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Come off it! THERE WAS NO REASON FOR THAT LINE OF DIALOGUE TO EXIST IN THIS MOVIE other than to potentially FORCE the topic into discussion. THAT is what has me pissed. We've got friends that are as close as family that are homosexual (who AGREE with me on this, btw), and insinuating that I'm some raving right-wing lunatic homophobe because I don't find a need for this sort of thing in Kid's entertainment is absurd and you know it. My concern is righteous and warranted regardless of what you think of me.

And no, we don't watch Disney live-action. They're trite and shallow. And scripted sitcom humor paired with canned laughter has never done much for me to begin with.
 
FBJ said:
Come off it! THERE WAS NO REASON FOR THAT LINE OF DIALOGUE TO EXIST IN THIS MOVIE other than to potentially FORCE the topic into discussion. THAT is what has me pissed. We've got friends that are as close as family that are homosexual (who AGREE with me on this, btw), and insinuating that I'm some raving right-wing lunatic homophobe because I don't find a need for this sort of thing in Kid's entertainment is absurd and you know it. My concern is righteous and warranted regardless of what you think of me.

And no, we don't watch Disney live-action. They're trite and shallow. And scripted sitcom humor paired with canned laughter has never done much for me to begin with.
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FBJ said:
Come off it! THERE WAS NO REASON FOR THAT LINE OF DIALOGUE TO EXIST IN THIS MOVIE other than to potentially FORCE the topic into discussion. THAT is what has me pissed. We've got friends that are as close as family that are homosexual (who AGREE with me on this, btw), and insinuating that I'm some raving right-wing lunatic homophobe because I don't find a need for this sort of thing in Kid's entertainment is absurd and you know it. My concern is righteous and warranted regardless of what you think of me.

And no, we don't watch Disney live-action. They're trite and shallow. And scripted sitcom humor paired with canned laughter has never done much for me to begin with.
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I know you are feeling picked on...sorry I am actually tying to have a legit conversation with you...but those friends you mention, how do you explain them to your child? Or do you keep them seperate? Another question...would you advocate that the little box on movie posters where the rating is includes warnings of homosexual themes alongside the violence/nudity/language warnings they currently have?
 
FBJ said:
THERE WAS NO REASON FOR THAT LINE OF DIALOGUE TO EXIST IN THIS MOVIE
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You're right... but here's a mind bender for you.

There was no reason for that line of dialogue not to exist in this movie.

It was a joke. A funny joke. Aimed at adults and most likely completely missed by children. If some child happened to be attentive and curious enough to wonder why the man said "boyfriend" instead of "girlfriend" then my guess is that they have been exposed to the existence of homosexuality in the world in some other form of media and frankly your personal disinterest in discussing the perfectly non horrific existence of homosexuality isn't and shouldn't be the concern of the rest of us.
 
Dr. Naysay said:
You're right... but here's a mind bender for you.

There was no reason for that line of dialogue not to exist in this movie.

It was a joke. A funny joke. Aimed at adults and most likely completely missed by children. If some child happened to be attentive and curious enough to wonder why the man said "boyfriend" instead of "girlfriend" then my guess is that they have been exposed to the existence of homosexuality in the world in some other form of media and frankly your personal disinterest in discussing the perfectly non horrific existence of homosexuality isn't and shouldn't be the concern of the rest of us.
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I have had my spats with Doc, but my G-d, is this post is brilliant. I couldn't had said it better.

I love your posts FBJ, but you are so wrong on this. I don't think you know what is to be a minority. In this country, first it was Irish people, then black people, then Jews, then Latinos, and now gays. The last group gets discriminated. I think that we Americans should know better, the founding fathers must be rolling on their father.

I will disclose this, and I don't really like to talk about this because I have PTSD and an alcohol problem, but I was in the military, and this don't ask don't tell was the biggest piece of bull****. In the marines we quickly figure who is gay, and we don't care.

It doesn't matter. And that's what Doc articulated so wonderfully, it shouldn't bother us because we have more important issues to worry about.
 
No. I am not wrong on this. And there are LOTS AND LOTS of parents who are in agreement with me in believing that they should not be subject to subtle, surreptitious, or subversive "messages" promoting ANY adult sexuality or lifestyle-choice (or any other political or sociological agenda) in films or entertainment geared towards CHILDREN. Not a single adult in that theater on Sunday laughed at that "funny joke," and believe me, I looked around.

The whole attitude of: "Well it exists in the real world, why bother trying to shield your kids from it at all?" makes no sense...especially coming from people who have no children. Children's minds, egos, ids, and overall psyches are in such a developmental state that it is smart to protect them from MANY MANY MANY things that adults deal with on a daily basis. And if you DON'T do that as a parent, you're asking for a potentially troubled and confused adult. I hold no disinterest in discussing homosexuality (and where, exactly DOC did I call it "horrific?") WHEN I FEEL MY CHILD IS READY. At age 8, she is no more ready to discuss homosexual relationships than she is to discuss heterosexual ones.

I thought you all knew me well enough to know that I am a pretty tolerant individual. Clearly I was wrong as is evident in the fact that you've all turned my very rational point of concern into what you view as a clear-cut case of homophobia. I'll be damned if I should have to put up with anyone insinuating that I am a discriminator or a homophobe when I am very clearly not. What I AM is a father who is very active in his child's upbringing.

Those are my beliefs. If you don't like them, I don't give a ****.
 
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FBJ said:
and where, exactly DOC did I call it "horrific?"
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You didn't. By singling out one line of dialog and ignoring the rest of the movie which was loaded with "hetero"sexual innuendo you have left yourself open to interpretation. My apologies if I was incorrect in inferring which aspect of the film you found more offensive. The gay joke or the hyper-(hetero)sexualization of the older sister.
 
Dr. Naysay said:
Maybe it's just my (slightly waning) crush on Sarah Silverman but i'm really looking forward to this.
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Yeah. Time to move on. She was Cougar-of the Week on the Dan Patrick show this morning. She's cute...but man you know that gets annoying almost 10 minutes in.
 
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