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TooCool
October 28th, 2014, 09:15 AM
Julius Randle for Rookie of the Year!!

That's all I got. And hopefully Kobe stays healthy so he can keep climbing those record books.

TooCool
October 29th, 2014, 12:09 AM
And............ Julius Randle suffers fractured right tibia. F*** ME!

eddieshack23
October 29th, 2014, 07:59 AM
It's going to be a long season. Like the 06-07 Kings.

Christhn
October 29th, 2014, 08:48 AM
This team just can't catch a break :(

MaxwellSmart
October 29th, 2014, 09:34 AM
Randle was the only reason why I was looking forward to watching this team. After seeing last night's game, I don't think I can stomach them. They're awful.

LAsportsfan
October 29th, 2014, 12:49 PM
So what do you guys say about a future frontline of Randle (assuming he can bounce back) and Jahlil Okafor????

Cross Traffic
October 30th, 2014, 03:06 PM
Of course Kobe starts ****talking to Howard (including using the N word) when the Rockets are whooping the Lakers ass. Remember folks, 30 million for Kobe this year.

LetTigerIn
October 30th, 2014, 05:26 PM
Remember folks, 30 million for Kobe this year.

How do you figure?

Cross Traffic
October 31st, 2014, 05:32 AM
http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/la-sp-kobe-bryant-earnings-20131126-story.html

That is his salary this year.

Ice24
October 31st, 2014, 08:05 AM
So what do you guys say about a future frontline of Randle (assuming he can bounce back) and Jahlil Okafor????

I believe he broke the same leg in high school. If this is true, this might be a major problem for this young man.

Ice24
October 31st, 2014, 08:06 AM
I am predicting 17 wins on the season.

MaxwellSmart
October 31st, 2014, 09:20 AM
I am predicting 17 wins on the season.

That sounds about right. The problem is that it's probably only bad enough to be the #4 (http://letsgokings.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=4) pick in the draft.

TooCool
October 31st, 2014, 10:31 AM
Remember folks, 30 million for Kobe this year.


How do you figure?

And the crazy thing is... Kobe is still way unpaid.

Ice24
October 31st, 2014, 10:36 AM
Kobe has a had a great run! These are going to be lean years for the Lakers and that is going to be tough to swallow for Kobe. He is a huge competitor and this is going to be rough for him. I know he does not want to go out like this, however they are going to be down for at least 4-5 years.

Cross Traffic
October 31st, 2014, 10:12 PM
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--y8lnqPZ5--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/uavgvv4stywj9vs4lcec.gif

Fail

Cross Traffic
November 5th, 2014, 10:06 AM
Here is Kobe's shot chart from last night 14 of 37:

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--CFqwyPKW--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_320/uzhokteefawajzb4qvjz.png

borinka99
November 5th, 2014, 11:56 AM
I HATE his decision making at the end of games. If I was the opposing team, I would just triple-team him since he's not passing it anyway. He ALWAYS has to be the hero. But this team isn't going anywhere this year. Hopefully they end up with a top-5 pick, otherwise Phoenix will get it for the amazing Steve Nash trade.

VEGASKING
November 6th, 2014, 08:19 PM
Can you blame him? I wouldn't trust any of these guys to make a shot either. His shot attempts are going to be off the charts this year with no one to pass to and the "haters" will be out in full force.

borinka99
November 7th, 2014, 11:04 AM
Can you blame him? I wouldn't trust any of these guys to make a shot either. His shot attempts are going to be off the charts this year with no one to pass to and the "haters" will be out in full force.

This year, not really. But he has been doing that for years.

redxalonso
November 9th, 2014, 09:03 PM
The free agent that the Lakers should throw the maximum at, IF he chooses to leave the Warriors, has got to be Stephen Curry. I wasn't sold on the guy in the beginning but he has proven me wrong.

More skilled big men (hopefully Okafor and Thon Maker as well) are available in the next two drafts to play with Julius Randle.

Kobe stays for less money for another 3-4 years?

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Cross Traffic
December 20th, 2014, 07:37 AM
http://deadspin.com/jeremy-lin-wishes-kobe-would-let-him-shoot-a-game-winne-1673520568

Another day at the dumpster fire....Kobe 3 for 15 and 0 for 3 from the 3pt line.

mrm55
December 21st, 2014, 11:53 PM
http://deadspin.com/jeremy-lin-wishes-kobe-would-let-him-shoot-a-game-winne-1673520568

Another day at the dumpster fire....Kobe 3 for 15 and 0 for 3 from the 3pt line.

Keep it up Mamba. We need bottom 5 finish. Keep our protected first round pick.

ucsdguy1
December 31st, 2014, 11:42 AM
they're gonna be just good enough to lose that pick

TooCool
December 31st, 2014, 02:50 PM
they're gonna be just good enough to lose that pick

It'll most definitely happen. >_<

Philly, Detroit, Minnesota are not surprising. But New York? Geez. And we still got Boston, Charlotte, Indiana, and Utah to worry about.

Hkyfmly
February 13th, 2015, 07:19 AM
Do the Lakers have thier first round pick this year?

VEGASKING
February 13th, 2015, 10:28 AM
As long as they have one of the top 5 picks they get to keep it. Right now they would pick 4th.

New York 10-43
MINN 11-42
Philly 12-41
LA 13-40
Orlando 17-39

Hkyfmly
February 13th, 2015, 01:09 PM
As long as they have one of the top 5 picks they get to keep it. Right now they would pick 4th.

New York 10-43
MINN 11-42
Philly 12-41
LA 13-40
Orlando 17-39

Thanks for the information

HeadInjury
February 20th, 2015, 02:40 PM
As long as they have one of the top 5 picks they get to keep it. Right now they would pick 4th.

Not necessarily. They would still have to survive the lottery. Only the teams with the worst or second worst records are guaranteed to get a top 5 pick.

3rd Worst: 96% chance of Top 5
4th Worst: 83% chance of Top 5
5th Worst: 55% chance of Top 5
6th Worst: 19% chance of Top 5

As things stands, Lakers have a good chance of overtaking Minnesota since the Wolves are now healthy and playing better. The Knicks are now without Carmelo, Stoudemire and Prigioni. Phil knows the art of the tank.

So Lakers will probably battle the Sixers for the 2nd worst record. Unless they do something stupid and start winning meaningless games.

TooCool
February 23rd, 2015, 09:28 AM
I know we're suppose to be tanking but beating the Celtics is always nice.

HeadInjury
February 23rd, 2015, 10:00 AM
I know we're suppose to be tanking but beating the Celtics is always nice.

Can't lose them all.

mrm55
February 24th, 2015, 02:33 PM
Can't lose them all.

We need to lose all of them. Every single game.

Because without LA getting Okafor, what game changing veterans want to come to the Lakers? None. The stars want to win a title, ain't happening without at least two big names, and Kobe isn't that name. In fact Kobe scares players off from coming here. Julius Randle isn't proven, right now reminds me of the worst draft pick ever:Greg Oden. Always injured. What's he played 14 seconds?

Okafor or bust...

HeadInjury
February 25th, 2015, 12:16 PM
You really can't lose them all. Every team wins once in a while. Even the really terrible ones.

Having the worst record only gives you a 25% chance of winning the lottery by the way. The odds are overwhelming against the Lakers picking Okafor under any circumstance.

The players aren't going to lose games on purpose. Most are in the last year of their contracts and want to show the Lakers and other teams that they are worth something. On the Lakers, the only players currently playing that are signed for next year are Kelly and Young. Hill, Clarkson and Sacre have team options. Davis will opt out. Almost everyone's status for next year is uncertain and they have every incentive to try to play well.

That said, I think the Lakers are 2-16 in their last 18. They are tanking pretty hard as is.

mrm55
February 25th, 2015, 12:54 PM
Lakers need to get Okafor, or it will be a decade or more before they're meaningful.

Lakers have cap space, and their biggest hope is to sign Marc Gasol. Yeah his brother was the subject of trade rumors, who isn't? But Pau left "wonderful" LA to play for 3 years, for the same money he could've made in 2 years here. Pau's playing an extra year to get out of here, and play with a contender. Why would Marc want to play with this rag time bunch of losers?

Lakers will probably never be this low in the draft for a long time. I'd give both our firsts and seconds draft places, and any player (god, I wish it would be Kobe) to get Okafor.

Just tank baby...

HeadInjury
February 27th, 2015, 02:57 PM
Key 10 game stretch for the tank coming up.

Lakers facing only one team in the next 10 games that is out of playoff contention.

mrm55
March 8th, 2015, 03:20 PM
Below are standings of the five worst teams and their odds to land the No. 1 overall pick after the May 19 draft lottery.

1. New York (12-49, 25%)

2. Philadelphia (14-49, 19.9%)

3. Minnesota (14-47, 15.6%)

4. Lakers (16-45, 10.4%)

5. Orlando (20-43, 10.3%)


Okay, tank for the #3 (http://letsgokings.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=3) slot. It improves the odds by 50%.

HeadInjury
March 11th, 2015, 08:40 AM
I flipped on the game after the Kings game was over and it has been a long time since I've seen a team play as bad as Detroit did in the second half. Lakers were horrible too.

HeadInjury
March 11th, 2015, 04:04 PM
Wow. The salary cap is $63 million this season and expected to be $66 million next year. However, because of the new tv contract goes into effect after that, there are reports that the salary cap for 2016-17 is projected to go up to about $90 million.

mrm55
April 12th, 2015, 03:44 PM
I just did a cursory glance at the centers for the 3 teams picking ahead of us (IF we keep the 4th pick). None appear to need a center. Lakers might have a choice between Okafor and Towns. Sweet...

TooCool
April 13th, 2015, 08:39 AM
I just did a cursory glance at the centers for the 3 teams picking ahead of us (IF we keep the 4th pick). None appear to need a center. Lakers might have a choice between Okafor and Towns. Sweet...

While a high draft pick is awesome, it sucks that we can't really rely on them either. Hopefully when we get Randle back he's not injury prone. Seems like the consensus among Laker fans is that we should get Towns and not Okafor. And there's that rumor of a UCLA reunion with Love and Westbrook coming here. That's what we need too... major free agent signings.

mrm55
April 13th, 2015, 12:48 PM
While a high draft pick is awesome, it sucks that we can't really rely on them either. Hopefully when we get Randle back he's not injury prone. Seems like the consensus among Laker fans is that we should get Towns and not Okafor. And there's that rumor of a UCLA reunion with Love and Westbrook coming here. That's what we need too... major free agent signings.

I'd give my left ---, and become celibate if that happened. It's not that big a deal for me, because I've been married so long.

HeadInjury
April 14th, 2015, 01:21 PM
Here's the lottery odds for the Lakers:

11.9% chance to get the #1 (http://letsgokings.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1) pick
12.6% chance to get the #2 (http://letsgokings.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2) pick
13.3% chance to get the #3 (http://letsgokings.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=3) pick
9.9% chance to get the #4 (http://letsgokings.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=4) pick
35.1% chance to get the #5 (http://letsgokings.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=5) pick
16% chance to get the #6 (http://letsgokings.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=6) pick (in which case the pick goes to Philadelphia)
1.2% chance to get the #7 (http://letsgokings.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=7) pick (in which case the pick goes to Philadelphia)

So only a 10% chance they get the 4th pick. Odds slightly better of landing in the top 3 than falling to #5 (http://letsgokings.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=5) . Finally a 17% chance they lose the pick to the Sixers. Should this occur, then they get to keep their 2016 first-round pick. If they end up with a top-5 pick this year, then the 2016 first round pick is only top-3 protected.

mrm55
April 14th, 2015, 01:52 PM
After the season from hell, we end up only having a 48% chance of picking in the top 4. Sucks..

HeadInjury
April 14th, 2015, 02:15 PM
On the bright side, the team actually has some good supporting talent in Clarkson and Black, and perhaps in Davis, Ellington and Brown (if re-signed). Add Bryant and Randle back in to the mix, and assuming the lottery is kind to them, the team will only be a couple starters short of being competitive again with money to spend in free agency.

HeadInjury
April 15th, 2015, 03:28 PM
With their final game tonight, the following Lakers' seasons have already ended due to injury:

Bryant
Nash
Randle
Young
Clarkson
Lin
Johnson
Ellington
Price
Buycks
Henry

TooCool
April 15th, 2015, 09:05 PM
After the season from hell, we end up only having a 48% chance of picking in the top 4. Sucks..

Obviously, it's impossible to lose every single game but it's frustrating to see the Lakers win those key tank games against teams like Minnesota, Philly, Sacramento, Utah, and New York. =\

FortyFour
April 15th, 2015, 09:47 PM
Can we delete this thread as soon as the season ends so we can just forget it forever?

LetTigerIn
April 17th, 2015, 09:05 AM
True, it was the worst record in Lakers history, but, honestly, the most disappointing part of the season for me was how everybody was calling for the tank. Seriously, f that. It seems like it's going to take some time to get this together, regardless of whether the Lakers keep their pick or not. This team sort of reminds me of the early '90s Lakers squad (well, really the most-of-the-'90s squad), which, granted, didn't win anything, but they played hard, entertained, and nobody called for them to tank. There are some similarities to this team, although, admittedly, it was a lot easier to have confidence in a build by a front office with Jerry West.

So, buck up, fellow Lakers fans, and speaking of Buck…


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8Qbo0WqvOI

HeadInjury
April 17th, 2015, 01:47 PM
Magic, Kareem and Worthy were all #1 (http://letsgokings.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1) overall draft picks.

The team itself didn't try to tank this year (nor should they have), but as a fan I recognize that the team's chance at a speedy revival is linked to getting a top draft pick. So I accepted the losses. Nothing is gained by the Lakers losing their pick this year (which can still happen), and ending up with a pick in the 10 to 15 range next year.

mrm55
April 17th, 2015, 04:42 PM
Lakers needed to tank. NBA doesn't have farm teams , with good young players in the pipeline, like the NHL and MLB. You play with what you have. Lakers biggest hope of the free agents is Marc Gasol. Let's see his brother played here and ran away to play an extra year FOR FREE in Chicago, instead of playing for LA. Forget free agents, we have no outstanding franchise player. Please don't say Kobe is one, he is hated by more players than any current player. Dwight Howard also ran away from an EXTRA 20 MILLION to get away from Kobe. He's certainly not the leader in Houston, Harden is. So don't give me Dwight wanted his own team crap. He is a superstar who couldn't play with Mr. Bryant, exactly like Shaq couldn't.

Plus Kobe is 74 years old, and I don't think he'll finish the season. There certainly won't be another season for him.

We should've done what the best mind in basketball (Phil Jackson) did, tanked and only won 15 games.

I can see the free agents lining up now to come to this powerhouse.

Ice24
April 17th, 2015, 05:36 PM
Lakers needed to tank. NBA doesn't have farm teams , with good young players in the pipeline, like the NHL and MLB. You play with what you have. Lakers biggest hope of the free agents is Marc Gasol. Let's see his brother played here and ran away to play an extra year FOR FREE in Chicago, instead of playing for LA. Forget free agents, we have no outstanding franchise player. Please don't say Kobe is one, he is hated by more players than any current player. Dwight Howard also ran away from an EXTRA 20 MILLION to get away from Kobe. He's certainly not the leader in Houston, Harden is. So don't give me Dwight wanted his own team crap. He is a superstar who couldn't play with Mr. Bryant, exactly like Shaq couldn't.

Plus Kobe is 74 years old, and I don't think he'll finish the season. There certainly won't be another season for him.

We should've done what the best mind in basketball (Phil Jackson) did, tanked and only won 15 games.

I can see the free agents lining up now to come to this powerhouse.

Most free agents understand Kobe is done in a year. Kevin Love and another might want to join the Lakers. The draft has so many players coming in, they will be fine in 4-5 years.

mrm55
May 17th, 2015, 06:13 PM
Lakers really need to stay in top 5 Tuesday.

Remember: ..."Should the Lakers lose their pick in May, the Lakers will keep their own 2016 first-round selection, but with top-three protection that also extends through the 2017 NBA draft. If the Lakers are still terrible enough, the pick will go to Philadelphia in 2018, but fully unprotected.

Complicating matters, the Lakers owe the Orlando Magic a first-round pick for Dwight Howard, which will convey two years after the Lakers give their pick to the 76ers.

If the Lakers fall out in the lottery Tuesday, they'll also give the Magic their 2017 first-rounder. If the 76ers get the pick in 2016 then Orlando gets it in 2018 -- if 2017 then 2019."

TooCool
May 18th, 2015, 08:13 AM
Lakers really need to stay in top 5 Tuesday.

Remember: ..."Should the Lakers lose their pick in May, the Lakers will keep their own 2016 first-round selection, but with top-three protection that also extends through the 2017 NBA draft. If the Lakers are still terrible enough, the pick will go to Philadelphia in 2018, but fully unprotected.

Complicating matters, the Lakers owe the Orlando Magic a first-round pick for Dwight Howard, which will convey two years after the Lakers give their pick to the 76ers.

If the Lakers fall out in the lottery Tuesday, they'll also give the Magic their 2017 first-rounder. If the 76ers get the pick in 2016 then Orlando gets it in 2018 -- if 2017 then 2019."

F*** you Dwight Howard.

At least they won't make it past Golden State. And Clippers gonna Clip. :lol:

HeadInjury
May 19th, 2015, 10:48 AM
My 10 runs through the ESPN lottery simulator: 5, 4, 6, 2, 3, 2, 1, 5, 5, 4.

VEGASKING
May 19th, 2015, 05:56 PM
Welcome to LA Towns or Okafor. Nice.

HeadInjury
May 19th, 2015, 05:56 PM
Lakers get the #2 (http://letsgokings.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2) pick! Hello Towns or Okafor.

Edit: Ha. I see we think alike.

SmytheKing
May 19th, 2015, 07:42 PM
Lakers get the #2 (http://letsgokings.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2) pick! Hello Towns or Okafor.

Edit: Ha. I see we think alike.

I'll bet they go with Williams or Mudiay. Towns is going to be nice, but he's going to MN and I don't think the Lakers want another center with questionable work ethic in Okafor. If MN takes Okafor though...Towns would be nice with Randall down low.

It's a guard league now anyway though. Having Williams and Mudiay as an option to draft is going to be too hard for them to pass up I think.

TooCool
May 20th, 2015, 08:50 AM
Pleasantly surprised we drew #2 (http://letsgokings.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2) . I was sure they ****ed themselves over winning meaningless games against teams we were chasing like Philly.

SmytheKing
May 20th, 2015, 09:13 AM
Pleasantly surprised we drew #2 (http://letsgokings.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2) . I was sure they ****ed themselves over winning meaningless games against teams we were chasing like Philly.

I was just happy they kept their pick. When they didn't call the Lakers at 6 I let out a big sigh. From that point on I kept getting more and more excited. Also, and I know it's blasphemy to even suggest this, but what about the idea of trading the pick to NY, getting Williams at 4 (because I think PHI is really really high on Mudiay) and picking up a 1st from NY as well? Is that even within the realm of possibilities?

mrm55
May 20th, 2015, 11:02 AM
I read, after the draft, Minn is one of the few teams that preferred Okafor to Towns. I hope that is true.

I also read the Lakers might prefer the guard that played in China over Okafor. Not good.

HeadInjury
May 20th, 2015, 12:30 PM
Getting a center on a rookie scale contract would be a real plus. Lakers can have 3 of 5 starters (#2, Randle and Clarkson) under manageable contracts for some time. With the salary cap exploding in a couple of years from now, they will be able to add a couple of max players to the mix as well over the next few years.

I think they should at least be in the hunt for a final playoff spot next season, if they can get a quality SF and guard via free agency and can remain healthy.

SmytheKing
May 20th, 2015, 01:56 PM
Getting a center on a rookie scale contract would be a real plus. Lakers can have 3 of 5 starters (#2, Randle and Clarkson) under manageable contracts for some time. With the salary cap exploding in a couple of years from now, they will be able to add a couple of max players to the mix as well over the next few years.

I think they should at least be in the hunt for a final playoff spot next season, if they can get a quality SF and guard via free agency and can remain healthy.

That's a TALL order. I'm not sure they're going to get another 30 wins out of this team as it is. Short of Love opting out and joining the team, Kobe being 100% for 82 games, Randle being worthy of a starting spot (and staying healthy), and filling out the rest of the team with talent, you're looking at another mediocre season. If they get 40 wins this next season consider it a huge success.

SmytheKing
May 20th, 2015, 01:59 PM
I read, after the draft, Minn is one of the few teams that preferred Okafor to Towns. I hope that is true.

I also read the Lakers might prefer the guard that played in China over Okafor. Not good.

It's not as bad an idea as you'd think. Mudiay is considered to be the same type of player as James Harden and was ranked higher than Okafor coming out of HS. Okafor is super talented down low, but can't (doesn't?) play defense. Coach K even said that his big challenge at the next level will be how much he wants it. He's also not very athletic/quick so it's not likely that his defense will get a lot better at the next level. Adding to that the fact that many centers are playing further out now, you're looking at him being a liability at times too.

mrm55
May 20th, 2015, 02:05 PM
It's not as bad an idea as you'd think. Mudiay is considered to be the same type of player as James Harden and was ranked higher than Okafor coming out of HS. Okafor is super talented down low, but can't (doesn't?) play defense. Coach K even said that his big challenge at the next level will be how much he wants it. He's also not very athletic/quick so it's not likely that his defense will get a lot better at the next level. Adding to that the fact that many centers are playing further out now, you're looking at him being a liability at times too.

Ranked ahead in high school means squat. It's now that counts.

Every basketball expert has said there are 2 franchise players in the draft. Not one has said Mudiay is one.

SmytheKing
May 20th, 2015, 02:27 PM
Ranked ahead in high school means squat. It's now that counts.

Every basketball expert has said there are 2 franchise players in the draft. Not one has said Mudiay is one.

He averaged 18 points, 6 rebounds, and 6 assists against men and former NBA players in China last year. It's not like he's lost something. Also, "every" is quite the claim there considering Mudiay/Towns/Okafor have all been considered to go #1 (http://letsgokings.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1) overall. I think you might be overstating that. The reason Mudiay dropped is due to two factors. One, Towns playing great in the tourney and getting a bump because of that. Two, Mudiay got injured and not a lot of people got to see him since he was in China.

Honestly, Okafor is going to be talented offensively in the NBA but will struggle defensively. That's basically the same as Randle. If Towns isn't there, I'm not super high on getting another post player who can't protect the rim and isn't very quick. Stretch 4's and wing players will eat that alive in this league to say nothing of getting killed on pick and rolls.

mrm55
May 20th, 2015, 02:40 PM
Not saying he's not good.

You can't disprove everyone takes the 2 big men over him. Hell most take Russell over him, making him a distant fourth.

SmytheKing
May 20th, 2015, 04:03 PM
Not saying he's not good.

You can't disprove everyone takes the 2 big men over him. Hell most take Russell over him, making him a distant fourth.

That's because when all things are equal, they always go with the big guys. That's always been the rule in the NBA and likely always will be. It's why Olowokandi was picked 1st. It's why Joe Smith was picked 1st. It's why Andrew Bogut was picked 1st. It's why Greg Oden was picked first. It's why Anthony Bennet was picked 1st.

Again, the reason Mudiay has dropped is because people haven't seen enough of him, and what they did see was highlight clips from China. At least a guy like Kyrie Irving was at Duke and on TV for the execs to watch if they couldn't make the games. That's also the reason Williams has moved up. Not to mention, if PHI had the 1st overall pick there's a VERY good chance Mudiay goes #1 (http://letsgokings.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1) since they don't have a need for Okafor or Towns. The NBA draft is more about needs when guys are close like this and PHI needs a guard.

Also, you keep saying everyone. I'd be willing to bet that Houston doesn't take either of those two. I'd bet Portland doesn't either. Nor does Cleveland or New Orleans. There are plenty of teams that would take someone besides Towns or Okafor which tells you that they aren't consensus guys but ones that fit needs for the teams that are picking early. Plus, he's not a "distant" fourth either. He's fourth in a pack of guys who would be shuffled if the order of the teams was different.

Lastly, I don't care who they pick. They can't go wrong with any of those four guys. They're going to need a PG so Clarkson can slide to the 2 when Kobe is gone. They need a defensive guy down low (and Okafor ain't it) so I'd like to get Towns. If they end up with Okafor, so be it. He'll be nice to have but they're really going to have to adjust for the lack of rim protection they'll have with him and Randle. Personally I'd like to see them go get Jordan from the Clippers or Gasol from Memphis, trade to the 3rd or 4th spot and pick up another 1st and get either Williams or Mudiay. The Lakers need a lot of help and whoever they get this draft isn't going to vault them to the top of the West.

mrm55
May 20th, 2015, 04:14 PM
Also, you keep saying everyone. I'd be willing to bet that Houston doesn't take either of those two. I'd bet Portland doesn't either. Nor does Cleveland or New Orleans. There are plenty of teams that would take someone besides Towns or Okafor which tells you that they aren't consensus guys but ones that fit needs for the teams that are picking early. Plus, he's not a "distant" fourth either. He's fourth in a pack of guys who would be shuffled if the order of the teams was different.
Yes everyone.

This is the GM hoping for one of the big 2 and probably getting Mudiay, caption reads "Knicks GM Steve Mills drops his head after hearing the Knicks will pick No. 4 in the NBA Draft."

https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/mills2.jpg?w=720&h=480&crop=1

SmytheKing
May 20th, 2015, 04:52 PM
Yes everyone.

This is the GM hoping for one of the big 2 and probably getting Mudiay, caption reads "Knicks GM Steve Mills drops his head after hearing the Knicks will pick No. 4 in the NBA Draft."

https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/mills2.jpg?w=720&h=480&crop=1

Hold up. You mean to tell me that a GM that was slotted to get the 2nd overall and possibly the 1st, dropped to 4th and was disappointed? Oh, well then. That proves that everyone would draft them 1st overall. My bad. I'm wrong on this one. Not a single person in the NBA would pick Mudiay first.

Other than the guy Chad Ford spoke with, at least.


"The two guys with the biggest upsides in the draft are Mudiay and Towns," one NBA GM told ESPN. "Okafor and Russell are more sure things, but neither of those guys have the ceiling of Mudiay and Towns. And of those four, Mudiay is the best athlete. I can understand a team taking any of those four guys No. 1. But if you're asking me who has the chance to be a game-changer in the NBA, I think it's Mudiay. Big risk, big reward."

Though, he's hardly a basketball expert. He's just an actual GM of a team in the NBA.

Seriously, you're arguing a point that isn't true. You can have the guy you want. Great. Just might want to stop pretending that your opinion is absolute in nature.

mrm55
May 20th, 2015, 05:03 PM
Hold up. You mean to tell me that a GM that was slotted to get the 2nd overall and possibly the 1st, dropped to 4th and was disappointed? Oh, well then. That proves that everyone would draft them 1st overall. My bad. I'm wrong on this one. Not a single person in the NBA would pick Mudiay first.

Other than the guy Chad Ford spoke with, at least.



Though, he's hardly a basketball expert. He's just an actual GM of a team in the NBA.

Seriously, you're arguing a point that isn't true. You can have the guy you want. Great. Just might want to stop pretending that your opinion is absolute in nature.

It is absolute.

You googled for 2 hours and you find one unnamed source? LMAO

Here's another article on how the team destined to get Muiday feels absolutely sick to their stomach:

http://nypost.com/2015/05/19/tanks-for-nothing-lottery-just-another-downer-for-knicks-fans/

You're also wrong on Houston. Howard missed 1/2 the season, and is now hurt in the playoffs. Houston would love Towns!

Keep smoking whatever puts you out of touch with reality.

You have no clue of basketball reality.

Maybe you should try being a fan of cricket. Size doesn't matter there either. Yeah that's it. Cricket.

SmytheKing
May 20th, 2015, 09:53 PM
Lol. Ok bro. You're right. You can't win in the NBA without a dominant big man.

Kings7
May 24th, 2015, 08:45 PM
Rumored that Okafor doesn't want to play for Minnesota, he wants to go to Lakers. With most analysts ranking Towns #1 (http://letsgokings.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1) , seems likely that Minnesota selects Towns. The experts say that the #1 (http://letsgokings.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1) pick should always be the best player (Towns).

HeadInjury
May 27th, 2015, 12:24 PM
Can't go wrong with Towns, Okafor or Russell. But LA Times stated a few days ago that Lakers were going to go big.

mrm55
May 27th, 2015, 04:40 PM
I wish some contending team would take Kobe and his $25,000,000 contract, and give us back some number 1 draft picks. I know it isn't happening. But here's one reason Lakers have trouble landing good free agents.

http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/lakers/post/_/id/41622/dudley-most-guys-dont-want-to-play-with-kobe

SmytheKing
May 29th, 2015, 10:12 AM
I wish some contending team would take Kobe and his $25,000,000 contract, and give us back some number 1 draft picks. I know it isn't happening. But here's one reason Lakers have trouble landing good free agents.

http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/lakers/post/_/id/41622/dudley-most-guys-dont-want-to-play-with-kobe

Lol. The idea that a contending team WOULD take Kobe at this point is crazy. The fact that they literally wouldn't be able to due to salary cap restrictions aside, there's absolutely zero chance a team would give you one, let alone a couple of first round draft picks for Kobe Bryant. He's a malcontent, he's broken, his contract is outrageous (even for one more year), and he won't play within a system and won't defer to someone else.

If we're playing the "I wish" game though, let's trade him to New Orleans for Anthony Davis.

mrm55
May 29th, 2015, 11:18 AM
Lol. The idea that a contending team WOULD take Kobe at this point is crazy. The fact that they literally wouldn't be able to due to salary cap restrictions aside, there's absolutely zero chance a team would give you one, let alone a couple of first round draft picks for Kobe Bryant. He's a malcontent, he's broken, his contract is outrageous (even for one more year), and he won't play within a system and won't defer to someone else.

If we're playing the "I wish" game though, let's trade him to New Orleans for Anthony Davis.

LMAO. That you don't realize top teams buy players for a year to make a run. Totally possible that a team could you use a 24 point per game rental for one year to win a championship. Especially if Lakers eat part of the contract. lol that you don't grasp this reality.

Kings7
May 29th, 2015, 11:41 AM
LMAO. That you don't realize top teams buy players for a year to make a run. Totally possible that a team could you use a 24 point per game rental for one year to win a championship. Especially if Lakers eat part of the contract. lol that you don't grasp this reality.

24 points on 40 shot attempts? How many turnovers? no thanks. He's absolutely horrible. 100% guarantee that Bryant finishes a Laker and his last game will be a reg season game.

Kings7
May 29th, 2015, 11:47 AM
Can't go wrong with Towns, Okafor or Russell. But LA Times stated a few days ago that Lakers were going to go big.

I think that Mitch will take a lot of heat from fans if the Lakers don't drastically improve this year - especially if they select a guard (Russell).

mrm55
May 29th, 2015, 11:59 AM
24 points on 40 shot attempts? How many turnovers? no thanks. He's absolutely horrible. 100% guarantee that Bryant finishes a Laker and his last game will be a reg season game.

24 for 40 shots. Post yearly stats to back that up. No making stuff up, ok?

SmytheKing
May 29th, 2015, 12:35 PM
LMAO. That you don't realize top teams buy players for a year to make a run. Totally possible that a team could you use a 24 point per game rental for one year to win a championship. Especially if Lakers eat part of the contract. lol that you don't grasp this reality.

Give me the last time a team purchased a player making 24 million dollars a year with a couple of first round draft picks. Since you said this is "reality", there must be some examples. Also, pretty sure you're not allowed to "eat" any portion of the contract in a trade in the NBA. In case you didn't know (and I'm betting you had no idea), the NBA requires a team over the salary cap to trade assets back within 100k of each other. Considering there are about 5 teams that are currently under the cap in the NBA, and the most that any "contender" is under is 7 million (Atlanta), not ONE team in the NBA could trade for him for a couple of first round picks (as absurd of an idea as that would be anyway). So, who is Atlanta going to trade to the Lakers that comes near 24 million in salary for Kobe Bryant and still remain a contender?

Seriously though, do you have any working knowledge of how the NBA operates or do you just talk a big game?

mrm55
May 29th, 2015, 01:32 PM
Give me the last time a team purchased a player making 24 million dollars a year with a couple of first round draft picks. Since you said this is "reality", there must be some examples. Also, pretty sure you're not allowed to "eat" any portion of the contract in a trade in the NBA. In case you didn't know (and I'm betting you had no idea), the NBA requires a team over the salary cap to trade assets back within 100k of each other. Considering there are about 5 teams that are currently under the cap in the NBA, and the most that any "contender" is under is 7 million (Atlanta), not ONE team in the NBA could trade for him for a couple of first round picks (as absurd of an idea as that would be anyway). So, who is Atlanta going to trade to the Lakers that comes near 24 million in salary for Kobe Bryant and still remain a contender?

Seriously though, do you have any working knowledge of how the NBA operates or do you just talk a big game?

Where did I say someone would do this? Your lack of education has left you with zero reading comprehension.

Find someone else to educate you. You certainly need it.

The only thing you are good at is trolling

SmytheKing
May 29th, 2015, 01:58 PM
Where did I say someone would do this? Your lack of education has left you with zero reading comprehension.

Find someone else to educate you. You certainly need it.

The only thing you are good at is trolling

Uh oh. The "education" card. Let's take a look:

You: I wish a contender would take Kobe and his contract for a couple of first round picks.

Me: That would never happen.

You: You're dumb because it happens and it's possible that a team would take a 24 point a game player for a run. Also, the Lakers could eat some of that contract.

Me: Give me a time where that has ever happened in the history of the league and let me know who (hypothetically) it would be with. Also, the Lakers can't eat any of the contract.

You: You're a troll and I don't have the time to "educate" you.

I'm laughing over here because you've pulled every card out but "You sound a lot like Hitler". You absolutely can't refute anything I've said so you start talking about my education. That's good stuff. I pointed out all sorts of problems with your scenario (that literally would be impossible to do) and you got all bent about it. Sorry that you can't even come up with legitimate ideas. That's not my fault. Though, they probably didn't teach math and stuff at that awesome school that you got "educated" at.

When you grow up and want to actually talk about reality (which you claim I'm the one without the grasp of while coming up with completely asinine scenarios that have no foundation in reality), I'll be here waiting.

Lastly, I never implied that you said someone would do this. That's why I put the "As along as we're playing the 'I wish' game" at the end there. With your superior reading comprehension I thought you'd have figured that out. However, you then went on to talk (again) about absolutes without considering context at all. I ask for one example and you run off and act high and mighty. You're too funny. I bet you're also that guy who complains about contracts and that they should be paid based on incentives each year as well. Those dudes are my favorite.

mrm55
May 29th, 2015, 02:35 PM
Uh oh. The "education" card. Let's take a look:

You: I wish a contender would take Kobe and his contract for a couple of first round picks.

Me: That would never happen.

You: You're dumb because it happens and it's possible that a team would take a 24 point a game player for a run. Also, the Lakers could eat some of that contract.

Me: Give me a time where that has ever happened in the history of the league and let me know who (hypothetically) it would be with. Also, the Lakers can't eat any of the contract.

You: You're a troll and I don't have the time to "educate" you.

I'm laughing over here because you've pulled every card out but "You sound a lot like Hitler". You absolutely can't refute anything I've said so you start talking about my education. That's good stuff. I pointed out all sorts of problems with your scenario (that literally would be impossible to do) and you got all bent about it. Sorry that you can't even come up with legitimate ideas. That's not my fault. Though, they probably didn't teach math and stuff at that awesome school that you got "educated" at.

When you grow up and want to actually talk about reality (which you claim I'm the one without the grasp of while coming up with completely asinine scenarios that have no foundation in reality), I'll be here waiting.

Lastly, I never implied that you said someone would do this. That's why I put the "As along as we're playing the 'I wish' game" at the end there. With your superior reading comprehension I thought you'd have figured that out. However, you then went on to talk (again) about absolutes without considering context at all. I ask for one example and you run off and act high and mighty. You're too funny. I bet you're also that guy who complains about contracts and that they should be paid based on incentives each year as well. Those dudes are my favorite.

I even prefaced my statement with "it isn't going to happen". You really can't read can you? Which is an absolute indicator of a very low IQ. Don't blame me, look to your parents. lol

SmytheKing
May 29th, 2015, 02:51 PM
Uh oh. The "education" card. Let's take a look:

You: I wish a contender would take Kobe and his contract for a couple of first round picks.

Me: That would never happen.

You: You're dumb because it happens and it's possible that a team would take a 24 point a game player for a run. Also, the Lakers could eat some of that contract.

Me: Give me a time where that has ever happened in the history of the league and let me know who (hypothetically) it would be with. Also, the Lakers can't eat any of the contract.

You: You're a troll and I don't have the time to "educate" you.

I'm laughing over here because you've pulled every card out but "You sound a lot like Hitler". You absolutely can't refute anything I've said so you start talking about my education. That's good stuff. I pointed out all sorts of problems with your scenario (that literally would be impossible to do) and you got all bent about it. Sorry that you can't even come up with legitimate ideas. That's not my fault. Though, they probably didn't teach math and stuff at that awesome school that you got "educated" at.

When you grow up and want to actually talk about reality (which you claim I'm the one without the grasp of while coming up with completely asinine scenarios that have no foundation in reality), I'll be here waiting.

Lastly, I never implied that you said someone would do this. That's why I put the "As along as we're playing the 'I wish' game" at the end there. With your superior reading comprehension I thought you'd have figured that out. However, you then went on to talk (again) about absolutes without considering context at all. I ask for one example and you run off and act high and mighty. You're too funny. I bet you're also that guy who complains about contracts and that they should be paid based on incentives each year as well. Those dudes are my favorite.

I even prefaced my statement with "it isn't going to happen". You really can't read can you? Which is an absolute indicator of a very low IQ. Don't blame me, look to your parents. lol

You should look up the definition of "prefaced" if you're going to break out the education line.

Again though, you might need to read my comment about the "I wish" game. It was quite clear to me that you didn't think it was going to happen. I was merely pointing out that it COULDN'T happen, and then said there is no team in the league that would do it even if they could for a couple of picks. You're the one trying to claim it could happen after that.

Basically, if you don't like being laughed at for a stupid thought, stop having them.

mrm55
May 29th, 2015, 03:02 PM
You should look up the definition of "prefaced" if you're going to break out the education line.

Again though, you might need to read my comment about the "I wish" game. It was quite clear to me that you didn't think it was going to happen. I was merely pointing out that it COULDN'T happen, and then said there is no team in the league that would do it even if they could for a couple of picks. You're the one trying to claim it could happen after that.

Basically, if you don't like being laughed at for a stupid thought, stop having them.
That's right you're finally acknowledging it's a wish. Keep having your older brother read to you. You'll see that I said it will never happen.

Sonny you not only are a troll. You're a very s-l-o-w thinking troll.

My suggestion is you enroll in a ESL night course. Really it will teach you to read and you won't look stupid.

SmytheKing
May 29th, 2015, 03:05 PM
That's right you're finally acknowledging it's a wish. Keep having your older brother read to you. You'll see that I said it will never happen.

Sonny you not only are a troll. You're a very s-l-o-w thinking troll.

My suggestion is you enroll in a ESL night course. Really it will teach you to read and you won't look stupid.

Cool. I'm glad you have nothing at all worth reading and just repeat the same stuff without reading anything at all. You should look up the definition of "finally" when you finish reading what "prefaced" means. You'll find you're using both incorrectly.

I'm muting you now so don't bother replying. I'm over seeing your posts.

mrm55
May 29th, 2015, 03:12 PM
Cool. I'm glad you have nothing at all worth reading and just repeat the same stuff without reading anything at all. You should look up the definition of "finally" when you finish reading what "prefaced" means. You'll find you're using both incorrectly.

I'm muting you now so don't bother replying. I'm over seeing your posts.

Thank god you're finally going to quit stalking me.

If you do take that ESL class, don't hesitate to ask me for help.

To reiterate to those with a reading disability. I sure wish somebody would take Kobe and his bloated contract, and give us a couple of number ones. Unfortunately it will never happen.

TooCool
May 30th, 2015, 03:52 PM
Relax guys. Seriously.

SmytheKing
June 3rd, 2015, 03:07 PM
This would be interesting.

http://www.lakersnation.com/lakers-rumors-timberwolves-looking-to-swap-draft-picks/2015/06/03/

I'd freely swap picks if all it took was Nick Young (lol) or one of the other picks. Hell, take Young AND the pick. I would rather the Lakers get Towns than Okafor. I just keep reading so much about Okafor and his deficiencies outside of his (superb) offensive game. Defense is bad. No vertical leap. Flat-footed when having to switch on the pick and roll (or covering for other guys). Can't hit outside 8-10 feet. HORRIBLE FT shooter. Just too many issues there for me to really feel comfortable with him. I'd rather they get one of the guards personally.

Also, this scenario is totally unlikely, but how about this move?

Knicks get: Demarcus Cousins
Sacramento gets: the 2nd overall
Lakers get: the 4th and the 6th

Do the Lakers have to throw in more? Maybe the 27th? Clarkson and the pick? Not sure if I like THAT, but if you could get Mudiay/Russell and Cauley-Stein, Winslow or Lyles does that make it more interesting?

VEGASKING
June 3rd, 2015, 04:06 PM
I don't mind either scenario but no way would I add Clarkson in that deal. He should be starting in the Lakers back court for many years. Ending up with Towns or 2 immediate starters to add to Clarkson and Randle would be amazing.

SmytheKing
June 3rd, 2015, 04:39 PM
I don't mind either scenario but no way would I add Clarkson in that deal. He should be starting in the Lakers back court for many years. Ending up with Towns or 2 immediate starters to add to Clarkson and Randle would be amazing.

Oh sure. Ideally it's not my first choice, but I'm throwing out ideas to maximize the return. I don't think a Nick Young gets you that second deal but maybe just the 27th and the 2nd does. Clarkson is going to probably be your SG in the future so you're looking at needing a PG/C/SF for the next 10 years. I like the idea of getting Winslow and Lyles quite a bit, but I only would entertain Clarkson going if Russell was still there at #4 (http://letsgokings.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=4) .

End of the day though I see the Lakers trying to get Towns or taking Okafor and dealing with it. I just like thinking outside the box and trying to leverage that pick a little.

mrm55
June 4th, 2015, 09:50 AM
I don't mind either scenario but no way would I add Clarkson in that deal. He should be starting in the Lakers back court for many years. Ending up with Towns or 2 immediate starters to add to Clarkson and Randle would be amazing.

Exactly.

Anyone thinking of giving up Clarkson is crazy.

mrm55
June 5th, 2015, 07:31 AM
Salary cap goes to $90,000,000. Lakers can buy a couple of marquee players.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/lakersnow/la-sp-ln-good-news-lakers-salary-cap-90-million-20150604-story.html

Kings7
June 5th, 2015, 05:06 PM
Salary cap goes to $90,000,000. Lakers can buy a couple of marquee players.

Every other NBA team has the same cap, so there's no competitive advantage. Players will be making more money. Today's max deals will seem like bargains in a few years.

mrm55
June 5th, 2015, 06:35 PM
Every other NBA team has the same cap, so there's no competitive advantage. Players will be making more money. Today's max deals will seem like bargains in a few years.

A number of teams never spend to the cap. It is a advantage to big spending teams.

SmytheKing
June 6th, 2015, 03:04 PM
Every other NBA team has the same cap, so there's no competitive advantage. Players will be making more money. Today's max deals will seem like bargains in a few years.

Not to mention every NBA team is REQUIRED to spend, at a minimum, 90% of the cap. Every team in the NBA will have to spend 81 million at least at that point. Four teams are already there and about a dozen are within 7 million of it. The only advantage the Lakers will have is that they don't have much salary tied up when that jump happens. Then again, neither do a lot of teams (http://hoopshype.com/salaries.htm).

VEGASKING
June 7th, 2015, 08:09 PM
Kobe's 25 million dollar contract is coming off the books also. If they don't land a max or near it player this year they can sign 2 or maybe 3 then. Whether or not those guys will sign here is another story.

SmytheKing
June 8th, 2015, 09:24 AM
Kobe's 25 million dollar contract is coming off the books also. If they don't land a max or near it player this year they can sign 2 or maybe 3 then. Whether or not those guys will sign here is another story.

I don't see them pushing too hard for a max guy this year. Unless they pick a guard. There's just a TON of Centers and Power Forwards that they could go after and it wouldn't make sense if you have Randle and Towns/Okafor down low. I wouldn't mind them getting a guy like Deng and Chandler this offseason for two years at most to teach this team some defense though. Getting Aldridge or Love or Gasol doesn't add up though unless they take Russell or Mudiay in the draft. Maybe they try to get Dragic? Him and Chandler wouldn't be too bad an offseason if the contract and term was right. Then make a push for maybe Durant the next season?

Dragic
Clarkson
Durant
Randle
Towns/Okafor

Seems athletic enough (especially with Towns) and decent shooters. Have to get a couple of bench guys to play some solid defense though.

Kings7
June 8th, 2015, 10:52 AM
I think Lakers pick Okafor and sign Rondo, a guy who likes to pass but not shoot. That will give Kobe more opportunities to score points. Lakers FO has made it clear that this year is largely about honoring KB24, giving him a proper sendoff. He's already endorsed Rondo.

There's no guarantee of signing a Big free agent, thus they will pick Okafor (preferably Towns, but I think he's headed to Minnesota).

VEGASKING
June 8th, 2015, 02:14 PM
Russell's stock is rising. He is now in the discussion for the pick. I just don't watch enough college ball to say for sure who to pick if Towns is gone. There are good FA options at guard and forward so it doesn't matter what you draft the other position can be filled via free agency.


I would say hell no to Rondo but it depends on who they draft. If it's a center or forward I might do it for 1 year. The guy is a locker room cancer but as you say he is a pass first guy and Kobe would love that. They can both piss off together after that.

HeadInjury
June 8th, 2015, 04:30 PM
Rondo can still pass, but he's not good on defense anymore. His shooting is atrocious. He's 31.4% from the 3 and an impossibly bad 39.7% from the free throw line. He's not the answer.

mrm55
June 8th, 2015, 05:04 PM
Superb write up on Towns:

"...It was well known that Towns had skills beyond what he showed at Kentucky, particularly a solid outside shot, but when video of a recent workout hit the web showing him effortlessly draining NBA threes, dribbling through his legs, and dunking like the rim insulted his mother .... well, everyone went a little crazy.

Bigs aren't supposed to be able to do the things he can do. Off-the-dribble, step-back threes from a guy who is seven feet tall and a historically great defensive player at the college level? Ridiculous. Overnight, Towns went from being considered a fantastic prospect to the next Anthony Davis-level superstar...."


http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2015/6/8/8740071/la-lakers-draft-jahlil-okafor-nba-2015

SmytheKing
June 8th, 2015, 08:17 PM
Russell's stock is rising. He is now in the discussion for the pick. I just don't watch enough college ball to say for sure who to pick if Towns is gone. There are good FA options at guard and forward so it doesn't matter what you draft the other position can be filled via free agency.


I would say hell no to Rondo but it depends on who they draft. If it's a center or forward I might do it for 1 year. The guy is a locker room cancer but as you say he is a pass first guy and Kobe would love that. They can both piss off together after that.


Rondo can still pass, but he's not good on defense anymore. His shooting is atrocious. He's 31.4% from the 3 and an impossibly bad 39.7% from the free throw line. He's not the answer.

Yeah I pray they don't sign Rondo. There is nothing good that will come of that. Even for one year. It's just a waste of money and development for the young players. I'd rather they bring back Derek Fisher for a year and give him 10 million.

I think the pick is going to come down to who has the best workouts and what sort of style they want to play. If you want a guard that's got a playstyle like John Wall, you get Russell. He's got great vision, he's big, and he's got a decent shot. He's not as athletic as Mudiay, but he's a more prepared player. You want ceiling, you go with Mudiay. You want a low-post offensive player that doesn't quite have the skill to protect the rim, you get Okafor.

TooCool
June 10th, 2015, 10:30 AM
I don't know why but I'm starting to warm up more and more to Okafor as he works out for the Lakers.

SmytheKing
June 10th, 2015, 10:51 AM
I don't know why but I'm starting to warm up more and more to Okafor as he works out for the Lakers.

I think it's what he says and the fact that a lot of us are presuming he's going to be the guy they pick. He's certainly going to be a good player so it's hard to be upset about getting him.

mrm55
June 10th, 2015, 12:58 PM
I don't know why but I'm starting to warm up more and more to Okafor as he works out for the Lakers.
According to Chris Mannix of Sports Illustrated, Okafor being drafted to the Lakers appears to be a foregone conclusion:


The Lakers are going through the motions with other draft prospects?D?Angelo Russell and Emmanuel Mudiay have been in for workouts?but multiple league sources say L.A. is locked in on Okafor. Despite being overtaken by Towns, scouts still see Okafor as a franchise center?one with an enormous upside.

Kings7
June 12th, 2015, 10:38 PM
Rondo can still pass, but he's not good on defense anymore. His shooting is atrocious. He's 31.4% from the 3 and an impossibly bad 39.7% from the free throw line. He's not the answer.

Wow, I didn't realize he's a horrible FT shooter as well. His 3PT % is pretty bad but actually I think Kobe was right around that mark this past season.

The point here is that Rondo will NOT be shooting much - he will be passing the ball to Kobe so he can shoot a high volume. Rondo looks good on the assists, Kobe looks good on the points. Fans LOVE it when Kobe scores! Also read something very recently about Kobe & Rondo doing a little movie trailer together (or something like that). Will be really surprised if Rondo doesn't land in LA.

SmytheKing
June 13th, 2015, 08:05 PM
Wow, I didn't realize he's a horrible FT shooter as well. His 3PT % is pretty bad but actually I think Kobe was right around that mark this past season.

The point here is that Rondo will NOT be shooting much - he will be passing the ball to Kobe so he can shoot a high volume. Rondo looks good on the assists, Kobe looks good on the points. Fans LOVE it when Kobe scores! Also read something very recently about Kobe & Rondo doing a little movie trailer together (or something like that). Will be really surprised if Rondo doesn't land in LA.

Honestly I'll be shocked if Kobe plays more than 50 games this year. There's a reason he's played like 40 over the past three years and it ain't bad luck. I fully expect his knee to go out this year at some point. He's broken. If the Lakers sign Rondo to anything more than a 1 year deal, Jim Buss is going to be turning in a letter of resignation. This year should be about Clarkson, Randle, and whoever they go with at #2 (http://letsgokings.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2) with Kobe helping them work in practice and playing about 20 minutes a game. It won't be, but it should be. It's time to let the future start.