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Carl looks ****in' creepy.

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So the Walking Dead - great tension level tonight. Good episode - Rick has to know the Gov is lying. I liked that the LT's for each crew got to know each other. The story has gone well the last few weeks but I am finding the show is so devoid of hope - not surprising in a new world the show describes - that I am not sure I can continue to watch.

Sorry to get all serious here but man the story is so hopeless to me.
 
roenick said:
So the Walking Dead - great tension level tonight. Good episode - Rick has to know the Gov is lying. I liked that the LT's for each crew got to know each other. The story has gone well the last few weeks but I am finding the show is so devoid of hope - not surprising in a new world the show describes - that I am not sure I can continue to watch.

Sorry to get all serious here but man the story is so hopeless to me.
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I think it's all in the way you process it. To me, I saw a lot of hope in the interactions between the members of the camps. Normal people, who in better times, would be comrades. But their leaders comparing dick sizes lead them from the path(sound familiar????). The Governor will sacrifice every living member of Woodbury to get his revenge, and Rick is hardly better. He knows the Governor is not to be trusted, yet he is contemplating selling out Michonne. Meanwhile...Glen & Maggie found a little love among the ruins...so there is your hope in a hopeless world. Yeah, it's a grim worldview. But that's life as they know it when the life expectancy is 'wow, I'm still alive!!!!'
 
I think there is more hope to be found in Glen and Maggie than there is with Rick. That picture up there with the original group and half of them crossed out is impressive, but you also get the sense that the creators are going to kill people just to keep it up and someone has to fall in the fight with the governor - Herschel? His daughter? The state of Rick's pal from the very first episode in last week's episode may have been the most hopeless thing. Really, these people need to secure a good base (check) and then start killing EVERY zombie (or wait for them to keep wandering up to the prison). Kill enough zombies, make a larger functional civilized base. Bring in more humans, train them, buddy up to put down anyone who dies and turns. Kill more zombies. Repeat.

I agree that the huge degree of tension between Rick and the governor and the interaction between Daryl and the other guy were the highlights. You'd think Merle would at least be able to identify the option of not being an asshat for once.
 
jerseydevil said:
Review: The Walking Dead - Arrow on the Doorpost: A drink before the war

as always...Seppinwall, with some terrific insight.
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I thought Seppinwall went all Matthew Berry a few weeks back and said he was done with this show??

I thought the episode was....ok......at best. Yes, some of the dialog was nice, but dear lord, when Rick declared at the end of the episode "we're going to war" - no ****, really, Rick?? Didn't you say that, like, 4 weeks ago? As for Andrea, dear ****ing lord baby christ and all that's holy....If you asked her "How are you doing today, Andrea?", you'd get 5 anguished facial expressions, 3 different answers, and then she'd turn and walk away all flustered at your question.

Now I've read the comics so far up to #85 and counting, and I DO still love the show, but dear lord, there's more padding than a wonder bra in this damn show. That's one of the reasons I'd heard that Mazzara got canned is the lack of material for the scripts for season 3. And for a quality comparison on how to make something blatantly obvious that's going to happen over the course of a full season of television, just look at season 4 of Breaking Bad. Everyone knew that Walt and Gus were on a collision course, and it took all season to get there. But the amazing world that Vince Gilligan created for Breaking Bad allowed for so much to go on during the slow burn to the finale of season 4, that it never felt drawn out or unnaturally stretched for a plot. Of course, it really isn't fair to compare the writing and execution of the story of The Walking Deal to Breaking Bad, but that's just at least a smidgen of a speck of an example of what it appears that Mazzara tried to do in Season 3 viz a vie Rick and The Governor.

Now, if the final episodes of the season deliver the goods, some of this slow-as-molasses plot development and character flaws might be, well, not forgiven, but at least accepted in the end.
 
Well yeah...it's all gonna be build up to the eventual showdown at this point, and yeah...it is inexcusable. The Zombie Delivery attack was the height of the season, and since then it's been pretty flaccid. They just don't seem to know how to maintain pacing very well on this show. The 2 episodes leading to the break...same thing. Great drama and momentum...then pfffffft. They just keep letting up on the gas pedal and that makes you look at the seams and faults of the show. Hell, the farm was the same last year. It's like watching a basketball game...come back the last 2 minutes , the rest of it is inconsequential.
 
adgy-san said:
I just have a bad feeling that the season finale is not going to actually resolve this.
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Keep reading that it will have a good deal of closure and set season 4 up. I wonder if they pull the trigger on killing the Governor, or maybe have him in exile...lingering. The one thing they have always done well is finish, so that anticipation overwhelms disappointment. So, I'm not too worried.
 
Just a note to the folks at Walking Dead...you want to see how to keep a story moving forward despite a clear endgame...watch Justified. **** me freddie they do know how to tell a goddamn story.
 
jerseydevil said:
Just a note to the folks at Walking Dead...you want to see how to keep a story moving forward despite a clear endgame...watch Justified. **** me freddie they do know how to tell a goddamn story.
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Agree. Thought last nights epi was really well done. Heck Raylon isn't even the most interesting character on the show any more.
 
Great TWD tonight. High tension. Poor Andrea but that is what happens when you sleep with the enemy ... Does anyone know how many episodes are left? Should be a big ride to the end of the year.
 
Next weeks is listed as pentultimate(second to last) in entertainment weekly...

I hate to hammer this point, but after watching Justified last week, there is no reason why this show is limping along towards the finale. More padding...Andrea spends the whole episode trekking to the prison, annnnnddddd ohsoclose. Minor developments with Tyrese and the gang...the only real revelation was Milton's apparent decision to declare a side. And I am sorry, but after going so far out of their way to recreate the Governor he is now almost full on Mr Burns handwringing evil. Morrisey and the writers seem to have completely lost their handle on trying to present him as an actual character and not a one dimensional stereotype. Nothing truly bad will happen to Andrea, there will be a death or two(Herschell? Carole? Andrea? Definitely Milton) and they will find some way to have a solid 20 minutes at the end of the last episode causing us all to hope that the change of showrunner will reinvent the series for 10 months just to get sold a bill of goods again. True Blood all over again.
 
jerseydevil said:
Next weeks is listed as pentultimate(second to last) in entertainment weekly...

I hate to hammer this point, but after watching Justified last week, there is no reason why this show is limping along towards the finale. More padding...Andrea spends the whole episode trekking to the prison, annnnnddddd ohsoclose. Minor developments with Tyrese and the gang...the only real revelation was Milton's apparent decision to declare a side. And I am sorry, but after going so far out of their way to recreate the Governor he is now almost full on Mr Burns handwringing evil. Morrisey and the writers seem to have completely lost their handle on trying to present him as an actual character and not a one dimensional stereotype. Nothing truly bad will happen to Andrea, there will be a death or two(Herschell? Carole? Andrea? Definitely Milton) and they will find some way to have a solid 20 minutes at the end of the last episode causing us all to hope that the change of showrunner will reinvent the series for 10 months just to get sold a bill of goods again. True Blood all over again.
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Agree with you. Justified is just so willing to push itself and not care whether it is there next year or not. AMC is too far in control and too worried to lose their big hit. They will allow the limping to continue. After seeing the chains and all I thought, maybe, just maybe we will see another reference to the book but then the end changed all that. Too bad.
 
LOW WINTER SUN Trailer. LOW WINTER SUN Stars Mark Strong | Collider

AMC has released the first trailer for the network’s newest drama series, Low Winter Sun. Based on the 2006 British miniseries of the same name, the show is described as “a contemporary story of murder, deception, revenge, and corruption” and centers on the fallout from the murder of a cop by a fellow Detroit detective. Mark Strong looks to give a solid performance in the lead, and fans of AMC’s other series will recognize a few familiar faces like Lennie James (The Walking Dead’s Morgan) and David Costabile (Breaking Bad’s Gale). The tone feels like a cross between The Wire and Breaking Bad, and I’m looking forward to checking out the pilot
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High hopes for this one. Great cast.
 
No wonder Shawn Ryan has been bashing AMC lately, Id be pissed too if someone stole my show and remade it. Looks like an AMC version of The Shield.
 
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