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    Has anyone read what DD stated in the article written on NHL.com. He wants Blake to trade the young assts that the Kings have inorde to support himself, Brown Kopitar and Quick. He says they are running out of time in regards to winning a Cup. Apparently he didn't get the memo that stated the Kings are in full rebiuld mode and are going to biuld around the young high picks they drafted. There isn't GM in the league that would biuld a team around old players like Quick, Brown, Kopitar and DD. Kopitar and Quick should have been traded 2 years ago for high picks or prospects. They would have been much farther along on the rebiuld.

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    When he starts playing like a Norris Trophy defenseman again, we can talk.

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    from everything we've heard, the Kings are not in full "rebuild" mode. They were hoping to retool and get another crack. I'd imagine that was the sale spitch to the players, and id imagine that is, to a certain extent, the plan.

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    Was going to start a thread about this exact thing. Generally, I love Doughty and for the first half of the season, I thought we had him back, but tbh I am not interested in hearing how the 11mil man is not happy. First of all, take care of your own game and lead the younger ones. Don't just show up when things are going well. The last half of this season, he was decent defensively most of the time, some lapses and he disappeared offensively. He also suggested that everything went wrong after Carter was traded - really? I'm all for players calling out management, but he's so off-base. He even said we don't need more defensemen at one point.

    The next time anyone wants to crap on Kopi and say DD should be captain remember this cluelessness/arrogance. He's frustrated, I get it, but you know what? I'm frustrated, we're all frustrated - we're just not getting paid 95k per game to deal with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illegal_Stick View Post
    He also suggested that everything went wrong after Carter was traded - really?
    I actually agree with him on that point. What he said was:
    I kind of feel like it happened after [Jeff Carter] got traded, a pensive Doughty recalled. I dont know if thats when it did happen but it kind of seemed after that happened, everything just kind of went backward.
    And it did. The team wasn't playing great, they were slipping out of the playoffs, and the team traded carter. And i think what happened was, the team realized that it was over at that point. Management traded Carter because they needed to recoup assets and they didn't believe the team was going to right the ship in time to make the playoffs. And then the team just went off the rails, and we saw a bunch of games that looked like guys were pretty disinterested. To me, he isn't so much blaming the trade, as he is noting it as a key turning point. Trading Carter wasn't the reason they missed the playoffs, but it was a turning point in the team's confidence and effort. They knew at that point, the season was over.

    And it should be noted that the Kings have always framed this as a short rebuild/retool. Build up some assets and try and take another crack at it with the older core before they're done. And you'd have to assume that's the pitch the players were given too. We're going to bring in some young guys, and then use cap and assets to flesh out the roster. And the Kings have been rumored to be looking for a high end defenseman for a while now, so if im doughty, yeah... im holding management responsible too. The players didn't play as well as they should have, and they need to check that. But if management has a plan, and doesn't get it done, that has to be looked at too. Blake doesn't just get to throw his arms up and shrug. It's his job to find those trades and make those deals if that is in fact part of the plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helvetica View Post
    I actually agree with him on that point. What he said was:


    And it did. The team wasn't playing great, they were slipping out of the playoffs, and the team traded carter. And i think what happened was, the team realized that it was over at that point. Management traded Carter because they needed to recoup assets and they didn't believe the team was going to right the ship in time to make the playoffs. And then the team just went off the rails, and we saw a bunch of games that looked like guys were pretty disinterested. To me, he isn't so much blaming the trade, as he is noting it as a key turning point. Trading Carter wasn't the reason they missed the playoffs, but it was a turning point in the team's confidence and effort. They knew at that point, the season was over.

    And it should be noted that the Kings have always framed this as a short rebuild/retool. Build up some assets and try and take another crack at it with the older core before they're done. And you'd have to assume that's the pitch the players were given too. We're going to bring in some young guys, and then use cap and assets to flesh out the roster. And the Kings have been rumored to be looking for a high end defenseman for a while now, so if im doughty, yeah... im holding management responsible too. The players didn't play as well as they should have, and they need to check that. But if management has a plan, and doesn't get it done, that has to be looked at too. Blake doesn't just get to throw his arms up and shrug. It's his job to find those trades and make those deals if that is in fact part of the plan.
    That’s fair on the Carter front. I wasn’t reading that way, but I see what you mean. Doughty just frustrates me because at the time, he was critical of the trade, as if it made any difference. I think that comes from the great side of Doughty, he’s a competitor who thinks they’re in it as long as it’s mathematically possible.

    In terms of holding management accountable, my thing is I find it annoying that he shoots his mouth off, in that he is being well compensated to be patient. You’re saying maybe management made promises they aren’t keeping - you’re probably right. Doughty is probably my favourite King, this kind of talk just gets me nervous. I’d like to see Blake make some moves to get the proper d etc, but this sort of talk and pressure can lead to rash/bad decisions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illegal_Stick View Post
    That’s fair on the Carter front. I wasn’t reading that way, but I see what you mean. Doughty just frustrates me because at the time, he was critical of the trade, as if it made any difference. I think that comes from the great side of Doughty, he’s a competitor who thinks they’re in it as long as it’s mathematically possible.

    In terms of holding management accountable, my thing is I find it annoying that he shoots his mouth off, in that he is being well compensated to be patient. You’re saying maybe management made promises they aren’t keeping - you’re probably right. Doughty is probably my favourite King, this kind of talk just gets me nervous. I’d like to see Blake make some moves to get the proper d etc, but this sort of talk and pressure can lead to rash/bad decisions.
    We've know for some time that he can let his emotions get the best of him, usually to ill effect. And if he had more time to consider his reply, maybe he'd word things differently. Also, i dont know for sure what Blake told the players, but i do know how he's framed this rebuild to the fans, and id have to expect that the pitches were similar. I dont think the team is a player or two away from being competitive in the playoffs, but i do think they are maybe behind the timeline a bit. They said the goal was playoffs, i have to think that wasn't just lip service to build hype. I said it about Vilardi, but i think its team wide, they under performed if the goal was to get into the playoffs. Whether thats accurate or fair... open to discussion. But to Doughty's point, if the goal is playoffs, they cant sit around waiting for guys to improve and they might need to take some of those assets and get somebody who's ahead of the curve. And that doesnt necessarily mean trade vilardi or trade byfield, but the KIngs do have a pretty massive log jam at center, and they do have a lot of assets that may not be part of this new team. SO, they have cap space and they have assets. If they dont use them this summer, i'd probably be a little upset too.

    As to teh Carter trade and his frustration, i may have missed some comments, but what i saw from the team was, "this wasnt unexpected, but its a hard pill to swallow". And i took that like this was a close friend and somebody that was a valuable member of the team. It's hard to see him go.

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    I'll say it again. Rob Blake of all people should know the best defensemen need to play with the best defensemen, IF they want to win some games. He even said as much way back when Norstrom had a brief training camp hold-out. "I can't play my game without him, they need to sign him now"

    You can spin Doughty's comments a hundred ways. On one hand, MGMT needs to make moves. On the other hand, they don't need to add anymore d-men?

    I know all perspective has been completely lost, but take this with a grain of salt.

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