Scott Wheeler's Prospect Ratings: Kings No. 2

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After a number of graduations and some trades (Kaliyev, Bjornfot, Durzi, Anderson, Clague et al.) the Kings have slid from last year's No. 1 ranking to No. 2.

A couple I found interesting:



2. Brandt Clarke, RHD, 18 (Barrie Colts)
Clarke has offensive-zone skill that is extremely hard to find among defencemen. He’s just a roving, confident, attacking defender with an uncanny ability to beat opposing players side-to-side, find his way into dangerous areas and then execute NHL-level plays to drive offense. He’s got some oddities, too. His knees knock. He rides on his inside edges. He’s not a natural athlete (though he has worked very hard to build out his frame and strength). But I don’t think any of those things are prohibitive to his development and he’s actually a pretty darn good defender (the biggest misnomer about him tries to say otherwise) against the rush and inside his own zone as is. Different isn’t necessarily a negative and I think that’s the case with Clarke. All of his little quirks make him the weird, fascinating, gifted player that he is. And I expect his intricacies will make him a special player at the next level, just like they have at every level below it. Clarke’s east-west vision was impressive as ever. He does a great job changing sides. He has this way of getting into the spots to make something happen. I liked what I saw defensively, too. I’ve often referred to him as a bit of a unicorn. He looks, at all times, completely unbothered by the stage or the pressure of opposing players. I think there are times when that can result in him trying to do too much. But there are also times it results into little spin or flip passes that are rare. There are things about his game that may scare off the odd coach (which I’d argue has less to do with him than hockey’s misperceptions of what he is) but he can completely take over a game and I admire his gumption. I also expect him to make significant progress as he continues to get stronger and sturdier.


4. Gabe Vilardi, C, 22 (Ontario Reign/Los Angeles Kings)

Vilardi’s a player I’ve always had time for and one I’m surprised the Kings haven’t had more for truthfully. He’s 6-foot-3 and 215 pounds, but he’s more than just the puck-protection centre you’d expect at a glance of his listed height and weight. He’s not a power-forward type, preferring instead to calculate his way around the ice. The things that make him effective aren’t the attention-grabbing kind. He’s not an explosive skater. He’s not a natural scoring threat. He’s not the dynamic, creative, puck-on-a-string type. He’s just a well-rounded offensive player who understands how to use spacing to make plays in a variety of ways. He’s got impressive skill, with a threatening hashmarks shot and good hands one-on-one with goalies or in traffic, but he’s also able to take the puck off the wall and make plays to the interior with his puck control skill out wide to his body. He’s the kind of player who doesn’t have a star quality but impacts a game and produces just the same as players his age who do. I enjoy watching him navigate out there and I think he belongs in the NHL (which is supported by his results and his makeup). I wonder if because he’s not what you maybe imagine out of a player who looks like him, whether that has created conflict and frustrations with the coaching staff (which, again, I would likely argue has more to do with archetypes and bias than his merits as a player).
 
Reading through the prospects evals was more enlightening how he views Spence, Faber and Grans. Faber and Grans in particular have the potential to wave in some ELC/RFA help if the forward crew does extend a window.

Clarke; lets hope our development crew sees the forest for the trees with this guy. I know the one thing with Wheelers comments that sticks out is how often it seems the kings are pushing an aspect of the prospects game that is not their strength for what they perceive their strength to be. I get that sometimes that does result in more complete players, and that strengths for a player to play at the NHL level may not be the ones that the prospect feel are their best (Hello every fighter ever) but it sure seems the kings are more reluctant than any other team to let a player fly their freak flag.
 
I picked up a lot from this article but when I have some time I want to see who he DIDN'T comment on and figure out why. One that jumps out at me is Parik. I wonder why he doesn't see him as a legit #1 goalie prospect.

But overall he thinks that damn near every Kings prospect has a legit chance to play in the NHL.
 
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I picked up a lot from this article but when I have some time I want to see who he DIDN'T comment on and figure out why. One that jumps out at me is Parik. I wonder why he doesn't see him as a legit #1 goalie prospect.

But overall he thinks that damn near every Kings prospect has a legit chance to play in the NHL.

Someone specifically asked him in the comments if any of the goalie prospects look to one day be a potential number one and he simply said "No"
 
Someone specifically asked him in the comments if any of the goalie prospects look to one day be a potential number one and he simply said "No"

Yeah but I wonder why. Maybe it's just because he's young (turns 21 next month), in the ECHL, and goalies are weird. He's certainly not a stud prospect. But we can all name at least one stud goalie who started in the ECHL and worked his way up the system to overtake an 11th overall pick.
 
Yeah but I wonder why. Maybe it's just because he's young (turns 21 next month), in the ECHL, and goalies are weird. He's certainly not a stud prospect. But we can all name at least one stud goalie who started in the ECHL and worked his way up the system to overtake an 11th overall pick.

Of all the positions, I'm least worried about goalie in the coming upcycle. It's the one position where it seems like there's always someone that could be available. I know that Quick greatly accelerated the Kings ascent, really stabilizing things after 06-08 and the days where Burke looked like a savior. This squad and the game they aim to play doesn't seem like one where a Vezina type season is the key to getting into the playoffs. Much more like they will use all 5 skaters to assist on getting close to the Jennings and call that discipline good enough. Remember even when Quick came along to steal games a lot of times they were events like the 5 goal comeback against Dallas (granted that was 07). The Stoll Greene trade and TeMU's arrival in the 08-09 season was the beginning of the defensive team game focus that is still pretty ingrained in this club even today (and the end of fun but losing hockey). Actually if there's any line that might be moving away from it, it would be the Danault line which seems counter intuitive considering he's known as a defensive specialist but truly they play like complete opportunists.

The long and short of that whole point is that while it would be great to have another competitor that Quick is in goal, I simply don't believe there's a chance in hell of finding it again so quickly. The HHOF doesn't put in many goalies so I don't harbor much hope Quick will get in there any time soon, if at all, but truly he's been a marvel that was outside any system to find and develop on a schedule. Cal Peterson may not be Quick's level but he might just be a top 10 NHL goalie when we need him to be. If he's not there's always some maybes out there, but there's never going to be a sure thing goalie available.....unless they're French and you're dumb enough not to fire the coach that leaves em in for 8 goals against.
 
Of all the positions, I'm least worried about goalie in the coming upcycle. It's the one position where it seems like there's always someone that could be available. I know that Quick greatly accelerated the Kings ascent, really stabilizing things after 06-08 and the days where Burke looked like a savior. This squad and the game they aim to play doesn't seem like one where a Vezina type season is the key to getting into the playoffs. Much more like they will use all 5 skaters to assist on getting close to the Jennings and call that discipline good enough. Remember even when Quick came along to steal games a lot of times they were events like the 5 goal comeback against Dallas (granted that was 07). The Stoll Greene trade and TeMU's arrival in the 08-09 season was the beginning of the defensive team game focus that is still pretty ingrained in this club even today (and the end of fun but losing hockey). Actually if there's any line that might be moving away from it, it would be the Danault line which seems counter intuitive considering he's known as a defensive specialist but truly they play like complete opportunists.

The long and short of that whole point is that while it would be great to have another competitor that Quick is in goal, I simply don't believe there's a chance in hell of finding it again so quickly. The HHOF doesn't put in many goalies so I don't harbor much hope Quick will get in there any time soon, if at all, but truly he's been a marvel that was outside any system to find and develop on a schedule. Cal Peterson may not be Quick's level but he might just be a top 10 NHL goalie when we need him to be. If he's not there's always some maybes out there, but there's never going to be a sure thing goalie available.....unless they're French and you're dumb enough not to fire the coach that leaves em in for 8 goals against.

I agree. I'm just curious why the Kings don't have a 25th player he could write about. :ike:
 
I watched Parik in the WHL multiple times and I saw the great and the bad. I've said it on this site before - when he is good, he's very good - he is extremely athletic, doesn't give up on a play and plays very, very big in net. When he is bad? He overplays the puck and the shooter taking himself out of position and he gets down on himself if he lets in a bad goal. I'm surprised he isn't at least mentioned but maybe in the two years since I've seen him his game devolved. Hopefully not because he reminded me very much of a goalie who won Cups in 2012 and 2014.

After reading the article there are two glaring needs - a clear top end scoring winger who could play on the first and/or second lines as well as 1PP and lack of a high-end LD. They've got tons of middle six forwards and three very, very good RD prospects (Clark, Faber, Kirsanov). If they can hit on two or three of the middle six forwards and somehow find a LD for the 2/3 spot they could be very, very good in 2023-2024 or 2024-2025 seasons.

Should be fun to see how it gets worked out by the LAK management team.
 
Faber feels like he’s as close to a sure thing as a prospect can get.
 
Great news for Faber but now the Kings RD is looking worse than the C.

Doughty, Durzi (for the offense), and Walker/Roy are already a group which goes 4 deep for 3 spots. Then you add in Clarke getting pro experience next year, Faber looking super polished at the Olympics and Grans rapidly working through his North American pro game growing pains at the AHL level and now we are 7 for 3 sometime next spring. And that's ignoring Spence who looks like a keeper in his rookie pro year. Blake is going to need to work the phones. That said, it sure beats when we had crap crap and more crap in the pipeline.
 
Faber feels like he?s as close to a sure thing as a prospect can get.

That's what attending Faber College with Flouder, Bluto, Stratton and Schoenstein will do for your career, move you right up the rankings.
 
Whatever the "it" is, he's got it. I'm excited to see where he goes.

Led the team in ice time again yesterday and finished +1 in the U.S. win over Canada.

Anyone watch it? I caught the first two periods. Saw lots of simple, responsible play and good decisions from Faber. Big stage for a 19 year old and lots of former NHL’ers on Canada so bodes well for his head game to play under pressure.
 
Led the team in ice time again yesterday and finished +1 in the U.S. win over Canada.

Anyone watch it? I caught the first two periods. Saw lots of simple, responsible play and good decisions from Faber. Big stage for a 19 year old and lots of former NHL’ers on Canada so bodes well for his head game to play under pressure.

Third period was ok but it was obvious Canada was targeting him with hard, physical play. He got bounced around pretty good on a very strong forecheck. After watching him a lot over the last few months he finally showed a small bit of panic in his game late in the third on a Canada PP. He got to the puck behind the net during a Canadian flurry and wheeled and reversed the puck and tried a hard out. Canada applied no pressure behind the net and backed off and got his attempted clear out. Faber knew he had more time too late. To his credit, though, he raced to the net front to support his linemate.

All that being said (and really it was the only bauble I've seen) he has played EXTREMELY well and is going to be a great 3/4 option for LAK. He is also on PK1 for Team USA and that is very impressive.
 

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