Marner Watch

[hokiecat]

Agreed, though Marner also puts the Kings in a totally different success window. That, plus keeping Greentree, I feel doesn't make them a whole lot better last season (probably a wash to be honest) but makes them significantly better over the next 4.

We still need to see how Greentree's career goes, though, to properly speculate.

Greentree is going to be a generic middle or bottom 6 player. I'll bet on it. I said 2 years ago that he wasn't the best player on his line-- baby Protas was-- and he should be judged accordingly.

 

[DryKing]

Greentree is going to be a generic middle or bottom 6 player. I'll bet on it. I said 2 years ago that he wasn't the best player on his line-- baby Protas was-- and he should be judged accordingly.

I agree with you that Protas was the best player on that line, and he has excelled during his first season in the AHL (66 points in 69 regular season games, 6 points in 6 playoff games). I'd argue, however, that does not limit Greentree from being an impact player / top 6 in the NHL.

Time will tell, but if the Rangers can actually develop a player for a change - Greentree will be solid (though his skating remains the wild card).

 

[Ranma]

From a long-term perspective it's a no brainer, but it would potentially have some pretty frustrating short-term turn of events...

Would it be worth it? Absolutely. It just wouldn't be such a boost as it was to Vegas. He turned Vegas into a contender...that wouldn't happen with the Kings.



I really don't think Ken trades for Panarin if he lands Marner.

The most likely scenario would be he sends out Greentree for a different trade deadline acquisiton. One that would more likely be a classic TDL overpay, unlike Panarin.

Had the Kings somehow acquired Marner, the team certainly would have needed more help to compete for the Stanley Cup. Marner was never the be-all-and-end-all solution. I agree that the organization likely wouldn't have gone after Panarin if Marner was on the team, but can you imagine having both?

Part of the thinking in acquiring Marner was also setting up an environment that would appeal to Connor McDavid should he elect for free agency after the 2027-28 season. The two displayed great chemistry playing together for Team Canada.

The drawback would be GM Ken Holland himself. Why would McDavid leave the Oilers, whom Holland help position to go nowhere in the postseason with lacking rosters over the years, particularly at goaltending, only to join another team managed by Holland with question marks at goalie as well?

 

[dneprovec]

who the hell is Brett Howden

 

[aragorn]

Why would McDavid leave the Oilers, whom Holland help position to go nowhere in the postseason with lacking rosters over the years, particularly at goaltending, only to join another team managed by Holland with question marks at goalie as well?

Question marks at goalie? That's by far the least of our worries.

 

[Clif]

Had the Kings somehow acquired Marner, the team certainly would have needed more help to compete for the Stanley Cup. Marner was never the be-all-and-end-all solution. I agree that the organization likely wouldn't have gone after Panarin if Marner was on the team, but can you imagine having both?

Part of the thinking in acquiring Marner was also setting up an environment that would appeal to Connor McDavid should he elect for free agency after the 2027-28 season. The two displayed great chemistry playing together for Team Canada.

The drawback would be GM Ken Holland himself. Why would McDavid leave the Oilers, whom Holland help position to go nowhere in the postseason with lacking rosters over the years, particularly at goaltending, only to join another team managed by Holland with question marks at goalie as well?

They were closest to a Cup under Holland’s build. 1 goal Game 7. People act like Holland really screwed Edmonton up.

 

[santiclaws]

They were closest to a Cup under Holland’s build. 1 goal Game 7. People act like Holland really screwed Edmonton up.

And they hadn't been to the playoffs in years before he got there.

 

[Ranma]

Question marks at goalie? That's by far the least of our worries.

And yet it's not exactly a strength of the team as of yet.

They were closest to a Cup under Holland’s build. 1 goal Game 7. People act like Holland really screwed Edmonton up.

His decision to not secure stable goaltending led to arguably the key weakness to the downfall of the Oilers' Cup runs. Ken Holland during his Red Wings tenure is a different animal compared to his Oilers one and he certainly hasn't impressed during his time with the Kings.