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    Quote Originally Posted by Pucker25 View Post
    The Kings were 5th in the league Faceoffs and scored 239 goals. Colorado was 28th and scored 312. Florida was 23rd and scored 340. Somethin tells me faceoffs aren't an issue that needs to be addressed...
    this is why I quit putting the faceoff stats in the regular season GDT stats. It is meaningless from game to game. Within a game, yes, but overall it is a useless stat. Top teams are always at the bottom of the faceoff % and bottom teams near the top. I have kept track of it over the past 5 years or so.

    Individual leaders, though, do make a difference. But it has to be a guy who takes a lot of faceoffs for it to have any real meaning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DryKing View Post
    Regular season Faceoff Win % - leading all players was Patrice Bergeron with 61.9%, Kopitar was at 56.9%. The only other player with over a 60% win rate was John Tavares at 60.6%. All other players above Kopitar had a differential that was negligible.

    So how do you propose we get either Bergeron or Tavares?
    Dry and Helvetica, I was "venting", trying to think what is best for the kings. But yeah. a strong face off is needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pucker25 View Post
    The Kings were 5th in the league Faceoffs and scored 239 goals. Colorado was 28th and scored 312. Florida was 23rd and scored 340. Somethin tells me faceoffs aren't an issue that needs to be addressed...
    Really? and where did this stat cone from?

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    "We're talking faceoffs, faceoffs"

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    Quote Originally Posted by PTDP View Post
    Really? and where did this stat cone from?
    pretty much anywhere you get basic hockey stats...

    https://www.nhl.com/stats/teams?reportType=season&seasonFrom=20212022&season To=20212022&gameType=2&filter=gamesPlayed,gte,1&so rt=faceoffWinPct&page=0&pageSize=50

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    Look how close the top dozen or so teams are. The difference is negligible. This is a nothing stat.

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    Let’s just kill the faceoffs stats as nice to track for the Statisticians, offense zone? Defensive zone? Power play? Penalty play? % leading to a two, leading to assist for a goal? Short, even, advantage? My brain hurts, there are basic stats like PP and PK that dominate this teams needs for improvement

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    Quote Originally Posted by PTDP View Post
    Can not score goals with out the puck. Puck control is huge
    This isn’t the NFL, Control of the puck is not exclusively based on faceoffs. Control is based on collecting the puck in your own end and entering the opposing teams own end. What is the expectation for puck control? Where’s the turnover or puck possession stats in your assessment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sevenhole View Post
    This isn’t the NFL, Control of the puck is not exclusively based on faceoffs. Control is based on collecting the puck in your own end and entering the opposing teams own end. What is the expectation for puck control? Where’s the turnover or puck possession stats in your assessment.
    Face off wins are pretty important. But........if it makes everyone happy, I just got back from Vegas and I LOST every NHL bet I placed.
    Thanks Blues, Flames, and yes the Canes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sevenhole View Post
    This isn’t the NFL,
    Let hope this great sport does NOT turn into the NFL.

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