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    Quote Originally Posted by Helvetica View Post
    That's not happening. We can all agree Quick has looked bad, but he' snot being asked to retire mid season. It just isnt happening.
    Okay then he needs to be the number 3 goaltender, and Blake needs to find someone better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Laviguer View Post
    Okay then he needs to be the number 3 goaltender, and Blake needs to find someone better.
    Quick's numbers are actually in pretty good company as a backup. When your top goalie has a save % of .901 and is 15-3 it's obvious that the team prioritizes offense over defense, and defensively the team simply isn't that good. Sure up the defense and then you can start pointing fingers at the goal tending but if you watched the Tampa game it was easy to see the Kings were getting outmatched in their own zone consistently all game.

    If, as a coach, you are worried about playing Quick, then start giving him favorable match ups and see how he does. Don't get me wrong, I don't think Copely or Quick are the long-term answer but we also can't expect them to play like All-Stars which is what they would need to be to put up good numbers on this team currently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DryKing View Post
    If, as a coach, you are worried about playing Quick, then start giving him favorable match ups and see how he does. Don't get me wrong, I don't think Copely or Quick are the long-term answer but we also can't expect them to play like All-Stars which is what they would need to be to put up good numbers on this team currently.
    Once again, I don't know what the hell Todd is doing. If you want to sincerely try to get a win with your backup, who is Quick, you give him better chances to do so. If Copley is Todd's starter, why not put him against TB and open the back-to-back with Quick against the lesser opponent, the Panthers. That isn't even tough decision making. It's the obvious choice. Todd did this same exact thing before with the SJ and NJ games.

    And just to stir the pot... It's almost like Todd doesn't like Quick... like Quick embarrassed him earlier in his life.**


    **No. I don't really believe this. But this decision making in how to use his starter and back-up is baffling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DryKing View Post
    Quick's numbers are actually in pretty good company as a backup. When your top goalie has a save % of .901 and is 15-3 it's obvious that the team prioritizes offense over defense, and defensively the team simply isn't that good. Sure up the defense and then you can start pointing fingers at the goal tending but if you watched the Tampa game it was easy to see the Kings were getting outmatched in their own zone consistently all game.

    If, as a coach, you are worried about playing Quick, then start giving him favorable match ups and see how he does. Don't get me wrong, I don't think Copely or Quick are the long-term answer but we also can't expect them to play like All-Stars which is what they would need to be to put up good numbers on this team currently.
    Quick's numbers suck. Period.
    Bottom 5 in GSAA. He's been in the bottom for most of the last 5 years except for last year. The Kings aren't great in their own zone like they were under Sutter, but Quick is hanging with Elvis and the other scrubs for GSAA. Copley is ever so slightly positive for GSAA; which for a career journeyman could indicate that our defense isn't so terrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewCastle View Post
    Once again, I don't know what the hell Todd is doing. If you want to sincerely try to get a win with your backup, who is Quick, you give him better chances to do so. If Copley is Todd's starter, why not put him against TB and open the back-to-back with Quick against the lesser opponent, the Panthers. That isn't even tough decision making. It's the obvious choice. Todd did this same exact thing before with the SJ and NJ games.
    alternatively, if you play your starter against the lesser team, you have a better chance of securing those two points. Coach probably knows that the second game of a back to back, on teh road, against TB is going to be a tough match up. So, go out, give everything on game one to at least secure the split, then hope you can catch a break on the second night. Every point matters right now. So if you throw quick in against florida, and he ****s the bed, and you take a tired team into TB and cant get that win either...

    i think this is simply a matter of hedging you bets.

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    Clarke with a hat trick tonight. He's scored 10 goals + 9 assists in 9 games since being sent down after the WJCs. Not sure you want to trade him unless there's a huge return. https://twitter.com/OHLHockey/status...fCZ0qUgeKaclGQ

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    Quote Originally Posted by brasspucks View Post
    Clarke with a hat trick tonight. He's scored 10 goals + 9 assists in 9 games since being sent down after the WJCs. Not sure you want to trade him unless there's a huge return. https://twitter.com/OHLHockey/status...fCZ0qUgeKaclGQ
    To answer my own question, I think him and Byfield are the untouchables. They're the future Doughty and Kopitar.

    Also, those numbers (10+9) are why I wondered about sending him back the OHL. It's an interesting debate, but is it more valuable to turn him loose to dominate down there, or to struggle and learn with selected match-ups up with the big club. Or was it purely an economic, contract decision. Gotta respect the alchemy required in all the GM decisions.

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    I'm not worried about Quick, his contract expires at the end of the season. His last two games he has played, Kings weren't expected to win, so it gave time off for Copley. I don't want to see Copley get lit up against Carolina, like he did against Nashville. People will lose their mind, however, I would rather see Quick in against Carolina. Imploding now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice24 View Post
    I'm not worried about Quick, his contract expires at the end of the season. His last two games he has played, Kings weren't expected to win, so it gave time off for Copley. I don't want to see Copley get lit up against Carolina, like he did against Nashville. People will lose their mind, however, I would rather see Quick in against Carolina. Imploding now
    Not expected to win is not the same as not even competing. Quick had an .800 save percentage in that game.

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    Lias Andersson is starting to heat up in the AHL, now with 35 points in 35 games and 5 points in his last 2 games. Any chance we see him get a call up or hold enough value to get packaged in a trade?

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