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CIrvine
March 21st, 2018, 07:55 AM
So when did Zayn and Owens become best friends again?

ucsdguy1
March 21st, 2018, 08:06 AM
So when did Zayn and Owens become best friends again?
ding ding ding

they sure didn't waste any time getting daniel some bumps


do not c-block the monster among men


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TooCool
March 21st, 2018, 09:26 AM
So when did Zayn and Owens become best friends again?

When Shane screwed them both at Fastlane. :)

I don't think they explained why they're best friends again... at least I don't think they did. Shane was just a common enemy that has been screwing them for months, so that's why they're working together. I guess having them come out during the same entrance and acting like everything was normal was quite odd.

But as for Daniel Bryan, what a segment to close the show. When was the last time you saw a crowd that hot? Oh yeah... when Daniel Bryan was wrestling! They had to have been planning to clear him this whole time, because I can't imagine how the story would play out if he wasn't cleared.

Now to think of all the potential matches we can see working a match against Daniel. We got AJ Styles, Shinsuke Nakamura, Kevin Owens, Sami Zayn, and Finn Balor. Then when Johnny Gargano and Adam Cole get called up... holy moly.

Hell, you can easily set up the feud between Daniel Bryan and Miz as well. We already know how much they hate each other.

Obviously the biggest worry is that if Daniel Bryan gets another concussion, he's 100% finished. But if he can stay healthy this will be amazing not only for him but for WWE. Hopefully they don't make him work too many house shows.


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As for the Mixed Matched Challenge there are lots of people whining about Miz and Asuka winning mainly because of Asuka's undefeated streak. Kind of odd that the streak counts in a Mixed Tag Match when all throughout NXT, she could lose in multi-person matches and it wasn't considered a loss for her since she never got pinned.

Alexa/Braun is fun to watch though. Hopefully they can continue some kind of storyline on RAW instead of just ending it abruptly just because they're eliminated.

ucsdguy1
March 22nd, 2018, 09:40 AM
Pete Dunne and Broderick Strong should win the tag tournament and the titles. In fact Pete Dunne should just own every title there is.

TooCool
March 22nd, 2018, 11:25 AM
Pete Dunne and Broderick Strong should win the tag tournament and the titles. In fact Pete Dunne should just own every title there is.

Oh man! Pete Dunne. Add him to the list I want to see Daniel Bryan wrestle.

ucsdguy1
March 22nd, 2018, 12:18 PM
Oh man! Pete Dunne. Add him to the list I want to see Daniel Bryan wrestle.
dangerously close..

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TooCool
March 26th, 2018, 09:27 AM
Okay, so I bought WWE2K18 over the weekend on my PS4 because it was 55% off (Digital Deluxe edition that was originally $90) and I used the 20% off code that Sony sent. So it was like 32 bucks total?

Went in to WWE Universe mode. Had Rusev defeat Jinder Mahal for the WWE Title and also had Heath Slater defeat Brock Lesnar for the Universal Title on RAW. All is right with the world.

ucsdguy1
March 27th, 2018, 08:16 AM
I was very close to paying $90 or so and hitting up the New Japan event in Long Beach sunday, but chickened out. Finished watching on tv though. Crowd was not as loud as I expected. Might have been cameras or microphone placement, as the video guys seemed to be in the wrong places for certain big spots throughout the evening. Probably a 4 hour event was a bit draining too. But, they eventually woke up during the second half of Ibushi/Omega vs Young Bucks. What a match. Roughly 45 minutes, lots of good spots. Matt sold the back injury so well, and Omega not wanting to finish off his friends while Matt daring him to keep attacking played out emotion like crazy. I feel like if it was more of an old school ecw or takeover type crowd it would only have heightened it that much more. But again hopefully that was just how the mics picked up on tv. I hope there are many more matches with these guys ahead I can watch.

Oh and they announced NJPW will be back in July at the Cow Palace in SF

ucsdguy1
March 27th, 2018, 04:16 PM
Interesting, wwe announced Charlotte Flair is out of the mixed match challenge with an injury. Gave fans options of Lynch, Lana, or Carmella as replacement partner to vote for.

Hopefully nothing serious for Wrestlemania..

TooCool
March 27th, 2018, 06:31 PM
Rusev is in the Fatal Four Way!!!!! Rusevmania crowd will definitely take over.

ucsdguy1
March 27th, 2018, 08:05 PM
Rusev is in the Fatal Four Way!!!!! Rusevmania crowd will definitely take over.
They better!

TooCool
March 27th, 2018, 11:08 PM
We're looking at 14 matches for Wrestlemania next Sunday. Holy moly...

WWE Universal Title Match
Brock Lesnar vs. Roman Reigns

WWE Title Match
AJ Styles vs. Shinsuke Nakamura

WWE Intercontinental Title Match
The Miz vs. Seth Rollins vs. Finn Balor

WWE United States Title Match
Randy Orton vs. Bobby Roode vs. Jinder Mahal vs. Rusev

WWE Raw Women's Title Match
Alexa Bliss vs. Nia Jax

WWE Smackdown Women's Title Match
Charlotte Flair vs. Asuka

WWE Raw Tag Team Title Match
The Bar vs. Braun Strowman & TBA

WWE Smackdown Tag Team Title Match
The Usos vs. The New Day vs. The Bludgeon Brothers

WWE Cruiserweight Title Match
Cedric Alexander vs. Mustafa Ali

Undertaker vs. John Cena

Mixed Tag Team Match
Ronda Rousey & Kurt Angle vs. Stephanie McMahon & Triple H

Daniel Bryan & Shane McMahon vs. Sami Zayn & Kevin Owens
If Owens & Zayn win, they will be reinstated; if they lose, they will remain fired

Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal
Dolph Ziggler, Baron Corbin, Mojo Rawley, Tyler Breeze, Fandango, Tye Dillinger, Dash Wilder, Scott Dawson, Matt Hardy, others TBA

WrestleMania Women's Battle Royal
Sasha Banks, Natalya, Ruby Riott, Sarah Logan, Liv Morgan, Becky Lynch, Naomi, Bayley, others TBA

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What are your guesses for matches that are regulated to the pre-show? I'm thinking it has to be the Cruiserweight Championship, Men's Battle Royal.... and probably the Fatal Four Way for the US Title.

Since the Women's Battle Royal is "history in the making", that can't be part of the pre-show. And everything else in the WWE's eyes are likely more important than the 3 I listed. Though I guess technically the RAW Tag Title match can be on the pre-show too.

ucsdguy1
March 28th, 2018, 09:07 AM
I'm drained just looking at that lineup. 6+ hours. There's no way I can sit through the entire thing, I imagine I'm going to be forwarding through parts after a delayed start. I fear many of the matches that could be great will be watered down due to timing.

Women's battle royal should be on the main show. Mostly because it's probably going to further sasha/bayley (PS liked their segment a lot monday. I'm still not sure who is turning heel exactly but it came off well). Men's battle royal is fine on pre-show as there's really nothing of notable interest in it. I would say Cruiserweight title as well. I would say US title is on the main show given the amount of time they've given it on Smackdown. And Rusev does not get relegated to pre-show on Rusev Day. They could pull a fast one and put Reigns/Lesnar on the pre show? ha ha ha.

LetTigerIn
March 28th, 2018, 09:08 AM
I'm excited to see TBA at Wrestlemania. My favourite wrestler!

ucsdguy1
March 28th, 2018, 09:29 AM
I'm excited to see TBA at Wrestlemania. My favourite wrestler!

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ucsdguy1
March 29th, 2018, 10:03 AM
Okay so I am salivating over the NXT: Takeover card.

I have my issues with yet another belt (North American Title), however a ladder match with freaking Lars Sullivan, Killian Dane, EC3, Adam Cole, Velveteen Dream, Ricochet....holy hell.

Black/Almas should be awesome because you know it will get a lot of time. Almas' last few matches have all been fantastic.

Ciampa/Gargano - finally. be ready for a war. Crowd should be electric for this one.

Dunne/Strong vs AoP: Now obviously in my perfect world, Dunne would compete in the ladder match, win it, then go on to win the tag team finals with Strong. Okay that obviously won't happen. But this should also be a stiff, stiff match

Baszler/Moon: probably my lowest on the card sad to say, but hoping for something entertaining. PS, is Dakota Kai a very strange yet miniscule Bayley meets TJ Perkings mesh?


Editor's note: it might be that the Dunne/Strong vs AoP match is next week, with the title shot at Takeover? I am a little turned around on that one.

TooCool
March 29th, 2018, 11:25 AM
Okay so I am salivating over the NXT: Takeover card.

I have my issues with yet another belt (North American Title), however a ladder match with freaking Lars Sullivan, Killian Dane, EC3, Adam Cole, Velveteen Dream, Ricochet....holy hell.

Black/Almas should be awesome because you know it will get a lot of time. Almas' last few matches have all been fantastic.

Ciampa/Gargano - finally. be ready for a war. Crowd should be electric for this one.

Dunne/Strong vs AoP: Now obviously in my perfect world, Dunne would compete in the ladder match, win it, then go on to win the tag team finals with Strong. Okay that obviously won't happen. But this should also be a stiff, stiff match

Baszler/Moon: probably my lowest on the card sad to say, but hoping for something entertaining. PS, is Dakota Kai a very strange yet miniscule Bayley meets TJ Perkings mesh?


Editor's note: it might be that the Dunne/Strong vs AoP match is next week, with the title shot at Takeover? I am a little turned around on that one.

Man, crazy as this might sound but Ciampa/Gargano needs to be the main event.

Yeah, the North American Title is weird... I get that it can be a mid-card title like the IC/US Title.. but why not just use the UK Title for that? (Speaking of titles, dirt sheets are saying we'll get Cruiserweight Tag Titles after WM... and Raw and Smackdown Women Tag Titles by Summerslam. Now they're just going plain overboard.) But yeah, that ladder match is stacked!

Black/Almas should be fun and I think Black will get his run with the NXT Title here.

Weakest match on the card is definitely Moon/Baszler. Do they push Baszler here or what?

Either way, we know TakeOver will be fun as hell. And it's not going to be 6-7 hours like WM.

ucsdguy1
April 3rd, 2018, 09:58 AM
Nothing earth shattering last night.

The opening segment was boring. Credit Rousey for taking a bump on a table, but the dialogue did nothing and she's still terrible on the mic.

Reigns/Lesnar/Heyman was par for the course. I like the slow draw out of Bayley and Sasha. Sasha telling her to raise her arm and grab Bayley's face made me want her to take a gut punch (which she about did). Ease this out and let them have a longer match at a future ppv. Oh and I believe they mentioned on Raw the women's battle royal will be on the WM kickoff show?

I'm also bored beyond belief of Cena calling out the Undertaker. Make it happen already. And surprise show up at Wrestlemania, I mean who wouldn't see that coming.

Of course the best part is that Braun Strowman is a genius (no pun intended). You've met Braun, I'm Brain....Hawkins asking to be his partner and getting a "break". They could have made a few segments on this over the past few weeks with different wrestlers trying to become his partner and getting annihilated. Elias is so over (what the hell was he wearing last night?). he should be the one.

LetTigerIn
April 3rd, 2018, 10:11 AM
I want to see when Brain and Braun eventually split up and start feuding.

TooCool
April 3rd, 2018, 01:31 PM
Oh and I believe they mentioned on Raw the women's battle royal will be on the WM kickoff show?



Yep. Both Men and Women's Battle Royal are on the Pre-show. The Cruiserweight Title match is also on the Pre-Show.... it's part of the reason why Austin Aries and Neville quit because they don't get residuals from the DVD (since they leave out pre-show matches)

ucsdguy1
April 3rd, 2018, 01:44 PM
Yep. Both Men and Women's Battle Royal are on the Pre-show. The Cruiserweight Title match is also on the Pre-Show.... it's part of the reason why Austin Aries and Neville quit because they don't get residuals from the DVD (since they leave out pre-show matches)
ah that sucks!

ucsdguy1
April 4th, 2018, 08:41 AM
Rusev Machka! Dare I say, Rusev was sort of being treated as a face last night? Kind of an uneventful match, but clean win over Mahal? I'll take it. I have zero confidence they'll let him win the belt on Sunday, especially as the match concluded with a Roode/Orton staredown. But momentum is momentum.

McMahon and Bryan were a bit too chummy chummy last night. Doesn't pass the smell test. Dare I say, Bryan turns on McMahon and goes heel at WM?? Okay probably not. Perhaps a Shane heel turn? Or Shane stressing that owens and zayn will not be seen on "Smackdown" would lead me to believe they'll surely be drafted on raw after they lose. (I would have preferred a 1 on 1 match between them with the loser being fired, whereas perhaps only 1 heads to Raw, but what can you do)

Miz/Asuke beat Roode/Charlotte in the mixed match challenge. File this under:

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LetTigerIn
April 4th, 2018, 08:57 AM
I still think if Sami gets fired, they should try to hire El Generico.

TooCool
April 4th, 2018, 12:56 PM
Rusev Machka! Dare I say, Rusev was sort of being treated as a face last night? Kind of an uneventful match, but clean win over Mahal? I'll take it. I have zero confidence they'll let him win the belt on Sunday, especially as the match concluded with a Roode/Orton staredown. But momentum is momentum.

McMahon and Bryan were a bit too chummy chummy last night. Doesn't pass the smell test. Dare I say, Bryan turns on McMahon and goes heel at WM?? Okay probably not. Perhaps a Shane heel turn? Or Shane stressing that owens and zayn will not be seen on "Smackdown" would lead me to believe they'll surely be drafted on raw after they lose. (I would have preferred a 1 on 1 match between them with the loser being fired, whereas perhaps only 1 heads to Raw, but what can you do)

Rusev winning clean makes me sad mainly because we know that anyone who gets the "advantage" heading into a PPV always loses. Just look at the obvious result on RAW where Steph got to put Rousey through a table. We all know HHH/Steph has no business winning, so they had to look strong on the RAW before the PPV. But who knows right? Hopefully WWE is finally smart enough to capitalize on RusevMania when the crowd goes nuts for Rusev.

And good theory about the heel turn. Do they turn Daniel heel or do they turn Shane heel? I think Daniel is too popular to turn heel.. but Vince does hate that he gets easily cheered over Roman, so that could be why Daniel turns heel. Shane turning heel works too because he's a McMahon. Plus it allows Daniel to have matches with Owens and Zayn down the line. However... is it wise for Daniel to lose in his 1st match back? They could always just have Daniel/Shane win and then on Smackdown they get a new GM and he'll re-hire Owens and Zayn.

I'm just expecting some funky results because Vince is all about "Wrestlemania moments" now and the right winners don't always win anymore.

ucsdguy1
April 4th, 2018, 03:24 PM
the horror

http://wrestlingnews.co/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Shawn-Michaels-haircut.jpg

TooCool
April 4th, 2018, 03:55 PM
the horror

http://wrestlingnews.co/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Shawn-Michaels-haircut.jpg

Why Shawn Why!

CIrvine
April 5th, 2018, 07:55 AM
Why Shawn Why!
He lost a bet with Bret Hart.

ucsdguy1
April 5th, 2018, 09:12 AM
He lost a bet with Bret Hart.
I blame Earl Hebner

Also, my pick for commissioner to replace Bryan now that he'll be wrestling: J E double F, J A double R e double T.....?

ucsdguy1
April 6th, 2018, 08:27 AM
Nothing earth shattering on NXT this week, but I am jacked up for takeover this week.

AoP vs Strong/Dunne: short before the interference, but damn pretty fast paced and VERY strong style-esque. Looks like Adam Cole will step in on the tag team title match. Oh and now a triple threat tag match between AoP, Undisputed, and Dunne/Roderick? Going to be a war! Cole may be forced to wrestle in both the tag match and the ladder match.

You ever notice how before a 4 or 5 or 6 man match at a ppv they'll do a raw/smackdown where all the guys end up in the ring for a staredown? It never really does much for me. Yet having Kain/Sullivan/Velveteen/EC3/Ricochet/Cole in the ring at the same time? Got me hyped!! (how good was "adam cole baby" vs. "vel-ve-teen" from the crowd) My guess is one of EC3/Ricochet/Velveteen wins the match. They've seen setting up Velveteen Dream running smack on new indie guys, and would start an easy feud should one of them come on top (i suppose this could happen even if neither win the title). Not sure where they really have to go with Dain, but Sullivan could be a fun north american champ for guys to chase after too.

Well then let's get to predictions:

Ciampa/Johnny Wrestling: I find it hard to believe that after a heel turn and waiting so long to get this match going they'd let Ciampa lose. Nevertheless you can't let Gargano leave. I'll say Ciampa wins with some version of cheating, and Regal allows one follow up match (steel cage and/or other other special match for it all at the following ppv)

Cien/Black: It's Black's time. This should be a long and awesomely stiff yet fast paced match. Cien looks like he's almost ready to hit the next level.

Triple threat tag match: My heart says Dunne/Strong. My mind says Undisputed Era. I'm going with undisputed finding a way to win. AoP looks set to move on soon. Dunne already has the european title. This would keep Undisputed's credibility going until the injury subsides. Where Strong goes, I'm not sure.

North American Title Ladder Match: who the #$*& (http://letsgokings.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=%24%2A%26) knows? Because he's been hot as hell, and the crowds increasingly like him, in a surprise I'm going Velveteen Dream. He deserves it. And I assume after the match he'll probably get destroyed by one of the other combatants to set up a follow up feud.

Baszler/Moon: They might be willing to let Baszler have it, but I'm going to say Moon keeps the title. Baszler can have follow up feuds with Dakota Kai or Kairi Sane in the interim before she gets the title again. Or Baszler wins and feuds with the girls the same way. But if Moon loses where does she go from there?

ucsdguy1
April 6th, 2018, 08:46 AM
too many matches on WM to concentrate on, so here are a few bold predictions, most of which have about 0.006% chance of happening:

- Big Cass or Sama Joe return, enter and win the andre the giant battle royal
- Curt Hawkins win the battle royal, and the crowd goes wild
- Strowman brings out The Big Show or Samoa Joe as his partner
- Strowman brings out Lars Sullivan for his tag match, by which they demolish the bar and win. Sullivan then goes back to NXT, Strowman claims he was only ordered to have a partner for one match at wm, and goes on to defend the titles on his own.
- Elias performs, only to be interrupted by the Rock.

TooCool
April 6th, 2018, 12:38 PM
AoP vs Strong/Dunne: short before the interference, but damn pretty fast paced and VERY strong style-esque. Looks like Adam Cole will step in on the tag team title match. Oh and now a triple threat tag match between AoP, Undisputed, and Dunne/Roderick? Going to be a war! Cole may be forced to wrestle in both the tag match and the ladder match.

You ever notice how before a 4 or 5 or 6 man match at a ppv they'll do a raw/smackdown where all the guys end up in the ring for a staredown? It never really does much for me. Yet having Kain/Sullivan/Velveteen/EC3/Ricochet/Cole in the ring at the same time? Got me hyped!! (how good was "adam cole baby" vs. "vel-ve-teen" from the crowd) My guess is one of EC3/Ricochet/Velveteen wins the match. They've seen setting up Velveteen Dream running smack on new indie guys, and would start an easy feud should one of them come on top (i suppose this could happen even if neither win the title). Not sure where they really have to go with Dain, but Sullivan could be a fun north american champ for guys to chase after too.

Well then let's get to predictions:

Ciampa/Johnny Wrestling: I find it hard to believe that after a heel turn and waiting so long to get this match going they'd let Ciampa lose. Nevertheless you can't let Gargano leave. I'll say Ciampa wins with some version of cheating, and Regal allows one follow up match (steel cage and/or other other special match for it all at the following ppv)

Cien/Black: It's Black's time. This should be a long and awesomely stiff yet fast paced match. Cien looks like he's almost ready to hit the next level.

Triple threat tag match: My heart says Dunne/Strong. My mind says Undisputed Era. I'm going with undisputed finding a way to win. AoP looks set to move on soon. Dunne already has the european title. This would keep Undisputed's credibility going until the injury subsides. Where Strong goes, I'm not sure.

North American Title Ladder Match: who the #$*& (http://letsgokings.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=%24%2A%26) knows? Because he's been hot as hell, and the crowds increasingly like him, in a surprise I'm going Velveteen Dream. He deserves it. And I assume after the match he'll probably get destroyed by one of the other combatants to set up a follow up feud.

Baszler/Moon: They might be willing to let Baszler have it, but I'm going to say Moon keeps the title. Baszler can have follow up feuds with Dakota Kai or Kairi Sane in the interim before she gets the title again. Or Baszler wins and feuds with the girls the same way. But if Moon loses where does she go from there?

- Yep! Double Duty for Adam Cole. I would have to think that this has to be AoP's final match in NXT. They have been down there for far too long... then again, it's not a bad thing either because look at how badly the WWE botched The Revival and American Alpha. Sad thing is... we all saw that coming too. Strong/Dunne winning the Tag Titles could be fun, but they would be transitional champs at best since they're singles wrestlers. I think Undisputed retain just because.

- I agree with you in the Ciampa/Gargano match... how do you have Ciampa lose after he's been gone for so long? But at the same time... storyline wise it would make sense for Gargano to get his revenge after all the backstabbing Ciampa has done.

- Also agree with you that Aleister Black is winning the NXT Title. I think WWE was going to call up Almas earlier but they changed their mind. He did show up in the Rumble though so that was always a good sign for him.

- I have zero interest in Baszler/Moon. Would rather see Kairi Sane in the Title match. The Women's Division seems pretty thin right now too. Especially when we haven't seen the Iconic Duo in months and I highly doubt they'll return. They should definitely be in the Women's Battle Royal. I guess Moon dropping it makes sense, but is it too soon for her to get called up as well?

- North American Title Ladder Match... man! You can't go wrong with any of the winners here. Unfortunately I think Lars Sullivan isn't winning this because he's a big dude. Big dudes don't need to win ladder matches to look good. (This also applies to Killian Dain) As much as I agree with you that the Velveteen Dream deserves the title... I don't know. They've got the chance to put it on EC3 or Ricochet. Or they could give it to Adam Cole so he'll hold the NA Title and the Tag Titles.


too many matches on WM to concentrate on, so here are a few bold predictions, most of which have about 0.006% chance of happening:

- Big Cass or Sama Joe return, enter and win the andre the giant battle royal
- Curt Hawkins win the battle royal, and the crowd goes wild
- Strowman brings out The Big Show or Samoa Joe as his partner
- Strowman brings out Lars Sullivan for his tag match, by which they demolish the bar and win. Sullivan then goes back to NXT, Strowman claims he was only ordered to have a partner for one match at wm, and goes on to defend the titles on his own.
- Elias performs, only to be interrupted by the Rock.

Those are bold predictions indeed. I think out of the two battle royals, for sure an NXT star will win it. I will guess that it comes from the Women's side.

I'd love to see Curt Hawkins win the Battle Royal to break his streak but at the same time I don't think WWE has done enough to milk his losses. The WM crowd will pop, no doubt about that. But where do they go from here? The sad thing is that they try to make it seem like winning the match is a big deal when in reality it does nothing for them.

I'd love to see Strowman pick Lars Sullivan as his partner. Or hell, pick Killian Dane. Just total destruction. I still hope it's James Ellsworth though lol. Team up with the jobber you made famous!

So yeah... very pumped about Takeover. Also bummed I can't watch it live because I'll be at Staples for the Kings/Stars game. But hey, that's what the WWE Network is for. :) I just need to stay off Twitter at Staples and tune in as soon as I get home to avoid any spoilers on the computer. Then we get 7 freaking hours of Wrestlemania... lol

LetTigerIn
April 6th, 2018, 12:49 PM
Watch Takeover on your phone while at the Stapler.

Since Cass got mentioned, is there any reason why Brains and Cass should not team up? Other than how do you get the belts off of them.

TooCool
April 6th, 2018, 01:28 PM
Watch Takeover on your phone while at the Stapler.



:lol: No thanks!

ucsdguy1
April 6th, 2018, 01:45 PM
Watch Takeover on your phone while at the Stapler.

Since Cass got mentioned, is there any reason why Brains and Cass should not team up? Other than how do you get the belts off of them.
Not a bad thought either. I guess it depends if they're bringing Cass back as a heel or face. If heel, you can't put him with Strowman.

I won't be home until later saturday night either, but the joy of the wwe network lets you start late and catch up.

ucsdguy1
April 6th, 2018, 01:46 PM
One other thought I had, after all the mixed match challenge stuff....what if Nia Jax destroys Bliss, she's humbled..................and becomes Strowman's partner???

How funny would that be. She can basically sit on the side while he does all of the wrestling, and at the very end he can tag her in to make the final pin...

ucsdguy1
April 8th, 2018, 12:12 AM
Nxt spoiler alerts


Uh that ladder match was basically 20-30 minutes of “holy ****” moments

Well, did not see Strong going rogue with Undisputed coming. I guess it gives his character somewhere to go, but why drag out the whole thing with dunne? If he was going to join, why even bother with the tag team tournament? Thinking about it, I guess now strong goes after, and probably wins the European gold in a feud with dunne, giving more titles to undisputed.

Almas man. He’s good. So fast and sells like crazy. Vega definitely makes his character more personable if you will. Good for Black and he had some good spots, but Almas made that match. He has to be going up.

That gargano power bomb of ciampa onto the concrete.....ouch. Good stiff match. The emotion carried this one. Redemption for Johnny.

These matches (maybe outside baszler/moon) were given plenty of time and told crazy stories. Well done.

Dexter
April 8th, 2018, 12:14 AM
Holy cow that ladder match was incredible. Only complaint is they didn't really sell the breaking of the ladders because they recovered fairly fast. Ricochet is so damn good, even if he does over sell.

TooCool
April 8th, 2018, 01:24 PM
Uh that ladder match was basically 20-30 minutes of ?holy ****? moments

Well, did not see Strong going rogue with Undisputed coming. I guess it gives his character somewhere to go, but why drag out the whole thing with dunne? If he was going to join, why even bother with the tag team tournament? Thinking about it, I guess now strong goes after, and probably wins the European gold in a feud with dunne, giving more titles to undisputed.

Almas man. He?s good. So fast and sells like crazy. Vega definitely makes his character more personable if you will. Good for Black and he had some good spots, but Almas made that match. He has to be going up.

That gargano power bomb of ciampa onto the concrete.....ouch. Good stiff match. The emotion carried this one. Redemption for Johnny.

These matches (maybe outside baszler/moon) were given plenty of time and told crazy stories. Well done.


Holy cow that ladder match was incredible. Only complaint is they didn't really sell the breaking of the ladders because they recovered fairly fast. Ricochet is so damn good, even if he does over sell.

Damn, TakeOver again... didn't disappoint! I got home from Staples around 11:10 PM. Didn't start watching it until like 11:30 PM and I was like, "WTF? They gave TakeOver 3 hours instead of 2 1/2? Interesting..."

- Ladder match was a ton of fun. Everyone got in their spots and got to shine. I think Velveteen Dream took the biggest bumps. Ricochet showed off a lot of great moves and it reminded me why he was so good as Prince Puma on Lucha Underground. One thing about ladder matches though that unfortunately takes away the "magic" is that if you're climbing the ladder and NOT facing the hard camera side, you're not going to win the match. Look at Ricochet at the end, his back was facing the camera and Adam Cole tipped him over and won. But what a fun match to start the show.

- Women's Title Match was alright. I had zero interest in the match because I'm not a fan of Shayna but she made it work. Thankfully it didn't drag out too long and looking back on it, Ember Moon's run with the Women's Title was pretty uneventful.

- Roderick Strong's heel turn was absolutely unexpected! Didn't quite make sense if you think about it because he could have been Tag Champs with Pete Dunne after that Bitter End. It's like... at what point did he decide to join the Undisputed Era? Why work so hard during the match, only to turn? Regardless though, I think if they use the Freebird rule, he's a NXT Tag Team Champion either way, so I'm all for the heel turn. I love stables in wrestling.

- NXT Title Match was slow to start but super fun. Almas has really grown on me since his debut. One thing I just realized was that Percy Watson kept talking about how Zelina must be getting a "big bonus" with how many times she has interfered in the match. And it's something I never thought about from a storyline stand point. Is this why not every single wrestler wants to have a manager? Because they are using their "winnings" to pay them. Just something to think about. :) Black's win, I think most people saw coming. It was a little odd timing for Vega to just jump on Almas as Almas already shoved Black away. But it told a good story. Also a little weird to see Aleister Black smiling with the NXT Title.

- Ciampa/Gargano. Yes! They were in the main event. I was afraid they weren't. This match was so good, mainly because of the STORY. The emotional feud between these two made the match. The match officially ran 37 minutes but it really felt like they went an hour (in a good way). That's how fast time flew by. I laughed at the referee not wearing a referee shirt, and he had to wear black gloves to make it seem like he's not there to actually officiate, but just count to 3. Yet it makes no sense when he kept checking on either one of them because if it's an Unsanctioned match.. why the hell would you care if they're okay? =P

That powerbomb to the floor with no padding was sick. I always fear for the wrestlers safety when that happens so major props to them for doing such a thing just to put on a show for the fans. When Gargano dumped Ciampa on to the announce table and pretty much throwing him onto Mauro and Percy, I laughed when the crowd chanted "Mamma Mia!" knowing Mauro would say that if he could. But man, what a match. It's all about story telling and they absolutely nailed it. I almost expected Gargano and Ciampa to both stop fighting and hug it out. You know how it is when brothers fight... they make up. Here, it looked like Gargano couldn't attack him with the final blow but to have him sit down and then anticipate Ciampa hitting him with the knee brace, man that was intense.

Overall, I think it might have been the best TakeOver ever. I know I say that all the time but they always manage to top their own shows over and over. HHH is a freaking genius when you really think about it. I know we all love Vince and respect the hell out of him, but I look forward to a better WWE once HHH is in charge of everything.

ucsdguy1
April 8th, 2018, 08:05 PM
I totally thought the same thing about Black smiling!

ucsdguy1
April 8th, 2018, 09:06 PM
Quick wrestlemania off thoughts

Asuke - what the #*#^{>#+. (http://letsgokings.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=%2A%23%5E%7B%3E%23%2B.) They had a great chance to have an undertaker-like streak, or a very long one at that and make her super memorable. They basically made her undefeated streak irrelevant. All that hype, not a crazy amount of matches at best, so one match with flair (which to me could’ve been better) and she loses?? Where does she go now, she’s just another female on the roster.

Undertaker/Cena: more or less a waste of time for me, inclusive of the Elias segment. I suppose a memorable entrance for UT, but this entire segment time could’ve gone to extended other matches.

Jinder Mahal? Really? Crowd went nuts when rusev was in there at the end. Perfect opportunity lost, again.

Nia/Bliss: I was so into this. Nia destroying mickie James before the match was awesome and smart (crazy slam on James). Bliss got a decent amount of offense in and took some brutal bumps. Well done on both ends. They got it right here.

Rousey: pleasantly surprised. She moved quick, took some bumps, and had some pretty good maneuvers. Timing needs a bit of work in spots but for her first match I thought she did pretty well.

Really thought Nakamura was going to win. So much for hype. Technical match but I don’t know, felt like there was much left to be desired. Maybe I was already drained at this point by the length of the ppv. Heel turn by Nakamura sets up rematch. But, heel turn already???!!! Nope.

Bryan/McMahon: okay no heel turn. Bryan looked pretty good for the first time back. Owens and zayn surely are going to raw now.

Braun picking a fan: good call. But they could’ve had him roaming the stadium throughout the pay per view finding someone. (oh that whole time thing). Nicholas looked about to crap himself. Cory graves: “if Nicholas wanted to be a good partner he could’ve at least tripped Seamus.” I chuckled. Nicholas should’ve made the pin. I hope that kid has a lawyer and/or agent because you know there are t shirts coming. Or Braun can just pick a partner in every event going forward. Seriously this was fun but totally unnecessary in a 9 hour ppv. But it’s wrestlemania.

Strowman couldn’t kick out of one F-5. Roman withstood five. Boring and “this is awful” chants during match. Pretty sure I may have heard boos for a beach ball getting taken away. But wow I think almost everyone thought Roman winning was a forgone conclusion. Who the **** gets to beat Lesnar than? And great we get to go more months with a champion who shows up every few weeks? What potential program does Roman have forward now?

Holy god what a long ppv. And i actually watched the pre-show too. #neveragain (http://letsgokings.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=neveragain)

I don’t know there was just too much I either didn’t get or don’t see going much of anywhere.

TooCool
April 8th, 2018, 09:49 PM
Thanks for your Mania thoughts! I'll post mine while it's fresh in my head but I'll try to keep it short and sweet for each match.

Man, what a long day overall. Pretty much what I expected from Wrestlemania and I thought it was a mixed bag overall. I too, watched the Pre-Show :lol:

Men's Battle Royal: Meh. No surprise NXT stars and no one did much of anything. Bray Wyatt helping Matt Hardy win is good for their storyline moving forward but other than that, the trophy is pointless. It would be hilarious if Matt takes that trophy around and just talks to it though.

Cruiserweight Title Match: Actually a really good match between the two. I was hoping Mustafa Ali would win because Cedric Alexander seems to get opportunities left and right. But this too is his first Cruiserweight Title win I think. But he had so many chances against Neville and Enzo while Ali didn't. But I enjoyed the match.

Women's Battle Royal: What a mess of a match. The NXT girls got to shine a little but they provided nothing to the match overall. I didn't even know Kairi Sane got eliminated either. The Bayley/Sasha Banks story was the focal point of it but then Naomi randomly won because she was never eliminated? Stupid match overall.

IC Title Match: This match was really fun. Loved all the near falls left and right. I didn't care who won this match, it was good. Now all the Shield members are Grand Slam champs.

Smackdown Women's Title Match: Like you, very surprised Asuka lost. This match was great too and I'm happy they got over 15+ minutes. As soon as Charlotte won I was thinking, now's the time to cash in the contract Carmella. But nope, nothing.

US Title Match: Like you said, missed opportunity. Everyone knows how popular Rusev day is but they just don't give a ****. That's just how it works in WWE. If it wasn't originally Vince's plan, he's not going to care how much the crowd likes someone. He's going to remain buried. Jinder winning is alright with me. Better than Roode or Orton to be honest.

Rousey/Angle vs HHH/Steph: Holy crap this match was a lot of fun. I thought Steph was easily going to be the weak link in this match but she really looked like she worked on things in the ring. If anyone felt like a weak link to me, it was Kurt Angle. But overall, the crowd was nuts for it so that made it fun. I think this match stole the show.

Smackdown Tag Title Match: No nonsense match here. Good win for the Bludgeon Brothers. Who can stop them? Authors of Pain?

Cena vs Undertaker: Definitely a waste of time here. I'm sad that Taker had to lose to Brock and Roman because his streak was what made WM special. This match gave Taker another win but overall it was pointless. Plus Cena is leaving again for a few months to film more movies so whatever.

Bryan/Shane vs Owens/Zayn: I actually really dug this match. Probably because I'm a huge fan of Daniel Bryan, Sami Zayn, and Kevin Owens. The crowd was hot for this match too and I couldn't be any happier for Daniel. Welcome back!

RAW Women's Title Match: Finally Nia wins the title. I still think it should have been a 2 minute match to be honest. But at least they told a story that Alexa can fight back. If Nia lost it would have been silly.

WWE Title Match: This match unfortunately didn't hit the mark for me. They needed to work a faster pace. By the time they started to pick it up, it was already over. Just like the Roderick Strong heel turn, I didn't see it coming from Shinsuke Nakamura. I guess I'm okay with it if it means a rematch between the two at Backlash. Then let Shinsuke win the WWE Title as a heel.

RAW Tag Title Match: I hated this to be honest. While the crowd got a kick out of Nicholas getting picked and winning the RAW Tag Titles. In my eyes, they just made a mockery of the titles. Just think about it... you got the Revival and Goodbrothers jobbing on the Pre-Show and yet Braun and a kid are champs? Meh.

Universal Title Match: This match sucked too. I'm just not a fan of watching 5+ superman punches, 10 suplexs, 5 spears, and 6 F-5s. It's dumb. Very very dumb. The whole, "please feel bad for Roman" card they keep playing is old. Glad the crowd chanted "This is awful" and "boring or bulls***" to it. But they needed to walk out to make a statement and they didn't.

So yeah, there were good stuff and bad stuff. It gets like a 7 out of 10 from me.

ucsdguy1
April 9th, 2018, 09:44 AM
Ah yes, Stephanie got in a few good defensive moves to combat Rhonda. But her looking for the tag when HHH wasn't there was priceless.

I really hope they don't just have Asuke return and try and go after Nia's title. Put that off and let Nia keep for awhile. Oh and if they were going to go through having Asuke actually lose (still not over this decision), with Flair crying after the match, I agree this would've been a perfect time for Carmella to cash in. I suppose they were trying to savor the moment of Asuke finally losing a match, but yeah, I think my thoughts on that are pretty clear.

Both battle royals, outside of the small Bayley/Banks segment, were wastes of time.

I didn't even realize Balor had brought out LGBTQ fans (hence the rainbow logo), but that's pretty cool.

Per the dirt rags, Nicholas is the son of one of the wwe referees.

Who is Lesnar's next opponent? (Please not bobby lashley) My guess is we don't find out for a few weeks, I mean they have time between now and his next appearance right? Dirt sheets also saying there was some kind of confrontation between Lesnar and Vince McMahon backstage after the match, but may just be a whole lot of nothing.

And adding to my thoughts - what to do with Roman...he should come out, say he gave his all and yet he still gets booed. He stood up for the locker room, and still got booed. Every ounce of heart he has, he gets booed. Say you're done working for the fans or anyone else. It's all about "me" now, and go heel. Then plow through some people.

TooCool
April 9th, 2018, 11:52 AM
Ah yes, Stephanie got in a few good defensive moves to combat Rhonda. But her looking for the tag when HHH wasn't there was priceless.

I really hope they don't just have Asuke return and try and go after Nia's title. Put that off and let Nia keep for awhile. Oh and if they were going to go through having Asuke actually lose (still not over this decision), with Flair crying after the match, I agree this would've been a perfect time for Carmella to cash in. I suppose they were trying to savor the moment of Asuke finally losing a match, but yeah, I think my thoughts on that are pretty clear.

Both battle royals, outside of the small Bayley/Banks segment, were wastes of time.

I didn't even realize Balor had brought out LGBTQ fans (hence the rainbow logo), but that's pretty cool.

Per the dirt rags, Nicholas is the son of one of the wwe referees.

Who is Lesnar's next opponent? (Please not bobby lashley) My guess is we don't find out for a few weeks, I mean they have time between now and his next appearance right? Dirt sheets also saying there was some kind of confrontation between Lesnar and Vince McMahon backstage after the match, but may just be a whole lot of nothing.

And adding to my thoughts - what to do with Roman...he should come out, say he gave his all and yet he still gets booed. He stood up for the locker room, and still got booed. Every ounce of heart he has, he gets booed. Say you're done working for the fans or anyone else. It's all about "me" now, and go heel. Then plow through some people.

I'm pretty sure Asuka is part of the Smackdown brand now. Or at least that's how it used to work... if they decide what title they're going for, they're part of that show. But who knows, maybe they'll keep her on RAW until the next Superstar Shakeup (whenever that may be).

I think they said something about New Orleans having a big LGBT community which is why Finn had that shirt. Plus it's WWE... easy opportunity to make $$$ right?

Ah the kid is the refs son? That's cool. Obviously we all know it's a plant (it always is), just didn't know who the kid belonged to. At first I assumed it was a Make-A-Wish charity kid. :lol: Oh yeah, speaking of plant... one thing that really bothered me (or at least made me roll my eyes) is during the Gargano/Ciampa match. When Ciampa scared an injured Gargano fan at ringside and stole his crutches. That was so forced it was stupid. Why not just have crutches under the ring and say Ciampa put it there because he didn't need it anymore? At least that would fit the story and feel more realistic instead of conveniently stealing it from a "fan".

At this rate... who is going to take the Universal Title off of Brock Lesnar? Do you move Daniel Bryan to RAW? He's the one true face where fans WILL cheer his victory. But other than that... the only guy who Vince will take a chance on is the person you mentioned... Bobby Lashley. lol

As for Roman, he's a lost cause. I remember they refused to turn Cena heel because he does all these Make A Wish stuff. Does Roman even have many requests from kids? I don't see what's preventing him from becoming a full heel. Knowing Vince and WWE... it's going to be the same old **** and Roman will once again Main Event Wrestlemania even if he doesn't win the Royal Rumble.

Dexter
April 9th, 2018, 12:09 PM
I read a random tweet that they are booking Charlotte strong so she'll fight Ronda next year at Wrestlemania as the closer. Um, it would still have been awesome if it was Asuka against Ronda.

ucsdguy1
April 9th, 2018, 12:27 PM
Hmm


According to Ryan Satin of Pro Wrestling Sheet, the two had a "heated incident" that ended with Lesnar throwing the WWE Universal Championship belt at McMahon. Lesnar reportedly might have gone "off script" at the end of his high-profile match.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2769447-report-brock-lesnar-vince-mcmahon-had-heated-altercation-after-wrestlemania

And the best rumor I've read today so far is saying Reigns gets a rematch tonight and wins the title. No way no how, but imagine what might set off a post-wrestlemania raw crowd more?

TooCool
April 9th, 2018, 01:54 PM
I read a random tweet that they are booking Charlotte strong so she'll fight Ronda next year at Wrestlemania as the closer. Um, it would still have been awesome if it was Asuka against Ronda.

Interesting. They do value Charlotte like crazy since they had her undefeated at PPVs for a long while a year or two ago. And if you have someone like her beat Asuka, I guess it makes sense that they would rather have Charlotte/Rousey instead of Asuka/Rousey. Especially when you look at it from a promo standpoint...


Hmm

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2769447-report-brock-lesnar-vince-mcmahon-had-heated-altercation-after-wrestlemania

And the best rumor I've read today so far is saying Reigns gets a rematch tonight and wins the title. No way no how, but imagine what might set off a post-wrestlemania raw crowd more?

:lol: Wouldn't surprise me at all. Vince knows the crowd will hi-jack the RAW after Mania. Might as well **** all over the crowd because he does like to troll people.

Dexter
April 9th, 2018, 07:41 PM
https://i.redd.it/2i8mo29ojyq01.jpg
Never forget
4/8/18 - 4/9/18

ucsdguy1
April 9th, 2018, 09:20 PM
So many thoughts..

Eh already wwe seems to be going overboard in overhyping the after-wrestlemania raw crowd. His crowd was good but not nearly on the level of last year.

And man they are really pushing this Saudi Arabia event. You know, with backlash only a week or so later..

good debut for ember moon. Showcased well and credit bliss and James for allowing a squash. Feud with bliss or James wouldn’t be a bad intro for her.

Reigns vs lesnar in a steel cage in Saudi Arabia? I guess they couldn’t deal with a US crowd’s reaction when he finally beats him. And joe facing him at backlash? Soooo disjointed.

You know, no way jose is just the right amount of silly humor that will surely get over with wwe crowds. And a 30 second win over a jobber? Brilliant! Mid card 4 life. Now if he can get to get strowman to dance..

Relinquishing the tag titles - okay still not down that it was so easy to beat a tag team, but that works. There’s hope for the revival yet. Not so much for gallows and Anderson.

The miz: “You made my little princess cry.” I love it.

Crowd interaction with Elias I think pretty much had him 2 seconds from laughing and/or crying. And Lashley ruined it. I was more excited for ember and jose.

Angle with the line of the night - “I hear Tna is hiring.”

The second I saw Hawkins and Rhyno, did anyone not think here come AoP...it’s actually pretty funny that Angle had just told Zayn and Owens his tag team division was already full. I suppose that’s after hiring AoP. They dissed ellering already? What?

ucsdguy1
April 10th, 2018, 09:25 AM
dirt sheets saying this morning Lesnar's new deal may only be for two or three more appearances. No idea if this is true, but if so Reigns is definitely winning the title in Saudi Arabia (by which I'm sure Vince feels will be a more receptive crowd)

LetTigerIn
April 10th, 2018, 09:29 AM
"We are scumbags."

TooCool
April 10th, 2018, 09:47 AM
So many thoughts..

Eh already wwe seems to be going overboard in overhyping the after-wrestlemania raw crowd. His crowd was good but not nearly on the level of last year.

And man they are really pushing this Saudi Arabia event. You know, with backlash only a week or so later..

good debut for ember moon. Showcased well and credit bliss and James for allowing a squash. Feud with bliss or James wouldn’t be a bad intro for her.

Reigns vs lesnar in a steel cage in Saudi Arabia? I guess they couldn’t deal with a US crowd’s reaction when he finally beats him. And joe facing him at backlash? Soooo disjointed.

You know, no way jose is just the right amount of silly humor that will surely get over with wwe crowds. And a 30 second win over a jobber? Brilliant! Mid card 4 life. Now if he can get to get strowman to dance..

Relinquishing the tag titles - okay still not down that it was so easy to beat a tag team, but that works. There’s hope for the revival yet. Not so much for gallows and Anderson.

The miz: “You made my little princess cry.” I love it.

Crowd interaction with Elias I think pretty much had him 2 seconds from laughing and/or crying. And Lashley ruined it. I was more excited for ember and jose.

Angle with the line of the night - “I hear Tna is hiring.”

The second I saw Hawkins and Rhyno, did anyone not think here come AoP...it’s actually pretty funny that Angle had just told Zayn and Owens his tag team division was already full. I suppose that’s after hiring AoP. They dissed ellering already? What?

I actually watched RAW last night (2nd and 3rd hour only) so I can respond to your comments with my thoughts. =D

I don't think they were hyping the RAW after Mania crowd. They were constantly trying to remind their casual fan base that the crowd will boo faces (like Reigns) and cheer bad guys. They're always reminding the audience watching on TV that the live crowd doesn't reflect how a normal audience should react.

Yeah, the Greatest Royal Rumble in Saudi Arabia is not just going to be a glorified house show. Title changes are going to happen because they're going to make "history". So you're right about Roman winning the Universal Title there. I think usually the fans overseas love Roman. (Minus Europe) And whether or not Reigns wins the Universal Title, sadly Samoa Joe still gets to look bad and lose to Roman Reigns at Backlash.

Ember Moon on RAW? Hmm okay. I guess she could have matches against Alexa Bliss and Absolution. Down the line when Bayley/Sasha are done with their feud, their matches against Moon could be fun. Plus I think they're moving Becky over to RAW so that works too.

No Way Jose, glad to see him on RAW. He wasn't used much in NXT the last 6 months right? When he did have a match, he would lose them too (like Tye Dillinger). But some stars thrive on the Main roster. Just look at Elias. He was so boring in NXT but now he's one of the more popular guys on the show because of his promo skills. So at least he'll have a good few months before WWE forgets about him.

Authors of Pain finally being on RAW is nice too. I think they dumped Paul Ellering because he's too old to travel on a weekly basis. When NXT would film 3-4 shows in one night, that was so much easier for Ellering since it's just in Florida or Georgia. Then he could occasionally travel to TakeOvers. But on RAW? Maybe it's too much. What I would love to see is to have him go back to NXT and build up another tag team to get revenge on AoP. That's an automatic feud you can set up just like that. Ultimately though, I don't have much hope for AoP. Not after what they've done to American Alpha and The Revival.

Nice to see Bobby Lashley back. I didn't watch him in TNA at all and all I remember when he was with the WWE was that he had piss poor mic skills. People mainly considered him as a "Black Lesnar". :lol: Hopefully he's a all around superstar now like EC3.

As for Smackdown tonight, I fully expect them to get Andrade Cien Almas w/Zelina Vega, Iconic Duo, and Sanity.

----------------------------------------

What are your predictions for the Superstar shakeup?

I can see these moves happening...

To RAW: Becky Lynch, Carmella, Baron Corbin, Randy Orton, Jinder Mahal, and Mojo Rawley.
To Smackdown: Sasha Banks, Dana Brooke, Gallows and Anderson, The Miz, and Seth Rollins.

I have a feeling they're going to swap the midcard champs again. They also kept teasing that tag teams can be broken up now as well so we'll see. They're also having a Bayley/Banks match next week right before the shakeup... so that makes me think one of them is getting moved. They still need a PPV match but they're in no rush for it probably. The best move would be The Miz going back to Smackdown now that Daniel Bryan can wrestle.

ucsdguy1
April 10th, 2018, 10:16 AM
Stephanie opened up Raw by mentioning how crazy the post-Wrestlemania crowds are in relation to the reaction she got, and I think the announcers brought it up 4 or 5 times to start the show (probably why I got immediately annoyed)

I don't like the idea of splitting up Bayley and Sasha yet. Agree they need a ppv match. And they need something big to happen to set it up. I like the small piece by piece way they've been building it up. Now let's get an all out brawl again or something bigger to really push for their actual match.

I think Bobby Roode may move to Raw. There isn't much for him now. Same with Orton. Although not sure they want to move both guys who just came out of the same feud. Rusev to Raw? That or they'll put him into a feud with Mahal straight away that he'll probably lose. I forgot Mojo Rawley was even a thing (and I watched the pre-wm battle royal). Carmella I suppose, but would she have to cash in her money in the bank first, or is it a transferrable property. Becky Lynch needs a reboot and a move to Raw will do her good.

The Miz for sure going to Smackdown. The breakup of tag teams - not really sure what that means, but who's a tag team right now that could/needs to be broken up? I could see the Usos moving to Raw. They've almost done as much as possible with the new day. Breezango maybe? Assuming the no show from Asuke last night means she'll be moving to Smackdown too. I salivate Sanity moving to smackdown, but mostly because I want to see Nikki Cross run wild.

ucsdguy1
April 11th, 2018, 08:03 AM
TooCool's very own WWE Smackdown Women's champ!

https://cdn3.whatculture.com/images/2018/04/24505b6429b722be-600x400.jpg


They're teasing tag teams being broken up in the shakeup. New Day loses to Usos cleanly. Are we about to see the breakup of the booty-o's?

Nakamura's backstage interview last night was pretty darn good

ucsdguy1
April 11th, 2018, 08:03 AM
And that being said. I'm done.

Paige about to announce Bryan's opponent. Crowd chants Rusev Day.
Triple threat match - crowd chants Rusev Day.
And we get Orton/Mahal.

WWE announces Rusev will face Undertaker in a casket match in Saudi Arabia. What the sam hell @#$&*(^@#$(&^@#. Gee let me wager on this one.

I'm so done.

TooCool
April 11th, 2018, 11:55 AM
Congrats to Carmella! Glad WWE didn't make her become the 1st Women to win it and also fail to cash in. We all know she won't be a champion for months, so hopefully she gets to enjoy it for a few weeks. Charlotte will always get her title opportunities while Carmella won't.

The Iconic Duo finally debuts. I think they took away the word "duo" and are just calling them Iconic (because WWE logic). Maybe it's just me but Billie Kay looks like she dropped 15-20 pounds when she looked fine on NXT. Maybe the same for Peyton Royce too but like 5-10 pounds? Then again, we haven't seen them in NXT for like 3-4 months so maybe that's why I think they look a tad different. Lucky ass Tye Dillinger as he is dating Peyton Royce.

No Andrade Cien Almas or Sanity though, what gives?

Great to see Paige as the Smackdown GM. It was definitely a surprise since she announced that she's officially retiring on RAW just the night before. So now Mandy Rose and Sonya Deville will go back to their NXT music?

As you probably heard, they made the announce team remind the TV audience that the crowd will cheer bad guys and boo good guys. It's pathetic that Vince is making them do that. What are they so afraid of? People cheer whoever they want to cheer... that's how it should work.

I also loved the Shinsuke Nakamura heel promo. He spoke English just perfectly when they're not making him pause like crazy. Then his troll line of "Sorry, no speak English" was great. I'm also digging the constant low blows he's giving AJ Styles. True heel move and it's definitely something that will help him win the WWE Title because AJ Styles as a face won't low blow him back.

And sucks to see about Rusev Day. I guess we should know better. Rusev will always be buried until Vince wants him to succeed. =[

CIrvine
April 11th, 2018, 04:27 PM
It would be really funny if Nakamura does his promos in Japanese from now on.

ucsdguy1
April 12th, 2018, 08:40 AM
It would be really funny if Nakamura does his promos in Japanese from now on.
Then Taka Michinoku comes out to translate into English?

"Indeed"

ucsdguy1
April 12th, 2018, 09:17 AM
Rusev tweet yesterday:

"Bury me softly, Brother"

ucsdguy1
April 13th, 2018, 08:57 AM
Houston we've got a problem.

Rusev makes comments that Undertaker's wife doesn't take kindly to. Rusev has been replaced by Y2J in the casket match. Rusev has removed all references to WWE from his twitter profile.

See: https://www.cagesideseats.com/wwe/2018/4/12/17232372/rusev-removes-wwe-references-from-profile-reacts-to-undertaker-match-removal


Gotta be a work

TooCool
April 13th, 2018, 09:11 AM
Houston we've got a problem.

Rusev makes comments that Undertaker's wife doesn't take kindly to. Rusev has been replaced by Y2J in the casket match. Rusev has removed all references to WWE from his twitter profile.

See: https://www.cagesideseats.com/wwe/2018/4/12/17232372/rusev-removes-wwe-references-from-profile-reacts-to-undertaker-match-removal


Gotta be a work

How does "bury me softly" have anything to do with Michelle McCool? Weird.

ucsdguy1
April 13th, 2018, 09:20 AM
How does "bury me softly" have anything to do with Michelle McCool? Weird.

trying to find an exact article, but it was something about a TMZ interview Lana did that McCool thought referenced they would "bury his old a$$", by which she did not like the term "old". Who knows.

Screw that. It's Rusev Day

TooCool
April 13th, 2018, 04:23 PM
If you guys have a few minutes to spare... watch this. Love Mauro.

https://twitter.com/WWE/status/984144841427664896

LetTigerIn
April 13th, 2018, 05:35 PM
Mauro is awesome, and he's a good fit with NXT, too.

TooCool
April 14th, 2018, 06:45 PM
Someone in WWE actually wasted time to do this for ****s and giggles.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yqq1ShFPdCA

ucsdguy1
April 17th, 2018, 08:27 AM
So, the transfer of funds started. If anything it brought a lot of midcarders who may get fresh starts and actual pushes [::cough breezango cough::].

Was the start with Jinder Mahal as the first announcement the most underwhelming fan reaction seen in a long, long time? Nice to see Jeff Hardy win the US title (they had to make some kind of splash). If I didn't think for a minute Jinder was going to win it back in Saudi Arabia. That or they get it and Jinder begins his mesmerizing feud with no way jose.

Riott Squad showing up to ruin Bayley/Sasha was lame, but I get it. Just enough to wet the appetite for a ppv match (before the inevitable sasha/bayley vs riott squad tag matches multiple times over the next five weeks). Sasha will say Bayley was about to tap, Bayley will say no way hug life.
I assume Absolution goes Smackdown, unless they want to form one giant stable of a lot of women nobody yet cares about.

I suppose Drew Mc with Ziggler could be fun, but I see them toiling in midcard hell.

Miz on smackdown without his guys could be fun if he has to find a new Miztourage. Looks like that feud with Bryan will pick up.

Interesting to see Corbin moving to Raw with just a promo, not even a live appearance. Also, wwe announced after Raw that Chad Gable is moving to Raw, without Benjamin.

I think Sami Zayn whipping out his reading glasses from his hoodie to read Stephanie's e-mail was my highlight of the night.

No Rusev on Raw, but Rusev vs. Undertaker is now back on??? What a work
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2770896-rusev-vs-undertaker-at-wwe-greatest-royal-rumble-back-on-after-lana-changes-mind

LetTigerIn
April 17th, 2018, 10:05 AM
You missed the most important addition to RAW: Bullet Club!

ucsdguy1
April 17th, 2018, 10:21 AM
You missed the most important addition to RAW: Bullet Club!
that was pretty funny

TooCool
April 17th, 2018, 12:19 PM
Here's the full list of those officially moved to RAW

1) Jinder Mahal
2) Ruby Riott
3) Sarah Logan
4) Liv Morgan
5) Kevin Owens
6) Sami Zayn
7) Zack Ryder
8) Fandango
9) Tyler Breeze
10) Natalya
11) Dolph Ziggler
12) Drew McIntyre
13) Baron Corbin
14) Konnor
15) Viktor
16 Bobby Roode
17) Mojo Rawley
18) Mike Kanellis
19) Chad Gable

Zack Ryder, Baron Corbin, Ascension, Mojo Rawley, Mike Kanellis, and Chad Gable moving over and not even showing up on TV is not a good sign moving forward for them. I guess at least Corbin got a video package?

If Curt Hawkins is still on RAW, hopefully they reunite Ryder and Hawkins since they were part of Edge's stable back then. And Chad Gable is going to be a singles wrestler... would be nice to see him get a shot at the midcard title but I doubt it. Maybe when Jason Jordan is healthy, just reunite American Alpha with Kurt as the manager/mentor.


So, the transfer of funds started. If anything it brought a lot of midcarders who may get fresh starts and actual pushes [::cough breezango cough::].

Haha.. if only. They do need more Fashion Files though. They ended up cutting it from Smackdown probably due to time constraints but on RAW, you got 3+ hours. It could work.


Was the start with Jinder Mahal as the first announcement the most underwhelming fan reaction seen in a long, long time? Nice to see Jeff Hardy win the US title (they had to make some kind of splash). If I didn't think for a minute Jinder was going to win it back in Saudi Arabia. That or they get it and Jinder begins his mesmerizing feud with no way jose.

No Way Jose is a good guy to beat Jinder with in their first match... then you can put Jinder over since No Way Jose isn't going to do anything. Hardy winning the title was no surprise. Now we have yet another Grand Slam champion. If they don't move Seth Rollins to Smackdown, then Jeff Hardy is going.


Riott Squad showing up to ruin Bayley/Sasha was lame, but I get it. Just enough to wet the appetite for a ppv match (before the inevitable sasha/bayley vs riott squad tag matches multiple times over the next five weeks). Sasha will say Bayley was about to tap, Bayley will say no way hug life.
I assume Absolution goes Smackdown, unless they want to form one giant stable of a lot of women nobody yet cares about.

I am very surprised Becky didn't get moved. Absolution moving to Smackdown makes sense since Paige is the GM (and they're essentially making "trades"). And of course, either Sasha or Bayley is going to Smackdown. I know their match got interrupted but like you said, it's to tease for a future PPV match. I'm assuming they'll say that Asuka is on Smackdown as well tonight.


I suppose Drew Mc with Ziggler could be fun, but I see them toiling in midcard hell.

This is beneath McIntyre's level but at the same time I'm intrigued. Happy for Ziggler because this is something fresh for him. Almost reminds me of a HBK/Diesel dynamic. Plus that Zig Zag + Claymore double team finisher was sick looking. But what's going to happen here? Tag Team Champion reign for a bit? Or will it be the usual bit where McIntyre eventually turns on Ziggler? Plus, knowing Vince... he's going to totally reunite 3MB now that they're all on RAW.


Miz on smackdown without his guys could be fun if he has to find a new Miztourage. Looks like that feud with Bryan will pick up.

I absolutely loved that they announced Miz is going to Smackdown. Something about Daniel Bryan making that request to Paige and Shane. That's just instant fuel to their feud. Love it. If they build this feud properly, dare I say it might be as exciting as Gargano/Ciampa.


I think Sami Zayn whipping out his reading glasses from his hoodie to read Stephanie's e-mail was my highlight of the night.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJq9uqaR0aM

Watch this again at the 3:47 mark. I LOVE Sami's reaction. He's like "Yikes... you're dead Miz."

Here are my guesses for those going to Smackdown tonight besides Miz which was already confirmed.

- Braun Strowman
- Big Cass
- Finn Balor
- Gallows and Anderson
- The Revival
- Asuka
- Mandy Rose or Sonya Deville (I'm thinking one, but it could be two)
- Bayley or Sasha Banks
- Seth Rollins or Jeff Hardy
- R-Truth or Goldust (because why not)

Crapgame13
April 18th, 2018, 05:44 AM
went to Mania. that NXT card was a dream.

With the exception of Cass, who I fear may kick Bryan in the head, I'm loving this new Smackdown roster

ucsdguy1
April 18th, 2018, 08:20 AM
Got Jeff Hardy right.

so is Bryan/Cass a holdover feud until the Miz gets going? or does Cass become part of the new Miztourage. ps I liked Miz' promo last night when she had to cut him off for his language...

That R-Truth segment.....yeesh. "Well then, see you guys tomorrow!"

Who thought the bludgeon brothers were going to grab Naomi and power slam her? Well I guess if it were the dudleys she already would have gone through a table. But you feel that's coming..

Sanity and Vega/Almas coming to smackdown. But geezus - neither of them could show up live? Sanity couldn't even get a promo??? (and unless I'm mistaken Nikki Cross was not in the picture they showed). Way to get a proper introduction to the wwe universe not as familiar with nxt!

LetTigerIn
April 18th, 2018, 08:53 AM
I hope they do a substantial segment for Bruno Sammartino next week.

CIrvine
April 18th, 2018, 11:39 AM
La sombra!

TooCool
April 19th, 2018, 09:47 AM
I'm really surprised and happy to see that they didn't screw Smackdown over again.

They got to keep AJ Styles, Daniel Bryan, Shinsuke Nakamura, Rusev, and I guess Orton too. Then on top of that, they added Samoa Joe and Jeff Hardy? Nice. I guess that's a trade off for Owens and Zayn.

They lose comic reliefs in Breezango and Ascension and gain The Goodbrothers and The Bar? Wow.

Yeah, I have a feeling Big Cass is The Miz's bodyguard, probably similar to Ziggler and McIntyre.

I'm sad that Nikki Cross isn't included but I think the Women's Division is too thin right now. Look at who you have there besides Shayna Baszler. You have Kairi Sane, Candice LeRae, Lacey Evans, Dakota Kai, Bianca Belair, Aliyah, Taynara Conti and Vanessa Borne. Other than Kairi and Candice, I don't care for any of the other women yet because I don't think their characters are established enough. I guess you can say Bianca Belair has her hair as a weapon gimmick but that's it. Hopefully Nikki gets added to Sanity in the future on Smackdown Live unless they change her character. (Then again, they never reunited Carmella with Enzo and Cass.)

I'm not sure how Smackdown is going to fit everyone in... The best thing to hope for is that they book their wrestlers just like they do in NXT. They don't have to show up every week, but put them on TV every other week so fans remember them. One huge problem WWE has always have was to keep guys away from TV just because they have nothing for them. Look at how Mike Bennett, Mojo Rawley, Zack Ryder, and Tye Dillinger never show up. When they do, they lose. Just like how Sin Cara randomly got TV time only to lose to Samoa Joe easily. That's not how you build stars.

ucsdguy1
April 19th, 2018, 02:37 PM
I'm sad that Nikki Cross isn't included but I think the Women's Division is too thin right now. Look at who you have there besides Shayna Baszler. You have Kairi Sane, Candice LeRae, Lacey Evans, Dakota Kai, Bianca Belair, Aliyah, Taynara Conti and Vanessa Borne. Other than Kairi and Candice, I don't care for any of the other women yet because I don't think their characters are established enough. I guess you can say Bianca Belair has her hair as a weapon gimmick but that's it. Hopefully Nikki gets added to Sanity in the future on Smackdown Live unless they change her character. (Then again, they never reunited Carmella with Enzo and Cass.)


Except Nikki Cross hasn't really done anything in NXT for a long while.

Oh and is that Gargano/Black I see on the lineup for next week? Yeah....I don't see that one ending cleanly..

I also cannot wait for Dunne to get back in two weeks.....bruiser time is on

ucsdguy1
April 20th, 2018, 08:58 AM
this guy should be strowman's partner

http://www.ringsidenews.com/2018/04/20/uber-driver-freaks-wwe-superstars-get-car/

TooCool
April 23rd, 2018, 04:12 PM
this guy should be strowman's partner

http://www.ringsidenews.com/2018/04/20/uber-driver-freaks-wwe-superstars-get-car/

I didn't understand anything he said... lol

ucsdguy1
April 24th, 2018, 09:07 AM
Quick Raw thoughts:

Remember that time Angle fired Strowman who proceeded to tip over a truck? I suppose Braun is happy enough just being able to whipp out punishment nowadays. Oh, and Stephanie doesn't really care that Owens nearly beheaded her own father right? I guess putting one over on Angle is more important. And boy did Owens and Zayn get squashed. I don't know if we really need another Owens and Zayn vs. Management angle (no pun intended), I would've liked to see more of Owens v Zayn one on one, but what can you do.

It would have been kind of cool if Strowman had Lashley show up as his partner at Wrestlemania. That could've made for a fun tag team championship. But it's Hardy/Wyatt's to lose.

Roode loses his first raw match to Elias. I think Elias may be the much more over one here.

McIntyre was fantastic on the mic. He and Ziggler can do many good things, if not bogged down in meaningless midcard feuds.

I fully expect Reigns to beat Lesnar friday.

Nothing to further Bayley/Sasha at all. But Rousey's turn on James into the arm bar was so fast and hard. Really well done!

ucsdguy1
April 24th, 2018, 03:06 PM
oh and my god


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=54&v=mBsUnt32v88

TooCool
April 25th, 2018, 08:58 AM
Nakamura's new music noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

I mean, it's still cool but I loved his other music so much more. Makes sense though that they don't want fans to sing along to it since he's a heel. Maybe in the future when he's a face he goes back to it?

Karl Anderson saving AJ Styles to eat the Kinshasa reminded me of Gargano taking the ladder hit to save Ciampa.

That's all I got. I had to work late so I only caught the main event. =x

ucsdguy1
April 25th, 2018, 10:51 AM
haha my first post today was going to be "Nakamura's new music is AWFUL". Bring back the whoa ohs.

Asuke has been reduced to just another mid carder.

They once again screw up by playing Rusev as a full heel and obviously have no clue what to do with him at this point other than put him in high profile matches without ever winning anything.

Nothing else really moved me all that much.

ucsdguy1
April 26th, 2018, 09:33 AM
Real quick: Undisputed is a great heel faction right now.

"I'm going to beat him by myself, because frankly I don't need any help" - cue interference.

Looks like Nikki Cross is really a holdover to carry the women's division in NXT. Perhaps they let Baszler run through Dakota Kai and Kairi Sane before Cross gets the chance. But I have this weird feeling it'll be Baszler for a long time before Candace LeRae dethrones her?

I figured Ciampa would interfere, albeit probably after the match started. Here we go again. Nice passing of the torch/swan song from Sanity.

Dexter
April 26th, 2018, 10:04 PM
Who wins Greatest Rumble, Jinder or Khali???

TooCool
April 27th, 2018, 09:11 AM
Who wins Greatest Rumble, Jinder or Khali???

Roman Reigns.

ucsdguy1
April 27th, 2018, 09:16 AM
weird there are a lot of guys in the first few rows with their backs to the ring. unless i'm crazy

ucsdguy1
April 27th, 2018, 09:30 AM
There are a crap ton of Cena shirts in Saudi Arabia. Good for him. He looks like he lost 15 pounds since the break up

Always fear the Hornswaggle

ucsdguy1
April 27th, 2018, 03:53 PM
Just watch below from today and you should be good to go.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFqHt6Bc470


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TL-RSccUH0

Dexter
April 27th, 2018, 09:33 PM
Roderick Strong killed Bryan's chest :rip:

TooCool
April 28th, 2018, 03:47 AM
5 hour show, holy crap. I watched it starting at 8:30 PM tonight and didn't finish until 1. (Fast forwarded through the Reigns/Lesnar match and the video packages.)

Here are my thoughts on the "PPV/House Show". It was extremely predictable for the most part, as far as brand extension matches went.

Cena/HHH - I personally thought it was boring. First show there for Saudi Arabia so they need to show off the basic wrestling stuff. To me, it's 2 stars we don't really need to see wrestle, especially with nothing on the line. Cena winning is no surprise as the crowd was Pro-Cena. Good result to start the show.

Cedric Alexander vs Kalisto for the Cruiserweight Title - This was a good match. More stiff than I expected too. Also nice to see Kalisto go back to tights because him wearing trunks looks stupid on him. The crowd was dead for this match though, probably because they have no idea who these two were.

Matt Hardy & Bray Wyatt vs The Bar for the RAW Tag Titles - This result was obvious since The Bar got drafted to Smackdown. At least Cole mentioned that should The Bar win, they go back to RAW. But we all knew that wasn't going to happen. I'm excited to see what Hardy and Wyatt do with the Tag Titles though. Should be fun.

Jeff Hardy vs Jinder Mahal for the US Title - That Jinder botch was brutal... a missed Whisper in the wind and Jinder falls down anyway. I guess the "wind" part did it. Other than that, the match was okay. It was pretty much the exact thing we saw on RAW 4 days ago.

Bludgeon Brothers vs The Usos for the Smackdown Tag Titles - Very surprised that The Usos looked as strong as they did. Other than that, it was a standard tag match.

Seth Rollins vs Finn Balor, vs Samoa Joe vs The Miz in a Ladder Match for the IC Title - Great match overall. I think the spots were lacking compared to your typical money in the bank ladder matches. But it was entertaining through and through. I expected Seth to retain anyway (though part of me was hoping Finn would win it). But the way Seth won was pretty creative. Also, did Finn get a cut on his eye because the belt hit his face as Seth pulled it down? Finn wasn't bleeding before that.

Saudi Arabia tryouts & Daivari Brothers segment - Fun little segment for a cheap pop. Good for WWE to do that.

AJ Styles vs Shinsuke Nakamura for the WWE Title - Very disappointed they went the double count out route. But understandable given that Backlash is next Sunday. When they wrestled at WM, I kept waiting for them to hit that 2nd gear and they never did. Tonight, they did but only for a short while and then they decided to do the double countout finish. At least the story is that AJ is sick of being low blowed so hopefully it becomes a No DQ match or something.

Rusev vs The Undertaker in a Casket Match - The crowd really dug Taker's entrance huh? That's the star power you need even though we all know the match won't be very good. Maybe I was just sad knowing Rusev and English were going to lose anyway, so I didn't care much for this match. Always nice to see Taker though since he only has so many matches left.

Brock Lesnar vs Roman Reigns for the Universal Title - I'll admit, I fully expected Reigns to win the title. I fast forwarded through all of it because I don't care for either of these guys and then I heard Lesnar's music. The spear off the cage is so tacky but I get that they're going for that "OMG" moment. Reigns definitely touched both feet first though, so I guess it's something for him to complain about and then he can get YET another title shot.

50 Man Royal Rumble Match

- Oh my god, I just burst into tears laughing when Titus did that. He has two left feet like David Otunga. I have not seen anything that funny in a loooong time.
- I'm sad Tye Dillinger didn't come out at #10. (http://letsgokings.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=10.) That should be a thing! But he came out at 42.
- ucsdguy, your boy Tucker Knight! Nice to see him in the Rumble. I couldn't help but notice that a lot of NXT guys were training these Saudi Arabia peeps. So it's good to see them get rewarded by being in the Rumble.
- I'm also pleasantly surprised and happy to see that all the wrestlers that worked earlier in the night weren't slotted in the Rumble.
- Daniel Bryan was a beast in there. Him and Roddy Strong tore it up.
- Not a fan of Michael Cole being such a huge fan of Elias. Reminds me of the time when he cheered for Miz like crazy but at least then he was a heel announcer. Right now he's a face, and doing that is weird while Graves can't stand Elias. lol
- And finally, did you see Big Cass almost get injured as soon as he got in the ring? Bad timing on Strowman's part to do the "power out" move. Someone almost fell on Cass's leg just as he entered the ring. At the same time though, I didn't want Big Cass to win it. Glad he didn't.

All in all, a standard PPV/House Show. The Rumble itself was fun and that's why it's my favorite PPV of all time.

ucsdguy1
April 30th, 2018, 10:07 AM
so....do they set up a lesnar/reigns rematch? Do they pass lesnar on to someone new, or do they make it a triple threat match with lesna/reigns/joe at the next match?

Or do we just not see Lesnar for 2 or 3 months..

LetTigerIn
April 30th, 2018, 10:33 AM
https://media.giphy.com/media/2YeheNa7pHNTSPH60A/giphy.gif

LetTigerIn
April 30th, 2018, 10:35 AM
so....do they set up a lesnar/reigns rematch? Do they pass lesnar on to someone new, or do they make it a triple threat match with lesna/reigns/joe at the next match?

Or do we just not see Lesnar for 2 or 3 months..


Yes.

TooCool
April 30th, 2018, 11:19 AM
Yes.

:lol: at the response. Sad but true.

I don't think Lesnar is even scheduled for Backlash this Sunday. Which is why Joe is fighting Reigns.

As for RAW tonight.. they better do something with Titus. Capitalize on that fail and turn it into gold.

ucsdguy1
April 30th, 2018, 12:46 PM
:lol: at the response. Sad but true.

I don't think Lesnar is even scheduled for Backlash this Sunday. Which is why Joe is fighting Reigns.

As for RAW tonight.. they better do something with Titus. Capitalize on that fail and turn it into gold.
if they were on the same show they could probably have Rusev come out and teach Jinder how to actually take a hit. Or have him teach Titus how to run properly. But that's a pipe dream.

Nah Rusev is better than that.

CIrvine
April 30th, 2018, 03:58 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/2YeheNa7pHNTSPH60A/giphy.gif
This reminds me of the Shockmaster from WCW.

ucsdguy1
May 1st, 2018, 08:22 AM
Another great montreal crowd last night. Those pops for Zayn and Owens, damn. The "Oui Oui Oui" chants were great. The singing for Rollins. Announcers once again called Montreal a non-conventional crowd much like a "post-wrestlemania raw crowd" in their reaction to Roman.

I still can't figure out if Reigns is going to get a rematch with Lesnar (probably since even Rollins brought up his feet touching first), or just holdover for matches with Joe, or both. Hell it almost seemed like they were setting up Rollins/Lesnar with his digs at Brock.

Strowman/Lashley vs. Zayn/Owens at backlash. Not much in the way of buildup to this one, I imagine we'll see a few more running shoulder bumps from Strowman. Is there any sense of any storyline at all for why Lashley has to do with anything? (that sentence made about as much sense as his storyline).

Sasha briefly mentions her frustration with Bayley backstage. She has a match in which the Riott Squad distracts her causing a loss. No Bayley to be found. Great way to build up their match.

Great match from Rollins/Balor for a Raw. Small hints of heel turn for Balor, but he really doesn't have a set place to go from here.

Nice heart to heart with Rollins/Montreal after Raw last night: https://www.cagesideseats.com/wwe/2018/5/1/17306498/montreal-loved-seth-rollins-post-raw-fan-video-great-emotional-promo

LetTigerIn
May 1st, 2018, 08:48 AM
Some speculate that the eventual build will be toward Lashley vs Brock.

ucsdguy1
May 1st, 2018, 09:03 AM
Some speculate that the eventual build will be toward Lashley vs Brock.
They've got a LOOOONG way to go to make me care about that at all

ucsdguy1
May 1st, 2018, 10:29 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcFnd81W4AAuolh.jpg

LetTigerIn
May 1st, 2018, 10:34 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcFnd81W4AAuolh.jpg

They really were everywhere!

ucsdguy1
May 1st, 2018, 01:54 PM
Sometimes wwe does know how to capitalize on something..

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/8JeqnNfjhMN3aSKeHdm28ERp73Q=/0x0:553x435/920x0/filters:focal(0x0:553x435):format(webp)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/10759193/RSS_TitusShirt.png

Dexter
May 1st, 2018, 08:40 PM
Bah gawd, Kane might just become the Mayor of that there Tennessee town.

ucsdguy1
May 2nd, 2018, 08:03 AM
Lana knows all. Sorry Aiden. But at least it's a storyline!

Nothing else on Smackdown really interested me.

TooCool
May 7th, 2018, 01:48 PM
Backlash pissed me off last night. I turned it off after the WWE Championship Match.

- When I found out that Styles/Nakamura wasn't in the Main Event, I was already peeved especially since the Universal Title Match isn't even on the card. Vince insisting that Roman Reigns main event is a huge FU to all the fans that continue to support his company. I unsubscribed from the WWE Network as well for the first time since I signed up like 3 years ago. Unfortunately, my account had just renewed on April 28, so I still have like 3 weeks left. (I can still watch NXT the next day on Hulu... so I'm good there. The next TakeOver isn't until Brooklyn I think, so I might resub for that. But for now, Vince will not get $10 a month from me.)

As for the PPV itself......

- Rollins/Miz for the IC Title. This match stole the show. Then again, all the other matches sucked so that's not saying much. Unfortunately I couldn't get into this match knowing that Miz had 0% chance to win. That's the problem with the superstar shake up right before a PPV. It makes it 100% predictable. Either way, props to these two for a fun match. Rollins is the most over guy on RAW right now. He should be the one with the Universal Title to be honest.

- Nia Jax/Alexa Bliss for the RAW Women's Title. Meh. This is like their WM match where Alexa got in waaaaaaaaaay too much offense. Not sure what they're going for here with Nia Jax playing the babyface role of how fat/big people can be liked as well. I can see this angle backfiring. So how long does Nia keep the title until she drops it to Rousey?

- Jeff Hardy/Randy Orton for the US Title. I was bored during this match and only half paid attention to it. There's no story line for this one other than the fact that they "upstaged" each other during their entrances for a few weeks. Face Orton is boring and Jeff Hardy isn't exactly exciting anymore either.

- Elias concert with New Day, Rusev Day, No Way Jose, and Bobby Roode. This felt like a segment for RAW. I guess they wanted to do this segment since it's the first "co-branded" PPV even though they just had WM and The Greatest Royal Rumble. I was afraid Rusev was out there to job to Elias but thankfully that wasn't the case. Roode dancing and being silly does not suit his character at all. He needs to be a heel badly. All in all, a waste of time.

- Daniel Bryan vs Big Cass. It was okay at best. It was your typical giant vs little guy story line with Daniel Bryan having to sell the moves. The right person won and then Big Cass had to do a post match beat down so he doesn't look weak. I don't know about you guys but there's something about Big Cass that just screams "boring" to me. He's too generic.

- Carmella/Charlotte for the Smackdown Women's Title. Wow! They let Carmella win cleanly here. I honestly didn't expect that. I figured she would retain by getting herself DQed or retained with the help of the Iiconics but I guess not. The match itself wasn't very good though.. lol

- AJ Styles/Shinsuke Nakamura for the WWE Title. The match was good while it lasted. Although my gripe with No DQ matches is when they don't go for a weapon immediately. Or in this case, why didn't Nakamura go for a low blow sooner? Part of me wondered if Styles was wearing a cup but I guess not. I absolutely hated the finish though. You can't have a No DQ match and then have the both of them get counted out. It's a piss poor way to set up a Last Man Standing match. Plus this is also Nakamura's 5th title match. (He lost 2 to Jinder and now 3 to AJ). That makes look weak. Look at what happened to Rusev and Wade Barrett. I'm afraid Shinsuke is going the same path.. thanks Vince.

And that was it. I didn't care for the other two matches. I read the results and I didn't miss anything. It's your usual Owens/Zayn not working together and losing. Then you have Joe look bad in a loss to Reigns. I'm glad the crowd **** all over that match too but knowing Vince, he's going to blame Samoa Joe for it instead.

ucsdguy1
May 7th, 2018, 03:32 PM
I was a bit surprised by how much offense Bliss got in against Nia. I would just assume they make Nia this unstoppable force but they made her pretty vulnerable. Did like her speech after the match though. I mean come on, it's uplifting! (Yeah Jax actually got some boos here) The Bliss feud can end now (editor's note: probably as it's being reported Bliss suffered a shoulder injury going for further testing)

Yep as soon as Rusev came out I figured great he's going to get pinned by Elias. Now actually, if that happened and Aiden in some way caused him to lose, that would have at least furthered the storyline (that's too reasonable I guess). The whole segment though was more or less a waste of time.

Bryan vs. Cass was about what I expected. Figured Bryan would win but Cass would somehow save face. Match wasn't anything to write home about. How freaking fast did Cass tap out? I mean geez struggle a little bit man. I have no desire to see this feud continue. Cass to me still seems like he needs to latch onto someone to be effective.

That crowd was pissed when Styles/Nakamura ended double countout. How exactly does this enhance Shinsuke's credibility? And Joe/Reigns....WTF? Have Joe win and go on to challenge Styles for the title. Have him do something! Losing cleanly like that? It's like wow I'm supposed to be impressed after all his threatening interviews? The Joe/Reigns match really wasn't even as bad as I thought it might be. But yeah.

Oh and Asuke, on an unprecendted unbeaten streak, one of the strongest women in history, could not beat Charlotte. But Carmella can beat her cleanly just like that because she landed wrong.

Owens/Zayn I'm already over. The two of them disagreeing and turning on each other happened months ago and creative writing just let it go the wayside. Why should we care now? And now what for Strowman/Lashley? I thought Lashley might attack Braun after the match to show he's the new big dog (no pun intended). Do they just continue being a tag team used solely to beat up on someone who has it coming?

ucsdguy1
May 8th, 2018, 08:23 AM
Hm....Jinder might be the only guy who may actually get fans behind Reigns? Or more probable, get fans more behind bathroom breaks. (if I didn't think for one second next week Angle will say whoa I have an idea, Reigns vs. Jinder and the winner gets into MITB!)

yes that was a Rusev Day chant that interrupted Elias/Roode segment.

Owens sold those Strowman shoulder blocks ridiculously.

Another incremental addition to the Bayley/Sasha storyline.

I don't remember much else.

LetTigerIn
May 8th, 2018, 10:22 AM
The next TakeOver isn't until Brooklyn I think, so I might resub for that. But for now, Vince will not get $10 a month from me.)


IIRC, TakeOver shows up on Hulu just like any other episode of NXT.

I didn't mind the DKO for AJ and Shinsuke, and the match was good. The match did remind me, though, that the announcing is just plain terrible on both main shows right now. I think if Mauro had been calling this match, it would have had a much different vibe. Or just watch with the sound down. I don't dislike Tom Phillips, but I do think he could be better at storytelling. Michael Cole is just the worst ever and should be embarrassed that he still doesn't know the names of basic wrestling holds after 20 years of doing this; he shows absolutely no pride in his craft or the business.

I also did think the Rollins v Miz match was very good, and I'll add this… when The Miz first came around, I thought he was just some annoying guy who lacked ability and didn't deserve the spot he'd been given. Now, I think I was right about being annoying and lacking ability (at the time), but I was wrong about deserving that spot. I believe he also did realize the opportunity that his pseudo-celebrity afforded him at that time, and it's been amazing to see him seemingly work his ass off, stay loyal and tenacious, and become one of the best performers in the company who makes the absolute most out of everything presented to him. If Michael Cole had half the engine of The Miz, he'd be the new Jim Ross by now.

I agree about the Nia bullying angle being on a bad tipping point. I find it slightly funny, TBH. It reminds me of when Bret was that Canadian heel, so he'd come out and say things like,"In Canada, everybody has health care!" and people would boo the hell out of that. I found that hilarious. If that kind of backlash happened to Nia, it wouldn't be as funny, because getting the boos would have been unintentional, but it seemed like they were close in coming at Backlash. Oh, I just realized I wrote "backlash" twice there. No reference intended on the first one. Anyway, I think I would still laugh if the crowd started booing, but for a different reason. "I want to be a role model, so little girls will not be afraid to be themselves." "Boo!"

I actually enjoyed the Elias bit on Backlash, probably because I have now completely resigned my thought process that a PPV now does not have the same meaning it once did.

One more incidental thing: I was watching some segment last night — I can't even remember off the top of my head which one it was, but it had quite a few wrestlers involved — and I thought,"wow, these guys are all really good." It was just some inconsequential segment, but during it I was just struck with how many really good wrestlers there are right now. Bless them all, seriously (even the not-so-good ones). Also, it reminds me that the more the WWE tries to be not about wrestling, the more really good wrestling goes potentially unnoticed by the "WWE Universe." This is something that needs to be addressed, IMO.

Did I mention that I think Michael Cole is the absolute worst announcer?

Sorry. Not sure why I was so chatty today.

ucsdguy1
May 10th, 2018, 08:18 AM
https://hottopic.scene7.com/is/image/HotTopic/11441330_hi?$pdp_hero_zoom$

ucsdguy1
May 15th, 2018, 08:35 AM
So, Nia Jax vs. Rousey sure came out of nowhere. Could we not be better served having this wait until say, Summerslam or thereafter? Are they really going to take the belt of Nia so quickly, or will we see some interference?

So are Bayley and Sasha friends again? Bayley getting squashed really moves along that feud doesn't it! I mean geezus have Sasha come out to help her and inadvertently cause her to lose or SOMETHING.

I kind of like unhinged Roman. If they let him go completely unhinged. He should've come out and just laid out everyone in the qualifying match causing no winner. The feud with Jinder is a major, major bathroom break though.

Hey remember how that guy Brock Lesnar from some time back is still the UNIVERSAL CHAMPION???

oh and bring on the B TEAM shirts!

CIrvine
May 16th, 2018, 07:53 AM
Smack Down last night was a pretty good shoe, except the camera work sucked.

ucsdguy1
May 16th, 2018, 08:09 AM
and for some unappealing smackdown thoughts:

Carmella defends against Asuke? I wouldn't think they would take the belt off Carmella so soon, which means just another loss for Asuke the midcarder?? Or Carmella disqualifies herself and keeps the title. ::facepalm::

So Bryan defeats Cass. Cass comes out and says I tapped only so I could get up quickly and beat you up. Bryan beats up Cass again. can this please be over?

Styles/Nakamura was fun, but I'm already soured on the number of matches between the two. Did we need a full match just to decide the stipulation for another match?

ucsdguy1
May 17th, 2018, 11:50 AM
it's quiet in these parts. but hell since I am on a roll...

NXT
Velveteen Dream/Ricochet started off a lot of fun last night. Sullivan coming in to destroy them was kind of lame. Let him beat up some other joes to show his might (like maybe during Reeves and kona). Let these two go it alone, I don't care about a handicap match next week that Sullivan will inevitably win. I want to see Dream/Ricochet in a long singles match at a Takeover. They have the potential to be amazing.

Did I mention how much I love Pete Dunne?

TooCool
May 21st, 2018, 10:38 AM
Smackdown Live is moving to Fox (possibly back to Friday night) starting October 2019.

Vince is going to be even more rich now.

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Edit: According to The Hollywood Reporter, WWE and FOX have agreed to a five-year deal for Smackdown Live which is worth more than $1 billion dollars. The deal is reportedly "nearing completion" and is worth $205 million annually. Smackdown Live is expected to air on FOX's main network.

Crazy $$$ for Vince. Can we get pyros back?

LetTigerIn
May 21st, 2018, 12:00 PM
Can we get pyros back?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWvpVF8xHo4

ucsdguy1
May 21st, 2018, 01:37 PM
Haha I bought 15 shares of wwe stock this morning in mid 53s. Figured it was already up and I can hold for awhile. It shot up to 58 in an hour, so I got out. Quickest $70 or so (before tax) ever made!

TooCool
May 21st, 2018, 03:16 PM
Haha I bought 15 shares of wwe stock this morning in mid 53s. Figured it was already up and I can hold for awhile. It shot up to 58 in an hour, so I got out. Quickest $70 or so (before tax) ever made!

You own WWE Stock?! =o

TooCool
May 22nd, 2018, 09:07 AM
Read the results of RAW last night and it sounded pretty bland.

Also couldn't help but notice that WWE already forgot about the Authors of Pain. That was quick wasn't it?

And all PPVs moving forward will be 4 hours now. That means we'll get like 2-3 extra matches to make up for all the wrestlers left out of the card. Does this mean the Big 4 PPVs will be even longer? :facepalm:

LetTigerIn
May 22nd, 2018, 09:47 AM
Read the results of RAW last night and it sounded pretty bland.

RAW was on last night? Oh, yeah, I watched it. It must have been pretty bland.



Also couldn't help but notice that WWE already forgot about the Authors of Pain. That was quick wasn't it?

They're not forgotten! They're the main event on WWE Main Event along with Mojo Rawley, and… well, I forgot. Wait, who were we talking about?



And all PPVs moving forward will be 4 hours now. That means we'll get like 2-3 extra matches to make up for all the wrestlers left out of the card. Does this mean the Big 4 PPVs will be even longer? :facepalm:

The big 4 PPV shows will not be longer, but 2 hours will be added to each pre-show.

ucsdguy1
May 22nd, 2018, 10:30 AM
Raw was not great. My top takeaways:

- So Nia Jax is a heel now? After the whole bullying story she just lets Stephanie McMahon feed her against Randa? The faceoff with Rousey was rushed and has no backstory whatsoever. Horrible sell job and in my opinion way too early for Rousey to take the belt.
- The Lashley sisters segment was beyond awful
- Reigns/Jinder is beyond awful. This is soooo worth adding an extra hour to a ppv.
- Okay so they let Finn get a wee bit of offense on Braun, and even a small show of respect from these hands after the match. But really just made Balor look like a rag doll with no legitimate shot of ever doing anything.

I really don't remember much else of note off the top of my head, which pretty much sums it up. Oh I think the B team won again, and their hilarious shock facial expressions upon winning continued.

Authors of who?

ucsdguy1
May 22nd, 2018, 07:21 PM
Happy Lana Day!

TooCool
May 22nd, 2018, 11:40 PM
Happy Lana Day!

Where the heck was Rusev? lol

Hopefully they dropped that storyline of Lana wanting Rusev to dump Aiden.

ucsdguy1
May 23rd, 2018, 03:11 PM
Where the heck was Rusev? lol

Hopefully they dropped that storyline of Lana wanting Rusev to dump Aiden.
When I saw Aiden come out with her, I felt like yup he's going to cause her to lose and that's coming. Sure seemed to drop quickly.

I don't know where Rusev was, but his tweet before the match with Billie Kay was awesome:
#SDLive will be #RusevDay today when my beautiful wife @LanaWWE defeats the Australian lady with weird accent.

ucsdguy1
May 24th, 2018, 04:06 PM
Pete Dunne just posted this with a caption "Gonna have to win the @WWE Universal title"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dd-j9mIU0AAD2I4.jpg

I about lost it.

ucsdguy1
May 29th, 2018, 09:04 AM
Yeah that Rousey/Jax segment.....why spend so long making Nia an anti-bully face, only to just turn her into a heel bully within a week or two?

Dexter
June 4th, 2018, 01:43 PM
Poor Zeda, maybe she'll be back in ten years.

ucsdguy1
June 6th, 2018, 01:45 PM
Did Becky Lynch just make Charlotte quickly tap out?

TooCool
June 6th, 2018, 03:26 PM
Did Becky Lynch just make Charlotte quickly tap out?

Becky/Charlotte would have been amazing if they got 10 more minutes. I'm surprised Becky got the win since she does need it badly. Unfortunately, I don't think either one will win the MITB as that honor goes to someone from RAW.

Who do you think is going in the MITB for the New Day? I'm thinking it's Big E, especially since they gave him like two wins recently. Would love it if Kofi finally got to win one... but I can see them giving Big E a singles run while Kofi and Xavier can continue tagging. Ultimately though, I see Samoa Joe winning it.

As for the Last Man Standing match, I really hope Shinsuke wins it finally but I have a feeling that AJ Styles will "out smart" him by finally wearing a cup. So when they have that double low blow again, AJ will be the one standing up at the end.

On the RAW side... I'm sad to see Sami Zayn get stuck in such a bad feud with Lashley. We all know who's winning that one.

ucsdguy1
June 6th, 2018, 04:20 PM
Becky/Charlotte would have been amazing if they got 10 more minutes. I'm surprised Becky got the win since she does need it badly. Unfortunately, I don't think either one will win the MITB as that honor goes to someone from RAW.

Who do you think is going in the MITB for the New Day? I'm thinking it's Big E, especially since they gave him like two wins recently. Would love it if Kofi finally got to win one... but I can see them giving Big E a singles run while Kofi and Xavier can continue tagging. Ultimately though, I see Samoa Joe winning it.

As for the Last Man Standing match, I really hope Shinsuke wins it finally but I have a feeling that AJ Styles will "out smart" him by finally wearing a cup. So when they have that double low blow again, AJ will be the one standing up at the end.

On the RAW side... I'm sad to see Sami Zayn get stuck in such a bad feud with Lashley. We all know who's winning that one.
Yeah as soon as Charlotte tapped I was like, well Becky has no shot at mitb now! Charlotte did tap out pretty quick too. They need to milk these tapouts, let them struggle more before finally giving and tapping.

I think it's Big E as well for the New Day, but could easily be any of the 3. My pick to win the mitb match is the Miz. I just have this feeling he'll find a way to squeak out a win while everyone is annihilating each other. The Zayn/Lashley feud has been beyond awful.

Still not quite sure how Bayley didn't get into the women's mitb match, and whether they even still have her program with banks going anywhere. But perhaps she'll get involved somehow.

ucsdguy1
June 13th, 2018, 09:05 AM
Okay MITB predictions. have at it:

Men's MITB Ladder Match: sticking with The Miz finding a way

Women's MITB Ladder Match: Lana (for some reason they seem to be pushing her without having her do much of anything. I don't like "Lana Day" nearly as much as Rusev day, but can see her completely overshadowing her husband in writers' minds). This pick is probably completely wrong. I should probably go with Bliss or Naomi. But if they really wanted to do something fun, have Banks win it. And down the road when she chooses to cash it in, have Bayley interfere causing her to lose her chance. Now that would get the rivalry going..

Styles/Nakamura: Nakamura (he finally has to get one over on AJ)

Elias/Rollins: Rollins (keep Rollins as the fighting champ)

Rousey/Jax: Rousey (absolutely hate how quickly they turned Jax heel. Can't help but feel they're going to give Rousey the win here, unless Jax gets herself disqualified)

Asuke/Carmella: Carmella (too soon for Carmella to drop the title. I just hope it isn't a clean win or they're really just ruining the essence of Asuke. Granted, becky, charlotte, naomi and lana surrounding and staring at Asuke after their match last night does hint one of them with the briefcase may have to challenge her. But I sense a swerve.)

Reigns/Mahal: Reigns (bathroom break)

Zayn/Lashley: Lashley (another bathroom break)

Cass/Bryan: Cass (only because Cass has to actually win something to get heat. Only other option is Bryan wins but Cass annihilates him after the fact, but I see them letting Cass get a win here to build up his character that no one cares about).

Gallows & Anderson/Bludgeon Brothers: Bludgeon Brothers (match moved to pre-show)


And while we're at it, how about Takeover predictions:
Gargano/Ciampa: Ciampa (time for Ciampa to get one over and get some real heat)
Black/Sullivan: Black (I see them pushing Sullivan but he's just not ready yet)
Baszler/Cross: Baszler (Cross is psycho but really a holdover in the women's division. They're keeping the belt on Baszler)
Undisputed/Lorcan & Birch: Undisputed (come on no way they lose this one)
Ricochet/Velveteen Dream: Ricochet (back and forth on this one, feel though a win is a good way to get Ricochet's momentum going. This has the potential for a ridiculously good match)

TooCool
June 13th, 2018, 01:57 PM
Thanks for sharing your predictions. I actually haven't bothered to sit down to watch anything... not even Smackdown after I canceled my WWE Network last month. I still go to their Youtube page to click on a clip here and there but that's about it. (I also read the results too)

But I'll make my predictions too if you wanna read it.

Men's MITB Ladder Match: I think The Miz should definitely win this, he deserves it the most. I also couldn't help but notice that he went back to his Fauxhawk.. the same hair style he had when he won his first MITB. Maybe I'm looking too much into it. =P If Miz doesn't win it, I'd like Samoa Joe to have it. Either way, a Smackdown guy should have it because when you have AJ/Shinsuke at every show they can tease cashing it in. No point in giving it to a RAW guy when Lesnar isn't even there 99% of the time.

Women's MITB Ladder Match: It is strange that Lana is receiving quite the push but I don't see her winning it. I think RAW is getting this one and it will be Natalya. Looks like they've been doing the whole Nattie/Rousey being best friends thing. So it seems like Rousey is winning the RAW Women's Title then Nattie will turn heel and cash it in on Rousey. Or hell, maybe don't put the belt on Rousey yet but have Nattie crash the match with the contract (like Rollins did at WM and made it a Triple Threat). Make it look like Rousey was gonna win but then Nattie steals it by pinning Nia Jax.

Styles/Nakamura: I agree with you.. Shinsuke HAS to win it now right? I still think they'll repeat the double low blow spot but then AJ Styles is the only one smart enough to wear a cup this time. I hope that's not the case but I think Vince just doesn't see Nakamura as a champ. Otherwise he wouldn't have lost to Jinder twice. Hope I'm wrong though.

Elias/Rollins: I still don't think Elias is interesting as a wrestler. Great on the mic but that's about it. Dirt sheet did say some junk a few weeks ago that Rollins might be better off "chasing" Elias. So maybe Elias wins just for the hell of it and then Rollins can get his rematch.

Rousey/Jax: Yeah that Nia Jax face run was short lived. So much for her speech about bullying huh? If Ronda loses here there is no way she loses clean. And you know WWE, they'll want to slap the title on her asap for media purposes.

Asuka/Carmella: Agree with you here. On paper there's no way Asuka should lose to someone like Carmella. But this is WWE and they value people who can cut a promo like Carmella over someone like Asuka.

Reigns/Mahal: This match is going to be the main event isn't it? :barf: I'd like to see Jinder win just for ****s and giggles but we all know Roman will win here. After all, he's facing Lesnar again at Summerslam.

Zayn/Lashley: Poor Sami. Lashley is just as boring as I remembered. He really didn't need to come back but hey, I'm sure he likes the $$$.

Cass/Bryan: Unfortunately I don't see Daniel winning here. He already beat Cass cleanly and yet here we are again. So like you said, Cass is likely winning this match. In the end, it doesn't hurt Daniel anyway if he loses. But speaking of Daniel, I think WWE dropped the ball by not having him interact at all with The Miz since the Superstar shakeup. For those two to hate each other, they sure do a good job of avoiding one another for months.

Gallows & Anderson/Bludgeon Brothers: Bludgeon Brothers (match moved to pre-show). Moved to pre-show? Ugh. Either way, Goodbrothers didn't stand a chance but at least it's a new opponent instead of New Day and Usos over and over. I was hoping that if it wasn't the pre-show, someone like Sanity could cost the Bludgeon Brothers the title. But since it's on the pre-show, I guess Sanity isn't showing up yet again.

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TakeOver predictions

What was HHH thinking in having a tour in Europe when there's a PPV here in the States? We're missing guys like Adam Cole and EC3 on the card because of that.

Gargano/Ciampa: Their match was already settled at the last TakeOver yet they're feuding AGAIN. I know they'll still tear the house down but I also don't think they'll be able to top their previous performance. Either way, Ciampa has to win here. No ifs ands or buts about it.

Black/Sullivan: Yep. I don't see Black losing the NXT Title so soon.

Baszler/Cross: There was a reason why they kept Nikki down in NXT right? Does she become the NXT champ? I still don't think Baszler is interesting either but WWE loves those UFC turned wrestlers. So yeah, Baszler is retaining here.

Undisputed/Lorcan & Birch: Love Oney Lorcan and Danny Birch as wrestlers but they don't have any charisma. Undisputed Era is not going to lose this one.

Ricochet/Velveteen Dream: Ricochet hurt himself at a house show in France today (or yesterday). Hopefully he's good to go for the PPV. This match will likely steal the show too so make sure to watch it! I think Ricochet is winning this one because losses don't really hurt the Velveteen Dream.

So do I re-subscribe to the WWE Network? They did send me an email telling me it's free but I'm not sure if that was the usual junk for new subscribers only. We'll see.

ucsdguy1
June 13th, 2018, 02:26 PM
funny enough, the dirt rags today said the original plan was to have a third tag team mitb ladder match. But they scrapped the idea and in turn pushed back the AoP and Sanity true debuts.

Absolutely agree on a smackdown guy having the mitb cash in due to Lesnar NEVER being around. Seriously does anyone even remember there's still a title to chase?

NXT:
I don't know if you've seen any of the recent NXT episodes (probably not if you canceled the network), but the promos between Ciampa and Gargano have been fantastic. Between Gargano accidentally smashing his wife and her refusing to take part in what he's becoming thereafter, plus the recent bloody brawl, they've done a good job of taking this rivalry to "that next place". Ciampa though has to win.
HHH said Ricochet tweaked his shoulder but should be fine for the ppv. Hopefully that is truth.

Also, let's not forget that on this date in 1993, this happened:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jPt5Ofxcxc

"oh my gawd, his camera exploded right on hogan's face"

TooCool
June 13th, 2018, 03:14 PM
funny enough, the dirt rags today said the original plan was to have a third tag team mitb ladder match. But they scrapped the idea and in turn pushed back the AoP and Sanity true debuts.

Absolutely agree on a smackdown guy having the mitb cash in due to Lesnar NEVER being around. Seriously does anyone even remember there's still a title to chase?

NXT:
I don't know if you've seen any of the recent NXT episodes (probably not if you canceled the network), but the promos between Ciampa and Gargano have been fantastic. Between Gargano accidentally smashing his wife and her refusing to take part in what he's becoming thereafter, plus the recent bloody brawl, they've done a good job of taking this rivalry to "that next place". Ciampa though has to win.
HHH said Ricochet tweaked his shoulder but should be fine for the ppv. Hopefully that is truth.

Also, let's not forget that on this date in 1993, this happened:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jPt5Ofxcxc

"oh my gawd, his camera exploded right on hogan's face"

I haven't been keeping up with NXT. That's the only thing I know I'm missing by not having the Network. I mean I have Hulu but I hate the commercial breaks on it lol.

And that Youtube clip. Love the reaction from the crowd. Back then it was 100% real to all of them.

LetTigerIn
June 13th, 2018, 04:48 PM
I saw a meme the other day comparing Rollins' long reign as champion with Lesnar's current reign and also comparing the number of title defenses in that time. I can't find it now, but it's exactly what you'd expect.

ucsdguy1
June 16th, 2018, 05:33 PM
Match hasn’t even started yet but velveteen hogan is awesome

LetTigerIn
June 16th, 2018, 10:19 PM
Dear Money In The Bank,

Follow that.


Sincerely,
Takeover

ucsdguy1
June 17th, 2018, 02:46 PM
Dear Money In The Bank,

Follow that.


Sincerely,
Takeover
No chance



You’ve got, no chance in hell....

TooCool
June 18th, 2018, 09:56 AM
So I didn't re-sub this weekend. Read the results. Sounds like I missed a great TakeOver even though the results were 100% expected. Sometimes that's okay so long as it fits the story.

I did catch the Men's MITB match on a stream I found. That might have been the first ladder match where I don't think the crowd booed any of the contestants. Obviously Rusev and Kofi got the biggest pop. I think that's where WWE dropped the ball again. That was the kind of match Kofi needs to win just once. (Hell, I'd argue that Rusev needs it too.) But I guess Vince really don't want to make Kofi a World Champ, not even for a day. Braun absolutely does not need the contract but he won it anyway. Now he can hold it for awhile and Cole can keep screaming "Monster in the bank!!". I'm assuming he holds it until Summerslam and then make the predictable cash in on Brock during his match with Roman.

As far as the results go... I'm really surprised Alexa won the MITB and then cashed it in immediately. I'm sure they were going for a "OMG" moment but damn... Vince really likes her huh? I mean who doesn't? But I think this is 5 title reigns in the last 2-3 years. That's... ridiculous. Also, do we even want to see Alexa Bliss vs Ronda Rousey at Summerslam? :lol:

I heard the AJ Styles/Shinsuke Nakamura match was pretty good. Started slow like all Last Man Standing matches. How many low blows where there? But I just read that AJ retained and I'm sad to see Shinsuke lose yet again. Where does he go from here? Does he just feud with Jeff Hardy for the US Title? I see Samoa Joe going after AJ Styles now.

I did love how WWE re-signed James Ellsworth though. Way to go James!

ucsdguy1
June 18th, 2018, 10:37 AM
While the crowd popped big for Ellsworth, they could've run this angle with anyone but Asuke. They've completely ruined her sense of invincibility and what a monster she could have been.

The men's mitb match was pretty darn good. Everyone got spots in, and the crowd was super into it. (pretty hot crowd for most of the night - although I only really watched the title matches and the mitb matches).

Surprised Bliss cashed in that quickly too. Figured Rousey had to had some interference so as not to take a clean loss. Rousey did pretty well in the match. She took some good bumps and still moves very fast to get into submission holds. Also figured it would've taken a bit more to pin Nia, or at least Bliss should've done something to her hurt arm to either make her tape out or unable to continue. The whole Bliss/Jax bully angle has also been rendered relatively useless. If Rousey is going after Bliss, where does Jax go from here? or they just prolong another Jax vs. Rousey to see who eventually gets a shot at Alexa. Moreover they could've gone with some new blood while still getting Bliss back into the title scene, but it is what it is.

Styles/Nakamura was a great match. Nice touch to have Nakamura beg more with "come on" and take a flying forearm off the top rope to the announcers table. But I really have no idea where Nakamura goes from here.

I didn't watch the Reigns/Mahal match, but heard there were NXT, This is Awful, Johnny Wrestling, and Let's Go Cena/Cena Sucks chants throughout. Also didn't watch Bryan/Cass, but surprised Bryan won again. Cass has no direction.

Also not cool that Paige had to post this after the event:


"To the 'fan' that decided to pie face me through my car window and then tell me to 'lose some weight Paige'.. you inspired me to keep being myself and eat whatever the f I want," she wrote. "Good luck with your karma!"

ucsdguy1
June 18th, 2018, 11:32 AM
Also - I love the Velveteen Dream. Dressed like and doing all of Hogan's moves was classic. Ricochet's air time was substantial. Really a quality match up. I don't know if Velveteen works at the main level, but for now he's one of those guys that seems incapable of having a bad match.

Gargano/Ciampa was fairly brutal. ECW-esque to say the least (come on - "use my sign" into a stop sign?) It's too bad it only took one move (albeit onto what I think was wood after Ciampa lifted up the mat) to defeat Gargano, especially with his hands in handcuffs. But geez that one was not for kids.

oh and

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/yfP6Vgtt1YeElZY7ANbRWk5cWD4=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/11556239/miz_gif.gif

ucsdguy1
June 19th, 2018, 09:19 AM
I get they want to push Ziggler/Drew. But unless they're throwing Rollins into the Universal title picture, his reign as a fighting IC champ could have gone on much, much longer. At the least lose it on a ppv.

So Bayley/Sasha feud is back on. I would say good, except for the whole let's start it, take a few months off, then continue it thing.

Strowman is now buddy buddy with Balor even though he was one of the guys who tried to gang up on him? Those Balor puppy eyes, geezus.

And looks like Extreme Rules will have mitb part 2, without the ladder and briefcase, as a Raw main event. Rousey gets a month off apparently. I assume that let's Bliss have a quick feud with Jax, cheat to beat her, and retain until Rousey comes back.

TooCool
June 19th, 2018, 11:55 AM
I get they want to push Ziggler/Drew. But unless they're throwing Rollins into the Universal title picture, his reign as a fighting IC champ could have gone on much, much longer. At the least lose it on a ppv.

So Bayley/Sasha feud is back on. I would say good, except for the whole let's start it, take a few months off, then continue it thing.

Strowman is now buddy buddy with Balor even though he was one of the guys who tried to gang up on him? Those Balor puppy eyes, geezus.

And looks like Extreme Rules will have mitb part 2, without the ladder and briefcase, as a Raw main event. Rousey gets a month off apparently. I assume that let's Bliss have a quick feud with Jax, cheat to beat her, and retain until Rousey comes back.

I watched the Dolph/Seth and Ronda/Alexa segment on Youtube. Both were actually pretty entertaining.

So why is Ronda gone for 30 days? She needs to film a movie or something? This conveniently keeps her off of Extreme Rules though so her next "big" match is at Summerslam. But either way, loved that Stone Cold like persona. Kurt Angle sold the take down well. I also liked the relentless briefcase attacks on Alexa and Kurt. Hell, she even beat up the refs. The crowd was super hot for it so that's a good sign.

As for Ziggler winning the IC Title, that's great for him. I think it's only a matter of time until Drew McIntyre turns on him for a singles run. For now though, it's a good pair. After the B Team loses to Bray/Matt, I think Ziggler/McIntyre should win the Tag Titles as well. Make them look dominant for awhile longer.

Balor, Zayn, and even Owens needs to be booked better on RAW. What they're doing to all 3 of them is a crime.

On the Smackdown side, we're supposedly getting Sanity vs The Usos. Hopefully the crowd reacts well to Sanity.

ucsdguy1
June 19th, 2018, 12:35 PM
well then

WWE announced the following on their website: “WWE has come to terms on the release of William Morrissey (Big Cass)”. No further explanation was given regarding his departure from the company.

LetTigerIn
June 20th, 2018, 06:59 AM
So why is Ronda gone for 30 days?

So she can buck the system, and do run-ins!



Balor, Zayn, and even Owens needs to be booked better on RAW. What they're doing to all 3 of them is a crime.


The traditional WWE style is not kind to the glut of talent they have right now.

LetTigerIn
June 20th, 2018, 07:06 AM
Also, Shinsuke's promos continue to be pure gold.

ucsdguy1
June 20th, 2018, 08:00 AM
RUSEV DAY

It's just too bad he has about 0.0000000099% chance of beating Styles, and too bad they're putting him up against a current super face.

ucsdguy1
June 20th, 2018, 10:33 AM
It was Vader Time, for the last time. RIP

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TooCool
June 20th, 2018, 02:34 PM
Damn... RIP Vader. I know he had been battling health issues the last few years. Still feels too soon for him. While he wasn't one of my favorite wrestlers growing up, I do have fond memories yelling "It's time... it's time... it's BED time!" (I have no idea why I'd say that before getting ready for bed.) That's one thing a lot of wrestlers are missing these days, catchphrases.

For Smackdown Live the gauntlet match was awesome. I love how Daniel Bryan insulted The Miz in a pre-match interview about getting ready to go up against 3 of the best superstars such as Rusev, Big E, and Samoa Joe. Then having him interrupt the Bludgeon Brothers with his entrance was... interesting.

Big E put on a good fight, obviously he had no chance to win but he deserves a singles push soon. I hope the WWE realizes that you can do that without breaking up the New Day. The finish against Samoa Joe was interesting because Joe was going for the submission count out win.. only for Daniel to counter it and slide back in the ring to win. The ref did a bogus fast count from 8-10 though but they do that when it's convenient. Soon after that the Bludgeon Brothers came back out to attack Daniel Bryan which is payback for interrupting them? Miz got the nice cheap win which he can use to build his feud with Daniel in the future.

And yeah.. I was surprised Rusev got the win over Miz. So are they finally booking Rusev as a face now? Aiden didn't interfere and Rusev didn't use cheap heel tactics. Hell, he even shook AJ's hand. It was weird though that AJ punched Aiden for the "burn". In conclusion... I'm happy for Rusev. A little depressing that out of all his years in the WWE this is finally his first World Title opportunity. In the past, even time he was about to rise to the top, guys like Reigns and Cena would bury him. I don't see him beating AJ Styles either but a dueling "Rusev Day and AJ Styles" chant can be fun.

So who's going to team with Daniel Bryan to face the Bludgeon Brothers? It's a good story here because Daniel Bryan was part of the Wyatt family in the past. I'm sure they can always stick The Miz with Daniel Bryan and they can win the Tag Team Titles together before they go nuts on each other. Or do they finally use Tye Dillinger because he had been teaming with Daniel Bryan in house shows for months now?

ucsdguy1
June 20th, 2018, 02:45 PM
Why does Daniel Bryan need to be in a tag team feud with the Bludgeon Brothers? Aren't there any other tag teams who can do the job? Get him to upper to main event level status already. Tye Dillinger isn't nearly hyped enough to be his partner. Nor would he serve to give them any chance to beat them. How about Big E as a one off? Knowing wwe writers, they will have just used this as an excuse to have Bryan lose the gauntlet match, and will not re-visit the segment at all :)

If you notice, after AJ punched Aiden, Rusev looked more at Aiden to say "what the heck did you do that for?" rather than go after Styles. That was interesting. They sort of have been building Rusev as a face, not necessarily with character development, but more the lessening of heel tricks I guess. Although English still manages to insult crowds in his song intros. Let Rusev be the lighthearted yet wild Rusev Day guy. Don't paint him as a straight heel going up against styles (they probably will). Or, have English cause Rusev to lose, and Rusev finally drops him. Maybe that's the way to go.

I remember in spanish class in my younger years, one of my teachers would always ask "que hora es?". a couple of us would yell "es vader tiempo!". She would chuckle but eventually stopped asking.

TooCool
June 20th, 2018, 02:55 PM
Why does Daniel Bryan need to be in a tag team feud with the Bludgeon Brothers? Aren't there any other tag teams who can do the job? Get him to upper to main event level status already. Tye Dillinger isn't nearly hyped enough to be his partner. Nor would he serve to give them any chance to beat them. How about Big E as a one off? Knowing wwe writers, they will have just used this as an excuse to have Bryan lose the gauntlet match, and will not re-visit the segment at all :)

If you notice, after AJ punched Aiden, Rusev looked more at Aiden to say "what the heck did you do that for?" rather than go after Styles. That was interesting. They sort of have been building Rusev as a face, not necessarily with character development, but more the lessening of heel tricks I guess. Although English still manages to insult crowds in his song intros. Let Rusev be the lighthearted yet wild Rusev Day guy. Don't paint him as a straight heel going up against styles (they probably will). Or, have English cause Rusev to lose, and Rusev finally drops him. Maybe that's the way to go.

I remember in spanish class in my younger years, one of my teachers would always ask "que hora es?". a couple of us would yell "es vader tiempo!". She would chuckle but eventually stopped asking.

LOL! That is awesome.

I personally hope they don't do anything break Rusev and Aiden up. Because we all know that once that happens, we'll never see Aiden English on TV again. You're right with the Tag Team stuff... surely there are more competitive tag teams on Smackdown Live. I guess it's because they already used The Usos and New Day against the Bludgeon Brothers. And The Usos are occupied with Sanity right now. Then the Goodbrothers recently lost to the Bludgeon Brothers so they're out. But what the hell happened to The Bar? They've been MIA the last month or so right?

Oh yeah and I forgot to make a comment about Big Cass being released. I wonder what he did. Dirt sheets say it's because he abused the little Hornswoggle guy on Smackdown weeks ago when he was told he couldn't. Others are saying he was super drunk in public on the European tour. He's no different from Enzo it seems so it's weird that Enzo and Cass hate each other in real life too lol. Ultimately, I think Carmella has to be really thankful she didn't get called up with Enzo and Cass. I remember reading about how disappointed Carmella was about not being called up with them but HHH saw potential in her. So that part is cool.

ucsdguy1
June 21st, 2018, 07:55 AM
I read the same stuff about Cass, disobeying vince in the midget segment, drunk and disorderly on the european tour. You know you're in trouble when the wwe press release doesn't wish you well in your future endeavors.

ucsdguy1
June 26th, 2018, 09:36 AM
how about that pop Bayley got from San Diego when she attacked Sasha?

TooCool
July 2nd, 2018, 06:33 PM
This gif is hilarious.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/5523767b904f188ae5563060a5719f33/tenor.gif

ucsdguy1
July 3rd, 2018, 10:50 AM
Jax tells Bliss their match will be an extreme rules match.

Rousey says:

“... even though I’m suspended from Raw, I’m not suspended from Extreme Rules. So I’m gonna be buying a ticket. It’s gonna be a front row ticket.”

Hmm..

I still say Bliss finds a way to win (in a complete waste of Nia Jax once again), and Rousey would be the one to take the belt from her.

ucsdguy1
July 6th, 2018, 09:39 AM
This was 3.99 on the wwe shop the other day, so of course I didn't think twice

https://shop.wwe.com/on/demandware.static/-/Sites-main/default/dw748b9305/images/large/W13408.jpg

TooCool
July 6th, 2018, 12:22 PM
This was 3.99 on the wwe shop the other day, so of course I didn't think twice

https://shop.wwe.com/on/demandware.static/-/Sites-main/default/dw748b9305/images/large/W13408.jpg

Has she ever worn that shirt on RAW?

ucsdguy1
July 6th, 2018, 12:35 PM
Has she ever worn that shirt on RAW?
No idea. But I didn't see a Jaxfit on there..

TooCool
July 10th, 2018, 12:36 PM
"If Bayley and Sasha don't work things out, they may be fired..."

1st of all... no Dr. Shelby, last night... lame! Their segment last week was meh at best too. But still, do these writers know what they're doing? Who says Bayley and Sasha have to make up? That's why you wrestle! The build for this matchup for Summerslam is lame.

ucsdguy1
July 10th, 2018, 04:22 PM
"If Bayley and Sasha don't work things out, they may be fired..."

1st of all... no Dr. Shelby, last night... lame! Their segment last week was meh at best too. But still, do these writers know what they're doing? Who says Bayley and Sasha have to make up? That's why you wrestle! The build for this matchup for Summerslam is lame.
I've found all of these segments to be lame. In fact pretty much everything since san diego has been. They had it built so well once Bayley went crazy on Sasha. Now it's like, meh x 100.

ucsdguy1
July 12th, 2018, 10:33 AM
wow

https://www.wwe.com/f/styles/wwe_16_9_l/public/all/2018/07/ECW_feedcard--49ae6c72aa628dab479006af7b028337.jpg

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https://www.wwe.com/f/styles/gallery_img_l/public/all/2018/07/02_PD_1276--66798846b1841bc1b13ac9fe1c4c5a97.jpg

Just look at them all here: https://www.wwe.com/shows/extremerules/2018/gallery/wwe-ecw-superstar-impersonations-photos#fid-40238486

ucsdguy1
July 16th, 2018, 07:54 AM
Quick Extreme Rules thoughts:

- They really have just ruined Asuke's character.
- Lashley/Reigns was better than it could have been, but I can't see myself caring at all if Lashley is next to go after Lesnar.
- The Internet is going ape**** over the "disrespectful" crowd during the Rollins/Ziggler match. I wonder if people were this upset when crowds did this to Reigns? Also, Ziggler/McYntire played the heel card perfectly.
- Rusev put on a solid match with Styles. Everyone and their mother knew he'd lose, but he performed well. And now he has NOWHERE to go unless he finally turns on Aiden.
- Nakamura's win. Man I just had to laugh. He is on it.
- So Strowman cares more about punishment than winning the match. (nice bump Owens). But this doesn't put him in the drivers seat for a universal title shot anytime sooner does it?
- Geezus, the winner of the bliss/jax match was probably Mickie James. She was able to overcome an attack from Natalya AND Rousey and still help Bliss win. Great.

TooCool
July 16th, 2018, 10:52 AM
Quick Extreme Rules thoughts:

- They really have just ruined Asuke's character.
- Lashley/Reigns was better than it could have been, but I can't see myself caring at all if Lashley is next to go after Lesnar.
- The Internet is going ape**** over the "disrespectful" crowd during the Rollins/Ziggler match. I wonder if people were this upset when crowds did this to Reigns? Also, Ziggler/McYntire played the heel card perfectly.
- Rusev put on a solid match with Styles. Everyone and their mother knew he'd lose, but he performed well. And now he has NOWHERE to go unless he finally turns on Aiden.
- Nakamura's win. Man I just had to laugh. He is on it.
- So Strowman cares more about punishment than winning the match. (nice bump Owens). But this doesn't put him in the drivers seat for a universal title shot anytime sooner does it?
- Geezus, the winner of the bliss/jax match was probably Mickie James. She was able to overcome an attack from Natalya AND Rousey and still help Bliss win. Great.

I read the results.. here are my thoughts on top of yours.

- Ruining Asuka. I agree. It's one thing to give Carmella a short run with the Women's Title because she's amazing on the mic, but it's another thing to make Asuka look stupid in losing to Carmella over and over. It's kind of like what happened with Nakamura when he lost to Jinder and AJ over and over. But at least he has a mid-card title to carry around I suppose. Asuka doesn't have a mid-card title to chase.

- Reigns/Lashley. Yeah I don't give a **** about either one. Did the crowd crap all over this one? I guess having Bobby win is the way to go. At least that way Summerslam won't be ruined when he beats Lesnar. I think at this point, you can't have Reigns/Lesnar yet again. You just can't. Then again, it wouldn't surprise me if they do something stupid like Reigns/Lashley again (like tonight on RAW) and Reigns gets his win back because Vince loves the 50/50 booking. Then Summerslam will be a Triple Threat Match. Now *that* will be terrible.

- Was the crowd disrespectful at the start of the IC Title match? I read that they were like that because of how poorly it was booked. 30 man iron man match and there were 7 falls! wtf? Again, I didn't watch it but how on earth do you have Rollins go up 3-0 and then Ziggler comes back? Were they fresh after every pinfall or something? I don't know.. it just sounded insane to see a "score" that high for a 30 minute match.

- Yep.. no one believed Rusev can win. That's the sad part really. Where does he go from here? I'm sure right now Samoa Joe is next in line to feud with AJ Styles. Does Rusev just fight English? =x

- Glad to see Nakamura finally hold some kind of title on the main roster. Jeff Hardy certainly doesn't need the US Title. Heel Orton is good because he sucks as a face.

- Strowman/Owens feud, I don't get it. From the clips I've watched on RAW... Strowman is the good guy yet he's been bullying Owens because why?

- Thanks for your thoughts on Bliss/Jax. Good to see Mickie James as the real MVP. If only she was booked better too, and not just Alexa's sidekick.

LetTigerIn
July 16th, 2018, 11:17 AM
• I don't think Asuka is ruined. They still book her as a scary monster, and Mella is mostly running and hiding. They can keep this up a while longer, and it should fuel the fire to want to see Mella lose the belt at least, if not have Asuka win. They should introduce another strong contender into the mix and have Mella pull the same shenanigans on her while Asuka destroys the rest of the roster. That will buy some time for Asuka to challenge the third woman, too.

• Men's Iron Man match should be 60 minutes. Don't know why they don't book it this way. Seth and Dolph have the ability to carry that, too. 30 is not long enough for an Iron Man match.

• Rusev should not be World Champion. Maybe four guys on Smackdown who should have that belt, but Rusev, as much as I like him, is not one of them, with our without Aiden. If he does go full baby, should be WITH Aiden, too, IMO, but my wishes never come true! :D

Overall, the booking on both shows right now has its little strange spots. Why, for example, book AJ vs Shinsuke again last week? Nothing to gain there.

ucsdguy1
July 16th, 2018, 02:07 PM
I read the results.. here are my thoughts on top of yours.

- Ruining Asuka. I agree. It's one thing to give Carmella a short run with the Women's Title because she's amazing on the mic, but it's another thing to make Asuka look stupid in losing to Carmella over and over. It's kind of like what happened with Nakamura when he lost to Jinder and AJ over and over. But at least he has a mid-card title to carry around I suppose. Asuka doesn't have a mid-card title to chase.

- Reigns/Lashley. Yeah I don't give a **** about either one. Did the crowd crap all over this one? I guess having Bobby win is the way to go. At least that way Summerslam won't be ruined when he beats Lesnar. I think at this point, you can't have Reigns/Lesnar yet again. You just can't. Then again, it wouldn't surprise me if they do something stupid like Reigns/Lashley again (like tonight on RAW) and Reigns gets his win back because Vince loves the 50/50 booking. Then Summerslam will be a Triple Threat Match. Now *that* will be terrible.

- Was the crowd disrespectful at the start of the IC Title match? I read that they were like that because of how poorly it was booked. 30 man iron man match and there were 7 falls! wtf? Again, I didn't watch it but how on earth do you have Rollins go up 3-0 and then Ziggler comes back? Were they fresh after every pinfall or something? I don't know.. it just sounded insane to see a "score" that high for a 30 minute match.

- Yep.. no one believed Rusev can win. That's the sad part really. Where does he go from here? I'm sure right now Samoa Joe is next in line to feud with AJ Styles. Does Rusev just fight English? =x

- Glad to see Nakamura finally hold some kind of title on the main roster. Jeff Hardy certainly doesn't need the US Title. Heel Orton is good because he sucks as a face.

- Strowman/Owens feud, I don't get it. From the clips I've watched on RAW... Strowman is the good guy yet he's been bullying Owens because why?

- Thanks for your thoughts on Bliss/Jax. Good to see Mickie James as the real MVP. If only she was booked better too, and not just Alexa's sidekick.
So apparently a couple of the advertisements for Summerslam had it was a triple threat between Lesnar/Reigns/Lashley. However that was a total rumor, in addition to the rumor that Lesnar prefers working triple threat matches so as not to have to do as much.

With the IC match, the crowd was chanting 10.9.8.7.etc as each minute winded down towards the end. Rollins was up 2-0, McIntyre came in and beat the crap out of Rollins, by which the ref called a DQ making it 3-0. The story goes Rollins was so beat up after this Ziggler was able to come back with quick pins. But I agree, too many falls too quickly. If this is the case let Rollins go up 2-0 after the DQ and then have Ziggler come back. Hard time believing even with the attack Ziggler could get pins so quickly. Also agree with LetTigerIn, iron man match should be 60 minutes.

With Strowman, they've kind of turned him into more of a comical monster. He causes havoc just because he can. Owens played the part of the scared bully (very well by the way). Now does Owens come out and say he won the match and deserves all the credit and title shot? Or does he still play scared. Also, I almost completely forgot Strowman was the money in the bank winner for a bit there.

LetTigerIn
July 16th, 2018, 02:35 PM
Another thing about the Iron Man. I don't mind doing some quick early falls, but doing them as submission holds makes more sense. If a submission is locked in well early in an Iron Man, it might make sense to concede a fall just to be fresher later in the match.

ucsdguy1
July 16th, 2018, 05:24 PM
well wwe just announced brock lesnar is confirmed for Raw the day after summerslam, which makes me believe he will not be losing the title at said ppv.

TooCool
July 16th, 2018, 11:37 PM
Another thing about the Iron Man. I don't mind doing some quick early falls, but doing them as submission holds makes more sense. If a submission is locked in well early in an Iron Man, it might make sense to concede a fall just to be fresher later in the match.

Agree completely. Apply a finisher? Quickly tap out so you don't injure your back, leg, whatever the opponent was working on.

Or if you're the heel, why not quickly DQ yourself by destroying the other guy with a weapon? That has always bugged me in No DQ matches or anything of that sort in general. Neither guy will go for a weapon for like 10 minutes.

---------------------------------------------------

And I just read the RAW Results.. Lashley/Reigns next week as we all expected :lol: Time for Roman to get his win back.... freaking Vince.

ucsdguy1
July 17th, 2018, 07:52 AM
So quick Raw thoughts (inclusive of the above)

Yep....Roman/Lashley again. So.....WHAT WAS THE POINT OF THE EXTREME RULES MATCH? I would get the feeling that McIntyre will interfere next week and cause Reigns to lose, thus starting a feud for those two. I also believe Lashley will lose at Summerslam to Lesnar (see comment a few posts ago). I can't honestly believe Lashley will be the guy that will finally dethrone Brock. I also think both Lesnar and McMahon may very well feel there are marketing opportunities to have Lesnar still as WWE champ when he fights in UFC.

Actually I thought both triple threat matches were pretty good, although the Lashley/Rollins/Elias match was a bit rushed probably due to time constraints. Elias is just a throw in guy, and where does Rollins go from here?

At least Strowman reminded us he has the money in the bank contract waiting.

So Sasha's "I love you" speech to Bayley was nice, I guess? I think either (a) Sasha will now turn on Bayley, e.g. she loves her so much she has to destroy her, or (b) Bayley will go full heel after hearing Sasha's speech and recognize she loved a false idol. But I have no idea where they're going as this story has been so disjointed. A friend of mine feels they should just become an unstoppable tag team, and eventually go after Rousey, who calls on Baszler for help, thus starting the 4 horsewomen feud. Just in time for Survivor Series! I'm not quite sure that's where we're going, nor would I trust the wwe writers to even make it happen.

I think Roode was somehow involved in the show, and Nia Jax is now an afterthought.

ucsdguy1
July 18th, 2018, 08:21 AM
I don't know man, I just can't get myself to care about Randy Orton.

So Becky Lynch will probably beat Carmella next week, then lose to her at Summerslam.

The Rusev/Aiden breakup has begun.

Almas/Styles was way better than a Smackdown match should have been. Cien is so good and Vega is the perfect mouthpiece so he doesn't have to talk. He may have tapped out quickly, but if they let him actually wrestle (longer matches at ppv's) he can be a great one. (editor's note: apparently the story was he tapped quickly due to AJ having worked on his leg a good portion of the match, however of which happened during those mini screen side by side commercials. yeah i guess)

TooCool
July 18th, 2018, 10:37 AM
I don't know man, I just can't get myself to care about Randy Orton.

So Becky Lynch will probably beat Carmella next week, then lose to her at Summerslam.

The Rusev/Aiden breakup has begun.

Almas/Styles was way better than a Smackdown match should have been. Cien is so good and Vega is the perfect mouthpiece so he doesn't have to talk. He may have tapped out quickly, but if they let him actually wrestle (longer matches at ppv's) he can be a great one. (editor's note: apparently the story was he tapped quickly due to AJ having worked on his leg a good portion of the match, however of which happened during those mini screen side by side commercials. yeah i guess)

I was really surprised at how quickly they went with Almas/Styles. They put on a good match for sure and if they had 10 more minutes it would have been freaking amazing. Nothing against Almas because we all know how good he can be in his NXT days, but man, AJ Styles sure can work with anyone huh? That's why he's one of the best. Either way though, good showing for Almas despite the loss.

Rusev/English breaking up... noooooooooooooooooo! But I guess it was bound to happen. Anyone noticed how Lana is slowly phasing out her accent? At least that's what I think she's trying to do instead of screwing it up.

Seeds planted for Miz/Bryan mega feud. I swear they better not **** this up.

Sanity was honestly more interesting with crazy Nikki by their side. But good to see Eric Young get a win and I think his finisher is pretty awesome looking even though 85% of it is the opponent pushing up off the mat for him.

Becky/Carmella is fine. I really think Becky should win it back by now. She's gone on too long without the title. But where does Asuka go from here? =x

And finally the Orton thing. Yeah, I don't care much for him either but since he's still with the company and all, I'd rather see heel Orton than boring face Orton. The thing he did with Jeff's ear though was freaking gross. So gross that it was awesome! It definitely didn't feel very PG. :lol: A little strange that he's going after Jeff without explaning himself, and that's fine too. Though I did think it was weird when he looked around and yelled "Where's Shinsuke?" I mean, he was standing there near the ramp for a bit but I guess he left.

TooCool
July 18th, 2018, 02:00 PM
By the way, get your NXT TakeOver tickets for Nov 17 if you haven't yet already.

Pre-Sale code is good until Thursday night. NXTLA https://www.axs.com/events/350659/wwe-nxt-tickets

It looks like nothing ringside and center 100s are available.. =\ I think all those seats was for that bundle they were getting people to buy for all 4 shows. I nabbed 3 tickets (me, Dex, and waterboy) in PR 8 for 67.20 each including the stupid fees. Go grab them if you haven't yet ucsd and LTI!

ucsdguy1
July 18th, 2018, 06:07 PM
By the way, get your NXT TakeOver tickets for Nov 17 if you haven't yet already.

Pre-Sale code is good until Thursday night. NXTLA https://www.axs.com/events/350659/wwe-nxt-tickets

It looks like nothing ringside and center 100s are available.. =\ I think all those seats was for that bundle they were getting people to buy for all 4 shows. I nabbed 3 tickets (me, Dex, and waterboy) in PR 8 for 67.20 each including the stupid fees. Go grab them if you haven't yet ucsd and LTI!
edit: THE @$*(&)#%&*(^@Q)&*@#)^. I bought my wife tickets to see some play Dear Evan Hansen at the pantages. I just looked and it's Nov 17th. the sam hell @#*(&)%#. I didn't think that one through. She just told me I'm welcome to get survivor series tickets for the next night.

ucsdguy1
July 19th, 2018, 09:25 AM
ahaha I love my wife! I just got permission to attend Takeover.

Just looked at seats and was able to get a pair in 104 row 6 for $83.20 each after fees. They had RSR 5 row 3 on the floor, but that was $110/each and I didn't want to go that high if i wasn't in the FLR section actually by ringside. Heck even $83 is a lot but I'll just have to keep myself from buying that Dakota Kai shirt.


PS that women's triple threat match was all kinds of fun on nxt this week. Kairi Sane has zero shot to beat Baszler at the upcoming Takeover. I'm also super selfish in hoping they don't call up Nikki Cross until after November :)

TooCool
July 19th, 2018, 01:28 PM
ahaha I love my wife! I just got permission to attend Takeover.

Just looked at seats and was able to get a pair in 104 row 6 for $83.20 each after fees. They had RSR 5 row 3 on the floor, but that was $110/each and I didn't want to go that high if i wasn't in the FLR section actually by ringside. Heck even $83 is a lot but I'll just have to keep myself from buying that Dakota Kai shirt.


PS that women's triple threat match was all kinds of fun on nxt this week. Kairi Sane has zero shot to beat Baszler at the upcoming Takeover. I'm also super selfish in hoping they don't call up Nikki Cross until after November :)

104 row 6 is good! Good thing you didn't go for RSR because I think that's behind the floor peeps and it's flat anyway so you can't see ****.

Many many years ago, I went to a double taping of RAW and Smackdown. I thought I had amazing seats.. floor seats behind the announce table. Row 11 or something. With all the signs and whatnot, I couldn't see anything. Had to watch the titantron all night. At least in section 104, it's elevated so that's good.

ucsdguy1
July 19th, 2018, 01:58 PM
104 row 6 is good! Good thing you didn't go for RSR because I think that's behind the floor peeps and it's flat anyway so you can't see ****.

Many many years ago, I went to a double taping of RAW and Smackdown. I thought I had amazing seats.. floor seats behind the announce table. Row 11 or something. With all the signs and whatnot, I couldn't see anything. Had to watch the titantron all night. At least in section 104, it's elevated so that's good.
This takes me back years ago to Bash at the Beach in San Diego [Rodman/Hogan vs. DDP/Karl Malone]. We had seats on the floor, probably about 20 rows back. And like you said, we could not see ****. We kept running into the aisle to get a better view (the guys sitting on the aisle were not amused). I think half the people ended up standing on their chairs for the final match. Still a good time though :)

ucsdguy1
July 25th, 2018, 08:31 AM
Quick notes - I was upset at first that Rusev was going to be yet again served up, this time to Almas. That being said, the segment worked out well. Rusev lost but only in the sense that it furthered the breakup between he and Aiden. Almas got another quality win. The match wasn't half bad given the short time frame. The crowd was 100% behind Rusev (dare I say, face?) These guys should fight again at Summerslam in a longer match (probably won't happen), in which Aiden could cost Rusev the match and break the final straw.

Also please just give Becky Lynch the women's title. Carmella is so boring. That being said, how are the wwe writers going to let Lynch win a contest to get the title shot then win again at Summerslam? Probably won't happen. And why would Lynch need to beat Carmella just to earn a title shot????

TooCool
July 25th, 2018, 01:53 PM
Quick notes - I was upset at first that Rusev was going to be yet again served up, this time to Almas. That being said, the segment worked out well. Rusev lost but only in the sense that it furthered the breakup between he and Aiden. Almas got another quality win. The match wasn't half bad given the short time frame. The crowd was 100% behind Rusev (dare I say, face?) These guys should fight again at Summerslam in a longer match (probably won't happen), in which Aiden could cost Rusev the match and break the final straw.

Also please just give Becky Lynch the women's title. Carmella is so boring. That being said, how are the wwe writers going to let Lynch win a contest to get the title shot then win again at Summerslam? Probably won't happen. And why would Lynch need to beat Carmella just to earn a title shot????

According to the dirt sheets, the WWE officials are supposedly really impressed with Almas when he fought AJ Styles. It's like... no ****! Do none of you guys watch NXT? Your own product? That's just proof that they are clueless as to what's going on and why they botch so many of these call ups.

I'm still sad they're breaking up Aiden with Rusev. Because like I mentioned before, once Rusev is done with Aiden, he's going to be stuck in catering with Tye Dillinger, Zack Ryder, Mike Bennett, Chad Gable, etc. And holy crap, I just realized that Shelton Benjamin hasn't been used forever either.

AJ Styles vs Samoa Joe is going to be great. A little odd that they used that segment to "fire" Ellsworth though. But I did like that segment backstage with Joe and Paige. He can really speak on the mic so when he said that attack was phenomenal, that was cool.

I hear ya, I'm not a fan of Becky having to beat Carmella cleanly only to get a title match. But WWE has been doing this for years now. It's their "lazy booking" style really. Too many champs lose these non-title matches. It makes the champs look bad.

And last of all.. it's cool that they'll have an All Women PPV. But f***... they're going to mention this 20 times per show now huh? It's like the WWE Network and $9.99 all over again.

ucsdguy1
July 25th, 2018, 04:17 PM
According to the dirt sheets, the WWE officials are supposedly really impressed with Almas when he fought AJ Styles. It's like... no ****! Do none of you guys watch NXT? Your own product? That's just proof that they are clueless as to what's going on and why they botch so many of these call ups.

I'm still sad they're breaking up Aiden with Rusev. Because like I mentioned before, once Rusev is done with Aiden, he's going to be stuck in catering with Tye Dillinger, Zack Ryder, Mike Bennett, Chad Gable, etc. And holy crap, I just realized that Shelton Benjamin hasn't been used forever either.

AJ Styles vs Samoa Joe is going to be great. A little odd that they used that segment to "fire" Ellsworth though. But I did like that segment backstage with Joe and Paige. He can really speak on the mic so when he said that attack was phenomenal, that was cool.

I hear ya, I'm not a fan of Becky having to beat Carmella cleanly only to get a title match. But WWE has been doing this for years now. It's their "lazy booking" style really. Too many champs lose these non-title matches. It makes the champs look bad.

And last of all.. it's cool that they'll have an All Women PPV. But f***... they're going to mention this 20 times per show now huh? It's like the WWE Network and $9.99 all over again.
Supposedly impressed with Almas?? Geezus. Where is HHH in all this? Does he not have input or the capability to tell them how good Almas is? Vega is also a perfect mouthpiece that is going to annoy the crap out of everyone (in a good heel way).

I figured the women's ppv mentions were going to be a shock and awe tactic at least this week. I imagine it will die down, but this was mostly all about them tooting their own horns once the announcement was made. Trish Stratus apparently will be coming back for the ppv according to some sheets I read. I wouldn't mind Lita either. But seriously folks let's bring back Francine.

Back to Asuke, and how they've completely destroyed her character. Imagine if she never fought Charlotte and went undefeated this whole time. She could then finally lose to Charlotte or Rousey at the all women's pay per view??? If they didn't want to wait until Wrestlemania of course. But nay, it makes too much sense.

TooCool
July 26th, 2018, 10:31 AM
How about NXT last night? (I read the results.)

ucsdguy1
July 27th, 2018, 08:59 AM
How about NXT last night? (I read the results.)
I didn't get to post, but DAMN that Black/Ciampa match. I honestly don't get why they had that take place at the NXT show. That could've easily been Takeover-worthy.

And I am super pumped for Ricochet/Bay Bay

Oh and War Machine then Seven/Bate sneaking up behind Undisputed sets up nicely for war games :)

Cross Traffic
July 29th, 2018, 11:54 AM
Nikolai Volkov dead at 70, Brian Christopher dead at 46 from hanging, and Brickhouse Brown dead at 58 all within the past 24 hours.

RIP.

mitchrock
July 29th, 2018, 04:53 PM
Nikolai Volkov dead at 70, Brian Christopher dead at 46 from hanging, and Brickhouse Brown dead at 58 all within the past 24 hours.

RIP.

Holy ****! Knew about Volkov. Hadn't heard about the other two.

King Ludwig
July 29th, 2018, 07:11 PM
Nikolai Volkov dead at 70, Brian Christopher dead at 46 from hanging, and Brickhouse Brown dead at 58 all within the past 24 hours.

RIP.

Just had to love the Russian heel at the time...one of the first heels (other than Rowdy Roddy Piper) that I actively cheered for during my childhood...

His great singing talents will be missed especially...even though it was the wrong anthem...

TooCool
July 30th, 2018, 10:01 AM
Damn.. I'm bummed about the deaths.

Brian 'Grand Master Sexay' Christopher's death hit me pretty hard yesterday. Especially since he was one half of my favorite Tag Team of all time. They were just goofy dudes being idiots and dicks and growing up watching it... I thought they were freaking cool. Then they had the whole bit later with Rikishi (when they became faces) where they danced and all that good stuff. But yeah... they were the sole reason for my name being TooCool. From my AOL Instant Messenger Screen name, to Message Board names, my e-mail, and now my Gamer Tags. I couldn't think of anything else but it was always TC.

Obviously we knew he had addiction problems all his life. It's such a shame that he couldn't overcome it.

As for Nikolai Volkoff.. that sucks too. At least he got to 70 right? A little bit before my time but I appreciated what he did for the business.

And finally Brickhouse Brown... can't say I knew who he was. Either way, he's part of the wrestling family so it sucks to hear... RIP to all of them.

ucsdguy1
July 31st, 2018, 08:27 AM
Quick raw thoughts:

- I really don't care about Lesnar, at all. I mean at least they got the crowd chanting "we want roman"? I'll say let Reigns beat him and be done with it, however I have this feeling they really want him as the wwe champ going into a ufc fight for marketing purposes. I don't think if he's going to stay around having him leave Heyman is the right call, so I'll consider that a nice swan song for his way out.

- I am slowly getting more confident they're going to have Owens find a way to beat Strowman and take his money in the bank honors.

ucsdguy1
August 1st, 2018, 08:31 AM
Quick Smackdown thoughts:

- What a nice F you to Becky Lynch! Did Charlotte need to be added to the Summerslam title match that fast? Do we not now think Carmella will 99.9% chance keep the title as Charlotte/Lynch will cancel each other out (especially after the 100 "they're best friends" mentions). They had the perfect build up for Lynch to work her way up on her own and earn that title. All I can think of is based on the look of dismay on Lynch's face, this is the start of a heel turn for her (I hope not).

- The slow drive of the Rusev story is okay for now. But if Vega had Almas at ringside, why the hell wouldn't Rusev come out with Lana?

TooCool
August 1st, 2018, 04:01 PM
Quick Smackdown thoughts:

- What a nice F you to Becky Lynch! Did Charlotte need to be added to the Summerslam title match that fast? Do we not now think Carmella will 99.9% chance keep the title as Charlotte/Lynch will cancel each other out (especially after the 100 "they're best friends" mentions). They had the perfect build up for Lynch to work her way up on her own and earn that title. All I can think of is based on the look of dismay on Lynch's face, this is the start of a heel turn for her (I hope not).

- The slow drive of the Rusev story is okay for now. But if Vega had Almas at ringside, why the hell wouldn't Rusev come out with Lana?

I think we're definitely getting Charlotte/Becky at the Evolution PPV. And I think a heel turn for Becky could be good. Charlotte has shown she can be a good heel, maybe Becky can too.

Rusev wasn't out there with Lana because last week he said something along the lines of "Maybe the two of you should think about what's best for Rusev day" or something along the lines. He wasn't fully blaming Aiden as he blamed Lana too.

And that Miz/Daniel promo was pretty awesome. Sucks that they waited this long since Daniel has been cleared and Miz got put back on Smackdown due to the Superstar shake up, but better late than never. Miz played the chicken**** heel perfectly by being backstage with 2 body guards and not accepting Daniel's challenge. Daniel Bryan's contract is coming up (and I think everyone knows he'll re-sign). But they could play it off where Miz will only accept the match on the condition that if he wins, Daniel Bryan is gone from WWE.

ucsdguy1
August 7th, 2018, 09:07 AM
yup


Brock Lesnar reportedly met with Vince McMahon last Monday to discuss him staying with the WWE past SummerSlam. Don't be surprised if Lesnar defeats Reigns again at SummerSlam, and his Universal title reign continues into his potential UFC run.

Although I find it hard to believe they'd let Reigns go again without actually winning.

TooCool
August 7th, 2018, 12:20 PM
yup



Although I find it hard to believe they'd let Reigns go again without actually winning.

I think at this point Vince really doesn't care if Roman has to lose again.. because he will always be next in line no matter what.

Or I guess just let Roman win it, then have him drop it immediately the next night on RAW or at that WWE PPV in Australia. In the long run, Vince wants to see Brock carry the Universal Title to the UFC thing and vice versa I suppose.

ucsdguy1
August 8th, 2018, 08:15 AM
So I kind of like what they're doing with Rusev/Lana/Aiden. Not necessarily that TooCool loves the breakup with Aiden, but they're slowly drawing it out. I loved Rusev's "okay we forgive you!" turned to utter anger after the match. And using that storyline to get cheap wins for Vega/Almas is good for the two of them as well.

Good promo from Styles, tying in the fact that Joe knows his family (although nothing will beat Heyman's promo of the year monday night). Could've done more on the Miz side to get him to agree to a match, rather than just "my people negotiation with smackdown"

I still can't get myself to care about Randy Orton at all. I definitely care that Nakamura understands "metaphors". His sarcasm while barely speaking English is fantastic.

Get on the Lynch/Charlotte BFF train, because that should last about another 2 weeks.

TooCool
August 8th, 2018, 09:41 AM
So I kind of like what they're doing with Rusev/Lana/Aiden. Not necessarily that TooCool loves the breakup with Aiden, but they're slowly drawing it out. I loved Rusev's "okay we forgive you!" turned to utter anger after the match. And using that storyline to get cheap wins for Vega/Almas is good for the two of them as well.

Good promo from Styles, tying in the fact that Joe knows his family (although nothing will beat Heyman's promo of the year monday night). Could've done more on the Miz side to get him to agree to a match, rather than just "my people negotiation with smackdown"

I still can't get myself to care about Randy Orton at all. I definitely care that Nakamura understands "metaphors". His sarcasm while barely speaking English is fantastic.

Get on the Lynch/Charlotte BFF train, because that should last about another 2 weeks.

Smackdown was awesome last night.

I agree with ya, at least they're slow drawing out the breakup. Although I did find it funny that Rusev had to talk to Lana about "last week". Because it's like.. yeah, you guys are married but you won't talk about what happened on Smackdown until the week after? :lol: Once Rusev and Lana accepted Aiden's apology I was like, "Great.. now don't go out to the ring! Don't you dare do it!"

I too, enjoyed the AJ Styles promo. It's silly that Tom Phillips have to promote the match as "The first time these two will battle EVER... in WWE." But at least they're pretending the fans are dumb by saying they've never faced each other ever. I think at Summerslam, they definitely need 20-25 minutes. Don't do the same "dream match" thing with Styles/Nakamura where it got drawn out with crappy finishes. Let this one go to war quickly.

I couldn't believe that the writers actually poked fun at themselves during the Renee Young interview with R-Truth, Tye Dillinger, and Shinsuke Nakamura. Truth said he knew how to get a shot at the US Title and that was to pin Carmella.

Becky and Charlotte taking jabs at Bayley and Sasha almost makes me think that those two teams will fight against each other for the Women's Tag Titles at Evolution. It'll definitely be possible if Carmella retains at Summerslam. But if Carmella doesn't retain, then Becky vs Charlotte has to be for the Smackdown Women's Title. I also feel that Carmella isn't going to get pinned so she can complain about beating Charlotte and Asuka twice and didn't get pinned to lose the title.

Then finally we got New Day vs Bar. I also liked how they had the Bludgeon Brothers beat 3 jobbers real quick too, just to remind people how scary they are. I think sometimes they go too long without wrestling. But New Day vs Bar! WWE *is* capable of booking an awesome 20+ minute tag match like that. I really wish they did that with The Revival, American Alpha, Authors of Pain, Ascension, etc.. but what can ya do? It was really strange (and also cool) to see Big E pull a Super Cena/Reigns like that. I was pleasantly surprised that they booked him to be so powerful.

ucsdguy1
August 10th, 2018, 08:25 AM
Hey by the way, happy rusev day to everyone on this thread

TooCool
August 10th, 2018, 08:31 AM
Hey by the way, happy rusev day to everyone on this thread

Happy Rusev Day brother! And Lana Day too because why not?

ucsdguy1
August 10th, 2018, 08:41 AM
Also - title match at Takeover changed to a Last Man Standing match between Ciampa and Gargano. Black has apparently been dealing with an injury, and looks like they're playing into it with a "whodunnit" theme:

https://www.cagesideseats.com/wwe/2018/8/9/17671886/new-video-surfaces-aleister-black-parking-lot-attack-wwe-nxt

I would find it quite funny if it was Baszler who did it.

TooCool
August 10th, 2018, 09:55 AM
Also - title match at Takeover changed to a Last Man Standing match between Ciampa and Gargano. Black has apparently been dealing with an injury, and looks like they're playing into it with a "whodunnit" theme:

https://www.cagesideseats.com/wwe/2018/8/9/17671886/new-video-surfaces-aleister-black-parking-lot-attack-wwe-nxt

I would find it quite funny if it was Baszler who did it.

Damn... does Ciampa retain over Gargano? Or do they keep the feud going? Unsanctioned match... Street fight... Last Man Standing. Can they please fight each other when we're all there for War Games??

ucsdguy1
August 10th, 2018, 10:22 AM
Damn... does Ciampa retain over Gargano? Or do they keep the feud going? Unsanctioned match... Street fight... Last Man Standing. Can they please fight each other when we're all there for War Games??
I can't imagine they let Ciampa lose the title this quickly. Double count out where neither can get up. That will set up one more match at wargames. Maybe a steel cage match or a 60 minute iron man match..... :)

ucsdguy1
August 13th, 2018, 08:32 AM
RIP Anvil

https://www.wwe.com/f/styles/talent_champion_xl/public/all/2018/08/Jim_Neidhart_1920x1080--469e5af59cb9172c3c369997432c8d6f.jpg

ucsdguy1
August 14th, 2018, 09:01 AM
and yup Rusev on the summerslam kickoff show

Apparently he took it in stride:



Rusev

@RusevBUL
I’m honored to share the #SummerSlam kickoff show with the cruiser weight title !

LetTigerIn
August 15th, 2018, 01:25 PM
and yup Rusev on the summerslam kickoff show

Apparently he took it in stride:


I would not mind seeing Rusev insert himself into the Cruiserweight match, beat the hell out of everyone, steal the belt, and declare himself the Cruiserweight champion.

ucsdguy1
August 16th, 2018, 02:27 PM
Okay let's have at it. Start with NXT Takeover predictions:

Gargano/Ciampa (Last Man Standing) - I'm still going with my prediction of a no one beats the 10 count. This one should be wild, but they can probably find a way to squeeze it a bit longer and/or get Black involved again (hint hint Takeover Staples Center). I also don't think Ciampa loses the title this quickly. This should be a wild one, yet again. Note - it would be kind of funny if Gargano wins and turns out to be the one who attacked Black, but that would somewhat minimize the impact of Ciampa. I say it turns out to be someone unrelated to get Black in a separate feud.


Bay Bay/Ricochet - I think Cole keeps his momentum going, and possibly wins with outside intereference help. But this has potential to be amazing.

Velveteen Dream/EC3 - I figure EC3 needs some kind of momentum. EC3 got the leg up on the final NXT show last night, but Dream seems to be in the business of making others have fantastic matches and I think he'll put EC3 over here. Part of me wants Dream to be called up, but most of me says nope he'll just get lost in the shuffle. I'm excited about any match he's in.

Undisputed/Mustache Mountain - judging from Tyler Bate winning the singles match last night, I'm going to say Undisputed keeps momentum and retains. This does have potential to be a mind melting match.

Baszler/Sane - no way Baszler loses this one. May be the more methodical slow paced match with her wearing down Sane, give everyone a breather for the night. Sane will put on a good show but come up short.

The only thing I'm not excited for on this show is the fact that Pete Dunne doesn't have a match.

TooCool
August 16th, 2018, 05:46 PM
Okay let's have at it. Start with NXT Takeover predictions:

Gargano/Ciampa (Last Man Standing) - I'm still going with my prediction of a no one beats the 10 count. This one should be wild, but they can probably find a way to squeeze it a bit longer and/or get Black involved again (hint hint Takeover Staples Center). I also don't think Ciampa loses the title this quickly. This should be a wild one, yet again. Note - it would be kind of funny if Gargano wins and turns out to be the one who attacked Black, but that would somewhat minimize the impact of Ciampa. I say it turns out to be someone unrelated to get Black in a separate feud.


Bay Bay/Ricochet - I think Cole keeps his momentum going, and possibly wins with outside intereference help. But this has potential to be amazing.

Velveteen Dream/EC3 - I figure EC3 needs some kind of momentum. EC3 got the leg up on the final NXT show last night, but Dream seems to be in the business of making others have fantastic matches and I think he'll put EC3 over here. Part of me wants Dream to be called up, but most of me says nope he'll just get lost in the shuffle. I'm excited about any match he's in.

Undisputed/Mustache Mountain - judging from Tyler Bate winning the singles match last night, I'm going to say Undisputed keeps momentum and retains. This does have potential to be a mind melting match.

Baszler/Sane - no way Baszler loses this one. May be the more methodical slow paced match with her wearing down Sane, give everyone a breather for the night. Sane will put on a good show but come up short.

The only thing I'm not excited for on this show is the fact that Pete Dunne doesn't have a match.

Thanks for your thoughts. I'm not caught up with NXT at all (shame on me) but I do plan to re-activate my WWE Subscription tomorrow (or Saturday). After all, they "want me back" and have been spamming my email to resub and get one month free again. But thanks to your posts and I'm hoping the video packages they air before the matches will get me caught up, more or less.

As for Pete Dunne, he does technically have one. I read that he's defending it before the PPV, for the next NXT episode.

Can you catch me up on what happened to TM61, Street Profits, and your boys Heavy Machinery? Any chance they'll be in a tag team title match for TakeOver Los Angeles?

ucsdguy1
August 16th, 2018, 05:56 PM
Thanks for your thoughts. I'm not caught up with NXT at all (shame on me) but I do plan to re-activate my WWE Subscription tomorrow (or Saturday). After all, they "want me back" and have been spamming my email to resub and get one month free again. But thanks to your posts and I'm hoping the video packages they air before the matches will get me caught up, more or less.

As for Pete Dunne, he does technically have one. I read that he's defending it before the PPV, for the next NXT episode.

Can you catch me up on what happened to TM61, Street Profits, and your boys Heavy Machinery? Any chance they'll be in a tag team title match for TakeOver Los Angeles?
Street Profits beat TM61 in a match on the show last night. It was pretty funny, TM61 had a rollup in which they tried to pull the tights, only to have SP reverse it into another rollover and pull the tights to get the win. SP then jumped into the crowd and rubbed some dudes heads for fun. Heavy Machinery has had some matches here and there but no real push of any kind. Not even sure what the plan is going forward for any of them. TM61 had this major heel turn then just started losing matches. SP maybe get pushed but they're nowhere close in my mind to competing for titles. My hunch - War Machine (who has been pushed) is next in line for the tag title match.

ucsdguy1
August 17th, 2018, 07:48 AM
Summerslam predictions:

Reigns/Lesnar - the smart money is on Reigns winning. But I'll stick with the ongoing feeling I've had, Vince will swerve again and Lesnar retains. Just too hard to pass up having Lesnar be wwe champion while he fights in UFC.

Styles/Samoa Joe - I can't decide on this one. It might finally be time for Styles to lose and enter some non-title feuds. Joe is the perfect heel champ that can do this. But Styles is such a good champion it's hard to see him lose the belt. I'm going to say Styles wins and Joe once again doesn't get over the hump.

Rousey/Bliss - in theory there's no way Bliss should have any chance. I said the same thing with Jax but they let Bliss have plenty of offense. Rousey doesn't need the title yet, she can win it at Summerslam. Bliss will find some way to cheat and win or get disqualified (and beaten up thereafter), and keep the title.

Carmella/Lynch/Charlotte - Lynch and Charlotte will cancel each other out, and Carmella retains.

Strowman/Owens - they've been teasing it for weeks. Owens will find a way to claim the briefcase. wwe will feel Strowman doesn't need it and will run rampant anyway. Owens will have ample opportunity to tease his cash in.

Daniel Bryan/The Miz - Too much promo going into the Miz' new reality show. He'll find a way to win and use that to promote the show 10,000 more times on the next few Smackdowns, before an inevitable rematch. This has the Gargano/Ciampa type feeling that will lead to 2 or 3 more rematches. Bryan can get his win down the road.

Ziggler/Rollins - lots of rumors heating up on whether Ambrose will turn on Rollins. Unsure on that, but too much of a push going with Ziggler and McIntyre. Not time for McIntyre to turn on him yet. Ziggler retains.

Nakamura/Hardy - Nakamura needs to win. His promos are getting more funny every day, and he's so entertaining. Hard can go continue a feud with Orton (unless Orton gets suspended/fired after the "investigation" concludes). Also a write wrote this about the match I saw on the nets that made me lol: "Seriously, what does this guy have against Jeff Hardy’s balls? Shinsuke has crushed them. Shinsuke has allowed Randy Orton to crush them. Shinsuke crushed them AGAIN. I was hoping once he moved on from Aj, Nakamura could have a really feud with someone like Rusev or Daniel Bryan or even Tye Dillinger. But no, here we are, looking at our 7.000th Hardy/Nakamura match in 60 days that will more than likely have a testicle-related finish."

Bludgeon Brothers/New Day - I find myself not caring much about this match. If there's any team that can beat the brothers I suppose it's the new day, but something just seems missing in this one. Not enough 1 on 1 time between the teams. Also ready for some new tag team blood. (they've already sort of ruined Sanity)

B Team/Revival - don't care. B Team will probably retain.

Balor/Corbin - also hate to say, I don't really care. So, out of left field let's go with Corbin wins, and after Strowman loses his briefcase Balor/Strowman go after and claim the tag team championship, becoming the new Bryan/Kane?

Rusev/Lana v Almas/Vega - I mean is it almost 99.9% guaranteed Aiden again gets involved causing Rusev/Lana to lose?

Alexander/Gulak - probably will be entertaining enough, but I forgot this was even a thing.

And reading the above, this could be another 7 hour pay per view.

LetTigerIn
August 17th, 2018, 10:52 AM
Baszler costs Ronda the match and starts a Horsewoman vs Horsewoman feud. They make up before WM, or they don't. Either way, keep screwing Ronda over until Mania.

Speaking of which, under the current business model, should they reconsider the annual PPV structure? I'm definitely the wrong guy to ask about this, but I'm also a guy who loves to take chances. Doesn't seem very Vince-like to change anything radically, though. Not to say one way or the other is right or wrong, but it's definitely not how Vince has built this empire.

TooCool
August 18th, 2018, 07:07 PM
Wow! Absolutely loved that PPV of TakeOver. Then again, should I really be surprised??

NXT Tag Title Match - Just a great all around match. Back and forth with lots of near falls. Kyle O'Reilly makes for a good rag doll for the way he sells the moves. Cool to see War Raiders like you mentioned ucsd. They're big and I immediately thought that they could be a good team to take on the Authors of Pain or Bludgeon Brothers.

EC3 vs Velveteen Dream - This was a decent match but out of the 5 matches I'd have to say it was also the weakest match of the card. Dream's tights read "Call me up Vince".. which is not cool because his character is totally getting destroyed on the main roster. This match was a hard hitting match but maybe the pacing was too slow for me to fully enjoy it. I kept waiting for them to hit another gear and they didn't. Overall, it's nice to see Dream finally get a TakeOver win though.. even if its at the expense of EC3.

North American Title Match - Loved this battle. It just made me think that HHH is cool with Indy style wrestling mixed with WWE logic and that works for me. These two put on a clinic and that 630 splash is something else. If you really think about it.. it's dangerous to try to counter something like that mainly because you don't want to end up injuring Ricochet. Good to see the title change hands, plus Adam Cole lost clean too.

NXT Women's Title Match - I'll give it Shayna Baszler. She has improved a lot since I last saw her wrestle a match 4-5 months ago. Obviously it's no secret that I'm not a fan of MMA/UFC stuff they force down on us, but Shayna looked pretty solid. It's also a little weird for them to show Ronda at ringside cheering on a mega heel in Baszler. I'm a Kairi Sane fan though and it was awesome seeing her win the title. Very happy for her.

NXT Title Match - Well, this one had everything you can ask for. At what point do they just pull out a gun on each other? :lol: Nigel might have read the script too soon when he conveniently said "No one at ringside is safe" and then boom, super kick from Gargano to a plant. I did laugh though when Ciampa threw everything to cover Gargano, including the dude that Gargano killed. While I love the beating these two give one another I think they may have over thunk the finish. The whole bit with Gargano winning the title had he just let the ref count to 10, but he refused to accept Ciampa's apology which end up costing himself the match. The handcuff placement was too predictable though where Ciampa can easily just stand up as well.

Where does Gargano go from here? Do you keep him away from NXT and just have him show up at the Royal Rumble or something as a call up?

TooCool
August 19th, 2018, 12:56 PM
Summerslam predictions:

And reading the above, this could be another 7 hour pay per view.

Oh it definitely will be over 7 hours because it's one of the Big 4 PPVs.

Here are my predictions real quick.

Reigns/Lesnar - While I agree with you that Vince might keep Lesnar as a champ just because he can take the Universal Title with him to UFC to show it off, I think Reigns will take it here. I think RAW has gone on far too long without a full-time champ. I wouldn't be surprised at all though to see Brock win the title back in the Australia Super Show PPV thing. But for now, Reigns will take it (or even have Braun win it).

Styles/Samoa Joe - I feel like Joe needs to win it badly but I have a feeling he won't. Not with AJ Styles as the cover boy of the WWE 2K19 video game that is coming up in like 2 months. They might just book this the same way as Styles/Nakamura where Shinsuke kept losing. I hope they get 20+ minutes though because it could be a strong match.

Rousey/Bliss - Rousey is taking the RAW Women's Title because Summerslam is a mainstream PPV. This is WWE's chance to be all over the tabloids, which Vince loves. And I know as of this post, they already announced Alexa Bliss vs Trish Stratus at the Evolution PPV. (Pretty stupid of them to announce it already when the PPV is still 9 weeks away.) But I think at least 1 Women's Title will change hands tonight and it will be this one because Carmella ain't losing.

Carmella/Lynch/Charlotte - I agree 100% with what you say. I think they'll book it so that Becky will come close to winning multiple times only for Charlotte to stop her. Eventually Becky will get frustrated or something, make a mistake and Carmella will cover Becky to retain. Then Becky turns heel and sets up a feud with Charlotte.

Strowman/Owens - Kevin's not winning this one. I read the results on RAW where Strowman stupidly lost by DQ and Countout just to set up the concept of this match. But since we've "seen that" already, Strowman will just win here. Realistically speaking, if they were smart at booking things.. they could have Jinder attack KO on purpose to give him the DQ win. But that would just make too much sense so it won't happen.

Daniel Bryan/The Miz - I'm a little disappointed at how they dropped the ball on this feud in terms of how long it took them to set this up since Daniel Bryan returned and the fact that Miz has been on Smackdown for months now since the super star shakeup. Then leading up to the PPV, the majority of it were just promos. But still, we know the history between these two so that should be fun. Like you said, there's no reason for Daniel Bryan to win here. He'll get it down the road. We need the Miz to cheat and win, so he can brag about it some more.

Ziggler/Rollins - Dean Ambrose returning just to be in Seth's corner is silly. I definitely smell a heel turn as I'm sure most people do as well. At least that way they can set up Rollins vs Ambrose because we don't need to see Rollins vs Ziggler anymore..

Nakamura/Hardy - No way Nakamura loses here. I'm surprised they didn't include Orton in this match but you know he'll get involved either way.

Bludgeon Brothers/New Day - While we know how great of a match The New Day, Usos, and Bar can put up.. I don't quite understand how New Day are suddenly sort of capable of winning again. Remember it wasn't long ago that the Bludgeon Brothers murdered New Day and Usos with ease. So going by that logic, The New Day doesn't stand a chance here. I thought Daniel Bryan and Kane could have been a "cheap way out" to get the titles off of the Bludgeon Brothers since Kane is a monster and all. But I don't know here. They did book Big E really well recently so maybe he goes crazy here.

B Team/Revival - It's a shame what they've done to The Revival. Unreal. Since this match is on the Pre-Show, I highly doubt the titles will change hands. B Team will get "lucky" and win.

Balor/Corbin - Balor needs the win badly and he also needs to move on from Corbin badly. What's sad is how badly they've book Balor that he doesn't have any story line that will lead him to his Demon form for the PPVs like he did in NXT.

Rusev/Lana v Almas/Vega - Yep, I just don't see Almas losing a PPV match. Unfortunately Vince sees nothing in Rusev so he'll definitely lose here. I'm sure Lana takes the fall anyway to "protect" Rusev but a loss is a loss. I think Aiden definitely turns heel here. Maybe he'll come out pretending to help, only that he doesn't and helps Alams/Vega instead.

Alexander/Gulak - I heard 205 Live has been really good recently so it's sad that no matter what they do, they get put on the Pre-Show. If it were up to me, I'd give Gulak the Cruiserweight Title. He's way better on the mic than Alexander.

ucsdguy1
August 19th, 2018, 01:45 PM
Wow! Absolutely loved that PPV of TakeOver. Then again, should I really be surprised??


NXT Tag Title Match - Just a great all around match. Back and forth with lots of near falls. Kyle O'Reilly makes for a good rag doll for the way he sells the moves. Cool to see War Raiders like you mentioned ucsd. They're big and I immediately thought that they could be a good team to take on the Authors of Pain or Bludgeon Brothers.
I thought Seven could've held that white towel just a bit longer wondering whether to throw it in again before throwing it into the crowd for a bit of extra drama. But can't fault anyone on this match, it was tons of fun. So it'll be War Raiders vs. Undisputed at Takeover LA.


EC3 vs Velveteen Dream - This was a decent match but out of the 5 matches I'd have to say it was also the weakest match of the card. Dream's tights read "Call me up Vince".. which is not cool because his character is totally getting destroyed on the main roster. This match was a hard hitting match but maybe the pacing was too slow for me to fully enjoy it. I kept waiting for them to hit another gear and they didn't. Overall, it's nice to see Dream finally get a TakeOver win though.. even if its at the expense of EC3.
Agreed this was a good match, but not up to the standard that Velveteen has set. I blame EC3. I don't know why but he just doesn't do it for me yet. Strangely enough though he is a big name to come to NXT and I'm surprised they'd have him lose cleanly so quickly. Doesn't do much for his credibility. I got a kick out of Velveteen's pants, but also immediately thought please don't call him up. He's going to immediately become Tyler Breeze.


North American Title Match - Loved this battle. It just made me think that HHH is cool with Indy style wrestling mixed with WWE logic and that works for me. These two put on a clinic and that 630 splash is something else. If you really think about it.. it's dangerous to try to counter something like that mainly because you don't want to end up injuring Ricochet. Good to see the title change hands, plus Adam Cole lost clean too.

Yeah this match makes you realize NXT is wwe's answer to ROH/New Japan. Those two final moves from Ricochet - was that a reverse hurricanrana to the outside into the 630? holy ****. Cole has enough to charisma to shake this off (and probably come up with a cheap excuse why he lost a la nakamura).


NXT Women's Title Match - I'll give it Shayna Baszler. She has improved a lot since I last saw her wrestle a match 4-5 months ago. Obviously it's no secret that I'm not a fan of MMA/UFC stuff they force down on us, but Shayna looked pretty solid. It's also a little weird for them to show Ronda at ringside cheering on a mega heel in Baszler. I'm a Kairi Sane fan though and it was awesome seeing her win the title. Very happy for her.
Agreed completely on Baszler. She looked much better here. Got some time on the turnbuckle and took some good bumps (Sane's frogsplah to the outside or elbow on the side apron). And the way she twisted Sane’s ankle? Ouch. Sane is pretty cool but I don't think she stands out at all on the top level. Hell if Asuke gets lost in the shuffle why wouldn't she? And very happy for Sane, but I'm very surprised they had Baszler drop the belt already. She seemed like one who could keep the title for a really long time as seemingly unbeatable until it finally happened.


NXT Title Match - Well, this one had everything you can ask for. At what point do they just pull out a gun on each other? :lol: Nigel might have read the script too soon when he conveniently said "No one at ringside is safe" and then boom, super kick from Gargano to a plant. I did laugh though when Ciampa threw everything to cover Gargano, including the dude that Gargano killed. While I love the beating these two give one another I think they may have over thunk the finish. The whole bit with Gargano winning the title had he just let the ref count to 10, but he refused to accept Ciampa's apology which end up costing himself the match. The handcuff placement was too predictable though where Ciampa can easily just stand up as well.

Where does Gargano go from here? Do you keep him away from NXT and just have him show up at the Royal Rumble or something as a call up?
Yep this is about what everyone expected. That super kick to the plant was hilarious, that guy took it like a champ. I also thought one of the ways someone could win was to pile a whole bunch of stuff on top of their opponent. I found it funny two that a couple of the chairs Ciampa threw flew right by Gargano. As soon as Gargano handcuffed Ciampa I was like wait he can just stand up on the side of that stage. Sure enough there we go. I have no idea what they do with Gargano from here. He's just as much done with the Ciampa feud. I suppose you can say he's the one who attacked Black, but that would only work if he beat Ciampa.

Is it November yet?

Dexter
August 19th, 2018, 02:32 PM
Adam Cole's pop for the Bay Bay is incredible.

ucsdguy1
August 19th, 2018, 08:07 PM
Um, did they just go off the air and forget everything Braun just said?

And despite one “you both suck” chant, this about sums it up:


WWE used Braun to prevent the fans from crapping all over the match, found a reasonable excuse to both not have him actually cash in AND give Roman his victory.

That was actually genius

TooCool
August 19th, 2018, 08:12 PM
Unreal that Vince gets the last laugh again.

Fans brought out the beach ball, chanted "You both suck". But yeah, Vince brought out Braun to tease a cash-in to prevent people from leaving. Then they kept it short before it got out of hand.

WWE fans got owned yet again. =x

Braun's speech didn't really make sense either. He mentioned that he's not a coward yet he'll face the next guy, the one who is tired and beat up. So that part is a little silly too.

ucsdguy1
August 19th, 2018, 08:17 PM
Unreal that Vince gets the last laugh again.

Fans brought out the beach ball, chanted "You both suck". But yeah, Vince brought out Braun to tease a cash-in to prevent people from leaving. Then they kept it short before it got out of hand.

WWE fans got owned yet again. =x

Braun's speech didn't really make sense either. He mentioned that he's not a coward yet he'll face the next guy, the one who is tired and beat up. So that part is a little silly too.
Could he have just said I’m cashing in right now before the match started and (a) taken roman’s Place or (b) make it a triple threat match?

ucsdguy1
August 19th, 2018, 08:18 PM
Also will have thoughts tomorrow but one of my favorite moments was the crowd booing Charlotte and how loud the pop was when Becky turned on her.

Who’s the heel?

TooCool
August 19th, 2018, 08:23 PM
Could he have just said I’m cashing in right now before the match started and (a) taken roman’s Place or (b) make it a triple threat match?

Also will have thoughts tomorrow but one of my favorite moments was the crowd booing Charlotte and how loud the pop was when Becky turned on her.

Who’s the heel?

Haha. In reality, Charlotte is the heel for weaseling her way into the Title Match, taking Becky's spotlight and all. When you look at the story from that point of view, Becky is still the face. But knowing WWE, I'm sure they'll have her cut a promo on Smackdown insulting the fans for not "believing in her" or "not standing by her".

As for the Braun.. he could have easily made it a Triple Threat Match. I don't think he could have replaced Roman in the match or anything. But of course the idea is to get Roman the title without making Braun lose his contract.

ucsdguy1
August 20th, 2018, 08:26 AM
Okay let's give this a go:

Reigns/Strowman - can see thoughts in the posts above. I question whether, even with the Strowman distraction, one spear at the end should've been enough to beat Lesnar. Especially after he turned like 3 super punches and 3 spears into a submission hold on Roman. (There are rumors on the nets the match was supposed to go 15 minutes longer but Vince made the call mid-match to end earlier) But, it's finally over and we can move on. I'll be curious to see where they go with Heyman now, if anywhere. And wasn't Lesnar scheduled for Raw tonight? I can't remember. Also if Vince really wants Reigns as a face, do they want Strowman to be the first guy he feuds with?

Rousey/Bliss - I'm very mixed on this. Rousey pretty much had to demolish Bliss, and boy did she ever. I guess if Bliss is wrestling Stratus at Evolution they'll have to come up with something else around her being the goddess that stratus never was. I thought the Rousey celebrations were a little much, what with running over the barricade and making out with her husband, the crying, the personal dedication to Natalya caught on mic (nice but more out of characters). I get she was happy, but she's still so raw in the business (no pun intended). Also her taunting Bliss and yelling to try and get the crowd involved was awkward. They got what they wanted, she was all over espn last night. I also am still a little perturbed about her going from super serious and angry to smiling and waving all the time. But now who the hell can possibly stop her on the women's roster? Jax? ::cough Baszler:: cough ::#toosoon::

Strowman/Owens - we get it. Strowman is a beast. But geezus do I feel bad for Owens. I mean really, this was a squash beyond all squashes. Owens deserves so much more but how can he possibly be considered a contender in the near future after that??

Miz/Bryan - pretty good match notwithstanding the ending. I think we all expected something along those lines, and now they can use some tv segments to make the rematch that much more meaningful.

Balor/Corbin - okay so the demon should be saved for special occasions, and this was unexpected. But that was kind of awesome, no? That petrified look on Corbin's face, and the fact that they let Balor take 100% of the offense. I like it, and hopefully Balor can move on to bigger and better things now.

Lynch/Flair/Carmella - pretty damn good match. Surprised Flair took this one. They could've had Carmella retain as Flair stopping Lynch from getting a pin and still gone ahead with the same storyline. The leadup and eventual outcome of this was so much more well done than Bayley/Banks. And I'll reiterate, the crowd pop when Lynch turned was awesome. Both she and Flair looked like they were taken aback too.

Ziggler/Rollins - crowd started slow, but subsequently was very into this. Typical high quality match from these guys. What does Ziggler do now? Not another rematch right? Note the dirt sheets also saying Ziggler was offered a new contract but has not signed. But maybe a rematch, Ziggler loses again and McYntire turns on him for not being good enough. No Ambrose heel turn just yet, but still feel it's coming.

New Day/Bludgeon Brothers - New Day made this into an entertaining match. If they didn't want to swap the belts, I guess this was a way to do it.

Styles/Joe - another brutal match. Surprised they let Styles take a DQ on this one. I'm not huge on the storyline of wrestlers young kids being involved (especially after watching the Mick Foley segment in that documentary awhile back). And with Styles all bloody, yeesh. Joe will go crazy now and put Styles to sleep every chance he gets before the no DQ rematch.

Hardy/Nakamura - aside from the missed arm to the groin which made me seriously laugh, did this match really happen? Actually, that missed swanton bomb to the side of the ring was brutal. ouch.

Not even going to talk about Rusev.

mitchrock
August 20th, 2018, 10:27 AM
An ad for Rollins/Ambrose vs Ziggler/McIntire was leaked for Hell in The Cell. Probably won't see the lunatic to a heel turn until then.

ucsdguy1
August 20th, 2018, 12:35 PM
An ad for Rollins/Ambrose vs Ziggler/McIntire was leaked for Hell in The Cell. Probably won't see the lunatic to a heel turn until then.
Well there you go

ucsdguy1
August 21st, 2018, 08:23 AM
Balor/Reigns put on a pretty decent match, and......not quite sure what to make of the Shield reunion. Where the heck did that come from, and was it really necessary? I imagine the reunion was a way to get Reigns cheered, but against Strowman who half the crowds will be cheering on anyway?

Oh and that Rousey segment was all kinds of awkward.

TooCool
August 21st, 2018, 08:46 AM
Balor/Reigns put on a pretty decent match, and......not quite sure what to make of the Shield reunion. Where the heck did that come from, and was it really necessary? I imagine the reunion was a way to get Reigns cheered, but against Strowman who half the crowds will be cheering on anyway?

Oh and that Rousey segment was all kinds of awkward.

Seems like they'll do anything to keep Reigns from getting booed. What bugs me more is that any time Roman is speaking, the camera tries so hard to find someone in the crowd with a pro-Reigns sign. It's like they're panning around so much instead of knowing where his fans actually are. As for Braun... it wouldn't surprise me if they will turn Braun heel again. Especially with his whole "I'm going to do it face to face but only when you're beat up first" speech. Twice he has said that now and failed to cash in. I have a feeling he'll do it when Reigns is down and out... especially after Lesnar beats him up (since the story is that Kurt refuses to give Lesnar his contractual rematch clause anytime soon).

As for the reunion though, they tried to do it before Ambrose got hurt right? Then there was that short while where Reigns had the mumps or whatever virus that was going around, so Kurt had to fill in at TLC as part of the Shield. Either way, the 2.0 reunion was certainly a bust so now they're going with 2.5... until Ambrose turns on them down the line. Come to think of it, that would be funny. Shield 1.0 was broken up because Rollins turned. Then 2.0 can be broken up because Ambrose turns. Then finally 3.0 can be Reigns... nah I'm over thinking this.

Rousey "breaking Steph's arm again" was kind of dumb. What's the point of this angle? Also, we all know they're trying to push Nikka Bella vs Ronda Rousey at Evolution but to have the Bella Twins just stand there ringside with the RAW girls was odd considering that Nikki belongs to Smackdown.

I'll try to get my Summerslam thoughts up later if I have time...

Also one more note on the Smackdown side, the dirt sheets say Rowan might be injured again. (He did look like he landed awkwardly when Xavier Woods countered him outside the ring at one point of the match). And tonight, they're doing Bludgeon Brothers vs New Day in a No DQ match. Maybe all 3 New Day members get involved, just because they can, and beat the Bludgeon Brothers for the titles.

ucsdguy1
August 22nd, 2018, 01:48 PM
Becky Lynch's interview was awesome. She's going to have to go harder at the fans though if they want her to get booed vs. cheered

TooCool
August 22nd, 2018, 02:13 PM
Becky Lynch's interview was awesome. She's going to have to go harder at the fans though if they want her to get booed vs. cheered

I pretty much expected that speech from Becky Lynch, about fans not being behind her with the #GiveBeckyAChance (http://letsgokings.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=GiveBeckyAChance) and all that nonsense. It's your typical tone deaf writers backstage who have already decided that Charlotte is the face and Becky is the heel, when in reality... Charlotte is the weasel here. Next week they're in Toronto I believe, so good luck getting Becky booed there too.

I also cannot say enough good things about The Miz. His cues are spot on. When Daniel Bryan came out and called him a coward, the first thing Miz did was take a step behind Maryse. I love little details like that. So what happens at HIAC? I'm guessing Brie loses the match to Maryse. Then at the Australia Super Show thing, they can fight 1 on 1 again.

I also want to say I have insane respect for Rowan who had a bicep injury. Dirt sheets reported his injury on Monday and yet he still went out there and worked a grueling 15 minute match with The New Day. Granted, New Day took most of the bumps but I can't imagine it was any easier on Rowan. I saw on Twitter that Harper thanked Rowan after Smackdown. That was nice to see.

ucsdguy1
August 22nd, 2018, 08:16 PM
I pretty much expected that speech from Becky Lynch, about fans not being behind her with the #GiveBeckyAChance (http://letsgokings.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=GiveBeckyAChance) and all that nonsense. It's your typical tone deaf writers backstage who have already decided that Charlotte is the face and Becky is the heel, when in reality... Charlotte is the weasel here. Next week they're in Toronto I believe, so good luck getting Becky booed there too.

I also cannot say enough good things about The Miz. His cues are spot on. When Daniel Bryan came out and called him a coward, the first thing Miz did was take a step behind Maryse. I love little details like that. So what happens at HIAC? I'm guessing Brie loses the match to Maryse. Then at the Australia Super Show thing, they can fight 1 on 1 again.

I also want to say I have insane respect for Rowan who had a bicep injury. Dirt sheets reported his injury on Monday and yet he still went out there and worked a grueling 15 minute match with The New Day. Granted, New Day took most of the bumps but I can't imagine it was any easier on Rowan. I saw on Twitter that Harper thanked Rowan after Smackdown. That was nice to see.
Oh for sure Maryse is going to do as little as possible, then probably nail Brie with brass knuckles that the Miz sneaks her for the pin. I hope the miz/bryan rematch for redemption is at something more important than the australian super show.

That's crazy if that's true on Rowan. Good for that guy.

ucsdguy1
August 24th, 2018, 07:52 AM
hm.....sane/baszler rematch at evolution?

http://www.ringsidenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/39114672_263162781073407_1067915301431017472_n.jpg

TooCool
August 27th, 2018, 01:11 PM
Bayley's Super fan Izzy can take a chokeslam. =o

https://twitter.com/mediumcore/status/1033860584335450112

ucsdguy1
August 28th, 2018, 11:40 AM
so Strowman is a heel now?

And oh man that match with Kevin Owens and his before and after interviews. Great stuff

TooCool
August 28th, 2018, 01:57 PM
so Strowman is a heel now?

And oh man that match with Kevin Owens and his before and after interviews. Great stuff

Seems like that's how they're trying to book him again. As a heel even though people would rather cheer him over Roman.

One big tell sign is that he mentioned how he wanted the match inside Hell in a Cell so Roman's Shield buddies can't interfere. To me, all signs point to the cell keeping Ambrose/Rollins out and Strowman getting help from Bray Wyatt and possibly Luke Harper. Plus that's technically the easiest way to book a Roman loss so he doesn't look weak at all (since Vince is all about protecting him).

I caught the Trish promo with Elias on Youtube. Was it just me or did Trish's voice and delivery feel flat? Felt like it lacked any emotion and she was mainly just trying to remember the lines off the script.

ucsdguy1
August 28th, 2018, 02:01 PM
I in no way shape or form think they're going to take the belt off Reigns already. Also, if Strowman was smart.....wouldn't he keep the briefcase nearby, and cash in once he/drew/dolph had destroyed all 3 guys?

Agreed on Stratus. That segment did nothing for me.

TooCool
August 29th, 2018, 11:13 AM
Is it just me or does almost every feud on Smackdown feel personal? Personal is great because it gets the people invested in the characters, even if a title isn't on the line.

AJ Styles/Samoa Joe
Becky/Charlotte
Daniel Bryan/Miz
Randy Orton/Jeff Hardy
Rusev/Aiden (for awhile anyway, maybe soon again unless WWE wants to keep em together)

Whereas on RAW, the feuds don't feel personal. When Rollins and Ziggler were fighting for the IC Title, it just felt like a "business feud" if that makes sense. Even Balor/Corbin... nothing about it feels personal. It's just your typical "Oh I'm the GM and I think Balor sucks because he's not a giant like me."

As for Smackdown, I couldn't help but feel bad for Carmella again. She ate all those finishers and held off on tapping out as long as she could. I could sense that she was savoring those last 10 seconds or so before tapping because she knew she's not going to be in the title picture again anytime soon. So her cries of agony hit me on a emotional level.. lol.

Also loved Becky's "You bitch" line. It was perfectly delivered and had a Stone Cold feel to it. I really hope they book her that way. You don't have to have someone do heelish acts to be a heel. Just give Becky the "I don't give a ****" attitude and that she'll stop at nothing to get the title. People will cheer her that way while making her look cool.

Daniel Bryan/Almas would have been amazing if they got another 10 minutes. The whole situation with Brie and Nikki is silly now. So the Bella Twins will wrestle on RAW even though Nikki belongs to Smackdown. But Brie will wrestle Maryse because everyone in the feud is on Smackdown. And I don't think they've thrown around that term "free agent" either.

And last of all, Orton/Hardy in Hell in a Cell? Jeff is totally going to jump off like Mankind isn't he? But I also expect the match to be kind of tame since they most likely want to save the big stuff for Reigns/Strowman. But what does Joe/Styles do now? They certainly can't do a simple 1 on 1... and it better not be a Last Man Standing match. I'm sick of those matches lol

LetTigerIn
August 29th, 2018, 02:05 PM
I thought a good outcome for Balor vs Corbin is if Balor came out, got DQ'd by destroying Corbin with with chair, etc. and put Corbin in the hospital, so there was no more GM on RAW. Then, the rest of the show could be anarchy until Stephanie or Vince showed up, or even some surprise interim GM. But I think the anarchy segments would be fun, with pretty much everything up for grabs.

ucsdguy1
August 29th, 2018, 02:06 PM
Is it just me or does almost every feud on Smackdown feel personal? Personal is great because it gets the people invested in the characters, even if a title isn't on the line.

AJ Styles/Samoa Joe
Becky/Charlotte
Daniel Bryan/Miz
Randy Orton/Jeff Hardy
Rusev/Aiden (for awhile anyway, maybe soon again unless WWE wants to keep em together)

Whereas on RAW, the feuds don't feel personal. When Rollins and Ziggler were fighting for the IC Title, it just felt like a "business feud" if that makes sense. Even Balor/Corbin... nothing about it feels personal. It's just your typical "Oh I'm the GM and I think Balor sucks because he's not a giant like me."

As for Smackdown, I couldn't help but feel bad for Carmella again. She ate all those finishers and held off on tapping out as long as she could. I could sense that she was savoring those last 10 seconds or so before tapping because she knew she's not going to be in the title picture again anytime soon. So her cries of agony hit me on a emotional level.. lol.

Also loved Becky's "You bitch" line. It was perfectly delivered and had a Stone Cold feel to it. I really hope they book her that way. You don't have to have someone do heelish acts to be a heel. Just give Becky the "I don't give a ****" attitude and that she'll stop at nothing to get the title. People will cheer her that way while making her look cool.

Daniel Bryan/Almas would have been amazing if they got another 10 minutes. The whole situation with Brie and Nikki is silly now. So the Bella Twins will wrestle on RAW even though Nikki belongs to Smackdown. But Brie will wrestle Maryse because everyone in the feud is on Smackdown. And I don't think they've thrown around that term "free agent" either.

And last of all, Orton/Hardy in Hell in a Cell? Jeff is totally going to jump off like Mankind isn't he? But I also expect the match to be kind of tame since they most likely want to save the big stuff for Reigns/Strowman. But what does Joe/Styles do now? They certainly can't do a simple 1 on 1... and it better not be a Last Man Standing match. I'm sick of those matches lol
Good points all around.

I wasn't sure if they were going to book Lynch as a Stone Cold type heel or just a full on heel everyone should hate. Seems to be the stone cold (how great was the reaction to Owens using the stunner the other night by the way). But yeah this bad a** becky is pretty cool. Agree on the b**** line, and the crowd ate it up. Even Charlotte's interview about her not squandering any opportunity made me feel like it was set up where the crowd would probably boo her. I still don't trust they won't try to turn her into a full on heel, but go Lynch go.

Almas/Bryan should be a high quality ppv match down the road.

I can't figure out if they're just going to keep Aiden with Rusev, but for goodness sakes give them the tag titles! Yeah Aiden might turn on him and cost a match, but at this point that would be really disjointed. I fully expect to have the bar go up against new day again, but Rusev Day would be a nice switch up.

Also, fun joking segments can be hit or miss. But man did I totally get the feels for Booker T last night. I love that guy (down to the Harlem Heat shirt I still have in my closet). All 4 of them put on a pretty funny segment. I will never get over "tell me you did not just say that", and Big E trying to do the spinaroo after not getting a good nickname made me laugh.

ucsdguy1
August 31st, 2018, 08:37 AM
Interesting.....Velveteen Dream apparently will be doing a couple of indie dates in addition to NXT



NXT Superstar Velveteen Dream will wrestle at EVOLVE on Sept. 7th in Joppa, MD and Sept. 8th in Queens, NY. His opponents will be announced soon at http://WWE.com . Tickets available at: http://wwnlive.ticketfly.com

CIrvine
September 3rd, 2018, 12:32 PM
I was at Barnes & Noble last Saturday and saw Shinsuke Nakamura's autobiography. I think it was the only book on the table that didn't have a ##% (http://letsgokings.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=%23%25) off sticker on it. I'll probably buy it when it goes on sale.

LetTigerIn
September 4th, 2018, 10:29 AM
I was at Barnes & Noble last Saturday and saw Shinsuke Nakamura's autobiography. I think it was the only book on the table that didn't have a ##% (http://letsgokings.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=%23%25) off sticker on it. I'll probably buy it when it goes on sale.


It's mostly 999 blank pages, but on the first one, it says,"No speak English!"

ucsdguy1
September 4th, 2018, 12:16 PM
so.....what the heck happened on raw last night? I guess the entire heel roster just had to beat up the shield? huh?

After the brilliant angle of Owens he returned quickly to just.....start on Bobby Lashley??

Way to go Balor.....buried....

Give me the ghost penises from All In (I had to google this like 5 times to understand what it was as I haven't been privy to the Being the Elite podcasts, but actually pretty funny). Also sounds like All In was pretty darn successful.

ucsdguy1
September 5th, 2018, 08:43 AM
and R-Truth was pretty amazing last night

TooCool
September 5th, 2018, 11:15 AM
and R-Truth was pretty amazing last night

I wonder if the whole Truth/Carmella gimmick was to set up the Mixed Match Challenge this whole time. Or did they find something that worked and then decided to just pair them up for the challenge? As for the Mixed Matched Challenge again, I think the pairings besides Carmella/Truth are lame. Miz/Asuka makes sense since they won the 1st one (although now Asuka isn't undefeated anymore.. they can lose quickly). But did we really need to see Alexa/Braun, Jimmy/Naomi, and Rusev/Lana again?

It was nice to see Truth pick up the win because Miz didn't need it. (Plus he was distracted). A little sad that once he won though, Truth and Carmella had to scoot away to the announce table like an afterthought because the focus was on Almas and Vega attacking them. If I had to nitpick it's Brie smiling when applying the yes lock. You see Daniel Bryan with the intensity on his face, and then Brie is just... smiling through it while Vega is selling it. =x

Rusev Day winning was good. It's interesting to note that the way they're winning is by Aiden saving Rusev countless times. I think a heel turn by Aiden would be random and quite frankly unnecessary. I don't see them beating The Bar though since unfortunately WWE doesn't like face vs face matchups.

AJ Styles vs Samoa Joe needs a stipulation for HIAC. There's no way it can be a standard 1 on 1 match.

As for RAW.. really random to have Drake Maverick as the manager for AOP. So is this the reboot for them so we can forget how poorly they've been booked? Also a little disappointed that Paul Ellering didn't go back to NXT to manage another team (to eventually feud with AOP).

And I really think they dropped the ball with Rollins and Strowman. Because Vince is so dead set on not wanting people to boo Roman, they fully turned Braun heel. And also made Rollins and Ambrose take a backseat by becoming a sidekick to Reigns. I mean come on now.. Then all the heels attacking The Shield looks like yet another 11 vs 3 match that WWE loves booking. (Strangely enough, I looked it up on Youtube and they've done three separate 11 vs 3 matches against the Shield. I wonder why 11 is the magic number? Not 10... and not 12. But 11.)

Made no sense that Owens would be there to help the heels seeing as how Braun tormented him for like 1-2 months right? WWE logic for ya. But at least we got to see Mike Kanellis on TV!

ucsdguy1
September 5th, 2018, 12:50 PM
Hmm....do we think Styles/Joe becomes no DQ and Styles goes insane but not in the right frame of mind loses......OH MY GAWD IT'S GARGANO/CIAMPA.

I don't see them letting Rusev/Aiden beat the Bar too, but it would be a nice advancement. And speaking of tag teams that are just kind of there a la AOP, has Sanity really served any other purposes other than just being there?

Nice to see Asuke back, but putting her with Naomi against the Iconics feels kind of a step down. Unless they're going to push a women's tag team division and have them as one of the contenders I guess.

I was watching Carmella with R-Truth and thought damn that was a pretty quick face turn. (Do we think they're going to bring R Truth's cousin "Maurice" for a future gig?) But I did get the feeling it's only for the mixed match challenge.

Totally agree on Strowman. He was on his way to being a top face that people already loved. This is purely as someone for Reigns to overcome. Couldn't they have just made McIntyre the first heel he went over without getting Strowman involved? Couldn't they have done 45 other things other than this? There are so many holes in this story.

ucsdguy1
September 6th, 2018, 09:27 AM
Shayna Baszler in her Bad Religion shirt last night suddenly made me a big Shayna Baszler fan

CIrvine
September 7th, 2018, 01:46 PM
At least Sanity is on TV. We get to see Anderson and Gallows once every two months.

TooCool
September 10th, 2018, 08:28 AM
At least Sanity is on TV. We get to see Anderson and Gallows once every two months.

True... but is it better to be on TV and lose all the time or not on TV ever? :think: Either way it sucks because when they show up on TV, they're just there to job. When even the casual fans in the audience know you're there to lose.. it's not a good thing.

And in other news today, Renee Young is officially on the RAW commentary team. Coach gets demoted to PPV Pre-Show duties.

LetTigerIn
September 10th, 2018, 09:05 AM
True... but is it better to be on TV and lose all the time or not on TV ever? :think: Either way it sucks because when they show up on TV, they're just there to job. When even the casual fans in the audience know you're there to lose.. it's not a good thing.

And in other news today, Renee Young is officially on the RAW commentary team. Coach gets demoted to PPV Pre-Show duties.


It's better to be on TV.

And good call on Renee Young and Coach. Now about Michael Cole...

CIrvine
September 10th, 2018, 01:21 PM
It's better to be on TV.

And good call on Renee Young and Coach. Now about Michael Cole...

And Byron Saxton.

LetTigerIn
September 10th, 2018, 03:27 PM
And Byron Saxton.

Saxton doesn't bother me that much, but he doesn't add much, either. He's mostly there to be Graves' foil lately.

ucsdguy1
September 11th, 2018, 10:34 AM
So on one hand I like the idea of Owens proclaiming he can do whatever he wants, "anarchy, agony and destruction are ahead". Another solid promo. On the other hand, I don't give two #$&*(^@s (http://letsgokings.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=%24%26%2A%28%5E%40s) that it's call because of Bobby Lashley. I'm supposed to believe Owens quit wwe because he's pissed Lashley put Zayn on the sidelines? Man they botched that quitting angle.

I have no idea why he has to be a guest referee for Hell in the Cell, but there's always room for Mick Foley.

CIrvine
September 11th, 2018, 01:35 PM
Last Saturday I was at the Los Cerritos Center and there is a store selling 1997 Survivor Series from Montreal Shawn Michaels/Bret Hart T-Shirts. Ugh.

ucsdguy1
September 11th, 2018, 03:13 PM
Last Saturday I was at the Los Cerritos Center and there is a store selling 1997 Survivor Series from Montreal Shawn Michaels/Bret Hart T-Shirts. Ugh.
That's a collector's item. It's historical.

Of course they should be selling Earl Hebner shirts right next to it.

TooCool
September 11th, 2018, 03:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUzbsVFrMU8

Great video. Makes you want to root for Zelina Vega even more than you already do.

ucsdguy1
September 12th, 2018, 11:44 AM
it's RUUUUSEV DAY. I love the fact that Aiden keeps saving the day and getting Rusev out of harm's way. They really should have them win the tag titles and go on a reign before Aiden turns on him. So I'll say either (a) Aiden turns on him at hitc and they lose, or (b) they lose cleanly.

That Joe storybook reading was somewhat disturbing.

So did that 6 year old girl know Becky was about to interrupt her selfie to attack Charlotte? Or was she as mortified as she appeared...

So, remind me again why Nakamura isn't wrestling at hitc?

TooCool
September 12th, 2018, 01:44 PM
it's RUUUUSEV DAY. I love the fact that Aiden keeps saving the day and getting Rusev out of harm's way. They really should have them win the tag titles and go on a reign before Aiden turns on him. So I'll say either (a) Aiden turns on him at hitc and they lose, or (b) they lose cleanly.

That Joe storybook reading was somewhat disturbing.

So did that 6 year old girl know Becky was about to interrupt her selfie to attack Charlotte? Or was she as mortified as she appeared...

So, remind me again why Nakamura isn't wrestling at hitc?

Just call him Johnny English because everything he's doing is very similar to how Gargano would sacrifice himself for Ciampa. Great stuff. They better put the Tag Titles on Rusev Day because The New Day clearly don't need it right now.

I dug the Samoa Joe storybook promo. Kind of cool that they used real footage of what happened and made it like they drew it. That "The End" page with a happy Wendy next to Joe was creepy. It is weird that they're only using 1 daughter in this story when everyone knows that AJ Styles has like 3 sons as well. Plus I think it's weird how they pretend that Joe isn't married himself.

So that 6 year old girl was clearly a plant. Just chalk it up to the whole "You must boo Becky!!!" Because she was conveniently filming the attack and yelling "Get up Charlotte!" Road Dogg got called out on it on Twitter and he got upset as usual lol..

As for Nakamura, unfortunately he has no one to feud with. :( WWE is in their phase where they forget about the mid-card title because look at Rollins on RAW. He hasn't defended his IC Title at all ever since The Shield came back. Which also just reminds me that Reigns says he's a fighting champion and hasn't defended the Universal Title either other than against Balor. It wouldn't surprise me if they just made Nakamura defend the US title in a pre-show match.

I'm loving this Bryan/Miz feud. As of now, I still think Brie is taking the pin. Especially since they teased Miz throwing Daniel onto Brie and whatnot. I hope their match is a tornado tag match though... but that's just me hoping. I'm not a fan of Mixed Tag Match rules where the guy had to fight the guy and the girl fights the girl. It takes away the point of a hot tag when both people have to leave the ring.

ucsdguy1
September 12th, 2018, 04:14 PM
Oh one other thing. That Asuke segment last night. Geezus f#$&*^ c$^$#.

TooCool
September 12th, 2018, 04:49 PM
Oh one other thing. That Asuke segment last night. Geezus f#$&*^ c$^$#.

They're totally going with the "Me English not so good. So we misunderstand each other because it's funny" gimmick huh?

TooCool
September 16th, 2018, 12:28 PM
I just realized that tonight's Hell in a Cell PPV only features 6 guys from RAW. It's more like a Smackdown PPV if anything. =o What's sad though is that there isn't even one Cruiserweight match on the card... Poor 205 Live.

Universal Championship – Hell in a Cell
Roman Reigns vs Braun Strowman

WWE Championship
AJ Styles vs Samoa Joe

Raw Women's Championship
Ronda Rousey vs Alexa Bliss

Smackdown Women's Championship
Charlotte Flair vs Becky Lynch

Raw Tag Team Championship
Dolph Ziggler & Drew McIntyre vs Seth Rollins & Dean Ambrose

Smackdown Tag Team Championship - Preshow :(
The New Day vs Rusev Day

Hell in a Cell
Jeff Hardy vs Randy Orton

Mixed Tag Team Match
Daniel Brian & Brie Bella vs The Miz & Maryse

Strowman, Reigns, Rollins, Ambrose, Ziggler, and McIntyre. That's it. Just 6 guys from RAW. Meanwhile Smackdown has Bryan, Miz, Hardy, Orton, New Day (3), Rusev Day (2), Styles, and Joe for a total of 11 guys from Smackdown. I'm sure they'll find some filler for guys like Elias, Lashley, Owens, Corbin, Balor, etc on the PPV though.. might be why they bumped the Smackdown Tag Title match to the Pre-show.

As for my question predictions.. I don't see anything special happening.

- If the Wyatt Family reunites, then Strowman is winning the title tonight. But all signs point to a long Roman title reign (no pun intended), so he retains while Braun wastes his MITB cash in.

- I'd love to see Samoa Joe finally win the WWE Title.. but since AJ Styles is the cover boy for WWE2K19, I see him holding onto it a while longer.

- Rousey is retaining.. obviously. This is probably the most least interesting match on the card.

- Flair/Lynch should be really good and I hope they get 15-20 minutes. Would love to see Becky win but for some reason I doubt it. I think Charlotte keeps it until the WWE Women's PPV.

- Ziggler/McIntyre just won the RAW Tag Champs a few weeks ago right? Don't see them dropping it to Rollins/Ambrose unless Vince really wants everyone on the Shield to hold all the titles. (I mean Rollins is already the IC Champ after all)

- Would have loved to see Rusev Day win the titles but since this match got put on the Pre-show, I doubt a title change is anywhere close to happening now. Hopefully they can spin a story line out of this. We've seen Aiden save Rusev time and time again. Maybe Rusev gets the chance to sacrifice himself to save Aiden, and he doesn't? (But that won't really work since we don't need Rusev turning heel...)

- Jeff Hardy gets his Hell in a Cell match for the first time in his career. He's going to take a huge bump and lose the match.

- I believe Daniel and Brie are the favorites here but I still think they made this match solely for the reason for Brie to get pinned by Maryse. This will allow Miz and Maryse to continue bragging about how much better they are than Daniel and Brie.

ucsdguy1
September 16th, 2018, 10:03 PM
So....seriously?