt that made me HATE Rick in the comics.

By the way, glad to hear that HoW was better last night. And of course the preacher is nutty, it's Tom Noonan for ****s sake. NOBODY does kooky better.

roenick
November 14th, 2011, 10:59 AM
So are we talking the preacher in HoW? Or am I lost on Walking??

Agree on Herschel's barn being the galvanizing thing here. They did a great job with it by the way. Looked like I fully expected there!

jerseydevil
November 14th, 2011, 11:02 AM
So are we talking the preacher in HoW? Or am I lost on Walking??

Agree on Herschel's barn being the galvanizing thing here. They did a great job with it by the way. Looked like I fully expected there!

Yeah, I think as far as preacher we are talking about HoW, it just kinda got mixed together there...right Dex?

Dexter
November 14th, 2011, 01:31 PM
Ha I didn't even watch Hell on Wheels. I was talking about Herschel's secret in the barn. I feel bad for Glenn, he has to keep so many secrets now.

roenick
November 14th, 2011, 09:24 PM
Yeah Hershcel is somewhat off the rez when it comes to his barn. I love they are following this from the books. It's going to be powder-keg good next week.

Agree with you jd that show 7 will really tell us how this is all going to go. After a so-so first epi I think they did a very good job since with the four other epi's.

jerseydevil
November 14th, 2011, 10:09 PM
Yeah Hershcel is somewhat off the rez when it comes to his barn. I love they are following this from the books. It's going to be powder-keg good next week.

Agree with you jd that show 7 will really tell us how this is all going to go. After a so-so first epi I think they did a very good job since with the four other epi's.

'specially since there is going to be a few weeks off in between. The good thing is that AMC in their infinite mercenary mentality will no doubt repeat the first 6 almost on a loop. I agree about the first episode, think stretching (a thin) 45 minutes into an hour and a half is what did it in.

jerseydevil
November 14th, 2011, 11:40 PM
Matthew Weiner Talks About How MAD MEN Will End (http://collider.com/matthew-weiner-how-mad-men-ends/126568/)

jerseydevil
November 21st, 2011, 10:15 AM
I wish they would end the Sophia suspense already. Wasn't expecting(although I should have) the Shane/Andrea hook-up. The scene between Dale and Shane was pretty damned good, but can't help feeling that this was a little wheel spinning. Gotta love Dale, he's like the Obiwan of the group. No surprise because DeMunn is always great. Can we lose T-dog already. Talk about having nothing to do. So, we have the halfway marker next week...overall I have to give the season a B-/C+ so far. There has to be a little more story movement. Waiting almost a year for the next season tends to make one antsy.

As far as Hell on Wheels, I almost gave up on it last week. How do you avoid hanging for killing your supervisor...apply for his job. Virtually rendering 'The Swede'(awesome b.t.w.) impotent. Gonna watch last nights episode and maybe make my decision. Anyone else give up/still aboard? I want to like this show, they are making it VERY difficult with ****ty writing.

roenick
November 21st, 2011, 11:42 AM
So I loved Walking last night. Andrea is becoming that sharp shooting tough nut that she is in the comics. Great character development for her. The Herschel/Rick thing is getting real good too. And the giving the chickens to the barn walkers was something I never considered! Liked last night very much. Really interested to see what happens at show 7+ tho.

I need to watch the full HoW epi. Had kid's stuff going last night and only saw last 15 mins. Bohannon is a character I am really intrigued by but like you jd the pathetic writing is leading me to pass on this show ... like the British widow as well but have no idea where that is going ...