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aaron
February 3rd, 2016, 04:51 PM
After reading the murder stats for Chicago in the "Bizarre and Wtf" thread, my first thought was they need to drop a few tons of weed around and chill the F--- out.

But I maybe I'm wrong about that. And I'm not really interested in the right or wrong politics. I just want to know what, if any, effects police experience.

So I ask you, LGK Law Enforcement persons, how has the pseudo-legalization effected your job? Has it made a difference in your day to day interactions?
Has dui marijuana become rampant? Is it in addition to other dui substances, or replacing them?

jccawdrey
February 5th, 2016, 03:29 PM
OK, since I have been retired or partially as I still am active as a Reserve Deputy, here's my thoughts.
The so called legalization (medical marijuana) has had these effects on society through my most recent experiences. It has to be "recommended" not prescribed as many think, to just about anyone who goes to a Dr and asks for it, i.e. a waitress who spend 8 hours a day on her feet, a 21 year old male who had no problem sprinting up a flight of stairs to make his purchase close to closing time at a dispensary for his chronic back problems, too many to mention for stress, you name it.
The point here is the Dr makes about $50.00 to recommend it (Rx charge). When they first started, it was $100.00 for an annual Rx, then it was changed to quarterly so the Drs doubled up.
The two big ones I have seen, is it is being purchased by certain people over the age on 21 and being resold to teenagers, and the dispensary owners have been skimming off the top, i.e. a baggie selling for $50.00 all of a sudden becomes 75 or 100 shortly before closing time. Only the original 50 is on the books. We served search warrants at a dispensary and an owners home at the same time finding over 600 thousand in unaccounted for cash at the home, and over 100 thousand on site.
Anyone can do the math here
The amazing part is that if Cal went into the business legally, we could clear up our state's debt and have a huge pot (no pun intended) to do whatever we needed to do. It is still our largest cash crop.
Now when I was working Narco in the early 80s, the T.H.C. content was less than 10%. Today, thanks to all of our chemistry majors, that content exceeds 35%. Better things for better living through chemistry.
Meth and the designer drugs that show up in the streets, are the biggest problem as far as violent acts and violence in general is concerned.
Never worked traffic so I'm not up to speed on the dui related problems with weed. Don't hesitate to PM me if you need a question answered

Homer Simpson
February 5th, 2016, 06:03 PM
Damn, I need to get in the weed selling business.

aaron
February 5th, 2016, 09:23 PM
Ty JC.
Interesting about it still having under the table elements. Never heard or thought about that. I just assumed that since it's so easy to get a card, it's become essentially legal and that type of monkey business would fade away.

jccawdrey
February 7th, 2016, 10:26 AM
Ty JC.
Interesting about it still having under the table elements. Never heard or thought about that. I just assumed that since it's so easy to get a card, it's become essentially legal and that type of monkey business would fade away. Until the Feds legalize it, this b.s. will continue. You do know that each of the states that have legalized still can't do business with a bank. They are Federally insured and it's against the Federal law, so they have to deal with cash, a lot of cash. So do you think there would be the slightest possibility that maybe, just maybe some of that cash will suddenly disappear? Not to mention the problem the neighboring states are having from the traffic to and from

RockPile
February 7th, 2016, 12:44 PM
Damn, I need to get in the weed selling business.

Remember the recent prison escapees? One of them was in for mutilating a dispensary owner in the worst way.
http://mynewsla.com/orange-county/2016/02/02/oc-escaped-inmate-faces-trial-but-for-charges-of-sexual-mutilation-of-marijuana-dispensary-owner/

People will assume you have cash stashed. You'd have to spend a lot of that cash to stay safe 24/7.

jccawdrey
February 7th, 2016, 02:03 PM
People will assume you have cash stashed. Thank you for reminding me. Quite a few of these home invasion robberies are tied to dispensary owners. Someone gets an "inside tip" that cash is being stored in the house.

Homer Simpson
February 8th, 2016, 11:36 AM
Remember the recent prison escapees? One of them was in for mutilating a dispensary owner in the worst way.
http://mynewsla.com/orange-county/2016/02/02/oc-escaped-inmate-faces-trial-but-for-charges-of-sexual-mutilation-of-marijuana-dispensary-owner/

People will assume you have cash stashed. You'd have to spend a lot of that cash to stay safe 24/7.

My weed shop will be called KingsJohn and Tonga's Weed Haven, I will never be seen.

RockPile
February 8th, 2016, 12:45 PM
My weed shop will be called KingsJohn and Tonga's Weed Haven, I will never be seen.

Tonga will drink the profits.

job
February 9th, 2016, 01:32 PM
The amazing part is that if Cal went into the business legally, we could clear up our state's debt and have a huge pot (no pun intended) to do whatever we needed to do. It is still our largest cash crop.

This. And it would work just as well on a national level.

jccawdrey
February 14th, 2016, 02:13 PM
Big article in the L.A. Times rag today on the pot business. The author did mention, and only mention, about pot being a gateway drug. I do know that over half (most likely higher) of whom have smoked or imbibed, have tried a stronger drug after marijuana. I am NOT saying they are addicted here, just stating a fact. The actual research says that the edibles are the most effective for pain. Some say that smoking only get you so ****ed up that you forget the pain.

aaron
February 14th, 2016, 04:42 PM
I pity the fool who goes straight to meth.

VF
February 14th, 2016, 05:42 PM
The author did mention, and only mention, about pot being a gateway drug. I do know that over half (most likely higher) of whom have smoked or imbibed, have tried a stronger drug after marijuana.

Over half of those who have tried milk have also moved on to stronger drinks such as coffee or alcohol. Milk is a gateway beverage.

jammer06
February 15th, 2016, 09:55 AM
Over half of those who have tried milk have also moved on to stronger drinks such as coffee or alcohol. Milk is a gateway beverage.

Speaking as a Lactose intolerant individual...Milk will **** you up!

jccawdrey
February 15th, 2016, 02:11 PM
I have yet to see a TetraHydroCannibinol intolerant individual. But there may be some

lunchbox
February 15th, 2016, 03:05 PM
I have yet to see a TetraHydroCannibinol intolerant individual. But there may be some

what about people who eat thc laced brownies in amsterdam, freak out, strip down and attempt to run out into the street completely naked and screaming about whatever it was that was after him?

happened to an acquaintance of mine. his wife was totally unaffected but he was either new to it in general or intolerant of that particular strain. she had to do everything she could to not get him arrested or make a complete fool of himself while they were vacationing.

aaron
February 15th, 2016, 03:51 PM
JC,
Have you run into anyone tripping out on edibles?
Actually, how often do you run into people who are 'altered' to the point of incoherence?
Percentage breakdown of causes?

jccawdrey
February 15th, 2016, 04:49 PM
Again, I have yet to see a marijuana or heroin freak out. I have no idea what could have been in the brownie, especially in a foreign country. Too many to list on L.S.D., P.C.P., Coke, and the assorted pills so frequently used. With the downers, most go "on the nod" i.e. looking like they are barely awake, heavy droopy eyelids, drooling, bloodshot watery eyes, etc. With the uppers, you can NEVER tell. I actually had a guy on P.C.P. who stripped down (they get extremely overheated) to bare a$$ and was punching car windshields travelling down a major east/west street with his bare hands. Finally got (herded) him into an AM/PM parking lot where he attacked my partner. I've seen 100's so screwed up on P.C.P. and coke they didn't know who they were, where they lived, etc
I had a guy freak out at the Grateful Dead concert at The Dominguez Hills college venue about 4 hours before the concert was to start. He was one of the set up guys. He went running around naked, screaming, trying to tear things down. We finally got him subdued and got him over to the "Pig Pen" Yes, that was the name of the area for the medical people trying to deal with L.S.D. o.d.s
In my day, the most "ideal" time for lack of a better term, was in the summer, on a Friday or Saturday night, WARM, and right after the welfare checks came out. A lot of Deps also said it was a full moon. True statement

orpheus
February 16th, 2016, 04:12 PM
what about people who eat thc laced brownies in amsterdam, freak out, strip down and attempt to run out into the street completely naked and screaming about whatever it was that was after him?

happened to an acquaintance of mine. his wife was totally unaffected but he was either new to it in general or intolerant of that particular strain. she had to do everything she could to not get him arrested or make a complete fool of himself while they were vacationing.

I am not into pot or hookers, but man, if I ever visit Amsterdam, I'll be Red Zonin', Pot Brownie Eatin', and Wooded Shoe Dancin' like nobody's bussiness! :awesome:

Birdman
February 16th, 2016, 05:01 PM
I am not into pot or hookers, but man, if I ever visit Amsterdam, I'll be Red Zonin', Pot Brownie Eatin', and Wooded Shoe Dancin' like nobody's bussiness! :awesome:

Opiated Temple Balls....

bad91
February 26th, 2016, 04:56 PM
After reading the murder stats for Chicago in the "Bizarre and Wtf" thread, my first thought was they need to drop a few tons of weed around and chill the F--- out.

But I maybe I'm wrong about that. And I'm not really interested in the right or wrong politics. I just want to know what, if any, effects police experience.

So I ask you, LGK Law Enforcement persons, how has the pseudo-legalization effected your job? Has it made a difference in your day to day interactions?
Has dui marijuana become rampant? Is it in addition to other dui substances, or replacing them?


Ok first off... i want to preface that I know Homer Simps probably longer than anyone on here, and he is an complete idiot.

Secondly, I work in the industry and I specifically work in this particular detail. Again, I could careless what anyone does in their personal life. It's your life. But when I am working, I am doing my job. I dont like drugs and never have.

Prop 47 has screwed up everything. Simple possession for heroin, coke, pcp, meth, etc.. is only a misdemeanor.....You see more POS are on the streets and more are stealing your personal belongs and quite possibly your identity. Regardless, the great voters of CA passed this law.

As for the marijuana issue, a few things. Yes, you still see a ton of it. Your internet doctors or witch doctors recommendation does not really mean *****. You will most likely still get a tix for possession and have your "medical" marijuana taken away. There is only ONE way that this can happen. Get a County Recommendation card, Look it up on the County website. I have only seen ONE card during my tenure. You have to go to a "real" doctor and have a "real" symptom in order to get this card. So you need a SERIOUS MEDICAL CONDITION....having an ear ache or not being able to perform in bed is not a serious medical condition. On a sidenote, I have been ordered to return marijuana back to people with the bogus recommendations. Unfortunately, I would be breaking federal law by furnishing you drugs. So if anyone returns their marijuana back it will be by the judge that orders it.

As for marijuana and Dui's, they have gone up substantially. Thanx God I have not seen many fatality ones. DUI's suck and just friggen walk or take Uber.

Lastly, I am sure a lot of people use wax. That is just plain stupid. Yes, you get a better and quicker high but you are basically smoking poison. So suit yourself. That crap will mess you up. If not now, in the future. Trust me. Ive seen it.

I am just giving my insight. Again, I dont care if you party or not. At least if you do, do it responsibly where you are not going to hurt anyone. If you are caught, just accept it and dont give the cops a hard time. They are only doing their job. Decides good stoners dont get caught with their crap anyways.

So long and good luck all.
Shut up Homer I dont want to hear it.

NobleSavage
February 27th, 2016, 07:02 AM
An complete idiot?
Not a moran, just an idoit?

Homer Simpson
March 5th, 2016, 10:00 AM
Ok first off... i want to preface that I know Homer Simps probably longer than anyone on here, and he is an complete idiot.

Secondly, I work in the industry and I specifically work in this particular detail. Again, I could careless what anyone does in their personal life. It's your life. But when I am working, I am doing my job. I dont like drugs and never have.

Prop 47 has screwed up everything. Simple possession for heroin, coke, pcp, meth, etc.. is only a misdemeanor.....You see more POS are on the streets and more are stealing your personal belongs and quite possibly your identity. Regardless, the great voters of CA passed this law.

As for the marijuana issue, a few things. Yes, you still see a ton of it. Your internet doctors or witch doctors recommendation does not really mean *****. You will most likely still get a tix for possession and have your "medical" marijuana taken away. There is only ONE way that this can happen. Get a County Recommendation card, Look it up on the County website. I have only seen ONE card during my tenure. You have to go to a "real" doctor and have a "real" symptom in order to get this card. So you need a SERIOUS MEDICAL CONDITION....having an ear ache or not being able to perform in bed is not a serious medical condition. On a sidenote, I have been ordered to return marijuana back to people with the bogus recommendations. Unfortunately, I would be breaking federal law by furnishing you drugs. So if anyone returns their marijuana back it will be by the judge that orders it.

As for marijuana and Dui's, they have gone up substantially. Thanx God I have not seen many fatality ones. DUI's suck and just friggen walk or take Uber.

Lastly, I am sure a lot of people use wax. That is just plain stupid. Yes, you get a better and quicker high but you are basically smoking poison. So suit yourself. That crap will mess you up. If not now, in the future. Trust me. Ive seen it.

I am just giving my insight. Again, I dont care if you party or not. At least if you do, do it responsibly where you are not going to hurt anyone. If you are caught, just accept it and dont give the cops a hard time. They are only doing their job. Decides good stoners dont get caught with their crap anyways.

So long and good luck all.
Shut up Homer I dont want to hear it.

That Homer Simps guys must be a real idiot.

Anyway I smoke bath salts so i should be ok.

orpheus
March 5th, 2016, 06:20 PM
I disagree.

Homer is a delightful fella.

Sorry 'bout that salmonella. :homer:

jccawdrey
March 6th, 2016, 11:36 AM
Prop 47 has screwed up everything. Simple possession for heroin, coke, pcp, meth, etc.. is only a misdemeanor.....You see more POS are on the streets and more are stealing your personal belongs and quite possibly your identity. Regardless, the great voters of CA passed this law. Completely agree with this. This prop was not thought all the way through and CA voters were sold a bill of goods. The only good side of this is that they kept any 290 (registered sex offender) off the "we forgive you list" so they are still somewhat controlled. BTW, you might be wondering how long a "bad test" will remain in your system. If you are overweight and smoke it regularly, a bad test will happen for at least 2-3 weeks AFTER you stop smoking. I have seen bad tests go up to 30 days, but the guy was a throwback from the 60's, heavy and smoked it several times a day. The THC content again is the key

davethehammer
April 12th, 2016, 03:25 PM
right next to each other in Salem oregon.
I bet french fries profits go up a cople times a week

http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb416/markgoldburg/shop_zpsd28qlkqy.jpg?t=1459664145

http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb416/markgoldburg/burger_zpsbrqdv7yd.jpg?t=1459664142

orpheus
April 13th, 2016, 10:47 AM
Too bad it wasn't next to a Burger King. They could've revived the "I Love This Joint" campaign. mhihi: :banasmoke:

jccawdrey
May 8th, 2016, 06:21 PM
I just received the Spring 2016 issue of the California Narcotics Officer (C.N.O.A) magazine. There are some stats that might help answer the original question. In the calendar year 2013-2014, the increase in Drug-positive drivers on weekend nights, increased to 22.5% from the prior year. Those arrested for Prescription meds DUI (legal meds) in 2007 was at 3.9%. In 2013-2014 it was at 4.9%. Illegal drugs arrests for DUI in 2007 were at 12.4%, and at 15.1% in 2013-2014. Marijuana arrests for DUI in 2007 was 8.6% and at 12.6% in 2013-2014. So the short answer is yes.
Something that really jumped out at me in this article, is that Ca statute 23152 (c) prohibits a drug addict or habitual user to drive a vehicle in Ca. 5 states, CA, Colorado, Idaho, Kansas, and West Virginia have this same statue in effect.
The source is the 2013-2014 National Roadside Survey of Alcohol and Drug Use by Drivers. National Highway Traffic Safety Admin

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February 6th, 2020, 03:52 PM
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