Welp - I guess we're all Colorado fans now

I'm fine with that. Before Kopitar era, I was a fan of the Avs. Why? I played NHL 2001 or 2002 (not sure) and I liked the fact that their best player had a Yugoslavian-sounding surname (Sakic) along with another scrub (Prpic) and I loved how Roy saved everything and how the play-by-play guy pronounced his surname. Deadmarsh surname also sounded super cool.

Also, Blake and Foote demolishing everybody? Yes please.

I had no knowledge about the nasty Blake story, and Kings at that point weren't on my radar. Though I have to admit Palffy always stood out.

Anyways...I have no problems rooting for them. And It's not like they've won, like, 4 Cups in a row. They were in quite a bit of a rut after their Cup win. Almost Kings-like rut.
 
I can't wait for the Avs to lose and then MacKinnon to imply that the better team lost.

"Be the judge of who was the better team today."

I used to be a fan but now I can't stand that guy. Seems like many on the Avs, and their fans, share that poor sport mentality.
100%. What a crybaby.

Going by his logic, the Kings were better than the Avs in their series.
 
I'm fine with that. Before Kopitar era, I was a fan of the Avs. Why? I played NHL 2001 or 2002 (not sure) and I liked the fact that their best player had a Yugoslavian-sounding surname (Sakic) along with another scrub (Prpic) and I loved how Roy saved everything and how the play-by-play guy pronounced his surname. Deadmarsh surname also sounded super cool.

Also, Blake and Foote demolishing everybody? Yes please.

I had no knowledge about the nasty Blake story, and Kings at that point weren't on my radar. Though I have to admit Palffy always stood out.

Anyways...I have no problems rooting for them. And It's not like they've won, like, 4 Cups in a row. They were in quite a bit of a rut after their Cup win. Almost Kings-like rut.
Those late 90s Avs Red Wings playoff battles were incredible.
 
I believe this series will go 7. Vegas coasts through the regular season and then when they need to win, they do. They have another gear, that most teams do not have.
 
Posted in another thread (Pacific Division thread) that VGK will present a much stiffer challenge to the Avs than the Kings or Wild did. My prediction is the Avalanche will prevail, but it will not be a gimme. Avs in 6.
I don't have much animus against either team personally. Really, of all the teams left (only 5 now), I really want Buffalo to win. If not them, then anyone is fine except for maybe the Canadiens (yes, 1993).
 
I believe this series will go 7. Vegas coasts through the regular season and then when they need to win, they do. They have another gear, that most teams do not have.
They had to fire the coach to get that gear

They are not that good. Their goaltending sucked. Their Cup winning star was awful. Hart has saved them. Also they made a huge trade to improve their D and that was not successful.

Vegas is good but they're not amazing. Colorado is amazing.
 
Yep, it's time to pull for the Avs in the WC side of the playoffs, despite having some unlikable players, fans, and PbP crew. And if Buffalo falls to Montreal, then it's Carolina all the way in the EC side.
 
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Vegas, 5 conference finals in 9 years
Kings, 3 conference finals in franchise history.

They haven't known misery in their fandom.

Screw Vegass and their fans. Not even the Quacks reached that level of success in their early years and it took them about 13 seasons of their existence to win them their first Cup. I mean, we Kings fans sure disdain Anaheim (and we still do even in their down years, thank Disney for that) but they get nowhere near the level of envy and disdain that Vegass has nowadays.

I think Bettman seems to favor Vegas as if they really were his chosen team and get all the cool toys just to rub it in every other team fans' faces.


On an unrelated but similar note, the Diamondbacks managed to win their first WS title in about only four seasons of their existence, though at least they were more likeable at the time.
 
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Vegas, 5 conference finals in 9 years
Kings, 3 conference finals in franchise history.

They haven't known misery in their fandom.
Actually, 4 conference finals for the Kings (1993, 2012, 2013, and 2014), but your point still stands. Love VGK or hate them, they have run their franchise with ruthless efficiency. The Kings in their almost-60 year history? Well, not so much (except for the DL years, of course).
 
Actually, 4 conference finals for the Kings (1993, 2012, 2013, and 2014), but your point still stands. Love VGK or hate them, they have run their franchise with ruthless efficiency. The Kings in their almost-60 year history? Well, not so much (except for the DL years, of course).
I feel shame. I wasn't sure so I used AI.
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Anyhow Vegas fans need to suffer to really appreciate how good they have it.
 
Actually, 4 conference finals for the Kings (1993, 2012, 2013, and 2014), but your point still stands. Love VGK or hate them, they have run their franchise with ruthless efficiency. The Kings in their almost-60 year history? Well, not so much (except for the DL years, of course).
When Vegas came into the NHL, due to an extraordinarily high entry fee, the NHL significantly changed the way the expansion draft would occur. Vegas was very smart, some teams panicked a bit over the thought of losing key players they could not protect, and Vegas used the rules and brains to build a contender right out of the gate. (Seattle had similar rules, but GM’s learned not to panic over the loss of one player.).
I respect what Vegas ownership/management created, but I did not like the immediate success. I kind of thought it was helpful for Vegas fans to understand and experience the pain and suffering that NHL fans know so well. It seemed too easy.

I think enough time has passed that this team is no longer the expansion team. They have won but also failed. So My initial animosity is in the past.

So, I don’t mind Vegas. I honestly don’t dislike any of the remaining teams.
I do kind of like the Avs. The Kings-Avs playoff series of past years were fun.
I get the dislike for MacKinnon. He doesn’t handle losing well. But he’s a helluva a fun player to watch.
 
When Vegas came into the NHL, due to an extraordinarily high entry fee, the NHL significantly changed the way the expansion draft would occur. Vegas was very smart, some teams panicked a bit over the thought of losing key players they could not protect, and Vegas used the rules and brains to build a contender right out of the gate. (Seattle had similar rules, but GM’s learned not to panic over the loss of one player.).
I respect what Vegas ownership/management created, but I did not like the immediate success. I kind of thought it was helpful for Vegas fans to understand and experience the pain and suffering that NHL fans know so well. It seemed too easy.

I think enough time has passed that this team is no longer the expansion team. They have won but also failed. So My initial animosity is in the past.

So, I don’t mind Vegas. I honestly don’t dislike any of the remaining teams.
I do kind of like the Avs. The Kings-Avs playoff series of past years were fun.
I get the dislike for MacKinnon. He doesn’t handle losing well. But he’s a helluva a fun player to watch.
Very well said.
 
I feel shame. I wasn't sure so I used AI.
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Anyhow Vegas fans need to suffer to really appreciate how good they have it.

After what, 3 years of AI being available to use and a literal s*** ton of money thrown into this tech it f***s ups the simplest of questions.

This can't end well lol. Either we'll be forced to use it (and pay for the service) or it will all be the biggest waste of money and resources in the history of the planet.
 
After what, 3 years of AI being available to use and a literal s*** ton of money thrown into this tech it f***s ups the simplest of questions.

This can't end well lol. Either we'll be forced to use it (and pay for the service) or it will all be the biggest waste of money and resources in the history of the planet.
The problem is the AI query is citing Wikipedia as a source, so ultimately it is human error (we all know Wikipedia has zero guardrails and is not a reliable source). One can put source parameters into their query.

AI has already proven itself to be valuable - but I'm guessing not everyone is intentionally using it or using it enough to see the value.

It does has it share of troubles, however, and should always be double checked (and reliable info sources locked down).
 
When Vegas came into the NHL, due to an extraordinarily high entry fee, the NHL significantly changed the way the expansion draft would occur. Vegas was very smart, some teams panicked a bit over the thought of losing key players they could not protect, and Vegas used the rules and brains to build a contender right out of the gate. (Seattle had similar rules, but GM’s learned not to panic over the loss of one player.).
I respect what Vegas ownership/management created, but I did not like the immediate success. I kind of thought it was helpful for Vegas fans to understand and experience the pain and suffering that NHL fans know so well. It seemed too easy.

I think enough time has passed that this team is no longer the expansion team. They have won but also failed. So My initial animosity is in the past.

So, I don’t mind Vegas. I honestly don’t dislike any of the remaining teams.
I do kind of like the Avs. The Kings-Avs playoff series of past years were fun.
I get the dislike for MacKinnon. He doesn’t handle losing well. But he’s a helluva a fun player to watch.

Their GM also circumvented the cap more than once before the NHL changed the rules. Sure, not strictly illegal, but a very unsportsmanlike thing to do.

But don't worry, as their current core wilts away and with the pitiful UFA market in the coming seasons, and their absolute dismal cupboard of draft picks, their rebuild will liekly be either that much more painful for them (imagine fans used to winning so much suddenly having to buy tickets to watch a rebuilding team...yeah, no) or they will be in perpetual mediocrity akin to the Kings pre-DL.

The problem is the AI query is citing Wikipedia as a source, so ultimately it is human error (we all know Wikipedia has zero guardrails and is not a reliable source). One can put source parameters into their query.

AI has already proven itself to be valuable - but I'm guessing not everyone is intentionally using it or using it enough to see the value.

It does has it share of troubles, however, and should always be double checked (and reliable info sources locked down).

97% of people I know don't know how to use google search properly. It seems unlikely general population will learn to use the AI properly. The misinformation age will truly blossom and when we thought social media generation can't get any dumber...well...here we go.

I can definitely see many uses in professional spectrum, but you have to be *very* careful there and it's possible it won't be able to be as over-encompassing as some people predict (I'm one of those doomers, too). Unless company leaders decide quick and cheap and likely wrong is better than slower, more expensive and likely correct is good enough, in which case...there could be quite a lot of trouble.
 

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