Just thinking we could''ve had this guy....

LGK : He sucks!!! Byfield is better.
Practically every other hockey site : Stutzle would have been the consensus #1 overall in a 2020 redraft.

The Kings actually drafted very well that year in spite of the Stutzle miss. Faber, Byfield, and Laffy all look to be NHL'ers for the next decade. Grans is finally getting NHL time in Philly. Jamsen and Chromiak could both potentially play NHL games.
 
LGK : He sucks!!! Byfield is better.
Practically every other hockey site : Stutzle would have been the consensus #1 overall in a 2020 redraft.

The Kings actually drafted very well that year in spite of the Stutzle miss. Faber, Byfield, and Laffy all look to be NHL'ers for the next decade. Grans is finally getting NHL time in Philly. Jamsen and Chromiak could both potentially play NHL games.

1. Nobody here really thinks Stutzle sucks or that ATM QB is better.
2. Redrafts are about as idiotic hockey fan entertainment as they get. It's literally just Excel spreadsheeting based around what hockey experts and statistics state is at the moment true.

And it's not a miss yet. Frankly, for as reputable poster as you are I'd expect better than to proclaim this as a "miss" so soon. On par with "Kings won't win the Cup with Kopitar as the top center" shenanigans that were popular pre-2012 around here...

Can we just remember how frickin' one-dimensional Kopitar was for the first 3 seasons? How he sucked at faceoffs for the first 5 seasons? And he had no injury excuses in the most delicate years of transitioning into the NHL hockey and absolutely ZERO pressure to perform.

Players grow and develop, and those with heads screwed on right do so better than those without, and QB definitely has his head screwed on right. He's in his sophomore slump, get over it.
 
The Kings actually drafted very well that year in spite of the Stutzle miss. Faber, Byfield, and Laffy all look to be NHL'ers for the next decade. Grans is finally getting NHL time in Philly. Jamsen and Chromiak could both potentially play NHL games.

2019 looks like a good draft for the Kings as well will 6 players already have gotten NHL time, and I think 2023 and 2024 will shake out well. It's really impressive what Blake is able to do when he keeps draft picks (instead of constantly trading them away).

Really hope we see a shift with the Kings holding on to their picks, going forward, and focusing on building the team around (home grown) youth.

If we could get Blake/Luc to begin utilizing the Jr Kings to identify and draft local talent we'd really be onto something.
 
2019 looks like a good draft for the Kings as well will 6 players already have gotten NHL time, and I think 2023 and 2024 will shake out well. It's really impressive what Blake is able to do when he keeps draft picks (instead of constantly trading them away).

Really hope we see a shift with the Kings holding on to their picks, going forward, and focusing on building the team around (home grown) youth.

If we could get Blake/Luc to begin utilizing the Jr Kings to identify and draft local talent we'd really be onto something.

I am still annoyed that we passed on Dustin Wolf during his draft year. It would have been the perfect story to pick the local kid who DOMINATED with the Jr Kings. We could have taken a flyer on him sooner than the Flames did. I know smaller goalies get overlooked a lot but that is why Wolf fell to the end of the draft.

Speaking of 2019, I wonder when Kaliyev gets back. I'm curious if Hiller's coaching could rehab his development like so many of the other prospects.
 
I am still annoyed that we passed on Dustin Wolf during his draft year. It would have been the perfect story to pick the local kid who DOMINATED with the Jr Kings. We could have taken a flyer on him sooner than the Flames did. I know smaller goalies get overlooked a lot but that is why Wolf fell to the end of the draft.

Speaking of 2019, I wonder when Kaliyev gets back. I'm curious if Hiller's coaching could rehab his development like so many of the other prospects.
Agreed, skipping on Wolf still baffles me. It actually makes me really mad when I think about it. I get missing on drafting a player like Jason Robertson as he was off the board by the time our 2nd round pick came up, and usually our 11th overall on him didn't make sense at the time - but how do we skip on a player like Wolf considering we had 9 picks that draft and the Kings staff knew was extremely good. It's just sad.

I really hope you are on to something with Kaliyev and HIller is able to help turn things around for him. Kaliyev works hard and is someone I would like to see succeed. Plus we badly need a sniper.
 
I am still annoyed that we passed on Dustin Wolf during his draft year. It would have been the perfect story to pick the local kid who DOMINATED with the Jr Kings. We could have taken a flyer on him sooner than the Flames did. I know smaller goalies get overlooked a lot but that is why Wolf fell to the end of the draft.

Speaking of 2019, I wonder when Kaliyev gets back. I'm curious if Hiller's coaching could rehab his development like so many of the other prospects.
On Earth 2.0 Kings draft Wolf and he’s Quick’s understudy.

Instead Quick, as a Ranger, sent a signed stick to Wolf, as a Flame.
 
He's also a career +/- -64 player despite all his points which would never fly on the Kings.

I'm good with our pick.
LOL I like how some Kings fans go to is the "+/-" stats to try and make something like this seem even "okay" to as why we actually didn't draft the way better player that a lot of us kept wanting. But lets play that card. Byfield is a -2 10pts in 24 games. Stutzle is a +3 28pts in 22 games... Hmmmm. Yeahhhh. I think I would have taken Stutzle. And those wearing the rose tinted glasses and prefer blaming Fiala for everything yet Byfield is more of a joke this year instead of being better.

Hence why upper management needs to go and start from there.
 
This debate about Stutzle vs Byfield is getting old and I'm tired of it. Can it already. I don't need Stutzle and I'm not going to change my mind, so there.
 

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