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My concern is that in tearing it all away and burning it to the ground the end is going to leave a bad taste, regardless of how appropriate and/or well done. Walt has never been as much of a soulless monster as he appears to be now. Saving Jesse and killing Jack and the Aryan bunch would go a long way. Don't feel sorry for Hank. He had a good death. He will be missed. The shot of baby Holly playing peek-a-boo while crying in the fire engine was heartbreaking.
 
jerseydevil said:
My concern is that in tearing it all away and burning it to the ground the end is going to leave a bad taste, regardless of how appropriate and/or well done. Walt has never been as much of a soulless monster as he appears to be now. Saving Jesse and killing Jack and the Aryan bunch would go a long way. Don't feel sorry for Hank. He had a good death. He will be missed. The shot of baby Holly playing peek-a-boo while crying in the fire engine was heartbreaking.
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He only appears to be a soulless monster when/if you do something that could hurt his family in any way. Walt is and always has been a family man. His sole focus from episode 1 through last night has been about taking care of his family at all cost.

It didn't matter that Hank was going to send him to jail forever. Hank was family, so he was willing to throw away every last dollar he made to save him. It didn't matter that Skylar tried to kill him with a kitchen knife. Walt still made that very last phone call, which he knew was being monitored by the cops, to absolve her of all wrong doing.

Walt is not Heisenberg.
 
Kubrick said:
He only appears to be a soulless monster when/if you do something that could hurt his family in any way. Walt is and always has been a family man. His sole focus from episode 1 through last night has been about taking care of his family at all cost.

It didn't matter that Hank was going to send him to jail forever. Hank was family, so he was willing to throw away every last dollar he made to save him. It didn't matter that Skylar tried to kill him with a kitchen knife. Walt still made that very last phone call, which he knew was being monitored by the cops, to absolve her of all wrong doing.

Walt is not Heisenberg.
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Yet, not only did he Roman Gladiator thumbs down Jesse, he also stuck the knife in and twisted. How is Jesse's betrayal any worse than Hank trying to put him away and take all that he worked for. There is an overall darkness where there wasn't always before. I think you are giving 'Walt' a lot more credit than he deserves. The forceful tones and actions he exhibited when he was trying to strongarm his family to go along was not sunshine and happiness. That was abuse, plain and simple. Him calling to cover his tracks and returning Holly aside I think there is a LOT of Heisenberg in old Flynn Sr. Poor Marie. I wonder if she will wear purple to the funeral? Buried in an unmarked hole in the desert...not cool.

And y'all remember Jack from Kill Bill 1? His name was Buck and he liked to something something...
 
Kubrick said:
He only appears to be a soulless monster when/if you do something that could hurt his family in any way. Walt is and always has been a family man. His sole focus from episode 1 through last night has been about taking care of his family at all cost.

It didn't matter that Hank was going to send him to jail forever. Hank was family, so he was willing to throw away every last dollar he made to save him. It didn't matter that Skylar tried to kill him with a kitchen knife. Walt still made that very last phone call, which he knew was being monitored by the cops, to absolve her of all wrong doing.

Walt is not Heisenberg.
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that's an interesting angle that i didn't see last night. i think it's somewhere between this and walt being heisenberg. he was straight up pissed and looked like he could kill skyler during that knife fight. i was on the edge of my couch during that. then when he hatefully called her a bitch he really sounded like he meaned it. the feelings he displayed when holly kept saying "mama" in the bathroom was walt though.


beedee said:
^ Help me understand that reference please. Amazing episode last night!!!
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look at the reflection on the left. bullet in walt's head. possible foreshadowing or just a mindtrick by the cinematographers, you decide!
 
jerseydevil said:
Buried in an unmarked hole in the desert...
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...which Walt dug.

Ozymandias, in case you were too lazy to look it up, was a King and is a sonnet by Percy Shelley.

Recited by Bryan Cranston:

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I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: "Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown
And wrinkled lip and sneer of cold command
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear:
`My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings:
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!'
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away".
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lunchbox said:
that's an interesting angle that i didn't see last night. i think it's somewhere between this and walt being heisenberg. he was straight up pissed and looked like he could kill skyler during that knife fight. i was on the edge of my couch during that. then when he hatefully called her a bitch he really sounded like he meaned it. the feelings he displayed when holly kept saying "mama" in the bathroom was walt though.




look at the reflection on the left. bullet in walt's head. possible foreshadowing or just a mindtrick by the cinematographers, you decide!
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I read that scene as though Walt was cutting ties, realizing just how far things had gone, allowing his family to carry on without him and doing his best to reduce any role Skylar may have had to anyone who was listening. His tone was very menacing, but that was the saddest moment in the series for me. Leaving Holly with the FD was symbolic of letting it all go.

Although I did wonder why he didn't also mention killing Mike to Jesse when he was telling him about watching Jane die.
 
Bogey said:
Name of kid shot by Todd: Drew Sharp

Houston DEA agent Hank spoke with: Doughty

Is there a Kings fan among the Breaking Bad writers?
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Wouldn't surprise me. Caught an old Law and Order re-run over the weekend with characters named McSorely, Probert, Chelios and Twist.

Gotta name characters something.
 
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