Danault traded

ICE24 said:
I'll give Turcotte 3 games with the extra playing time to prove himself. If not, he will have to go. I don't have the tolerance nor patience anymore so they are on a short leash.
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Giving him 3.6% of the season to prove himself is basically saying you've already given up on him and want him traded - keeping in mind his value in the league is very low and the Kings would likely get next to nothing for him while further depleting their ranks at Center.

Additionally, with Danault gone, the Kings are in desperate need of Turcotte's faceoff proficiency. What they should do, imo, is give him the season and use him much like they did Danault (pk and ~16 minutes of ice time per game) which will provide him more experience while getting a chance to center players with at least average offensive acumen at the NHL level. Thereafter, use this summer to evaluate and adjust the roster as needed.

Turcotte has the talent to excel at the NHL level. He's likely not going to become a superstar, but instead a meaninful 3rd line center who can win vital faceoffs, play defensively sound and with the potential to possibly grow into a top 6 role.
 
DryKing said:
Giving him 3.6% of the season to prove himself is basically saying you've already given up on him and want him traded - keeping in mind his value in the league is very low and the Kings would likely get next to nothing for him while further depleting their ranks at Center.

Additionally, with Danault gone, the Kings are in desperate need of Turcotte's faceoff proficiency. What they should do, imo, is give him the season and use him much like they did Danault (pk and ~16 minutes of ice time per game) which will provide him more experience while getting a chance to center players with at least average offensive acumen at the NHL level. Thereafter, use this summer to evaluate and adjust the roster as needed.

Turcotte has the talent to excel at the NHL level. He's likely not going to become a superstar, but instead a meaninful 3rd line center who can win vital faceoffs, play defensively sound and with the potential to possibly grow into a top 6 role.
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Another key point is: he can become a very cost controlled 3rd line center.
 
DryKing said:
Giving him 3.6% of the season to prove himself is basically saying you've already given up on him and want him traded - keeping in mind his value in the league is very low and the Kings would likely get next to nothing for him while further depleting their ranks at Center.

Additionally, with Danault gone, the Kings are in desperate need of Turcotte's faceoff proficiency. What they should do, imo, is give him the season and use him much like they did Danault (pk and ~16 minutes of ice time per game) which will provide him more experience while getting a chance to center players with at least average offensive acumen at the NHL level. Thereafter, use this summer to evaluate and adjust the roster as needed.

Turcotte has the talent to excel at the NHL level. He's likely not going to become a superstar, but instead a meaninful 3rd line center who can win vital faceoffs, play defensively sound and with the potential to possibly grow into a top 6 role.
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I think you may have been a victim of ICE24's wry sense of humor...😁

And I think we are all rooting for Turc to tear it up at 3C. It's been a long rough road for him, but there he is.

Go #15!!!
 
VCRW said:
I think you may have been a victim of ICE24's wry sense of humor...😁

And I think we are all rooting for Turc to tear it up at 3C. It's been a long rough road for him, but there he is.

Go #15!!!
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Just want to get this on record here for everyone that hasn’t heard me say it before.

He’s too damn small. He’s going to get lit up in one of these games, and wind up on the shelf with some ailment for 10+ games.

Tonight, he’s got minutes against Monaghan, who plays big boy hockey. Let’s see how he does right out of the gate.
 
Birdman said:
Just want to get this on record here for everyone that hasn’t heard me say it before.

He’s too damn small. He’s going to get lit up in one of these games, and wind up on the shelf with some ailment for 10+ games.

Tonight, he’s got minutes against Monaghan, who plays big boy hockey. Let’s see how he does right out of the gate.
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We will get a better idea of who he can be after the 3 games this week. Turc and Kuzy both need to find a spot where they can play their best hockey. This pair has good possibilities… although coming from smaller packages. But they both need someone who is a better finisher on their line.
 
Birdman said:
Just want to get this on record here for everyone that hasn’t heard me say it before.

He’s too damn small. He’s going to get lit up in one of these games, and wind up on the shelf with some ailment for 10+ games.

Tonight, he’s got minutes against Monaghan, who plays big boy hockey. Let’s see how he does right out of the gate.
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Big as in Mike Richards big? Evan Rodrigues big? Karlsson? Kadri?
 
Bollocks said:
Big as in Mike Richards big? Evan Rodrigues big? Karlsson? Kadri?
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Those guys played with a different swagger. Have yet to see that out of Turcotte.

Laffy lacks size, but you never heard me bitch about him. Kid dropped his gloves in his first NHL shift and held his own, and digs in and plays bigger.
 
Birdman said:
Those guys played with a different swagger. Have yet to see that out of Turcotte.

Laffy lacks size, but you never heard me bitch about him. Kid dropped his gloves in his first NHL shift and held his own, and digs in and plays bigger.
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Turcotte has been as physical as he can be this season. For all the Brutal concussions he’s had he doesn’t play scared.

This team is soft culturally. Hiller likes “tight checking.” He doesn’t worry about hitting. Or anything proactive, really
 
Clif said:
Turcotte has been as physical as he can be this season. For all the Brutal concussions he’s had he doesn’t play scared.

This team is soft culturally. Hiller likes “tight checking.” He doesn’t worry about hitting. Or anything proactive, really
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What I find perplexing about Hiller is his slavish adherence to the tradition of defense first (and last) hockey but also an embrace of the modern style of speed over physicality. Combined its the worst of both worlds. A relic of the past with the thin veneer of the modern game.

If he picked a lane I believe the fan base would be much more forgiving. Instead we suffer through speedy guys who go nowhere fast but mostly make the safest play possible with the puck on their side of the ice.
 
Statue4Deano said:
What I find perplexing about Hiller is his slavish adherence to the tradition of defense first (and last) hockey but also an embrace of the modern style of speed over physicality. Combined its the worst of both worlds. A relic of the past with the thin veneer of the modern game.

If he picked a lane I believe the fan base would be much more forgiving. Instead we suffer through speedy guys who go nowhere fast but mostly make the safest play possible with the puck on their side of the ice.
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What a totally clear picture of his coaching. He talks about effort a lot. He’s described his own system as highly demanding. Hiller wants players to exert maximum effort in defending. Offensively, tearing up the ice with speed shows hustle, or effort. Tight checking is “getting on pucks” and grinding stick battles. More effort.

A whole lot of effort for the coach. No creativity allowed. Hell, not even passion. Don’t hit or you might get out of position.
 
Statue4Deano said:
What I find perplexing about Hiller is his slavish adherence to the tradition of defense first (and last) hockey but also an embrace of the modern style of speed over physicality. Combined its the worst of both worlds. A relic of the past with the thin veneer of the modern game.

If he picked a lane I believe the fan base would be much more forgiving. Instead we suffer through speedy guys who go nowhere fast but mostly make the safest play possible with the puck on their side of the ice.
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It’s all about applying pressure. You need to play in their end. Wear down their defense, make their forwards check. Hit everything down there that moves.

You will give up a counter attacking goal per game.
 
Statue4Deano said:
What I find perplexing about Hiller is his slavish adherence to the tradition of defense first (and last) hockey but also an embrace of the modern style of speed over physicality. Combined its the worst of both worlds. A relic of the past with the thin veneer of the modern game.

If he picked a lane I believe the fan base would be much more forgiving. Instead we suffer through speedy guys who go nowhere fast but mostly make the safest play possible with the puck on their side of the ice.
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Where have you gone, Joe Di.... Austin Wagner?
 
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