Kings reserve list

[jt]

Capfriendly says says they have 61 https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/kings.

Elite Prospects says they have 65 (if I counted right): https://www.eliteprospects.com/team/79/los-angeles-kings

The players in question appear to be:
Jamsen Aatu
Andre Lee
Alexander Dergachyov
Ben Meehan
Braden Doyle
David Hrenak
Juho Markkanen

I would expect Capfriendly to be accurate but Elite Prospects seems to have it right.

Anyone want to help figure out their list?

 

[VCRW]

Run the list by Hoven, jt. John seems to be the guy on top of the prospect pool these days.

Lotsa names to talk about though.

 

[jammer06]

There's no way Kings still have rights to Dergachyov is there? I mean they drafted him in 15 and he's 25 now.

 

[jt]

I'm far from an expert on this, but here's what THW says: https://thehockeywriters.com/nhl-reserve-lists-rosters-explained/

Let’s not forget about players drafted from overseas. First, there’s this thing called an “NHL Transfer Agreement,” which involves the NHL and the overseas league. While the NHL has transfer agreements with the top leagues in Sweden and Finland, there are no such agreements between the NHL and the KHL or the top Swiss league.

Here’s one of the reasons it makes a difference: clubs that draft players from leagues with an agreement retain the exclusive rights to negotiate a contract with that player for four years (if drafted at age 18 or 19) or two years (drafted at age 20 or older). If there is no transfer agreement between the league from which a player is drafted and the NHL, the drafting team retains exclusive rights indefinitely.

So if I'm reading this right, they own his rights until he dies and probably not after that.

 

[santiclaws]

So if I'm reading this right, they own his rights until he dies and probably not after that.

That's just poor asset management.

 

[jt]

What's confusing to me is Capfriendly's number of 61 and I can't find a place there that lists all the players they say are on the Kings' reserve list. Looking at the list of players in question, it makes me think Capfriendly is wrong, unless they know something Elite Prospects doesn't - like the Kings renounced rights, which wouldn't make any sense since they're nowhere near the 90 player cap.

Jamsen Aatu: 2020 pick
Andre Lee: 2019 pick from USHL and then he went to college
Alexander Dergachyov 2015 pick from Russia
Ben Meehan 2020 pick
Braden Doyle 2019 pick from college then he went to the BCHL
David Hrenak 2018 pick from college and he's still there
Juho Markkanen 2020 pick

 

[jammer06]

If thats the rule then thats the rule. Usually it feels like the NHL would rather discourage doing business with entities it doesn't have something hashed out with. I was more expecting they would have their rights for 1-2 years or something to make doing business with them onerous.

 

[jammer06]

What's confusing to me is Capfriendly's number of 61 and I can't find a place there that lists all the players they say are on the Kings' reserve list. Looking at the list of players in question, it makes me think Capfriendly is wrong, unless they know something Elite Prospects doesn't - like the Kings renounced rights, which wouldn't make any sense since they're nowhere near the 90 player cap.

Jamsen Aatu: 2020 pick
Andre Lee: 2019 pick from USHL and then he went to college
Alexander Dergachyov 2015 pick from Russia
Ben Meehan 2020 pick
Braden Doyle 2019 pick from college then he went to the BCHL
David Hrenak 2018 pick from college and he's still there
Juho Markkanen 2020 pick

That looks right, I think Capfriendly is great with the contract stuff but I'm sure they don't have the same network on the other side of it.

 

[VCRW]

Run the list by Hoven, jt. John seems to be the guy on top of the prospect pool these days.

Lotsa names to talk about though.

He answers his tweets.

https://twitter.com/mayorNHL