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I expect Holland to go all in for Tkachuk. Multiple 1st round picks, Fiala and any prospects Ottawa wants will certainly be available.
 
Clif said:
Works for me.

Although a dream scenario is Larkin becomes available and that type of package goes back for him. Stevie Y and Holland should make a deal at some point.
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That'd would be preferable IMO. He'd be cheaper to acquire, is on a better contract and in a position of need.

Besides, who plays center on a 1st line with Brady? Kempe? Panarin? If Ken splashes all that's worth to get Brady and he're left with QB and then a 3rd line center and no top 4 puck moving, PP-capable D-man, this team is worse off.
 
Bollocks said:
That'd would be preferable IMO. He'd be cheaper to acquire, is on a better contract and in a position of need.

Besides, who plays center on a 1st line with Brady? Kempe? Panarin? If Ken splashes all that's worth to get Brady and he're left with QB and then a 3rd line center and no top 4 puck moving, PP-capable D-man, this team is worse off.
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The idea of Larkin is interesting. A #1C who is signed for five more years at a good cap hit, but I also wonder why we wouldn’t be trying to put a package together for Robert Thomas who is a #1C and is signed for several years at a rather similar (and modest) cap hit. Either would work for me.

Tkachuk would have to be the first of other moves. Maybe Holland has a plan but this would not make all that much sense to me, seeing as though the greatest needs are a #1C and a top pair defender.
 
SirJW said:
To get Tkachuk will take more than picks, we'd have to give up better assets than Fiala.
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Brady has 2 years left on his contract with no indication public or through back channels that he intends on staying in Ottawa. It starts there. The fanbase (and media) has soured on him and his disappointing playoff performance is the latest thing to cause more conflict. Maybe this all blows over and he re-signs but it sure doesn’t seem likely to me.

While Tkachuk certainly is more valuable than Fiala let’s not forget that Kevin produces points at an almost identical pace as Brady over the past 5 seasons (BT 338 KF 330) and he is signed for 3 more years. He‘s had no issues with the LA fanbase or media and seems to be well liked by his teammates.

Fiala is smaller, older and far less physical so the Kings would need to pay a premium if they want Tkachuk but Fiala is an excellent centerpiece for a team looking to continue to compete while adding extra assets to get better in the short and long term.
 
Clif said:
Works for me.

Although a dream scenario is Larkin becomes available and that type of package goes back for him. Stevie Y and Holland should make a deal at some point.
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Larkin would be ideal. I don’t think Detroit trades him. There’s just very few 1Cs available anywhere. If Larkin is dealt the Wings are creating a big hole in their lineup that they won’t be able to fill any time soon.
 
Statue4Deano said:
Brady has 2 years left on his contract with no indication public or through back channels that he intends on staying in Ottawa. It starts there. The fanbase (and media) has soured on him and his disappointing playoff performance is the latest thing to cause more conflict. Maybe this all blows over and he re-signs but it sure doesn’t seem likely to me.

While Tkachuk certainly is more valuable than Fiala let’s not forget that Kevin produces points at an almost identical pace as Brady over the past 5 seasons (BT 338 KF 330) and he is signed for 3 more years. He‘s had no issues with the LA fanbase or media and seems to be well liked by his teammates.

Fiala is smaller, older and far less physical so the Kings would need to pay a premium if they want Tkachuk but Fiala is an excellent centerpiece for a team looking to continue to compete while adding extra assets to get better in the short and long term.
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Ottawa has been sneakily trying to trade him for a few seasons now - understandably their asking price is high which has cooled suitors. There is rumors that they have extra incentive to get him moved this offseason, so possibly the price may become more realistic.

I think he'd be a great addition to our roster, keeping in mind that he projects a sharp decline in regards to points. The amount of punishment he has already put his body through is pretty remarkable.

Fiala would be a great fit in Ottawa - the main question is how he will recover from his injury. If healthy, I think Fiala /2nd / prospect gets it done.
 
Statue4Deano said:
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I expect Holland to go all in for Tkachuk. Multiple 1st round picks, Fiala and any prospects Ottawa wants will certainly be available.
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What evidence?
And that is not enough.
They want Byfield, Clarke and or Laf.
And won't happen without.
Our hole at Center would still be there.
This is not happening.
Weird calling a winger a centerpiece.
Fiala has a NMC, I believe.
Who wants to go to Ottawa?

As far as other guys comments,

Bipolar is pining for a full rebuild and in the next breath wanting to trade on of the young 3, Byf, Clarke , Laf.
If you haven't watched Ken from Friday people should.
Byf slated at 1c.
1 c is too hard to acquire, expensive and none are UFA's.
We are looking for 2 and or 3 c's
 
Getting a 1c is not possible and we are not tearing it down with Holland here for 2 more.

DD is a number on defensive d and Clarke the #1 Offensive D.
We are already there, no need to get caught up on ranking them overall.
Give Drew the C and propose a team friendly contract during the season.
If he does not accept try to get him to agree to a trade.
I think discussing a lineup should revolve around players currently signed, just too many possibilities of what Ken may do.
Lol Holland is not putting Wooley and Bruise on the Kings next year.
Why talk about impossibilities?
Ken is here for 2 more season, no rebuild.
There may not be one trade at all.
Likely there will be signings.

According to Ken , they are fine on D and need 2 and 3 C's and I agree.
2019 draft was when we had the most picks and Blake and Co ruined the rebuild right there.
Absolutely trade Kumepr and absolutely do not trade Forsy.
You cant throw young goalies to the wolves and have a mentor that is absolutely caving.
Statue4Deano said:
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Sick of Dooley schilling and his articles suck.
He needs to go, more than anyone
Statue4Deano said:
It’s embarrassing how much better the immediate and near future looks if we’d held onto one of Durzi/Roy/Walker, Faber, Spence and Villardi instead of doing whatever the **** Blake attempted to do.
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And how complete do do the last few years would have been.
Who wants to be a GM , fail to build a contender and then rebuild. Durzi was a liability, Roy , Walker replaceable and not worth what they signed for , for the Kings. Faber got us Fiala , who kept us in the playoffs for the Kopi, DD runs. Vilardi plays with top end talent we don't have but PLD was a choke move.
Spence asked to leave.
Its cherry picking to ignore what happend between old moves and say we'd be right there next year with these guys.

DD wants to stay and needs to put his money where his month is. He is still very good defensively.
 
Dr. Tran said:
If Doughty can accept the role as a 3rd pair Dman with a salary that matches, I'm all in favor of resigning him after next season. If not I'd let him walk. I wish for everyone's sake he retires but we can't force him.
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He has clearly stated that he thinks he can play 2-3 more years. He is not retiring
 
The Nuts said:
What evidence?
And that is not enough.
They want Byfield, Clarke and or Laf.
And won't happen without.
Our hole at Center would still be there.
This is not happening.
Weird calling a winger a centerpiece.
Fiala has a NMC, I believe.
Who wants to go to Ottawa?

As far as other guys comments,

Bipolar is pining for a full rebuild and in the next breath wanting to trade on of the young 3, Byf, Clarke , Laf.
If you haven't watched Ken from Friday people should.
Byf slated at 1c.
1 c is too hard to acquire, expensive and none are UFA's.
We are looking for 2 and or 3 c's
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There will be no rebuild. This organization will exist in the black hole for as long as Luc is in charge.

Brady Tkachuk is a 70 point a season winger. Kevin Fiala is a 70 point a season winger. Ottawa getting a cost controlled 1st liner winger back is the type of centerpiece they’d need in return for their Captain.

Yes the Kings would need to add more to make it work and no Fiala does not have an NMC starting 7/1. It turns into a 10 team NTC. That could be a sticking point but we’ve seen players waive NTCs every season. It’s make even more sense after the Kings added Panarin. Fiala is a 2nd line winger as long as Panarin is on the Kings. If he wants 1st line winger/PP1 minutes he’s going to need to play somewhere else.
 
Statue4Deano said:
There will be no rebuild. This organization will exist in the black hole for as long as Luc is in charge.

Brady Tkachuk is a 70 point a season winger. Kevin Fiala is a 70 point a season winger. Ottawa getting a cost controlled 1st liner winger back is the type of centerpiece they’d need in return for their Captain.

Yes the Kings would need to add more to make it work and no Fiala does not have an NMC starting 7/1. It turns into a 10 team NTC. That could be a sticking point but we’ve seen players waive NTCs every season. It’s make even more sense after the Kings added Panarin. Fiala is a 2nd line winger as long as Panarin is on the Kings. If he wants 1st line winger/PP1 minutes he’s going to need to play somewhere else.
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I'd also add that B.Tkachuk is not a better player than Fiala, but he carries more value currently due to wearing the C and being ~3 years younger. He also is a blend of physical/skill that is hard to find.

Interestingly, Fiala is a better fit within Ottawa's system than Tkachuk, while Tkachuk is a better fit in LA's system.

I could easily see Fiala averaging over a PPG in the Ottawa system, while Tkachuk's points likely decline with LA.

Side note: I find it sad that some Kings fans don't understand how good Fiala really is.
 
DryKing said:
I'd also add that B.Tkachuk is not a better player than Fiala, but he carries more value currently due to wearing the C and being ~3 years younger. He also is a blend of physical/skill that is hard to find.

Interestingly, Fiala is a better fit within Ottawa's system than Tkachuk, while Tkachuk is a better fit in LA's system.

I could easily see Fiala averaging over a PPG in the Ottawa system, while Tkachuk's points likely decline with LA.

Side note: I find it sad that some Kings fans don't understand how good Fiala really is.
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Maybe Fiala is under-appreciated but part of that is because he has a very unique style. He’s puck dominant and an excellent passer but he’s a shoot first, dangle second, pass as a last resort counterattack wing. He’s got a heliocentric mindset on offense and that makes it tough to find longterm Center. He also has a precision to his offensive game style that when things are clicking it’s beautiful hockey but when he’s off it’s very tough to watch. There just aren’t many successful NHLers like him.
 
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