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    Iím so bored, arenít the Kings two months away from training camp? Im over the off-season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illegal_Stick View Post
    Except that the D played great without him. By that logic we should have had brutal defense since so much relies on Doughty. We need stronger second pair D imo. We may already have them but likely we will need to bring someone in (or have a yet untested prospect surprise us.) I’m simply stating the need for a top pair d was not nearly the same need as offensive help.
    Our D was good, relatively. In absolute sense they weren't good enough. The main problem was the support for the offensive game, breakouts...and in the sense of being competitive in the playoffs there would have to be some pretty damn significant strides made by at least one of the kids. Edler played a significant part in the D being stable and dependable, with smart plays...he's now 1 year older and came back from a significant injury. He's a veteran leader but not someone to be dependent on.

    And I'm not trying to say Durzi or Spence will never be better. I'm simply saying that if we want to speed up the process of building a good playoff team we need to upgrade the defense, not the offense, since many of the Kings' offensive struggles stem from lack of offensive prowess on defense which was pretty glaring after DD went down.

    So - I would be fine with riding it out with the kids on D to see if someone has a breakout season, or maybe if Clarke miraculously proves NHL ready...it's just that IMO if Blake wants to speed up the process NOW he would have to invest in defense rather than offense. And it would be sensible to invest into a LHD if we want to avoid stonewalling Clarke's induction to the team.

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    For those wondering how much cap space we have, the least we have is $3,845,833. This assumes that the last cuts are the players on the bubble earning the least (Andersson, JAD and Moverare). If they send down Kupari instead of Anderson or JAD (because he's waiver exempt), we gain another $113,333. If they send down Bjornfot instead of Moverare (same reason), we gain another $131,667.

    Capfriendly is a little confusing because they are counting too many players. They are currently counting 24 players when calculating our cap space. I've adjusted for that by subtracting Spence's salary from the calculations.

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    Kadri to Calgary 7 x 7. They could be very interesting next season, assuming the main new additions recapture last season's level of play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAKingSteve View Post
    Kadri to Calgary 7 x 7. They could be very interesting next season, assuming the main new additions recapture last season's level of play.
    Came here for the Kardi pick up. Is Brad Treliving, doing something? or is this smoke and mirrors?


    Aside: I did see a Flames fan post a Kings hit (gif) on Kardi (as a leaf)with the caption of "no hard feelings, right?" It took me too long to realize it was Lucic. Jesus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bollocks View Post
    Our D was good, relatively. In absolute sense they weren't good enough. The main problem was the support for the offensive game, breakouts...and in the sense of being competitive in the playoffs there would have to be some pretty damn significant strides made by at least one of the kids. Edler played a significant part in the D being stable and dependable, with smart plays...he's now 1 year older and came back from a significant injury. He's a veteran leader but not someone to be dependent on.

    And I'm not trying to say Durzi or Spence will never be better. I'm simply saying that if we want to speed up the process of building a good playoff team we need to upgrade the defense, not the offense, since many of the Kings' offensive struggles stem from lack of offensive prowess on defense which was pretty glaring after DD went down.

    So - I would be fine with riding it out with the kids on D to see if someone has a breakout season, or maybe if Clarke miraculously proves NHL ready...it's just that IMO if Blake wants to speed up the process NOW he would have to invest in defense rather than offense. And it would be sensible to invest into a LHD if we want to avoid stonewalling Clarke's induction to the team.
    I'd like to touch on this because i mostly agree. Our D is "good", but it is not "great". I don't think they are bad at breaking the puck out of our zone, per se... they do a great job of getting the puck up and out to the forwards, but we don't have a guy that is likely to skate the puck out and lead the attack in those instances. But more importantly, we don't generate enough goals from the backend, and it risks making the team a bit one dimensional. Opponents can afford to play off the defense because they know we don't have a dangerous shot from the point.

    I also think our forward group, despite the lack of finishing, plays a really good possession game, and i think that helps lessen the load on D. The Kings have assembled a fantastic forward group at generating shots and retrieving pucks. When you outshoot your opponents, and keep them working in their own zone, there's going to be less pressure on your D to play actual defense.

    The Kings have a number of spots that they can upgrade in order to become a contender, but i think the most glaring and immediate need is on D, and specifically at LHD, for the reasons you mention. We need more size and skill on our blue line, and i think having that would bring huge dividends beyond the obvious upgrade at one position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helvetica View Post
    I'd like to touch on this because i mostly agree. Our D is "good", but it is not "great". I don't think they are bad at breaking the puck out of our zone, per se... they do a great job of getting the puck up and out to the forwards, but we don't have a guy that is likely to skate the puck out and lead the attack in those instances. But more importantly, we don't generate enough goals from the backend, and it risks making the team a bit one dimensional. Opponents can afford to play off the defense because they know we don't have a dangerous shot from the point.
    One thing I'd like to point out to this point. A side benefit/consequence of opponents collapsing back wingers since they didn't fear either 1) the speed at which the puck moved to the point and back in on net, or 2) the overall ability for our point shots to beat a goaltender from distance. Is that our younger D have become very adept at sneaking in the backside and down low to help create oddman chances or help retrieval of the puck. Admittedly there's the potential for outnumbered chances the other way but if you think back at how many times you were surprised to see Mikey/Toby/Durzi or even Moverare down low in the zone its far more than before. I do think that Yawney is emphasizing this off of a read where the winger has collapsed low and has to move back high when the puck moves out that way (offside/backside particularly) creating just that bit of separation when the D activates. There's always something to be said for that heavy shot from the point that is going to create uncertainty but growing this ability to have 5 man in unit attacks is going to be a key point of emphasis for growing the production of this D as it is currently assembled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jammer06 View Post
    One thing I'd like to point out to this point. A side benefit/consequence of opponents collapsing back wingers since they didn't fear either 1) the speed at which the puck moved to the point and back in on net, or 2) the overall ability for our point shots to beat a goaltender from distance. Is that our younger D have become very adept at sneaking in the backside and down low to help create oddman chances or help retrieval of the puck. Admittedly there's the potential for outnumbered chances the other way but if you think back at how many times you were surprised to see Mikey/Toby/Durzi or even Moverare down low in the zone its far more than before. I do think that Yawney is emphasizing this off of a read where the winger has collapsed low and has to move back high when the puck moves out that way (offside/backside particularly) creating just that bit of separation when the D activates. There's always something to be said for that heavy shot from the point that is going to create uncertainty but growing this ability to have 5 man in unit attacks is going to be a key point of emphasis for growing the production of this D as it is currently assembled.
    totally agree. They are definitely trying to get guys activated in the offensive zone, and it's working. And while i'd love to have a big heavy shot from the point, i want to clarify that i'm talking shots in general. They don't seemingly have a guy that's a threat to score, whether that's with a heavy shot from the point, or simply slipping down lower in the zone and getting off a quick accurate wrister. Makar is an extreme example obviously, but that guy is dangerous in all situations, with and without the puck. And his ability to pass and shoot is what truly keeps other teams guessing. Durzi has the ability to get involved in the offensive zone, but he lacks a great shot, and it winds up making him a bit one dimensional. They need a guy who's a legit threat to score.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAKingSteve View Post
    Kadri to Calgary 7 x 7. They could be very interesting next season, assuming the main new additions recapture last season's level of play.
    IMO Calgary’s ceiling is higher than last year with the recent moves they made. I think Sutter will enjoy Kadri’s grit and can tone him down if he gets out of hand.
    The Pacific is going to be better especially if Vegas stays healthy and Campbell plays well in Edm.

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    My in depth 2022 off season report:

    I'm bored.

    I moved from LA to Oregon in 2017. I moved from Oregon to South Carolina in May of this year. Finally mostly settled in a new house. Moved with 6 cats over 6 days in the car. Stayed with dad for a month. It's hot. Bugs are huge. Not quite looking forward to having to start games at 10:30pm. BUT - the one good thing is I can see one Kings game a year at the Hurricanes stadium. Maybe I'll even watch them and become some poser Hurricanes/Panthers fan.. Jk. Dirty thoughts.

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