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jerseydevil said:
Oh man...so disagree. The tie straightening was seriously flamboyant, but man that was probably the most epic thing I have ever seen on television. It was all sleight of hand and if you look too closely your points are valid...but they just had so much on the line and such a ticking clock going thru the whole season that it really played better than you make it sound, i.m.o. Just the subtle little touches like Walt's 'Money Pit' moment when he realizes all the cash is gone...all the flourishes just added up to that one big kaboom. And the old man was fleshed out to the point that you really did get he would blow himself up to get vengeance. The downhill physics of the whole season really culminated with that. This Sundays episode seemed more insincere, because there was no 'ticking clock' in the background. Things are almost too good and they had to manufacture some event to wratchet things up. And it felt forced.
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I agree with your disagreement. Last season's nursing home ending was one of the best season-ending TV shows - ever. In the history of television.

When Gus walked out of the room and straightened his tie, my wife even yelled at the TV, "NO!" (Although from where he was standing near the wheelchair, chances are he wouldn't have still had his legs, but I was willing to accept what happened just for the pure shock value).

Last night we watched the train caper and generally enjoyed it. A bit too many things HAD to go just right for it all to happen though (especially the "EXACT" required distance from the road to the train track bridge). And Walt would have never have kept filling the tank, jeopardizing the entire effort, just to get to 1000 gallons (or whatever it was). Like 900 gallons wasn't enough? There's nothing magical about 1000 gallons.

And the kid at the end? ... seemed a bit tacked on. Like something just HAD to go wrong. A bit like when LOST just started killing off characters just because they thought they needed to.
 
Butch 19 said:
I agree with your disagreement. Last season's nursing home ending was one of the best season-ending TV shows - ever. In the history of television.

When Gus walked out of the room and straightened his tie, my wife even yelled at the TV, "NO!" (Although from where he was standing near the wheelchair, chances are he wouldn't have still had his legs, but I was willing to accept what happened just for the pure shock value).

Last night we watched the train caper and generally enjoyed it. A bit too many things HAD to go just right for it all to happen though (especially the "EXACT" required distance from the road to the train track bridge). And Walt would have never have kept filling the tank, jeopardizing the entire effort, just to get to 1000 gallons (or whatever it was). Like 900 gallons wasn't enough? There's nothing magical about 1000 gallons.

And the kid at the end? ... seemed a bit tacked on. Like something just HAD to go wrong. A bit like when LOST just started killing off characters just because they thought they needed to.
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I could be wrong but wasn't he waiting for the water he was pumping into the tank to match the total mass of the methylamine they had stolen? That's why they had to be exact, since supposedly the cargo would be weighed and they would notice something. If done correctly they would only notice the dilution and blame the Chinese, not call in the feds.

As for the kid, I felt it packed a big punch. Much bigger than what it would have had it just been some guy. Sure it's a bit cheap to make it a child but the way it tied in with Jesse and Walt's previous incident with a child I thought made it work.
 
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And...having read back a few pages, this show hinges on what you find plausible and what you can look past. I guess we all have our limits. Kinda owe Butch19 an apology for saying this might not be the show for him a few back and then railing about particulars. So, sorry man. Anyway, I have come to grips with, what I thought, was a misstep of an episode and I am hoping they get back to setting up strong for the back 8.
 
Wow, best episode of the season by far. Exciting all the way through. The barrel scene in the beginning was disturbing and the dinner table scene made me laugh out loud. I thought it was cool how they linked his previous business mistakes to his current situation, I hadn't thought of that but it fits nicely. And watching Jesse, almost trembling, as he stood up to Walt and wanted out was beautiful, even though he was back on his side defending him in the end (in what will undoubtedly be a situation where Walt will screw them over).
 
Yes not we're cooking! Great episode, and at the end I was pissed it was over, I wanted more!
 
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Loved the dinner scene. Uncharacteristically sloppy job by Mike in restraining Walt.
 
SirJW said:
Yes not we're cooking! Great episode, and at the end I was pissed it was over, I wanted more!
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bob8880 said:
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Loved the dinner scene. Uncharacteristically sloppy job by Mike in restraining Walt.
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Man, I was soooo engrossed in this one...but then I felt them about to go to black/credits and I literally said out loud 'Oh no you ****ing don't'. But they didn't listen to me. Yeah, Mike seriously underestimated Walt(which struck me as a callback to the dea conversation '...even a professional makes a mistake'). Would have been funny to see Walt electrocute himself. That dinner scene was horrifying. Poor Jessie, trying so hard. Thought the admission by Walt was pretty telling. He finally has conceded that he has lost everything. And Skyler almost told Marie. I thought her finding out that Walt spilled about the affair might have tipped her over. If I were Walt I wouldn't go leaving piles of cash around...she's a flight risk. B.t.w. the gelinator method of disposal is pretty 'ewwwwwwwwww'. Imagine being turned into an indistinguishable goo. There's your record of time on this planet. Nice.
 
well Walt saying he's got nothing left is both true and also a convenient way to manipulate Jesse and his compassion further.
 
Great episode. On a side note, I loved the promo for "Groundhog Day" being run three times in a row. Well played, AMC, well played.
 
Meet the new character who'll bring 'humanity' to Walking Dead S3 | Blastr

The Walking Dead is bringing another character into the zombie fold. But unlike Michonne and the Governor, we didn't see him coming—because the new guy in town isn't from the comic.

According to EW, a new and original character is joining The Walking Dead. His name is Milton, and he'll be played by actor Dallas Roberts (The Grey, AMC's Rubicon). Milton is a Woodbury resident and one of the Governor's right-hand men.

"Milton is the details guy," says Robert Kirkman. "He's the guy that works with the Governor, who is monitoring all situations and is trying to help the Governor make sense of this world that they're living in. He's not exactly a scientist, but he's a smart guy that is trying to find out how zombies behave. Watching him do his little experiments is going to be a lot of fun."

Milton's a thinker, not a fighter, and he serves an important purpose. Showrunner Glen Mazzara thought it would be unbelievable for every character to be good at killing zombies.

"We wanted to show how other people survive, and Dallas has come in and helped us establish that character. He just adds a lot of heart and humanity to Woodbury, which further complicates what that is.That is a real town with real people and real survivors. It's not necessarily a group of bad guys."

But aren't the locals slightly unstable? Perhaps the TV version of Woodbury is a little different from the comic.
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jerseydevil said:
lunchbox said:
well Walt saying he's got nothing left is both true and also a convenient way to manipulate Jesse and his compassion further.
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I dunno...it was the first time I thought Walt was actually dealin Jesse from the top of the deck.
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the way I saw it was that yes, it's true that cooking is all he's got now. but he is also using that truth to play on jesse's sympathy to get him to either keep cooking with him or let him keep his share of the methylamine. Jesse is in this tug of war between Walt and mike where Walt keeps trying to use him to outvote mike and get his way. Walt is straight up evil ass**** now so I have a hard time believing anything he says or does is without ulterior motive.
 
lunchbox said:
the way I saw it was that yes, it's true that cooking is all he's got now. but he is also using that truth to play on jesse's sympathy to get him to either keep cooking with him or let him keep his share of the methylamine. Jesse is in this tug of war between Walt and mike where Walt keeps trying to use him to outvote mike and get his way. Walt is straight up evil ass**** now so I have a hard time believing anything he says or does is without ulterior motive.
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True. With the loss of his family Walt is gone. You could see how easy it was becoming for him to assume the Heisenberg persona and now with all his victories that life is more appealing than Walter White family man. So he's just ditched it. It's probably the single most alienating thing about this season. I didn't see any responsibility in the way he said it. It was more like 'can you believe her?' It's tough too because Skyler is so terribly unsympathetic. You could see the way her pride flashed when Marie told her she knew about the affair. They are both terrible people and she's right to want the kids away, for the wrong reasons. Walt is unhinged at this point, simply trying to salvage some victory out of all the sacrifice and work...it's sad and pathetic. Mike's comment 'I've never seen someone work so hard to NOT make 5 million dollars' said with all the weight of the world on his shoulders...well, that was good stuff. It's just not going to end well, and I have to think that the heavy artillery Walt was buying at the beginning of this season is to deal with the new character who wants to buyout the blue. Should be something we are all gonna talk about for a while...

We NEED more Saul.
 
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