Hiller Hotseat Thread

[Statue4Deano]

I’m fully on board with Hiller/Luc anyone else responsible going down with this ship.

I think this team is so poorly coached and built that they’ve got a shot at a Top 5 pick.

I’d be fine with Holland remaining in charge.

 

[05/29/93]

This reminds me of the 2006 team collapse, though that team was far better the first part of that season compared with this one. Then, DL tried to retool on the fly his first year, but then saw that a total demolition was needed. Now, it is needed again, from top to bottom. I'm fine with KH staying as GM as long as he pivots and goes full rebuild.

 

[Nyssa42]

This thread from Jon Rosen this morning is very interesting - he's talking about Dan Beckerman (as the "good guy")

 

[ICE24]

I’m fully on board with Hiller/Luc anyone else responsible going down with this ship.

I think this team is so poorly coached and built that they’ve got a shot at a Top 5 pick.

I’d be fine with Holland remaining in charge.

As long as they extend Holland for another 5 years, I'm fine

 

[DarkLeftHand]

This thread from Jon Rosen this morning is very interesting - he's talking about Dan Beckerman (as the "good guy")

Any further insight as to what he’s referring to specifically? Is he saying it’s an HR type nightmare? Or that there is a pervasive lazy/clueless attitude that we see with nepotistic type regimes?

 

[Moog]

Any further insight as to what he’s referring to specifically? Is he saying it’s an HR type nightmare? Or that there is a pervasive lazy/clueless attitude that we see with nepotistic type regimes?

Probably yes.....and yes.

Think about it, you really can't have one without the other.
HR nightmares occur in a nepo environment for those that are not part of the nepo circle.

 

[McSorleyFan]

I'd really like to know what Beckerman and Anschutz think of this hot mess. I guess as long as there's profits they don't care?

 

[Dr. Tran]

For anyone saying it doesn’t matter if Hiller is fired now, you’re wrong. Even if they don’t make the playoffs they have to get rid of him & the stench of his coaching. That’s not to say others should keep their jobs. I’m looking at you Luc. My former favorite player who’s tarnished his legacy.

 

[Illegal_Stick]

What’s so infuriating about this franchise is how easily they disposed of Lombardi (and not saying he shouldn’t have been fired) but the undying loyalty we have shown to the likes of Robitaille, Hiller and Blake (remember he’d be here if he had wanted to) who won exactly nothing.

 

[Illegal_Stick]

For anyone saying it doesn’t matter if Hiller is fired now, you’re wrong. Even if they don’t make the playoffs they have to get rid of him & the stench of his coaching. That’s not to say others should keep their jobs. I’m looking at you Luc. My former favorite player who’s tarnished his legacy.

I don’t know. If we accept we’re missing the playoffs, dont we want to tank this ?Hes the man for that job.

 

[Clif]

I don’t know. If we accept we’re missing the playoffs, dont we want to tank this ?Hes the man for that job.

Hiller hasn’t been fired today so I’d imagine that answers that. But as a hypothetical:

1) firing him shows accountability still matters
2) If the team started playing more competitively then playoffs don’t matter that much. It’s all about next season. Ending the season on a more positive note is a better setup for next year than ending on a miserable one. DET missed last season but they got close with Todd after a terrible start and fired coach. They’re much better this year.

 

[hokiecat]

Any further insight as to what he’s referring to specifically? Is he saying it’s an HR type nightmare? Or that there is a pervasive lazy/clueless attitude that we see with nepotistic type regimes?

I definitely think there's the lazy/clueless attitude. I've never been a fan of Blake's surfing buddies. Ooops, I mean our development staff. It feels like the Kings have strugged to develop develop players and most of the guys teaching are former Kings players. I have mentioned in the past that it feels like academic inbreeding like colleges/universities who hire their own grads. I've also been underwhelmed with Stoll. He's improved but I'll never forget/forgive the time when Patrick threw it to him in the COVID era and Stoll was clueless because he watching March madness. You have one job... which I guess was being the fall guy for Vegas drug bust and then he's able to goof off at work with no repurcussions.

One example Rosen cited was the Kings dropping Jesse Cohen while he was in chemo and then bringing him back as a freelance creator for less and without needing to provide insurance. It also sounded like he had more (but I assume cannot share since if the leadership is vindictive then they'll try to figure out who said what and extract their revenge).

 

[empire]