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roenick said:
Wow is all I can say.

"Four days inside and four days out?" Oh this isn't going to work ...

"Joel thinks he is responsible for the success of shows on AMC, and not the creators," This is why I have no respect for Hollywood ...

This just sucks.
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Yeah, there was a lot of info in those links that you think would make the shareholders rise up and go all French Revolution on those in charge...but they won't. Simply because AMC is making money. They do not realize that quality=longevity=long term profit. So AMC cleans up on Walking Dead while riding the show into the ground creatively. HBO should be watching this story closely because there was a lot of talk from the Game of Thrones/Boardwalk Empire folks about diminished budgets. I have to point again to Fx. Always trying new things and they are willing to give a second chance to a show in order to let it grow an audience. Archer's ratings first season were not-so-good, yet fan word of mouth and critical raves bought it a second season. Now Fx cannot have enough Archer. Even shows they could not save(Terriers/Light's out...r.i.p.) the guy in charge did state of the union type apologies to the fans which came off very sincere. Say what you want, but thank God LOST snuck thru the cracks. TV does not reward creative ideas. There are at least 2 fairytale shows coming on...and I refuse to watch them until they get a second season. Which they won't. TV sucks...a simple rule of thumb to live by.

Jaysus I am in a ranting mood today.
 
Not only would the show get a lower budget, but AMC also decided that "Walking Dead" would no longer reap the benefit of a 30 percent tax credit per episode that came with filming in Georgia. Now the network was going to hold on to that money.
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**** you, AMC!

Despite the show's success, AMC stuck to its original position on the second-season budget. When those involved with the show protested that the network was taking chances with its biggest hit, AMC's head of original programming, Joel Stillerman, is said to have declared, "Ratings have no bearing on this conversation."
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**** you, Joel Stillerman!

Darabont was editing the episode in an effort to fix it but by then, an insider believes, AMC was looking for a pretext. "Joel thinks he is responsible for the success of shows on AMC, and not the creators," this person says. This person blames Stillerman for the decision to fire Darabont. (Stillerman also has a strained relationship with Mad Men's Weiner, who declines to speak to him.)
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It's hearsay, but if you're also pissing off Mad Men... **** you.
 
adgy-san said:
**** you, AMC!



**** you, Joel Stillerman!



It's hearsay, but if you're also pissing off Mad Men... **** you.
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You left out the facts that they waited until the day after SDCC to fire him, and, they are alledgedly making it all too clear to the people involved that if you talk...you are gone.
 
jerseydevil said:
You left out the facts that they waited until the day after SDCC to fire him, and, they are alledgedly making it all too clear to the people involved that if you talk...you are gone.
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Well, you mentioned those previously, so I wasn't going to repeat it.

But, yeah, I'm half tempted to not watch Season 2 based on this bull****.
 
adgy-san said:
Well, you mentioned those previously, so I wasn't going to repeat it.

But, yeah, I'm half tempted to not watch Season 2 based on this bull****.
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You can start by NOT buying the double dip(already) of season one. I mean, c'mon...the only change is that they have a b&w version of the show on it...hurm I wonder where that gem of an idea came from(hint:see The Mist)
 
jerseydevil said:
You can start by NOT buying the double dip(already) of season one. I mean, c'mon...the only change is that they have a b&w version of the show on it...hurm I wonder where that gem of an idea came from(hint:see The Mist)
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What if I hadn't bought the original release yet?

I think we still have them all on the DVR, though. Maybe I'll wait and buy it used.
 
It should have been obvious the way AMC repeated the original 6 incessantly and within a couple months announced a retread of the boxset that they were simply trying to recoup their investment instead of protecting the 'specialness' of their show. Do Not Buy new. I wish I hadn't already bought the first set.
 
Oh No They Didn't! - Kurt Sutter: 'Mad Men' Greed Hurting 'Breaking Bad' and 'Walking Dead'

Sons Of Anarchy creator Kurt Sutter stirred up Twitter Thursday morning and it didn’t have anything to do with the Emmy Awards. Sutter makes the compelling case that AMC spent so much money making Matt Weiner happy and renewing Mad Men that it is looking to slash costs everywhere else. Sutter thinks it’s that which has led ultimately, to Frank Darabont being fired from The Walking Dead and all the chatter about Sony’s negotiations with AMC for Breaking Bad not going well (reports of AMC looking to slash costs and episode counts).
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adgy-san said:
Oh No They Didn't! - Kurt Sutter: 'Mad Men' Greed Hurting 'Breaking Bad' and 'Walking Dead'
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Actually thats a fair point. Sutter may have some inside knowledge too because he was a big part of the Shield and that's where Mazzara(new WD showrunner) hails from. As far as Breaking Bad I have to imagine AMC is probably pissy because Gilligan wants to end the show either next season or maybe the one after. So AMC may figure they don't have much to lose there.. I like Sutter and his honesty...that's another feather in Fx's cap, they have never been on the wrong side(to my knowledge) of one of his rants.
 
This Should Happen: AMC is in serious need of a regime change
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'Awesome editorial bordering on 'well DUH!!!!'

The network takes risks, but doesn?t seem to understand how to keep pace with their successes. If it was just one disagreement, I could explain away the brass just not getting along with Darabont, who notoriously sticks to his guns and isn?t afraid at pissing people off to protect his storytelling. But considering AMC has three mammoth shows and there?s creative unrest between all three showrunners and the execs it?s pretty clear there?s a problem with the management.

You guys understand why this is bad news for us, the fans. You don?t need me to draw it out? suits interfering with the creative process isn?t a new thing in Hollywood. What AMC?s board and advertisers should be made aware of is how these actions negatively impact them directly. Fans want quality storytelling, risky storytelling? board members, shareholders and advertisers just want to look at the bottom line, see profits.

For them, I have this to say: Mad Men, Breaking Bad and The Walking Dead weren?t successes because of Stillman and his group, they were successes despite them. Do you really think the next Vince Gilligan or Frank Darabont or Matthew Weiner will be attracted to AMC knowing how they treat their talent? Do you think the next brilliant showrunner will choose AMC over, say, HBO with the next great, profitable series knowing that even if they bring in the best ratings in the network?s history their budgets will be slashed in their next season and they could be booted off the series they developed for years?

Guys, it?s not that hard to figure out. If you don?t invest in the future of your network you?re not going to have one. You need to make AMC the home of cutting edge TV, a haven for the men and women who really do the work, tell the stories audiences want to tune in to every week. If you don?t, then you?re going to lose the next wave of brilliant showrunners.
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BD Horror News - AMC In More Hot Water Regarding 'Walking Dead' Firing; Anthrax's Scott Ian a Zombie?!

Not only has Anthrax guitarist Scott Ian put on display an image of him as a zombie (pictured inside) from the set of AMC's now filming second season of "The Walking Dead," more juicy madness is pouring salt on the wounds that has now become a public fist fight.
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BREAKING BAD Renewed for a 16-Episode Final Season

not all good news though

AMC may have some of the best dramatic series on TV right now, but they’ve had a hell of a time working out the details. There was the negotiations drama with Mad Men, the behind-the-scenes creative shuffling on The Walking Dead, and recently trying to get more Breaking Bad to stay on AMC while controlling costs. Deadline reports that Sony (the company behind the show) and AMC have come to an agreement over the $3 million price tag for the series’ budget. The new agreement will bring a 16-episode final season to the series, although the final season may be split into two halves. While AMC is a cable network and doesn’t have the cash of network TV or the premium channels, I think this is money well spent. I’m slightly biased because I think Breaking Bad is the best show on TV right now.

But the drama isn’t over yet. Vince Gilligan doesn’t have a contract beyond this season so he’ll be renegotiating his contract with Sony. The cast can renegotiate their contracts as well.
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Man, tonights episode was brilliant!!!!!
 
AMC Exec's Fake Twitter Account: 'We've Slashed The Killing's Chewing-Gum Budget' | TheWrap TV

"It's not my fault that Darabont didn't want to incorporate already-shot-footage from The Mist into The Walking Dead," @joelstillerman tweeted Sunday.

Earlier, he added, "Hey guys! Wondering if anyone knows of surplus stores in the CA area where I could get a meth lab props for under $400. #Thanks #HitMeBack."

>> Big Announcement! There will be a 2nd season of Rubicon! Just kidding. Do you know how much that ****ing train scene cost to shoot? #2much

>> I know this Bryan Cranston guy is good...but is he $200,000-I-Could-Save-By-Recasting-Walter-White-With-Jim-Norton good? Hm...time will tell
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Heh!
 
What?? Is AMC Creating A WALKING DEAD Talk Show??
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AMC has shot a talk-show pilot designed to do for AMC scripted programming what Bravo’s “Watch What Happens: Live” does for Bravo's reality programming.

The idea, I gather, is to have the “Walking Dead”-centric chatfest air after each new episode of “Walking Dead” this fall. If it works for “Dead,” AMC could start doing similar weekly aftershows for “Mad Men,” “Breaking Bad,” “The Killing” and so on.

Bravo programming exec Andy Cohen hosts “WWH” -- so will the guy who just fired Frank Darabont host the AMC version?

Probably not. Former “Singled Out” host and current “Nerdist” blogger Chris Hardwick, who also hosts G4’s “Web Soup,” was tapped to host the AMC talk pilot.

Will the stars and writers of “Walking Dead” finally be allowed to explain why Glen Mazzara (creator and original showrunner of Starz’ widely and deservedly reviled TV version of “Crash”) is now “Walking Dead” showrunner instead of “Shawshank Redmption” writer-director Darabont?
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