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mitchrock
August 3rd, 2019, 06:41 PM
With AEW about to kickoff on TNT next month, thought I start its own thread. They first few events have been great. Cannot wait to see them grow. Hope they learned from WCW's mistakes.

ucsdguy1
August 4th, 2019, 01:10 PM
Worth it to just make one big pro wrestling thread?

mitchrock
August 6th, 2019, 05:57 AM
I'd like to keep this separate. Will be easier to keep track of each company's stories.

CIrvine
August 6th, 2019, 10:19 PM
Yeah. I stopped watching the WWE a few months ago.

TooCool
August 8th, 2019, 07:05 AM
I'd like to keep this separate. Will be easier to keep track of each company's stories.

Good idea. It should be interesting.

Honestly, I think they need to set up a WWE Network kind of thing as soon as possible. Granted, they'll have no library to work with but as for PPV pricing, I don't think it's reasonable at all in this day and age to charge like $50-60 for a show when WWE does it for 10 bucks. I'm sure their argument will be that they'll only have like 4 PPVs a year so they can charge that much. But we'll see.

LetTigerIn
August 9th, 2019, 01:38 PM
Since we're in the AEW thread, I just want to take a moment to say there have been some tremendous matches in the NJPW G1 Climax tournament.

ucsdguy1
August 9th, 2019, 04:41 PM
So AEW is promoting a 6 man tag match for their first TNT show: Young Bucks/Omega vs. Jericho/2 mystery partners. Thoughts on partners? I was trying to figure out when Revival's contracts would be up but I think they go at least until next Wrestlemania.

Also supposedly crowning the first women's champ on that show. Side note: I had no idea Britt Baker was in a relationship with Adam Cole.

mitchrock
August 11th, 2019, 10:59 AM
So AEW is promoting a 6 man tag match for their first TNT show: Young Bucks/Omega vs. Jericho/2 mystery partners. Thoughts on partners? I was trying to figure out when Revival's contracts would be up but I think they go at least until next Wrestlemania.

Also supposedly crowning the first women's champ on that show. Side note: I had no idea Britt Baker was in a relationship with Adam Cole.

I wonder if Y2J will have some former WWE's as partners/

TooCool
August 27th, 2019, 07:50 AM
Sucks that Moxley is out of the PPV with elbow issues. (Is it the same one he had in WWE with the infection??)

Either way, at least they can revisit that feud once AEW is established on TV. Might be better to be honest. PAC (Neville) as the replacement is great though.

mitchrock
August 29th, 2019, 09:04 PM
Since we're in the AEW thread, I just want to take a moment to say there have been some tremendous matches in the NJPW G1 Climax tournament.

Yes there have. Love Juice Robinson. He is awesome.

mitchrock
August 29th, 2019, 09:05 PM
Glad to see Dustin Rhodes got a Multi-Year deal with AEW. Didn't want him to retire.

TooCool
August 31st, 2019, 09:58 PM
Luchasaurus might be my new favorite wrestler in AEW.

https://streamable.com/77pmf

So damn agile for a big dude!

ucsdguy1
September 1st, 2019, 07:50 AM
Luchasaurus might be my new favorite wrestler in AEW.

https://streamable.com/77pmf

So damn agile for a big dude!
I wacthed a highlight segment of All Out on youtube this morning. This is probably how I'm going to have to follow their ppv's as I have no desire to pay $49.99 for individual shows. I also realize there's a lot of talent I just don't know a lot about. The weekly show will have to do a lot to build up why I should care, which I have confidence they will do.


Totally agree on Luchasaurus. He is the perfect "hot tag" and is quite the agile guy for his size. Between his "soft" chops on Dreamer at the last battle royal and last night, I'm also pretty sure Orange Cassidy might be one of my favorite new guys too. Pac/Omega, damn. Both guys sell moves where it appears pretty much every move they do could cause serious damage. Surprised Omega lost after Pac was a replacement, but could set Pac up to be a top heel. Young Bucks and Pentagon/Fenix had all the high spots, and there were many. But the fans seemed to completely eat it up.

Oh and I am definitely not down with paper cuts.

ucsdguy1
September 1st, 2019, 07:51 AM
Luchasaurus might be my new favorite wrestler in AEW.

https://streamable.com/77pmf

So damn agile for a big dude!
I wacthed a highlight segment of All Out on youtube this morning. This is probably how I'm going to have to follow their ppv's as I have no desire to pay $49.99 for individual shows. I also realize there's a lot of talent I just don't know a lot about. The weekly show will have to do a lot to build up why I should care, which I have confidence they will do.

Totally agree on Luchasaurus. He is the perfect "hot tag" and is quite the agile guy for his size. Between his "soft" chops on Dreamer at the last battle royal and last night, I'm pretty sure Orange Cassidy might be one of my favorite new guys too. Pac/Omega, damn. Both guys sell moves where it appears pretty much every move they do could cause serious damage. Surprised Omega lost after Pac was a replacement, but could set Pac up to be a top heel. Young Bucks and Pentagon/Fenix had all the high spots, and there were many. But the fans seemed to completely eat it up. Welcome to Wednesday Night Dynamite is Jericho?

Oh and I am definitely not down with paper cuts.

ucsdguy1
October 3rd, 2019, 12:33 PM
Thoughts on the first show? Not enough Luchasaurus?

I don't think it was groundbreaking but did have quite the good wrestling. And good matches at that (that Riho/Rose match, Rhodes/Guevara with insanely hot crowd, pac/page, and final 6 man tag, damn).

Between that and NXT there was some solid, solid wrestling on last night. I do however not like the split screen with commercials during matches.

mitchrock
October 3rd, 2019, 05:52 PM
Good first show. MFJ was hilarious on the mic as he walked to the ring. The ending was meh. Jack Swagger is not a guy I get all psyched to see. A b level talent. Jericho is doing a great job as a heel. Cannot wait til next week.

TooCool
October 3rd, 2019, 08:03 PM
I thought it was a pretty good show. Great pacing overall. I especially liked the overhead camera angle that panned through the crowd during the ring entrances. I also liked how they gave the wrestlers their full entrances and then went to commercial break.

- First match was pretty decent between Cody and Sammy Guevara. I thought maybe the pacing felt a little slow to boot as they were going for those near-fall facial reactions way too early. I know nothing of Sammy so it was good to showcase him like that.

- MJF vs Brandon Cutler. I have no idea who Cutler is but he looks like a very generic dude with no future. (Maybe too harsh? lol) Either way, an expected win for MJF and that's fine by me.

- Then I think the next segment was a bunch of Tag Teams getting some mic time. That's alright. I don't know anything about any of them. I just know Jack Evans and Angelico from Lucha Underground and they're freaking great. Private Party feels like a Street Profits clone to me though to be fair I don't know who came up with the gimmick first.

- PAC vs "Hangman" Adam Page - I enjoyed this match. This is the kind of wrestling I'm fully expecting from most of the AEW staff. I'm not sold on Adam Page yet so hopefully he'll grow on me.

- AEW Women's Championship Match: Riho vs Nyla Rose - What the hell was up with Britt Baker on commentary? She felt so disengaged and couldn't answer many questions from JR and Tony. Very bizarre. The match itself was okay but it told the story just fine. People bagged on Nyla Rose mostly being sloppy during that Battle Royale but I think she was okay here. Putting the title on Riho is a good start.

- Kenny Omega & Young Bucks vs Chirs Jericho, Santana, and Ortiz - I really love Jericho's music and The Elite's music was super catchy. Loved Jon Moxley's appearance here and I don't know why but I liked how he took out Omega early. You don't want to give too much of Kenny Omega away on TV yet and it builds their feud at the same time. The Young Bucks sure have a lot of flashy moves so that's fun. Jericho's wrestling was also very limited in this 1st episode and that's okay with me.

- I loved Jake Hager making an appearance. I'll have to disagree with Mitchrock here as I was a huge fan of him in WWE. I just think he was very poorly booked during his WWE run (no surprise there). Now he looks more buff and fit from MMA so there's that.

Overall, very decent first episode and they didn't even use Luchasaurus and Shawn Spears. I'm sure they will have a lot more surprises in store and that's all we can ask for.


I do however not like the split screen with commercials during matches.

Oh man, speaking of which I did think having Jericho attack Cody throughout that commercial break while on split screen was a mistake. I know most of it was just to kill time as Jericho was mainly prancing around the ring and whatnot, but what a terrible idea to use that as a split screen commercial segment.

LetTigerIn
October 4th, 2019, 10:00 AM
Swagger's heyday was probably back when I was hardly watching any wrestling. Still, I'm with TooCool on this one, which is to say, I'm a fan of his. I couldn't/can't understand why this guy wasn't a bigger star than he was/is. He's got the size, amateur wrestling background, and now MMA cred as well, which puts him way ahead of the curve. Bottom line, I guess, is it's entertainment, so if you're not filling houses or getting viewers to tune in, even great credentials will eventually determine your limits.

ucsdguy1
October 4th, 2019, 11:10 AM
AEW shirts are expensive much like wwe. But looks like I can get them at hot topic now: https://www.allelitewrestling.com/post/all-elite-wrestling-announces-retail-partnership-with-hot-topic

ucsdguy1
October 17th, 2019, 11:08 AM
By gawd Darby Allin had no business doing what he was doing with his arms taped behind his back.

TooCool
October 17th, 2019, 01:48 PM
By gawd Darby Allin had no business doing what he was doing with his arms taped behind his back.

Man that was a great match. A Tag Team heavy show but once in awhile I think it's okay.

For the main event, Jericho did a hell of a job putting Darby over. Enough believable nearfalls and also allowed Darby to showcase his stuff, especially while handcuffed. He even needed Hager's "help" to retain so that's cool.

Honestly, the only weak part about AEW by a mile is the Women's Division. Everyone just feels really green when they're in the ring.

ucsdguy1
October 17th, 2019, 03:38 PM
Man that was a great match. A Tag Team heavy show but once in awhile I think it's okay.

For the main event, Jericho did a hell of a job putting Darby over. Enough believable nearfalls and also allowed Darby to showcase his stuff, especially while handcuffed. He even needed Hager's "help" to retain so that's cool.

Honestly, the only weak part about AEW by a mile is the Women's Division. Everyone just feels really green when they're in the ring.
Agreed, although I thought the Riho/Baker match was pretty good. Maybe a bit sloppy in parts but for the most part both came off well. I was reading earlier Baker is still working as a dentist 4 days a week, and AEW is letting her fly to the weekly shows either tuesday night or wednesday morning then fly back after. Insane.

mitchrock
October 17th, 2019, 05:38 PM
Found out via Twitter, you can watch AEW Dark on YouTube. Loving it!

ucsdguy1
November 11th, 2019, 09:43 AM
I text a good buddy of mine yesterday pleading he never go MJF on me.

Only saw highlights online, but that Omega/Moxley match geez.....I mean that was something.

TooCool
November 13th, 2019, 09:14 AM
I text a good buddy of mine yesterday pleading he never go MJF on me.

Only saw highlights online, but that Omega/Moxley match geez.....I mean that was something.

I caught some of the Full Gear PPV. Couldn't justify shelling out $50 for these PPVs though.. they really need to come up with a price similar to the WWE Network if they want my $$$. But I did find a really good stream of it... ;)

Adam Page vs PAC was fun. They really put over PAC's record well but I think too many stars are starting off around .500 which doesn't seem too impressive. They still haven't exactly explained what the standings mean in the long run or why we should care though.

Which leads me to my next point which happened to be the next match with Shawn Spears vs Joey Janela. Shawn Spears was previously 0-2. Right before the PPV, they quickly had him win 2 matches on AEW dark to make him 2-2 so he doesn't go into the PPV still winless. And I guess on AEW Dark he had a mini feud with Janela? Either way, they didn't really bring it up during the PPV or why they were even having the match. AEW needs to do better there.

- AEW Triple Threat Tag Title match - Great match. I fully expected SCU to retain since they recently won. I really love the Lucha Bros since I know them from Lucha Underground. The tag division is one of their bright spots as long as AEW continue to let them work longer matches.

- AEW Women's Title match - Riho is a good wrestler but overall their women's division is extremely weak. It was not good that they had her defend it against Emi Sakura with zero buildup. Then they tried to hype the match up via Twitter. Kenny Omega even posted a bunch of history between Riho and Sakura and fans were replying with "Why did you mention ANY of this on TV?" So far AEW has been extremely good with feedback so I would expect that they would listen and improve.

- Jericho vs Cody - Holy pyro fest for both dudes. I also really love Cody and Jericho's theme music. Another really good one is Darby Allin's and Jon Moxley's entrance music. They supposedly had 3 judges that will decide the result should the match go 60 minutes. So I immediately assumed they were going 60. But thankfully it only went 29 minutes. Cody did himself no favors by hurting himself with that dive onto the ramp. (I remember WCW did that ramp that went all the way to the ring in previous PPVs and I was never a fan of that.) All I can say is that is was a damn good match with great buildup. Now Cody will have his loophole of never challenging for the AEW title if he lost. He can have a huge feud with MJF in the meantime. The only problem is that there aren't many babyfaces to go up against Jericho. I'm thinking maybe AEW isn't going to care about a heel vs heel match. If Moxley or PAC or whoever has a good record, they can face Jericho regardless.

- Moxley vs Omega - This unsanctioned match was insane. I've had time to process it but I still don't know what to think. I liked it and didn't hate it. That's the best response I can give. I liked the big spots and how brutal it was. What I didn't like was that everything was too planned out. Here's all the things I can remember them using.

Barbed wired Bat
Barbed wired Broom
Table
Trash can
Mouse trapped table
Screwdriver
Broken Glass
Barbed ware fence thing they had a double suplex on
Stage
Hardwood floor after ring is torn apart

So while it was great that it was disgusting, all the near falls was a bit much. However, I was insanely entertained through all of it so that's a win. I can't imagine that Renee Young liked it though. She was probably thinking "Yeah, this isn't what I want my husband to do at all."

ucsdguy1
December 5th, 2019, 09:42 AM
This is not that list. It's the Lexicon of Le Champione...

I freely admit, I bought 2 bottles of A Little Bit of the Bubbly this weekend... https://nockingpointwines.com/product/bubbly/

And the marginalizing of dinosaurs? A+ Luchasaurus..

Also:

https://scontent-den4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/76714067_10219939740019969_8141340998987939840_n.j pg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_ohc=KLcF2Ps-gb8AQmjPpgDsmlK57Eknbjjv2GHjWuE25-G6CgUZZ5lEzpohQ&_nc_ht=scontent-den4-1.xx&oh=5ad7a0d31d5aaa45cbb82270b19cb0b0&oe=5E761D0E

TooCool
December 5th, 2019, 03:11 PM
I almost pulled the trigger on Jericho's Le Champion shirt during the Black Friday sale when it was 25% off + his 50 cent coupon code. :lol: I didn't. :(

CIrvine
December 6th, 2019, 08:49 AM
Will AEW ever let "Professional" Peter Avalon get any offence in?

TooCool
January 3rd, 2020, 09:58 AM
I'm a fan of Hikaru Shida after that 4 way match on AEW. She put on one hell of a match. Riho stealing wins and making Britt Baker turn heel maybe is interesting.

When the hell is Jake Hager going to wrestle? I knew he couldn't when he had that MMA fight but that match is over with now isn't it?

The biggest thing AEW has done right IMO is developing MJF and Sammy Guevara.

ucsdguy1
January 8th, 2020, 02:25 PM
I'm a fan of Hikaru Shida after that 4 way match on AEW. She put on one hell of a match. Riho stealing wins and making Britt Baker turn heel maybe is interesting.

When the hell is Jake Hager going to wrestle? I knew he couldn't when he had that MMA fight but that match is over with now isn't it?

The biggest thing AEW has done right IMO is developing MJF and Sammy Guevara.
Agreed but Guevara has to start winning again soon right?

MJF is so good on the mic

ucsdguy1
January 9th, 2020, 01:24 PM
Agreed but Guevara has to start winning again soon right?

MJF is so good on the mic

I stand corrected.

And why would Moxley waste a perfectly good bottle of the bubbly?? :)

Pretty funny though. “I was just kidding. I would never join the inner circle, it’s a stupid group”

ucsdguy1
January 16th, 2020, 10:07 AM
AEW "Bash at the Beach" thoughts -

1. Cody is so good on the mic. He can strike an emotional chord with anyone.
2. My favorite signs of the night: (a) "I was at MJF's Bar Mitzvah" (b) "Cassidy for Pres 2020"
3. Holy heck there were some good matches. That 4 way tag match was spot after spot after spot. They are brilliantly setting up Page turning on Omega. Not sure if it'll happen in the tag title match or after they potentially win the titles, but it's going down. And fan support for Page is there, there are Hangman drink my beer" signs everywhere. Guevara once again puts on a great match, but loses. And he tapped out quickly. If the inner circle was going to brutally attack Moxley, why not do it before the match ends and save Guevara from a clean loss? Allin can pretty much have a good match with anyone, just wish he'd also win a few more. It was pretty obvious Pac was going to win. He may beat Moxley next week either from inner circle interference or just preying on Moxley's injured face. It would of course make a heel vs. heel match for the title, but that leaves it wide open to Moxley then interfering. That or Moxley wins and we get the match with Jericho for it all. (Win or lose Moxley, you either win...or lose....those are your two options, top quote randy marsh)
4. Next week's episode will be on Jericho's cruise....should make for a fun background, unless the ocean acts up.
5. Taz just signed a multiyear deal with AEW. I happened to be wearing my old FTW 13 beanie from back in the day when I read it. Coincidence?

ucsdguy1
January 23rd, 2020, 09:35 AM
Really bizarre show from the Jericho cruise last night. How can you have a cruise and not Orange Cassidy?

Good for Page/Omega. Interesting as they've been hinting Page turning on him for awhile, that it wouldn't occur after they lost the titles. Does it happen now while they're tag champs, or after they lose? Page crowd surfing while pounding beers was nice.

That was a pretty quick heel turn for Britt Baker. Poor Schiavone, did he really work at Starbucks as a s****y barista? :)

TooCool
January 23rd, 2020, 11:54 AM
Really bizarre show from the Jericho cruise last night. How can you have a cruise and not Orange Cassidy?

Good for Page/Omega. Interesting as they've been hinting Page turning on him for awhile, that it wouldn't occur after they lost the titles. Does it happen now while they're tag champs, or after they lose? Page crowd surfing while pounding beers was nice.

That was a pretty quick heel turn for Britt Baker. Poor Schiavone, did he really work at Starbucks as a s****y barista? :)

I loved the fans singing Jericho's song. It reminded me of the crowding doing the same for Shinsuke Nakamura and Sami Zayn. Those never get old. You could see Jericho crack some smiles too even though he's a heel.

So Britt Baker is officially a heel now with that promo. After all, she's pissed at Riho for swooping in to win almost every single time right?

Adam Page being a heel like you said should be fun. Especially since it's been hinted at for weeks now. Young Bucks vs Omega/Page moving forward? Unless SCU wins it back.

The whole show there on the boat was really cool. I'd imagine it was cold with how windy it looked.

ucsdguy1
January 30th, 2020, 11:56 AM
Highlights from AEW last night:

- Hangman telling Jackson to 'hold my beer' while he executed a buckshot lariat

- The tweets from Hangman earlier:

HANGMAN PAGE

@theAdamPage


i don’t have a match tonight on dynamite so imma just get piss drunk and slip out by nine without saying goodbye



HANGMAN PAGE

@theAdamPage


the earth split, and i gazed downward into the chasm. there, surrounded by bursts of flame and the stench of burning flesh, satan spread his asschecks, and through plumes of sulfur I could see directly into his demonic anus, and behold.. the miami international airport

- Pretty much everything darby allin did

- Joey Janela: I don't know why but when he rose to get in the middle of Sabian and Ford's kiss, then gave Sabian the middle finger I laughed out loud pretty good.

TooCool
January 31st, 2020, 09:26 AM
Highlights from AEW last night:

- Hangman telling Jackson to 'hold my beer' while he executed a buckshot lariat

- The tweets from Hangman earlier:





- Pretty much everything darby allin did

- Joey Janela: I don't know why but when he rose to get in the middle of Sabian and Ford's kiss, then gave Sabian the middle finger I laughed out loud pretty good.

I'm really loving this side of Adam Page. I'll admit, other than his catchy tune when AEW was brand new, I didn't know much about him. But now as weeks and weeks have gone by, his character development has been great.

Agree with you on the Darby Allin part. I even loved how JR said something along the lines about fans being attached to him while they showed another kid with face paint in the crowd. It helps when JR speaks the truth and it also helps when there is proof of that on a weekly basis.

Overall, I think AEW is fun. It still feels fresh to me. My only complaint is that they'll have matches where you know who will lose no matter what... kind of like what WWE does. Maybe that's wrestling? I don't know... I just feel like it could be booked better so everyone can win on any given night. But I understand you can't have that without that 50/50 **** either.

ucsdguy1
January 31st, 2020, 10:12 AM
Agree with you on the Darby Allin part. I even loved how JR said something along the lines about fans being attached to him while they showed another kid with face paint in the crowd. It helps when JR speaks the truth and it also helps when there is proof of that on a weekly basis.

Overall, I think AEW is fun. It still feels fresh to me. My only complaint is that they'll have matches where you know who will lose no matter what... kind of like what WWE does. Maybe that's wrestling? I don't know... I just feel like it could be booked better so everyone can win on any given night. But I understand you can't have that without that 50/50 **** either.
Britt Baker did not agree: "You sit there each week and collect a very large paycheck while we all do the work. Be the legend I grew up on, Jim, not a sloppy BBQ sauce sales rep who can't even get the names on our roster straight." :)

I agree on AEW, although I find that even when it's obvious who will lose they find ways to make the matches entertaining. And the crowds are a huge factory of the show in my opinion. If they're animated, it can add to any match.

TooCool
February 12th, 2020, 10:25 AM
https://i.redd.it/dstrc1f0oig41.png

Love the Moxley vs Santana pic!

ucsdguy1
February 13th, 2020, 10:35 AM
Wow man new women's champ. That was a brutal match. I'm really surprised they had the title switch on a Wednesday night show when this easily could've happened at the ppv. I imagine Rose will have many face to challengers but will prove to be an unstoppable force.

The crowd was super hot last night and that really adds to broadcasts. Page/Omega vs. SCU was awesome. It's funny they've been setting up Page turning on Omega for awhile now, but every week he is getting more and more popular with fans. That's going to inevitably disrupt a "heel" turn.

ucsdguy1
February 19th, 2020, 10:52 AM
Matt Hardy anyone?


The UNKILLABLE Matt Hardy
@MATTHARDYBRAND
Against Every Warning, with serious head/neck injuries, I showed up on #RAW (http://letsgokings.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=RAW) to face & fight RKO. I was brutally beaten & suffered multiple injuries. But I’m alive. I’m not sure what’s next. If this was my @WWE goodbye, I didn’t get what I deserved-But maybe I got what I needed. https://t.co/Bzh1Ot4fcU


EVIL UNO of the DARK ORDER
@EvilUno
You say goodbye and I say hello https://t.co/HN1jl3Kk1H

TooCool
February 19th, 2020, 01:11 PM
Matt Hardy anyone?

Would love to see Matt Hardy in AEW where he would be used properly. The question is... can AEW survive by having this Dark Order storyline stall out even longer than it already has? Matt is going to have that stupid 90 day no compete clause.. so he won't be in AEW until June 1st at the earliest.

Excited to see Luke Harper/Brodie Lee show up soon though! :)

TooCool
February 29th, 2020, 06:49 PM
Insanely fun match between Darby Allin and Sammy Guevara.

ucsdguy1
February 29th, 2020, 07:42 PM
Insanely fun match between Darby Allin and Sammy Guevara.
Man still can’t bring myself to pay $50 for a ppv so not watching. I’m sure was great though

TooCool
February 29th, 2020, 09:38 PM
Man still can’t bring myself to pay $50 for a ppv so not watching. I’m sure was great though

I didn't pony up $50 either but man I probably should have. What an insane PPV. That was one of the best I've seen and it's up there with the TakeOvers.

I'm "all in" with AEW now more than ever. This is what wrestling should be about. It should be about smart booking and fun to watch.

ucsdguy1
March 1st, 2020, 10:19 AM
I didn't pony up $50 either but man I probably should have. What an insane PPV. That was one of the best I've seen and it's up there with the TakeOvers.

I'm "all in" with AEW now more than ever. This is what wrestling should be about. It should be about smart booking and fun to watch.
So they kind of stole a bit from Bobby Roode at takeover Toronto but that Jericho entrance was pretty sweet

ucsdguy1
March 6th, 2020, 01:59 PM
So Pac and Lucha Bros fopr some reason became a stable (Death Triangle). The innernetz are a buzz of a potential "trio" championship belt on the horizon.

So we've got:
Death Triangle
Best Friends/Cassidy
Jurassic Express

I might also throw in the makeshift trios of:
MJF/Butcher & Blade
Dark Order (any combination)
Inner Circle (assuming Spanish God/Santana & Ortiz)


There's potential?

TooCool
March 18th, 2020, 07:05 PM
Holy **** AEW knocked it out of the park tonight with their empty arena show. Unlike Smackdown and RAW when it was awkward... they went all out and proceeded like normal. We still got pyro and the wrestlers who didn't have a match were in the crowd all night being hilarious.

Brodie Lee finally debuts as the Exalted One. (Not a fan of his ring gear though)
Now Matt Hardy is officially All Elite. Hell yeah!

ucsdguy1
March 19th, 2020, 10:48 AM
Holy **** AEW knocked it out of the park tonight with their empty arena show. Unlike Smackdown and RAW when it was awkward... they went all out and proceeded like normal. We still got pyro and the wrestlers who didn't have a match were in the crowd all night being hilarious.

Brodie Lee finally debuts as the Exalted One. (Not a fan of his ring gear though)
Now Matt Hardy is officially All Elite. Hell yeah!
MJF and Dillinger betting on the matches was funny. But most of all, Cassidy putting on the headphones for commentary and staying silent was just as good as it gets! ha

I kept thinking "geez they are most definitely not practicing social distancing", but that was about as good as it could get without a live crowd.

It's really too bad they couldn't have done the Brodie Lee and Matt Hardy reveal's in front of a live audience. I almost wish they would've waited till this blows over to do so. Apparently they put a Hardy shirt out and it "deleted" the internet for awhile.

TooCool
March 26th, 2020, 09:34 AM
Yesterday's Dynamite wasn't too interesting and I don't blame them. Because of the 10 person in one area rule, they had to do the gambling stuff in a trailer which felt.... disjointed.

I want to talk about Brodie Lee. So is he suppose to spoof Vince McMahon as the Exalted One or is he just so bitter about being misused he feels like he needs to take some more shots first? The bit last week with the "out of touch old man" and last night, two members of the Dark Order had to wait until he finished eating first before they can eat. But then one guy sneezed and Brodie yelled at him for doing so. Then let's talk about his finishing move. It's quite clunky in my opinion. He set up QT Marshall like he was going to use Sister Abigail only to spin and use the discus lariat.

Then that final segment with Chris Jericho and Matt Hardy. It's uhh... stupid yet interesting? If you know me, you know how I feel about the Broken Hardy gimmick. I think it was dumb in TNA and it was dumb in WWE. Granted, WWE kind of did away with that gimmick so Matt wasn't happy about that. I mean I'm willing to give it a shot in AEW to see what ideas Matt really has up his sleeve... but it's hard to be a fan of it when it's just over the top ridiculous. So yeah, that's my take on it.

I do like how Jericho is sticking with his "I banned the fans until I say so" speech. When things go back to normal, I expect him to demand that the fans thank him for being allowed to come back. :lol:

CIrvine
March 26th, 2020, 12:36 PM
What? No comment on the Omega/Guevara match?

TooCool
March 26th, 2020, 01:40 PM
What? No comment on the Omega/Guevara match?

I'll admit, I wasn't too invested in that match. I figured there's no way the title would change hands especially since there was no crowd. I think if I had to nitpick, the match kinda dragged on 5 minutes too long even. Sammy Guevara making out with the Brandi cutout though was funny. =P That's all I got on that match! What did you think of it?

CIrvine
March 27th, 2020, 07:47 AM
I thought it was a great match since I bet on Kenny.

ucsdguy1
March 28th, 2020, 12:50 AM
Then that final segment with Chris Jericho and Matt Hardy. It's uhh... stupid yet interesting? If you know me, you know how I feel about the Broken Hardy gimmick. I think it was dumb in TNA and it was dumb in WWE. Granted, WWE kind of did away with that gimmick so Matt wasn't happy about that. I mean I'm willing to give it a shot in AEW to see what ideas Matt really has up his sleeve... but it's hard to be a fan of it when it's just over the top ridiculous. So yeah, that's my take on it.

I do like how Jericho is sticking with his "I banned the fans until I say so" speech. When things go back to normal, I expect him to demand that the fans thank him for being allowed to come back. :lol:

Come on dude, Jericho ran a promo on Matt Hardy’s drone! “Vanguard I think you’re a piece of s***. Want to join the inner circle?”
I laughed a lot between “are you inner circle or elite?” “DELETE” “Elite” “DELETE”. Plus there was the whole Matt hardy bringing up that the souls of Abraham Lincoln and Martin Luther king (“he still has a dream”) were in the crowd.

Lol

Jericho/Guevara - I mean sheesh they both can put on a hell of a match. It’s just such a shame to not have fans in these matches as they have become such a big part of the show. And will anyone ever get tired of Guevara singing Judas? :)

We’ve spent a lot of time during safer at home rewatching and I’m proud to say my 5 year old has become a huge Darby Allin and Luchasaurus fan right behind Cassidy (and when he’s not asking me when the next Sasha banks match is). Parenting goals?

mitchrock
March 28th, 2020, 08:36 AM
Brodie Lee to me is a disappointment as The Exalted one. Not a strong persona. Bray elevated him and Rowan in WWE. Would much rather have had Hardy be the exalted one. Although, I love MAtt's promos with Jericho.

I want Orange Cassidy to lead a faction to overthrow the dark order.

TooCool
March 28th, 2020, 12:57 PM
Brodie Lee to me is a disappointment as The Exalted one. Not a strong persona. Bray elevated him and Rowan in WWE. Would much rather have had Hardy be the exalted one. Although, I love MAtt's promos with Jericho.

I want Orange Cassidy to lead a faction to overthrow the dark order.

Well that's just the thing Mitchy. Vince held back Harper and Rowan for so long and never allowed them to have anything of a persona. There's a lot of unknown with Brodie Lee. Only time will tell for us all to see what he's truly got.

ucsd, one really good thing I love about AEW is the same reason why your son loves those wrestlers. Darby Allin, Luchasaurus, and Orange Cassidy are great stars in the making. They're unique and fun to watch. I wish they would do more with The Hybrid 2 (Angelico and Jack Evans). They were so good in Lucha Underground but unfortunately right now they're struggling to find their footing in AEW. I think a lot more characters need mic time and storylines still, rather than just go out and wrestle and lose. Obviously right now the timing is all bad.. but just thinking of the future. :)

TooCool
April 1st, 2020, 08:54 PM
Alright, I'll admit it. This segment was pretty hilarious. Jericho did an amazing job!

https://streamable.com/g3yiol

TooCool
May 26th, 2020, 01:49 PM
Didn't watch the PPV but caught highlights of it.

This one in particular was genius. https://twitter.com/Santana_Proud/status/1264903954099507202

ucsdguy1
May 26th, 2020, 04:54 PM
Didn't watch the PPV but caught highlights of it.

This one in particular was genius. https://twitter.com/Santana_Proud/status/1264903954099507202

Caught most of the highlights online. That stadium stampede sure was something..

I'm really surprised after building up Lance Archer so much they had him lose to Cody cleanly.

mitchrock
May 26th, 2020, 09:38 PM
Caught most of the highlights online. That stadium stampede sure was something..

I'm really surprised after building up Lance Archer so much they had him lose to Cody cleanly.

Wasn't sure how that match would be handled. They need to have LAnce come on strong now so he doesn't lose the momentum he had before the PPV.

ucsdguy1
May 28th, 2020, 01:01 PM
Wasn't sure how that match would be handled. They need to have LAnce come on strong now so he doesn't lose the momentum he had before the PPV.
Agreed. I fully thought he might steamroll (or at least win convincingly).

Kind of similar with Brian Cage. He just showed up and now is getting a title shot against Moxley. Do you really want Cage losing this quickly if you're building him up? By the way, I'd pay to watch him wrestling Darby Allin twice!

ucsdguy1
June 15th, 2020, 04:15 PM
I've never been a podcast guy but for some reason as this coronavirus thing hit I started listening to Chris Jericho's podcasts. And hey, they're really good! The watch-along of Damien: Omen II with Kevin Smith was hilarious. And I really enjoyed the episodes with Lance Archer and going back with Britt Baker and Jim Ross. Highly recommend if anyone is ever bored.

Haven't listened yet but he had one last week with the inner circle where they discuss what went into the stadium stampede match. I must hear because that whole thing was bonkers.

ucsdguy1
June 22nd, 2020, 03:12 PM
wow

Sammy Guevara suspended without pay indefinitely for comments from a couple years back he made about Sasha Banks and Jimmy Havoc to undergo treatment for substance abuse and mental healty

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2897225-aews-sammy-guevara-suspended-over-2016-rape-comment-about-wwes-sasha-banks

ucsdguy1
July 6th, 2020, 01:35 PM
Oh no he didn't

https://img.bleacherreport.net/img/slides/photos/004/399/563/b74a74e3e2978359980b86c69953348e_crop_exact.jpeg?h =533&w=800&q=70&crop_x=center&crop_y=top

TooCool
July 8th, 2020, 09:43 AM
There's something about the remixed version of his new song that I really dig.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpMS_0Xw7Ns

ucsdguy1
July 16th, 2020, 01:58 PM
Um, Omega heel turn anyone?

mitchrock
July 18th, 2020, 03:23 PM
He hinted at it. Will see. The Jericho promo and his announcing afterward was hilarious. Love Ortiz flopping around in the orange juice.

ucsdguy1
July 19th, 2020, 09:09 PM
Ortiz in the orange juice was hilarious, especially after admitting he can’t swim in the stadium stampede. I love that guy

TooCool
July 30th, 2020, 10:45 AM
Ortiz in the orange juice was hilarious, especially after admitting he can’t swim in the stadium stampede. I love that guy

Oh damn, I need to find a clip of that. I remember reading about it and that was it.

I'm happy that Zack Ryder AKA Matt Cardona is in AEW officially now. Wanted Heath Slater to go there too but if he's successful with Impact, good for him. I just don't care for Impact wrestling. =\ But for Matt, I thought his debut was great. They didn't hype up his appearance or anything. He just showed up, helped out his friend and that was it. And the odd reason why I like that is so you don't have to hype every single "WWE reject" so to speak.

ucsdguy1
August 3rd, 2020, 09:02 AM
Finally watched AEW from Wednesday. I gotta say, MJF made some pretty good points.....

The jericho/cassidy "debate" wednesday should go well...

ucsdguy1
August 27th, 2020, 09:31 AM
want

https://www.shopaew.com/pub/media/catalog/product/cache/image/e9c3970ab036de70892d86c6d221abfe/a/e/aew1437.png

ucsdguy1
September 9th, 2020, 07:24 PM
Happy miro day!!

TooCool
September 10th, 2020, 10:04 PM
Happy miro day!!

Stoked that Miro is All Elite on Miro Day!!

I also really liked the debut because it could possibly help Kip Sabian and Penelope Ford as well, depending on where they go with this story line.

CIrvine
December 27th, 2020, 11:10 AM
RIP Mr. Brodie Lee.

ucsdguy1
December 28th, 2020, 09:44 AM
RIP Mr. Brody Lee.
Shocking and sad. Nice to see sentiment all around at what a nice guy and good father from fellow wrestlers.

TooCool
December 30th, 2020, 08:04 PM
Shocking and sad. Nice to see sentiment all around at what a nice guy and good father from fellow wrestlers.

His death hit me as hard as when Eddie passed. He was so loved by everyone behind the scenes. I always had high hopes for him but sadly they never used him right in WWE.

It's such a shame to see that his big debut with AEW was going to be in his hometown of Rochester as well. I believe on tonight's broadcast Jericho mentioned it was on March 18th, pretty much when everything had to shut down. He got robbed of a huge pop and a huge "start" to his career in AEW.

When he dropped the TNT Title to Cody and people said he was "injured", I just assumed it was something minor and that he wasn't going to reappear until he got better. Then he can come back as a surprise again. But damn, we all had no idea he was fighting this lung issue since October.

Tonight's episode was fantastic from top to bottom. Great wrestling. No nonsense booking with random swerves. They had Dark Order win everything and that's just fine with me. RIP Brodie. You'll be missed.

TooCool
March 7th, 2021, 03:39 PM
I did it. I just spent $50 ordering the AEW Revolution PPV tonight. I can't recall the last time I've been this hyped for a PPV (that I'm not attending live).

AEW WORLD TITLE EXPLODING BARBWIRE DEATHMATCH
Kenny Omega (c) vs. (#1) Jon Moxley

STREET FIGHT
TNT Champion Darby Allin & Sting vs. Team Taz (FTW Champion Brian Cage & Ricky Starks)

AEW WORLD TAG TEAM TITLE MATCH
The Young Bucks (Matt & Nick Jackson) (c) vs. The Inner Circle (Chris Jericho & MJF w/ Wardlow)

AEW WOMEN'S WORLD TITLE MATCH
Hikaru Shida (c) vs. Women's World Title Eliminator Tournament Winner Ryo Mizunami

BIG MONEY MATCH
“Hangman” Adam Page vs. “Big Money” Matt Hardy
***WINNER GETS THE LOSER'S 1ST QUARTER EARNINGS***

FACE OF THE REVOLUTION LADDER MATCH
***WINNER EARNS A TNT TITLE MATCH ON MARCH 10TH***
“The American Nightmare” Cody Rhodes vs. Scorpio Sky vs. Penta El Zero Miedo vs. “The Murderhawk Monster” Lance Archer vs. Max Caster vs. ???

TAG TEAM GRUDGE MATCH
Chuck Taylor & Orange Cassidy vs. Kip Sabian & Miro (w/ Penelope Ford)

CASINO TAG TEAM ROYALE
***WINNERS EARN A FUTURE WORLD TAG TEAM TITLE MATCH***

Paul Wight signing announcement

THE BUY-IN
Thunder Rosa & Riho vs. Dr. Britt Baker D.M.D & Rebel

Everything about the card looks insane from top to bottom for me. I don't know what to expect for the Exploding Barbwire Deathmatch but I'm sure it'll deliver.

ucsdguy1
March 9th, 2021, 03:23 PM
I did it. I just spent $50 ordering the AEW Revolution PPV tonight. I can't recall the last time I've been this hyped for a PPV (that I'm not attending live).

AEW WORLD TITLE EXPLODING BARBWIRE DEATHMATCH
Kenny Omega (c) vs. (#1) Jon Moxley

STREET FIGHT
TNT Champion Darby Allin & Sting vs. Team Taz (FTW Champion Brian Cage & Ricky Starks)

AEW WORLD TAG TEAM TITLE MATCH
The Young Bucks (Matt & Nick Jackson) (c) vs. The Inner Circle (Chris Jericho & MJF w/ Wardlow)

AEW WOMEN'S WORLD TITLE MATCH
Hikaru Shida (c) vs. Women's World Title Eliminator Tournament Winner Ryo Mizunami

BIG MONEY MATCH
“Hangman” Adam Page vs. “Big Money” Matt Hardy
***WINNER GETS THE LOSER'S 1ST QUARTER EARNINGS***

FACE OF THE REVOLUTION LADDER MATCH
***WINNER EARNS A TNT TITLE MATCH ON MARCH 10TH***
“The American Nightmare” Cody Rhodes vs. Scorpio Sky vs. Penta El Zero Miedo vs. “The Murderhawk Monster” Lance Archer vs. Max Caster vs. ???

TAG TEAM GRUDGE MATCH
Chuck Taylor & Orange Cassidy vs. Kip Sabian & Miro (w/ Penelope Ford)

CASINO TAG TEAM ROYALE
***WINNERS EARN A FUTURE WORLD TAG TEAM TITLE MATCH***

Paul Wight signing announcement

THE BUY-IN
Thunder Rosa & Riho vs. Dr. Britt Baker D.M.D & Rebel

Everything about the card looks insane from top to bottom for me. I don't know what to expect for the Exploding Barbwire Deathmatch but I'm sure it'll deliver.
and your thoughts?

I only saw various highlight clips on youtube.

CIrvine
April 1st, 2021, 06:29 AM
Great. Just what AEW needs, another faction.

ucsdguy1
April 2nd, 2021, 09:35 AM
Great. Just what AEW needs, another faction.

They really just need pentagon and rey fenix to wrestle anyone, anywhere, all the time.

ucsdguy1
April 2nd, 2021, 04:20 PM
By the way did anyone catch the Thunder Rosa/Britt Baker no holds barred match a couple weeks ago? That was brutal.

CIrvine
April 8th, 2021, 12:59 PM
They really just need pentagon and rey fenix to wrestle anyone, anywhere, all the time.

And let Jericho cut promos in between matches.

TooCool
April 19th, 2021, 02:58 PM
and your thoughts?

I only saw various highlight clips on youtube.

Oh jeez. I totally forgot to reply to you. -_- My apologies.

I liked the PPV. It wasn't worth $50 good but it was decent enough. Maybe I can't get it out of my head that the Network only cost 10 bucks and here Tony Khan is asking for $50. :lol:

But besides the price, I thoroughly enjoyed almost everything on the PPV. I didn't like that they kept hyping the exploding ring. And when that turned out to be a dud, it looked so bad. They could have said the ring would explode if they didn't finish the match in time. But then you could quickly end the match and then be done with it.

All in all, I'm enjoying Dynamite weekly a lot. I won't be ordering their next PPV though, that's for sure.

Speaking of PPVs, I did sub to Peacock because they had a deal for Mania where you paid $10 and it's good for 4 months. But wow, not being able to pause, rewind/fast forward is stupid as hell! During night one of WM, right before the Bad Bunny match I went to go pick up dinner thinking I could resume it after. When I got back, I couldn't pick up where I left off. I had to wait until Peacock put out the "Replay" version of it.

ucsdguy1
April 20th, 2021, 09:53 AM
Speaking of PPVs, I did sub to Peacock because they had a deal for Mania where you paid $10 and it's good for 4 months. But wow, not being able to pause, rewind/fast forward is stupid as hell! During night one of WM, right before the Bad Bunny match I went to go pick up dinner thinking I could resume it after. When I got back, I couldn't pick up where I left off. I had to wait until Peacock put out the "Replay" version of it.

No worries! I had the same issue with Peacock. Funny enough for Wrestlemania, if I used the app on my phone I could rewind but not on my TV app. The kids watched the replay a few days later which has the functionality I believe.

We've been watching NXT and Dynamite weekly more often than Raw/Smackdown. (My 6 year old loves Dexter Lumis, I'm not sure if good or bad). But just find that the matches on Dynamite are so much better on a weekly basis.

TooCool
April 20th, 2021, 10:34 AM
No worries! I had the same issue with Peacock. Funny enough for Wrestlemania, if I used the app on my phone I could rewind but not on my TV app. The kids watched the replay a few days later which has the functionality I believe.

We've been watching NXT and Dynamite weekly more often than Raw/Smackdown. (My 6 year old loves Dexter Lumis, I'm not sure if good or bad). But just find that the matches on Dynamite are so much better on a weekly basis.

:lol: Awesome. Well if Indi Hartwell likes Dexter Lumis then its ok if your kid does too. =P

I agree with you on the Dynamite matches. Both Dynamite and NXT just produce top notch matches on a weekly basis. While I lost interest in NXT myself (for some reason the pandemic part still killed my interest as it's not the same when they're not at full sail). Dynamite feels like it's a must watch for me. It's a feeling I used to have as a teenager growing up watching RAW where I always feel like I need to tune in or else I'll miss something. Granted in this day and age, if you miss something, you can just catch it on Youtube... haha

But either way, my point is that RAW/Smackdown, they've gotten so ridiculously complacent. The horrible camera cuts WWE insists on doing has gotten worse and worse too.

I know one big complaint with AEW is that there are waaaaaaaaaay too many factions. I'm personally okay with that. I do agree it's too much but it's how you book all of them that matters.

Dexter
August 21st, 2021, 05:43 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByAXCjqBzLg

ucsdguy1
August 22nd, 2021, 08:13 AM
Awesome reaction and segment. Perfectly executed

mitchrock
August 22nd, 2021, 08:39 PM
Aew is amazing. Now that Bray is released from WWE. NO reason to watch WWE anymore.

ucsdguy1
August 23rd, 2021, 11:24 AM
Thanks for making me feel like Britt Baker in Pittsburgh (err...Brittsburgh)...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9SOrHlX0AURQ4k?format=jpg&name=900x900

TooCool
August 24th, 2021, 12:18 AM
One thing I love about CM Punk's debut on AEW is that they let you enjoy the moment with the crowd chanting. Meanwhile in WWE it's always, "OHHHHHHHHHHH MYYYYYYYYY? CAN IT BE?!?! IT IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

I'm fully on the AEW train now. This is the kind of wrestling I want. This is what I loved about NXT to be quite honest and now even NXT bores me. =\ That Capitol Wrestling Center thing they're at doesn't do it for me at all. And knowing almost all their call ups will only get jobbed on the main roster frustrates me even more.

Adam Cole is a free agent now. He better show up this Wednesday on Dynamite.

ucsdguy1
August 24th, 2021, 12:19 PM
This is what I loved about NXT to be quite honest and now even NXT bores me. =\ That Capitol Wrestling Center thing they're at doesn't do it for me at all. And knowing almost all their call ups will only get jobbed on the main roster frustrates me even more.

I am 100% with this. NXT just doesn't do it for me much anymore. I can't decide if it is a lack of likeable talent, a lack of engaging matches or a combination of both. And with all the sheets saying Vince is revamping it altogether, see ya. They've ruined Karrion Kross already.

So apparently we have Bray Wyatt, Daniel Bryan, and potentially Adam Cole coming to AEW. With Miro, Cage, et al, my only concern with so many signings is a lack of space. I love AEW because it gives talent so many may not have otherwise heard of time to shine. The matches are incredible even without huge names, and stylistically totally the opposite of weekly wwe matches. I hope they can sustain the pace, and don't want to see a bunch of those guys/girls getting pushed out that otherwise would be making waves. (We need more orange cassidy!) Also I'd be lying if a small ecw part of my soul loves the fanaticism of AEW crowds and fears that may die down as it gets more and more notoriety. That's just the cynic in me.

But CM Punk's entrance, I mean yeah. Doing it to start off the show was perfect so as not to have the chants going through all the other matches. He legit looked taken aback (watch the video they put out of him backstage when the crowd reacted and as he walked to the ramp).

For the first time in a long time I think I may buy a pay per view. I mean I just have to see Punk/Allin, not to mention some of the other insanely tempting matches to take place.

Also, is there anything more organic than Britt Baker being a total heel and morphing into a crowd favorite anyway? Those "D-M-D" chants are quite vociferous.

Oh and it's time to get the tag belts on Jurassic Express.

TooCool
August 25th, 2021, 11:52 PM
I am 100% with this. NXT just doesn't do it for me much anymore. I can't decide if it is a lack of likeable talent, a lack of engaging matches or a combination of both. And with all the sheets saying Vince is revamping it altogether, see ya. They've ruined Karrion Kross already.

So apparently we have Bray Wyatt, Daniel Bryan, and potentially Adam Cole coming to AEW. With Miro, Cage, et al, my only concern with so many signings is a lack of space. I love AEW because it gives talent so many may not have otherwise heard of time to shine. The matches are incredible even without huge names, and stylistically totally the opposite of weekly wwe matches. I hope they can sustain the pace, and don't want to see a bunch of those guys/girls getting pushed out that otherwise would be making waves. (We need more orange cassidy!) Also I'd be lying if a small ecw part of my soul loves the fanaticism of AEW crowds and fears that may die down as it gets more and more notoriety. That's just the cynic in me.

But CM Punk's entrance, I mean yeah. Doing it to start off the show was perfect so as not to have the chants going through all the other matches. He legit looked taken aback (watch the video they put out of him backstage when the crowd reacted and as he walked to the ramp).

For the first time in a long time I think I may buy a pay per view. I mean I just have to see Punk/Allin, not to mention some of the other insanely tempting matches to take place.

Also, is there anything more organic than Britt Baker being a total heel and morphing into a crowd favorite anyway? Those "D-M-D" chants are quite vociferous.

Oh and it's time to get the tag belts on Jurassic Express.

Agree with everything you said.

CM Punk more or less confirmed Bryan Danielson tonight as well when the crowd started the "YES" chants and he said we need to be a little more patient.. haha :)

The only complaints I have about AEW is that they definitely have too many people on the roster. It's weird to say but I love that they're not on EVERY episode week after week. But at the same time, having them appear in large gaps kind of makes it hard to care about them if that makes sense? Take Miro for example. He's booked properly by being a dominant monster and he picks his opponents. But having him show up for a match once every 2-3 weeks does nothing for me. Then you got guys like Scorpio Sky and Ethan Page. I want to know more about them, but they don't show up enough for me to care. Then you got guys like Jon Moxley and Lancer Archer who seem to be in a very random spot. Hell, what the **** happened to Inner Circle and The Pinnacle? You see what I mean?

And then we talked about this before. The Standings/Records that are still meaningless IMO. I get that they try to use that to determine who are the next #1 (https://letsgokings.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1) contenders. Like how Christian Cage is 7-0 and Kris Statlander is 14-0. But when you think about how all their wins have been padded on Dark and Elevation, it's dumb. Now don't get me wrong, it's a great way to get the Tag Team like Varsity Blonds on TV tonight because they're 18-4. But again, you see the record and you're thinking, "So what?" Hell, I'm looking at the roster page and Austin Gunn is 26-2! Why isn't he anywhere near the Top 5 in the rankings? You know what I mean? The records may look "impressive" to the casual fans I guess... but it's meaningless when you don't explain the logic behind it.

However, with those complaints out of the way... I love AEW. Wrestling is fun again, just like when NXT was great. And that's all that matters to me at the end of the day. I just can't watch RAW/Smackdown anymore and their countless camera cuts (Did you see the highlight of Miz turning on Morrison? How are those camera cuts acceptable?), rematches, rollup finishes, etc. Everything about the WWE is just so formulaic and stale. WWE has gotten to the point where they make so much money now with all these sponsorship, network deals, etc that they will never ever fail again, even if the product is absolutely unwatchable. They have truly reached a place where they can do no wrong.

TooCool
September 5th, 2021, 04:14 PM
I purchased All Out. My second AEW PPV Purchase. This is going to be a habit isn't it? LOL.

But damn it, give me Bryan Danielson, Adam Cole, Ruby Soho AND WHOEVER ELSE YOU GOT!!!

TooCool
September 5th, 2021, 09:02 PM
Adam Cole debuts. Comes out of the heel tunnel, remains a heel.

Bryan Danielson debuts. Holy ****!!!!! Got everything I wished for. AEW always delivers.

ucsdguy1
September 6th, 2021, 09:33 AM
I purchased All Out. My second AEW PPV Purchase. This is going to be a habit isn't it? LOL.

But damn it, give me Bryan Danielson, Adam Cole, Ruby Soho AND WHOEVER ELSE YOU GOT!!!

I ordered it too. So many thoughts, I don't even know where to begin.

I at first thought they messed up Adam Cole's debut, by having it completely overshadowed by Daniel Bryan. Have Cole come in with the swerve, and have the bad guys standing tall to end the show, whereas Bryan can come in later. But, they did an awesome job throwing pretty much everyone off. When the lights went out didn't we all think it was Bryan? And even if Cole, did we think he'd just join the elite? The star power is off the charts.

I don't even think Ruby did a whole lot. She was good, a bit sloppy with Rosa. But you can't deny the emotion and she's got plenty to give. I loved that active wwe wrestlers were tweeting their support directly or indirectly.

I still maintain they've got a problem with an overabundance of talent and how to fit everyone in. And I hope they keep it to wrestling. But man who in their right mind is going to watch wwe over aew this week? I mean this was a long pay per view that still didn't have Aleister Black, Sammy Guevara, Santana/Ortiz, Brian Cage, Lance Archer, and others involved. Do they really need bray wyatt?

As to the matches...

Lucha Bros/Bucks - match of the year candidate if not winner already. I was a little grossed out by Penta kissing his family and getting his blood all over them. But lord those guys deserve it and that was one hell of a crazy match. No more rematches for awhile, let the tag division shine with fresh challengers. (I still maintain Varsity Blondes should be bigger than they are, ha!)

Punk/Allin - I totally thought Sting was going to turn on Allin when he lost. Punk looked a bit rusty at first but it picked up as the match went on. Think Allin carried it with some of his sells. But good to have Punk back. He sure did look winded, and sure did let the F bombs fly.

Omega/Cage - Christian put on a show. They both did. Funniest moment might be Omega when he slipped jumping onto the railing then gave the "shhh" to everyone. This match was all about the surprises after, but it was a hell of a lot of fun with two guys who are just great.

Baker/Statlander - I geeked out like everyone else in the crowd when she did the panama sunrise. Statlander looked great and deserves air time. Baker is so over whether she's a heel or not. Nice to see her win a match clean too.

Moxley - just seems fitting for him to strong style it out with new japan guys. Minoru and Mox should be another fun, hard hitting match. Minoru's facial expressions (and lack thereof) just make me smile.

Wight/Marshall - while big show looked like he was having fun, we don't need to see this again.

Rusev/Kingston - much more fun than it needed to be if you love two hard a**es just smashing each other.

Casino battle royal - all about Ruby, but I still maintain Thunder Rosa is awesome and a huge add to that division. Could AEW not license out Ruby Soho from Rancid for her theme?

That was a LONG pay per view, but oh so much fun.

TooCool
September 6th, 2021, 02:25 PM
Thanks for your thoughts! I enjoyed reading them. I'll quote you in response to my feelings about it.


I ordered it too. So many thoughts, I don't even know where to begin.

I at first thought they messed up Adam Cole's debut, by having it completely overshadowed by Daniel Bryan. Have Cole come in with the swerve, and have the bad guys standing tall to end the show, whereas Bryan can come in later. But, they did an awesome job throwing pretty much everyone off. When the lights went out didn't we all think it was Bryan? And even if Cole, did we think he'd just join the elite? The star power is off the charts.

I know they had that Youtube show they've been doing for a really long time called "Being the Elite". I'll post a Youtube video if you want to watch the "important" parts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvsXzPEu42k

Start at 3:40 and ends at 5:50. Then pick it back up again at 10:20 - 16:24.

Basically, to sum it up really quick... they "killed off Adam Cole" when he was going to WWE 4 years ago. So in Omega's promo at the end of the PPV, he said something along the lines of "The only one that can beat me are either not here (referring to Hangman I'm sure), retired, or dead (which would have been Adam Cole).

If I had to nitpick about his debut is that Adam Cole came out of the heel tunnel from the beginning. The bigger swerve would be if he came out from the face tunnel first. But yeah, his debut wasn't overshadowed at all since he was a heel. Then you have Bryan Danielson come out as a face. His new theme is a banger too now that I got to sleep on it. I absolutely wanted The Final Countdown but I guess trying to get permission to use certain songs can be a *****.


I don't even think Ruby did a whole lot. She was good, a bit sloppy with Rosa. But you can't deny the emotion and she's got plenty to give. I loved that active wwe wrestlers were tweeting their support directly or indirectly.

I agree. I think most of it was a chemistry issue as well. Ruby (and the other girls) felt very hesitant in performing certain moves because they're not sure what they wanted to do. I still think overall the Casino Battle Royal is a cluster**** and wish they would improve upon it. Having 5 people run out and trying to show the ring work + entrances is an absolute mess. And the eliminations were too quick after they entered.


I still maintain they've got a problem with an overabundance of talent and how to fit everyone in. And I hope they keep it to wrestling. But man who in their right mind is going to watch wwe over aew this week? I mean this was a long pay per view that still didn't have Aleister Black, Sammy Guevara, Santana/Ortiz, Brian Cage, Lance Archer, and others involved. Do they really need bray wyatt?

This is the toughest part IMO. It is 100% nice to not see rematches over and over on Dynamite and Rampage. But it does leave people out. Take Miro for example. I love the way he's been booked. But he only had like 1-2 matches in like a month? The rest were like 30 second promos talking about who he wants to destroy. So it's nice to not see him every single week, it can also be bad because when they do show up, it could feel like a throwaway match. The 4 PPVs a year thing is really smart as it makes the PPV feel important. But when you have a feud going, and you only continue it every other week it can be strange.


As to the matches...

Lucha Bros/Bucks - match of the year candidate if not winner already. I was a little grossed out by Penta kissing his family and getting his blood all over them. But lord those guys deserve it and that was one hell of a crazy match. No more rematches for awhile, let the tag division shine with fresh challengers. (I still maintain Varsity Blondes should be bigger than they are, ha!)

I always preferred Tornado Tag matches over standard Tag matches. So to put them all in a Steel Cage was amazing. The storytelling was beautiful. Sure, there were lots of planned spots but it was fun to watch. This was definitely match of the year material. Well deserved win for the Lucha Bros. They are insanely over with the crowd. I love it.


Punk/Allin - I totally thought Sting was going to turn on Allin when he lost. Punk looked a bit rusty at first but it picked up as the match went on. Think Allin carried it with some of his sells. But good to have Punk back. He sure did look winded, and sure did let the F bombs fly.

I agree about the rusty part in Punk. You could tell that they worked in so many rest holds for him. But as the match progressed, you could see that Punk started to look like his old self. Sting treating Darby Allin like a son is funny to me. It felt like Darby was saying "I'm sorry I disappointed you dad." when Sting helped him out of the ring. lol


Omega/Cage - Christian put on a show. They both did. Funniest moment might be Omega when he slipped jumping onto the railing then gave the "shhh" to everyone. This match was all about the surprises after, but it was a hell of a lot of fun with two guys who are just great.

Christian put on a damn good performance. I think the crowd was so burnt out by the time this match happened that they didn't feel as if they were into it as much as they should have. Like you said, it was all about the surprises after, and everyone knew that too. It can be tough to book a match if everyone knows the title wasn't changing hands.


Baker/Statlander - I geeked out like everyone else in the crowd when she did the panama sunrise. Statlander looked great and deserves air time. Baker is so over whether she's a heel or not. Nice to see her win a match clean too.

What I loved best about this match was the finish of it. I think we all got too used to wrestlers doing a big move and then they're like "OMG!! I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!!!" with surprise looked on their face as the camera zooms in on them for a good 10-20 seconds. For this match, Britt Baker used that Panama Sunrise, Kris Statlander kicked out. Britt immediately went for a curb stomp. She kicked out. So immediately, you apply the lockjaw to get her to submit. That's called taking care of business and it makes Statlander look strong in the loss because she did all she could... until she couldn't.

My only complaint with how AEW books things is that Kris Statlander was like what? 16-0? All 16 of those wins were from jobber matches on Dark and Elevation. They still haven't really explained why W/L record matters. Too many people have inflated records. I think if you look at the Gunn club. I think Billy's kids are like freaking 30-0. So why aren't they #1 (https://letsgokings.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1) contenders? You know what I mean? lol


Moxley - just seems fitting for him to strong style it out with new japan guys. Minoru and Mox should be another fun, hard hitting match. Minoru's facial expressions (and lack thereof) just make me smile.

Moxley has gained so much weight since he had a kid which is strange. I wonder if it's intentional. But this guy can still put on a damn good match. I feel like he has taken a back seat as of late but as long as he's having fun wrestling the New Japan guys, I'm fine with that. I'm also happy to be learning/hearing about these NJPW wrestlers too. It's a win win! It's also a huge part of why Bryan Danielson is in AEW because he wants to be able to work against them too.


Wight/Marshall - while big show looked like he was having fun, we don't need to see this again.

Rusev/Kingston - much more fun than it needed to be if you love two hard a**es just smashing each other.

Miro/Kingston was a good opener. That ref was such a heel though at the end of the match :lol:

Wight/Marshall was dumb. But I'm also okay with that because everyone needs a well deserved bathroom break during a long PPV.

Excited for Dynamite! :)

ucsdguy1
September 10th, 2021, 03:00 PM
I just re-watched the Britt/Rosa unsanctioned lights out match again. That was intense.

ucsdguy1
September 15th, 2021, 01:28 PM
This made me laugh

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/241881797_4478321582191280_442860087811182442_n.jp g?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=9267fe&_nc_eui2=AeH6SNC_wbVOZkxEUSIIpe5q-bk9SN0UUGL5uT1I3RRQYjK-nU2JOZiebrqVZdNo8xI&_nc_ohc=KaheXJRsomcAX9B81hc&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-1.xx&oh=2b1519666e5c41c0d06523a07ade7afd&oe=61694FB4

ucsdguy1
September 24th, 2021, 11:53 AM
I've only watched the Danielson/Omega match from Grand Slam so far. I got a text from a friend before watching "Omega/Bryan - 5 star match, A+ and can only go to A++ from here". Not sure I disagree too much :)

1. That crowd. holy #$&*(^. Listen to the reaction when the bell rings, and the first time they locked up. Bryan couldn't hide his emotions again and I f'n loved it. And they pretty much kept that feel the entire match.
2. Was the ending perfect? No. But it actually worked fine to set up a no time limit bout for the title at a future ppv. Sign me up for a ppv of just these two wrestling!

TooCool
September 27th, 2021, 09:38 AM
I've only watched the Danielson/Omega match from Grand Slam so far. I got a text from a friend before watching "Omega/Bryan - 5 star match, A+ and can only go to A++ from here". Not sure I disagree too much :)

1. That crowd. holy #$&*(^. Listen to the reaction when the bell rings, and the first time they locked up. Bryan couldn't hide his emotions again and I f'n loved it. And they pretty much kept that feel the entire match.
2. Was the ending perfect? No. But it actually worked fine to set up a no time limit bout for the title at a future ppv. Sign me up for a ppv of just these two wrestling!

I absolutely loved that match. The way Bryan was selling his "seizure" when he got suplexed on the ramp or when he ate those brutal V-Triggers. Holy moly. I honestly don't mind the draw finish. It's better than the blatant DQ and Countout finishes that WWE won't stop doing. One great thing about AEW is the lack of interference and there is almost always a winner and a loser.

The time limit is interesting too because I could have sworn all non-title matches were 20 minutes? This one went 30. I also feel like they need a better way to announce the time, or at least show us a clock (kind of like in the beat the clock challenge in WWE, but without the wrestlers constantly stare at the jumbotron and stall lol)

The rest of the show was insanely good. So far all the AEW crowds are killing it. They're all there to have so much fun and thankfully not one idiot have tried to do a "What" chant.

TooCool
September 29th, 2021, 08:17 AM
Tonight's Dynamite is in Rochester, NY. Hard to believe that Brodie Lee was suppose to make his debut in his home city back in March and then the pandemic happened.

Seems like Tony Khan and AEW are going to dedicate the show in memory of him. I have a feeling this is the perfect night for Bray Wyatt's debut.

Edit: Or maybe not. Just saw on Reddit that someone mentioned Bray still has like a month left in his no compete clause. :lol: Bring back Adam Page to reunite the Dark Order.

ucsdguy1
September 29th, 2021, 02:56 PM
I don't know I'm just not feeling the Bray Wyatt to AEW signing. I just don't think they need him. I suppose it would be to reunite dark order, but for some reason it just doesn't do it for me. I'd rather see someone like Brian Cage or other who excite me but are kind of getting lost in the shuffle get more air time. We're also suffering from a severe lack of orange cassidy air time lately.

Um that Lance Archer/Suzuki vs. Moxley/Kingston match? daayum

I am however quite excited for two matches tonight: Miro/Guevara (probably a no contest to set up a ppv match) and Cole/Jungle Boy (showtime boys)

ucsdguy1
October 1st, 2021, 03:46 PM
Guevara dayum!